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On 1/28/2024 at 6:11 PM, LatencyRemix said:

be carefull with it as lactids/mme items are deadly with this mod, not sure if they been fixed or not

If I remember correctly there's either an option to turn off the food or you just add the tag to lactacid in SSEdit

But I thought someone fixed it already somewhere

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So why is there two BSAs when there is only supposed to be one BSA for the LE version ?

 

Basically looking in the folder there is this

bac.bsa: 424,237 kb

bac.esp: 1,199 kb

 

Shouldnt that bsa be packed with the esp ? Why is the esp so tiny compared to the bsa ?

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Ok so I have tried everything I could think of when trying to start this on an exsisting save. I have two versions I can fall back on, {2.0.0 and 2.0.5} and they both work without any issues. However, 2.0.8 for LE just woke trigger on a preexsisting save file I want to use.

 

I've tried reinstalling the mod in MO2, I've tried installing the mod manually via winzip in windows to put the files directly into Skyrims data folder. Nothing works. So I decidsed, here is my papyus log, maybe it'll help ?

Papyrus.0.rar

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Hey botticelli, just wanted to say I redownloaded Skyrim just to play this mod again. Fantastic work on the updates and improvements, the results are incredible.

 

Thing I love most about this mod is how customizable it is - the MCM is awesome and relatively intuitive, and I've really enjoyed this recent run.

Thanks for all your hard work!

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15 hours ago, Tiruil said:

Two are showing up in it; which might be the issue; I downloaded the LE version, 2.0.8 LE, plus the required tats file, and the losse files, but in the main file there are two BSAs; one BSA apparently ciontains the whole mod, the other, with the offical beths logo on it, only contains maybe a mb worth of data in it. Which might bew where the problem lies, the BSA is fractored and I've no idea how to pack one properly

That's strange. When I download and open it, I have just one bsa:

grafik.png.77ff792337457c60d2e692664cc85d50.png

Where did you find the other?

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10 hours ago, Tiruil said:

So why is there two BSAs when there is only supposed to be one BSA for the LE version ?

 

Basically looking in the folder there is this

bac.bsa: 424,237 kb

bac.esp: 1,199 kb

 

Shouldnt that bsa be packed with the esp ? Why is the esp so tiny compared to the bsa ?

The bsa is the archive that contains all the static meshes, scripts, sounds, and so on and yes, it's quite large. The esp is the main mod file reliant on the bsa. But still I cannot find the second one. Did you clean out the mod residue before installing the next version as stated in item #3 of the FAQ on the file page? Because according to your log file, the scripts will never work (just an excerpt):

