Children of Lilith - Succubus of Skyrim

[mcnv]

9 hours ago, phalancks said:

You mean like, if above x energy, transform into a succubus? I could probably do that, though it'd need guard rails to ensure it doesn't slow down the energy processing too much. Forced transformations don't cost energy you are correct. If the player can't toggle the form it feels unfair to drain energy to me.

An option would be nice, for roleplaying reasons. So as of right now, the only way to "automate" transformation would be to set an arousal threshold. correct?

 

I've also encountered a few bugs.

one where the mortal form and the succubus form switched places. the mortal form gets the succubus buff and the succubus form doesn't, yet when I loaded their respective forms they were as I've set them to be.

another was when the threshold and de-transform setting was on and the message "arousal blocks transformation" kept repeating while the player was stuck in succubus form while outside the threshold.

There's also a minor bit with the transformation itself but I know it's quite a complex system already: Complexion is not copied over during transformation.

 

I'm personally happy with what you've created. Take your time with it.

[phalancks]

5.0.6
More bugfixes and some new configuration options, read the change notes for all the details, but there are a few potential pitfalls.

As far as I know, OStim has no concept of an "aggressive" scene so only the transform during any scene option will work. Similarly Toys & Love doesn't seem to have a concept of the player being the dominant actor in the scene, so only the 'any' or 'victim' scene options will work. If I'm wrong about either of these let me know.

If you are using PPlus, then the default configuration of aggressive scene detection may not function with all mods that can trigger that kind of scene. There's an option in the Compatibilities menu that will enable checking scene tags instead of just using PPlus' contextual tagging system. Basically, if the transform doesn't trigger as you expect it to and you are using PPlus, then try enabling this option and see if it helps.

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[Riot445]

How do you fix the incompatibilities with Papyrus Tweaks NG and HDT SMP? This mod seems great but I have a lot of other mods that require both.

[phalancks]

3 hours ago, Riot445 said:

How do you fix the incompatibilities with Papyrus Tweaks NG and HDT SMP? This mod seems great but I have a lot of other mods that require both.

Both of those have instructions in the Known Incompatibilities section. The Papyrus Tweaks NG incompatibility isn't that big of a deal, it just makes energy casting not cost anything. So if you have enough self-control to not exploit it you don't even need to do anything.

[Hakuna_Matata]

Would you consider adding a few ideas from SLDD into CoL?

 

I'm just about ready to drop SLDD, but I am trying to roleplay a succubus and came up with this strategy: I disabled regular experience gain with the Experience mod, and get my skill advancements from SLDD. They have an option that if you drain someone with skills higher than your own, your skill advances. I would really like to have that feature in CoL.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17751

 

They also had this wonderful idea of "drain to draugr", which was buggy, so they replaced it with an interface to FEC

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/3532

 

Basically if you kill someone by draining, they get the life drain effect (configurable but that is the one that makes the most sense) which turns the corpse into an emaciated husk. I personally would love to drain corpses into CC zombies or draugr but this works well.

 

SLDD also adds a few visual effects when draining, which I think really enhance the immersion.

 

The most immersive thing SLDD does though is prolong the final phase of the scene, forcing the drain victim to have several orgasms in a row. That really drives home the roleplay aspect of being a succubus I think. Not sure if you can even do that with Sexlab P+ (I'd even be willing to switch to OSex for that feature alone).

 

The last think SLDD does (but it has been broken for years now) is physical drain, which I think could be an absolutely awesome thing if implemented properly. The old implementations tried setting NiOverrides, which then failed because every body has their own bone names and such. Also different mods collided in what they were trying to do, i.e. pregnancy mods, so an inflation framework was created, which I never could get to work right. I think it would be hilarious if you could apply a temporary racemenu morph when draining people, like reduce the weight or shrink the cock or breasts.

Edited August 6, 2024 by Hakuna_Matata

[phalancks]

@Hakuna_Matata

 

Skill drain is planned for some point in the future. Not sure when.

 

I'm going to take another look at FEC integration soon. I looked at it a while ago but couldn't figure out how to make it work.

 

Probably won't be adding final phase extensions. Though P+ may actually make it easier, I think it would cause problems with other mods. Because I don't "own" the sexlab scenes, as in I don't start them so they aren't mine, implementing anything to take control of them would be an anti-pattern imo.

 

I might be able to do something with weight, but I suspect I would run into similar problems if I tried to do full physical drain.

[Hakuna_Matata]

Can you play two scenes back to back? Or maybe another animation?

So we could have separate "being succubus'ed" animations that we could play after the regular scene?

 

Grasping at straws here, and it would probably not work well because now you need one additional scene for every pairing of sex partners.

 

Sigh.

[phalancks]

1 hour ago, Hakuna_Matata said:

Can you play two scenes back to back? Or maybe another animation?

So we could have separate "being succubus'ed" animations that we could play after the regular scene?

 

Grasping at straws here, and it would probably not work well because now you need one additional scene for every pairing of sex partners.

 

Sigh.

 

Yeah that would probably cause other issues, not least being making sure it works with every scene framework.

[zombdom]

I'm using hdt enabled fantasy tails and ks hairdos with physics and everytime I transform physics get disabled for both forms. I tried disabling the wig option in the config but it literally inverted my tail and hair. So I tried fixing it in the racemenu but when I reload the save it just goes back to being inverted. I started over and now physics are completely broken after transformation, completely stiff. Not sure what else to try. Reloading a save kind of helped before I changed the config. Sometimes the physics would reactivate. They also don't work during sexlab scenes, i.e. stiff tail and hair. My smp is up to date.

[phalancks]

8 hours ago, zombdom said:

I'm using hdt enabled fantasy tails and ks hairdos with physics and everytime I transform physics get disabled for both forms. I tried disabling the wig option in the config but it literally inverted my tail and hair. So I tried fixing it in the racemenu but when I reload the save it just goes back to being inverted. I started over and now physics are completely broken after transformation, completely stiff. Not sure what else to try. Reloading a save kind of helped before I changed the config. Sometimes the physics would reactivate. They also don't work during sexlab scenes, i.e. stiff tail and hair. My smp is up to date.

What body do you use? I've had other people report similar but I've never had an issue with 3BA.

[zombdom]

1 hour ago, phalancks said:

What body do you use? I've had other people report similar but I've never had an issue with 3BA.

3BA

[phalancks]

53 minutes ago, zombdom said:

3BA

hmm. Any other modifications or changes to settings? What options did you select when you installed it? Does physics still break if you disable equipment swapping in the CoL MCM?

[zombdom]

21 minutes ago, phalancks said:

hmm. Any other modifications or changes to settings? What options did you select when you installed it? Does physics still break if you disable equipment swapping in the CoL MCM?

Physics are still broken with no equipment. Stiff tail and hair every time. No changes to settings. I've barely done anything aside from create my character xd As far as installing I picked the better vamps patch thing. Maybe I should try reinstalling 3B? It might be resetting my body being in smp mode every time it loads the preset. Idk if that can happen. I think 3B has a smp only option. It's been a while since I installed it. I try changing my body with the power from 3B MCM from cbpc to smp but it stays stiff. It was working before but something is very broke now

[zombdom]

2 hours ago, zombdom said:

Physics are still broken with no equipment. Stiff tail and hair every time. No changes to settings. I've barely done anything aside from create my character xd As far as installing I picked the better vamps patch thing. Maybe I should try reinstalling 3B? It might be resetting my body being in smp mode every time it loads the preset. Idk if that can happen. I think 3B has a smp only option. It's been a while since I installed it. I try changing my body with the power from 3B MCM from cbpc to smp but it stays stiff. It was working before but something is very broke now

I've tried the equipped versions of the hair and tail and they keep physics. I guess I'll just do that for now until somebody finds a fix for the racemenu.

[zombdom]

2 hours ago, zombdom said:

I've tried the equipped versions of the hair and tail and they keep physics. I guess I'll just do that for now until somebody finds a fix for the racemenu.

Alright I solved it. It was external heads being enabled. What tipped me off was my racemenu presets being absolutely fucked. The eyes were rolled back, eyelashes in the wrong place, and this was also in the sliders. Everything was out of alignment. Also some weird blocky head was being used for every race. Turned it off and now everything works perfectly. Fingers crossed it stays that way.😃

 

Fyi this was only AFTER starting col and becoming a succubus then opening the racemenu. Anyway if you have any of my issues just leave external heads OFF. Even lewdmarks were buggy. Sometimes not showing or having to reload the save before they did. Could be a load order thing but as long as it works like this I'm happy.

[Licki]

I see that this mod has compatibility issues with the Obody, but would it have issues with the "Unique Character" mod? https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/3006

 

Another question as well... Is there a way to change the skin used after transform? Like, be a normal person for human form and then swap to something like the skin used here? https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/57532 The mod allows a seperate download of just the resources used, so it's possible to have the skin available.

 

Edited August 11, 2024 by Licki
asking additional question

[phalancks]

35 minutes ago, Licki said:

I see that this mod has compatibility issues with the Obody, but would it have issues with the "Unique Character" mod? https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/3006

 

Another question as well... Is there a way to change the skin used after transform? Like, be a normal person for human form and then swap to something like the skin used here? https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/57532 The mod allows a seperate download of just the resources used, so it's possible to have the skin available.

 

I'm not sure if it would have issues with Unique Character or not. Depends on whether or not the race menu preset saves/loads the body correctly.

 

As for skin, I don't currently have any plans to add a skin switching function to the transform.