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[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF_bac_CowGrazePackage_060C04AD to  (DE0C04AD) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to link type of variable "::thisQuest_var" on object "PF_bac_CowGrazePackage3_060C04AE"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to link type of property "thisQuest" on object "PF_bac_CowGrazePackage3_060C04AE"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF_bac_CowGrazePackage3_060C04AE to  (DE0C04AE) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to link type of variable "::thisQuest_var" on object "PF_bac_CowGrazePackage4_060C04AF"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to link type of property "thisQuest" on object "PF_bac_CowGrazePackage4_060C04AF"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF_bac_CowGrazePackage4_060C04AF to  (DE0C04AF) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to link type of variable "::thisQuest_var" on object "PF_bac_CowGrazePackage5_060C04B0"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to link type of property "thisQuest" on object "PF_bac_CowGrazePackage5_060C04B0"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF_bac_CowGrazePackage5_060C04B0 to  (DE0C04B0) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to link type of variable "::thisQuest_var" on object "PF_bac_CowGrazePackage6_060C04B1"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to link type of property "thisQuest" on object "PF_bac_CowGrazePackage6_060C04B1"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF_bac_CowGrazePackage6_060C04B1 to  (DE0C04B1) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to link type of variable "::thisQuest_var" on object "PF_bac_CowGrazePackage7_060C04B2"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to link type of property "thisQuest" on object "PF_bac_CowGrazePackage7_060C04B2"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF_bac_CowGrazePackage7_060C04B2 to  (DE0C04B2) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to link types associated with function "Fragment_6" in state "" on object "PF_bacPaulGoingToWork_05011065".
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF_bacPaulGoingToWork_05011065 to  (DE011065) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:44PM] Error: Unable to link type of variable "::BACActor_var" on object "bac_MilkOMatic"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:44PM] Error: Unable to link type of property "BACActor" on object "bac_MilkOMatic"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:44PM] Error: Unable to bind script bac_MilkOMatic to  (DE0A731A) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:44PM] Error: Unable to bind script FXcameraAttachCloudScript to  (AD008E81) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:45PM] Error: Unable to bind script bardsongsscript to  (25025D38) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] Error: Property TG05RuinsDoorsTrigger on script FFNSMEHAliasMercerScript attached to alias AliasMercer on quest FFNSummonMercerEffectHandler (20010A99) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0002DDCF) is not the right type
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property Nocturnal on script FFNAliasDovahkiinScript attached to alias AliasDovahkiin on quest FFNFreedomForNightingales (2023F434) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] Error: Unable to bind script TGKillScript to alias Brynjolf on quest TGDestroy (2D000D62) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property AshSpawnAttachChancePercent on script DLC2AshSpawnAttackChanceScript attached to alias Player on quest DLC2Init (04016E02) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] Error: Unable to bind script racemenubase to alias Player on quest EmpyreanCS (58000800) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] Error: Unable to bind script nhaSimpleSexingMCM to alias nhaPlayer on quest nhaSimpleSexing (DC000D62) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property bac_RitualGiant on script bac_006_ritualcow_alias attached to alias PlayerRef on quest bac__quest_Evil_006_RitualCow (DE09A0DC) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property BACActor on script bac_006_ritualcow_alias attached to alias PlayerRef on quest bac__quest_Evil_006_RitualCow (DE09A0DC) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property BACStore on script bac_006_ritualcow_alias attached to alias PlayerRef on quest bac__quest_Evil_006_RitualCow (DE09A0DC) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property GreenThumb on script bac_grazing_alias attached to alias PlayerRef on quest bac_cowgrazing (DE0BFF48) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property BACStore on script bac_grazing_alias attached to alias PlayerRef on quest bac_cowgrazing (DE0BFF48) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property GrazingGhost on script bac_grazing_alias attached to alias PlayerRef on quest bac_cowgrazing (DE0BFF48) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property BACConfig on script bac_playerAliasHunt2 attached to alias BACPlayer on quest bac_huntersgonnahunt2 (DE02564C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property h_bacHunt001 on script bac_playerAliasHunt2 attached to alias BACPlayer on quest bac_huntersgonnahunt2 (DE02564C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property h_bacHunt002 on script bac_playerAliasHunt2 attached to alias BACPlayer on quest bac_huntersgonnahunt2 (DE02564C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property h_bacHunt004 on script bac_playerAliasHunt2 attached to alias BACPlayer on quest bac_huntersgonnahunt2 (DE02564C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property bac_hunter_aggressor on script bac_playerAliasHunt2 attached to alias BACPlayer on quest bac_huntersgonnahunt2 (DE02564C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property h_bacHunt003 on script bac_playerAliasHunt2 attached to alias BACPlayer on quest bac_huntersgonnahunt2 (DE02564C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property unownctrl on script bac_playerAliasHunt2 attached to alias BACPlayer on quest bac_huntersgonnahunt2 (DE02564C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property h_bacHunt005 on script bac_playerAliasHunt2 attached to alias BACPlayer on quest bac_huntersgonnahunt2 (DE02564C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property furn on script bac_alias_afterstorm_milker attached to alias PlayerRef on quest bac_afterstorm (DE032F78) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property thisQuest on script bac_alias_afterstorm_milker attached to alias PlayerRef on quest bac_afterstorm (DE032F78) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

 

 

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10 hours ago, botticelli said:

The bsa is the archive that contains all the static meshes, scripts, sounds, and so on and yes, it's quite large. The esp is the main mod file reliant on the bsa. But still I cannot find the second one. Did you clean out the mod residue before installing the next version as stated in item #3 of the FAQ on the file page? Because according to your log file, the scripts will never work (just an excerpt):

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[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF_bac_CowGrazePackage_060C04AD to  (DE0C04AD) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to link type of variable "::thisQuest_var" on object "PF_bac_CowGrazePackage3_060C04AE"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to link type of property "thisQuest" on object "PF_bac_CowGrazePackage3_060C04AE"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF_bac_CowGrazePackage3_060C04AE to  (DE0C04AE) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to link type of variable "::thisQuest_var" on object "PF_bac_CowGrazePackage4_060C04AF"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to link type of property "thisQuest" on object "PF_bac_CowGrazePackage4_060C04AF"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF_bac_CowGrazePackage4_060C04AF to  (DE0C04AF) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to link type of variable "::thisQuest_var" on object "PF_bac_CowGrazePackage5_060C04B0"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to link type of property "thisQuest" on object "PF_bac_CowGrazePackage5_060C04B0"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF_bac_CowGrazePackage5_060C04B0 to  (DE0C04B0) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to link type of variable "::thisQuest_var" on object "PF_bac_CowGrazePackage6_060C04B1"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to link type of property "thisQuest" on object "PF_bac_CowGrazePackage6_060C04B1"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF_bac_CowGrazePackage6_060C04B1 to  (DE0C04B1) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to link type of variable "::thisQuest_var" on object "PF_bac_CowGrazePackage7_060C04B2"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to link type of property "thisQuest" on object "PF_bac_CowGrazePackage7_060C04B2"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF_bac_CowGrazePackage7_060C04B2 to  (DE0C04B2) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to link types associated with function "Fragment_6" in state "" on object "PF_bacPaulGoingToWork_05011065".
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:43PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF_bacPaulGoingToWork_05011065 to  (DE011065) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:44PM] Error: Unable to link type of variable "::BACActor_var" on object "bac_MilkOMatic"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:44PM] Error: Unable to link type of property "BACActor" on object "bac_MilkOMatic"
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:44PM] Error: Unable to bind script bac_MilkOMatic to  (DE0A731A) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:44PM] Error: Unable to bind script FXcameraAttachCloudScript to  (AD008E81) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:45PM] Error: Unable to bind script bardsongsscript to  (25025D38) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] Error: Property TG05RuinsDoorsTrigger on script FFNSMEHAliasMercerScript attached to alias AliasMercer on quest FFNSummonMercerEffectHandler (20010A99) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0002DDCF) is not the right type
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property Nocturnal on script FFNAliasDovahkiinScript attached to alias AliasDovahkiin on quest FFNFreedomForNightingales (2023F434) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] Error: Unable to bind script TGKillScript to alias Brynjolf on quest TGDestroy (2D000D62) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property AshSpawnAttachChancePercent on script DLC2AshSpawnAttackChanceScript attached to alias Player on quest DLC2Init (04016E02) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] Error: Unable to bind script racemenubase to alias Player on quest EmpyreanCS (58000800) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] Error: Unable to bind script nhaSimpleSexingMCM to alias nhaPlayer on quest nhaSimpleSexing (DC000D62) because their base types do not match
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property bac_RitualGiant on script bac_006_ritualcow_alias attached to alias PlayerRef on quest bac__quest_Evil_006_RitualCow (DE09A0DC) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property BACActor on script bac_006_ritualcow_alias attached to alias PlayerRef on quest bac__quest_Evil_006_RitualCow (DE09A0DC) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property BACStore on script bac_006_ritualcow_alias attached to alias PlayerRef on quest bac__quest_Evil_006_RitualCow (DE09A0DC) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property GreenThumb on script bac_grazing_alias attached to alias PlayerRef on quest bac_cowgrazing (DE0BFF48) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property BACStore on script bac_grazing_alias attached to alias PlayerRef on quest bac_cowgrazing (DE0BFF48) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property GrazingGhost on script bac_grazing_alias attached to alias PlayerRef on quest bac_cowgrazing (DE0BFF48) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property BACConfig on script bac_playerAliasHunt2 attached to alias BACPlayer on quest bac_huntersgonnahunt2 (DE02564C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property h_bacHunt001 on script bac_playerAliasHunt2 attached to alias BACPlayer on quest bac_huntersgonnahunt2 (DE02564C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property h_bacHunt002 on script bac_playerAliasHunt2 attached to alias BACPlayer on quest bac_huntersgonnahunt2 (DE02564C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property h_bacHunt004 on script bac_playerAliasHunt2 attached to alias BACPlayer on quest bac_huntersgonnahunt2 (DE02564C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property bac_hunter_aggressor on script bac_playerAliasHunt2 attached to alias BACPlayer on quest bac_huntersgonnahunt2 (DE02564C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property h_bacHunt003 on script bac_playerAliasHunt2 attached to alias BACPlayer on quest bac_huntersgonnahunt2 (DE02564C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property unownctrl on script bac_playerAliasHunt2 attached to alias BACPlayer on quest bac_huntersgonnahunt2 (DE02564C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property h_bacHunt005 on script bac_playerAliasHunt2 attached to alias BACPlayer on quest bac_huntersgonnahunt2 (DE02564C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property furn on script bac_alias_afterstorm_milker attached to alias PlayerRef on quest bac_afterstorm (DE032F78) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[01/30/2024 - 10:18:55PM] warning: Property thisQuest on script bac_alias_afterstorm_milker attached to alias PlayerRef on quest bac_afterstorm (DE032F78) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