[Hakuna_Matata]

Oh noes! I started a new playthrough with CoL 5.0.7.

I really wanted to debug something else, namely why the shout from ABBA stops working for me after a bit.

So I started a new playthrough without mods that have caused script overload in the past, and I kept trying the shout to make sure it works, and it still worked until right now.

I have isolated what makes it stop. It's when I turn into a vampire.

 

However I have reason to believe that CoL might be part of the problem, because as soon as I asked Serana to turn me into a vampire lord, CoL gave me the dreaded popup that automated race matching failed and I should proceed with caution.

 

I thought you had fixed that? My race was redguardrace before turning. No shenanigans, also no other form given to CoL to find out if that was causing trouble.

 

Here is the relevant part of my script log:

 

[08/12/2024 - 01:38:41AM] [CoL] Player Alias - Player vampire status changed
[08/12/2024 - 01:38:41AM] [CoL] Player Alias - Mortal race id before:
[08/12/2024 - 01:38:41AM] [CoL] Player Alias - Succubus race id before:
[08/12/2024 - 01:38:41AM] [CoL] Player Alias - Became Vampire
[08/12/2024 - 01:38:42AM] [CoL] Player Alias - Error: Race Could Not Be Updated
[08/12/2024 - 01:38:42AM] [CoL] Player Alias - Desired Mortal race id after: vampire
[08/12/2024 - 01:38:42AM] [CoL] Player Alias - Desired Succubus race id after: vampire

 

Here's what other mods say:

 

[08/12/2024 - 01:37:49AM] Heels Fix:  Player finished a race change to 559174 redguard                                 

 

That is decimal for some reason and translates to 88846 which is RedguardRaceVampire.

Now quite sure how to explain why CoL apparently had no race id. Does it only have that if I save a transformation jslot?

 

EDIT: There is good news as well. If I disable CoL before getting turned by Serana, I get no popup and the ABBA should still stops working. So that was not CoL's fault at least.

Edited August 11, 2024 by Hakuna_Matata

[phalancks]

46 minutes ago, Hakuna_Matata said:

Now quite sure how to explain why CoL apparently had no race id. Does it only have that if I save a transformation jslot?

Yeah, if you never save forms then your races never get stored, which means the string manipulation I do to find the correct race fails. I'll have to add in a check to make sure races are saved before doing attempting to find the vampire race I guess. In this case the error is harmless though.

[Licki]

It seems that this mod's transformation system conflicts with Sexy Adventures's Crime Laws system regarding nudity. Even fully clothed, approaching a city where nudity is illegal causes warning spam about being naked when in a city.

[phalancks]

44 minutes ago, Licki said:

It seems that this mod's transformation system conflicts with Sexy Adventures's Crime Laws system regarding nudity. Even fully clothed, approaching a city where nudity is illegal causes warning spam about being naked when in a city.

At all times or only while transformed? What if you disable equipment transformation? Only thing I can think of that'd cause this is if Sexy Adventures uses some kind of invisible armor to detect player clothing. Or if removing and equipping clothing via script isn't detected correctly by Sexy Adventures.

[Licki]

8 minutes ago, phalancks said:

At all times or only while transformed? What if you disable equipment transformation? Only thing I can think of that'd cause this is if Sexy Adventures uses some kind of invisible armor to detect player clothing. Or if removing and equipping clothing via script isn't detected correctly by Sexy Adventures.

 

It happens after transformation, no matter the form. My most recent test that confirmed it, I was kidnapped from another mod and then fast traveled to a city  while already transformed, after I resolved the kidnap. I got the perk where npc's don't react to the succubus form and arrived in town fully dressed. But while in the city, I transformed back to my normal form (also fully dressed) and started getting the spam. In other tests, I was simply close to the city (but still in detection range) and was testing the transform when I noticed the spam starting.  

I can try it without the equipment transform active.

 

Edited August 14, 2024 by Licki

[Licki]

16 minutes ago, phalancks said:

At all times or only while transformed? What if you disable equipment transformation? Only thing I can think of that'd cause this is if Sexy Adventures uses some kind of invisible armor to detect player clothing. Or if removing and equipping clothing via script isn't detected correctly by Sexy Adventures.

 

Yeah, bug didn't happen when I shut off equipment transform. So the spam might have been responding to 2 forms being naked and then getting equipment on or something.

[phalancks]

33 minutes ago, Licki said:

 

Yeah, bug didn't happen when I shut off equipment transform. So the spam might have been responding to 2 forms being naked and then getting equipment on or something.

I'll take a look when I have time. I suspect there's some kind of hidden item that is being used to detect nakedness.

[Durante]

A few questions:

 

Where can one encounter NPC succubus's?

 

And how did you make your player transform with wings and horns and skin hue change? Mine might be bugged or something but the character basically only got thicker and that's it.

Edited August 14, 2024 by Durante