 

 

Well like I said I installed the mod via MO2, just like the other versions and never had this issue occur until now; MO2 installs everything in a virtual folder, to manually cleran out old versions, I dont even know where to go to do that

 

EDIT: I found only one script in the overwrite folder for Mo2 related to BAC, but nothing else anywhere

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Ok so, the hammerheart quest triggered after removing the only BAC related item in the MO2 overwrite folder, but the MCM still wont appear; and I cant find any loose scripts anywhere from old versions

 

I restarted Skyrim and now Hammerheart is not triggering, and I searched the overwrite folder, nothing in there. Its like this version doesnt want to work for me; and I was really hoping to try the full udder sounds effects too. Guess I am going to have to just wait for the next version

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5 hours ago, ManTown247 said:

Hey there quick question why does my charter lose HP/MP/SP when eat anything heads up i am using RND and im pretty sure its coming from this mod because it only happens when i transform

BAC does not modify health/magicka/stamina. That must be some other mod.

11 hours ago, Tiruil said:

I restarted Skyrim and now Hammerheart is not triggering, and I searched the overwrite folder, nothing in there. Its like this version doesnt want to work for me; and I was really hoping to try the full udder sounds effects too. Guess I am going to have to just wait for the next version

Still very strange. You see, I didn't change anything in 2.0.8 vs. 2.0.7 regarding load sequence or MCM or master files or other dependencies. The cleaning is described in item #3 of the FAQ on the file page:

grafik.png.52d6526a4dc529926b194c8a42a4fab6.png

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Have no problems with mod itself. But this Moo is boring. Hard to speak especially if gaged. What have i do to reduce moo chance?

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28 minutes ago, crococat said:

Have no problems with mod itself. But this Moo is boring. Hard to speak especially if gaged. What have i do to reduce moo chance?

continue mooing until you see the message "At last, you remembered how to speak". Each time that message appears, your chance *not* to moo increases. It ususally takes 50 - 70 such messages to entirely stop the mooing depending on your speechcraft skill. If you get debuffs on speechcraft from other mods, it might trigger again.

Of course, you can turn it off by disabling degrading in MCM, but then, the other degrading features will also not take place (grazing, defecating, etc.)

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11 hours ago, botticelli said:

Still very strange. You see, I didn't change anything in 2.0.8 vs. 2.0.7 regarding load sequence or MCM or master files or other dependencies. The cleaning is described in item #3 of the FAQ on the file page:

grafik.png.52d6526a4dc529926b194c8a42a4fab6.png

Here is what is strange, none of those old scripts showed up anywhere, only thing that did show up in MO2s overwrite folder was the script quest for the acolyte's Who am I quest, even removing that didnt help. Since I use MO2 there was nothing in data\scripts wehatsoever, only stuff in there was related to bloody facials

 

I think my issue is that everything is split up; mod got so huge suddenly its not working ? I cant be the only person on LE having this issue

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13 hours ago, Tiruil said:

I cant be the only person on LE having this issue

seems you are... The three archives do not overwrite each other, The split was only necessary due to LL max file size. Maybe I do it like MNC and split the single archive in three volumes (7z001 through 7z003) to be concatenated again by 7zip.

 

10 hours ago, jacobrox5656 said:

How do i install the se sound wav file? Do install it standalone or do i drag it into one of the main bac downloads?

Either overwrite them manually or let your mod tool do it. That archive needs to be loaded *after* bac.

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14 hours ago, botticelli said:

seems you are... The three archives do not overwrite each other, The split was only necessary due to LL max file size. Maybe I do it like MNC and split the single archive in three volumes (7z001 through 7z003) to be concatenated again by 7zip.

So in this case before installing the mod as 3 sepreate files, recombine the files into one mod ?

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4 hours ago, Tiruil said:

So in this case before installing the mod as 3 sepreate files, recombine the files into one mod ?

No, just the three packages as of now. It's not worth the hassle to recombine this since it does not overwrite each other.

 

9 hours ago, Drummer_I said:

Ok, im back and fix heads but still horns ears and udders dont grow(be on 1 stage) idk why

Do you use Q2C's inventory functions? Having a wrong or deprecated version of that will cause those items not to swap.

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11 hours ago, botticelli said:

No, just the three packages as of now. It's not worth the hassle to recombine this since it does not overwrite each other.

 

Do you use Q2C's inventory functions? Having a wrong or deprecated version of that will cause those items not to swap.

Download last SE version, nothing changed

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