Game is not opening

[Tokyoghoul67]

Was playing it yesterday morning and now it won't open at all. has there been any changes to the game? I have everything mapped out to my E drive and all I did was add two mods. I took those off and it still doesn't work. any suggestions?

[Varithina]

If you have not already done so try rebooting, one thing I have noticed in the last year or so is that sometime windows will do background updates that require a reboot, but will not say the pc needs rebooting, this can cause odd things to happen with games and other apps.

[anjenthedog]

Make sure Steam is running.  The game will not even attempt to open if it's not running. I get that situation occasionally when steam issues an update and I fail to notice it's not actually running.

[Tokyoghoul67]

26 minutes ago, Varithina said:

If you have not already done so try rebooting, one thing I have noticed in the last year or so is that sometime windows will do background updates that require a reboot, but will not say the pc needs rebooting, this can cause odd things to happen with games and other apps.

Just did a reboot.. nothing... Vortex says all is good and that I have no issues....ran FNIS and no issues there either. Have LOOT up also, no issues... I did see something about environment variables yesterday but it is gone now. maybe that is causing it not to load?

[Tokyoghoul67]

15 minutes ago, anjenthedog said:

Make sure Steam is running.  The game will not even attempt to open if it's not running. I get that situation occasionally when steam issues an update and I fail to notice it's not actually running.

Never had to go through steam before. I just clicked on Skyrim Script Extender 64 on the Vortex app and the game opened from there...

[Grey Cloud]

1 hour ago, Tokyoghoul67 said:

I did was add two mods. I took those off and it still doesn't work. any suggestions?

How far does it get? Does Skyrim not start or do you get to the main menu or . . .?

[anjenthedog]

20 minutes ago, Tokyoghoul67 said:

Never had to go through steam before. I just clicked on Skyrim Script Extender 64 on the Vortex app and the game opened from there...

 

Huh... I've always had to have steam running for my copy of the game.  Everyone else I've spoken with over the past 3 years has too.  How'd you get that? Are you some sort of special case?

 

 

[Tokyoghoul67]

1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

How far does it get? Does Skyrim not start or do you get to the main menu or . . .?

I get to the main menu and then it disappears...

[Tokyoghoul67]

1 hour ago, anjenthedog said:

 

Huh... I've always had to have steam running for my copy of the game.  Everyone else I've spoken with over the past 3 years has too.  How'd you get that? Are you some sort of special case?

 

 

Don't know.... being a noob I thought that was normal...

[anjenthedog]

Being a noob, check to make sure Steam is running. Steam is required for playing Skyrim SE/AE/1.6x. The game will not start if it's not running.  You choose either online or offline operation. If you're using 1.5.97, choose offline to avoid any auto-updating of skyrim. If AE/1.6x you can choose either mode.

[Tokyoghoul67]

Just now, anjenthedog said:

Being a noob, check to make sure Steam is running. Steam is required for playing Skyrim SE/AE/1.6x. The game will not start if it's not running.  You choose either online or offline operation. If you're using 1.5.97, choose offline to avoid any auto-updating of skyrim. If AE/1.6x you can choose either mode.

Tried it with steam opened and still no luck.... Thinking of uninstalling the game and starting from scratch...

[Grey Cloud]

26 minutes ago, Tokyoghoul67 said:

I get to the main menu and then it disappears...

Quite likely a missing master.

Are you trying to load a save which had the two removed mods in it? Have you tried any other saves?

[Tokyoghoul67]

Just now, Grey Cloud said:

Quite likely a missing master.

Are you trying to load a save which had the two removed mods in it? Have you tried any other saves?

I can't even get to that screen... I get to the main menu where it says play, options, ets... hit play and it disappears. before it just went to where the options were continue, load, etc....

[Varithina]

Hmm, has it recently ermm updated to the ae version if so it will require updated files for quite a few things, including the ae version of skse, had this happen to me, it was blocked on updates, had several updates then all of a sudden came home and found that for whatever reason the ae updated had been downloaded and installed, leaving me with a wtf thoughs.

[Tokyoghoul67]

2 hours ago, Varithina said:

Hmm, has it recently ermm updated to the ae version if so it will require updated files for quite a few things, including the ae version of skse, had this happen to me, it was blocked on updates, had several updates then all of a sudden came home and found that for whatever reason the ae updated had been downloaded and installed, leaving me with a wtf thoughs.

I know the feeling.... I just uninstalled the game and reloaded all of the mods and now it's saying that the SKSE is not compatible with the game and some of the other mods are not compatible also... tempted to say screw it and go back to playing sims4 where they do updates and it doesn't mess with the mods.....

[Just Don't]

All we had to do, was follow the damn train, CJ! avoid updates.

If you had a 1.5.97 game you should've also kept a 2.0.20 SKSE and SKSE plugins (mods with a dll) for that version too. Installing mods for SE 1.6+ or newer versions of SKSE would result in a crash, updating one of your mods for these versions would have the same effect too. That's very avoidable and most mod managers should be very vocal about incompatible things failing to load...

If you reinstalled the game you have now a SE version of 1.6+, so unless you get the proper SKSE version and all your mods for that version, you'll keep experiencing crashes before the game even opens. You can downgrade (search downgrade patcher on the nexusmods site for SE). That + verifying your mods and SKSE are for 1.5.97 should be enough to avoid the crashies.

 

13 minutes ago, Tokyoghoul67 said:

and go back to playing sims4 where they do updates and it doesn't mess with the mods.....

Are you sure? whenever there is an update the forums are flooded with people asking why their games are crashing and posting something about last exceptions. Isn't that a Sims4 thing?

[Tokyoghoul67]

14 hours ago, Just Don't said:

All we had to do, was follow the damn train, CJ! avoid updates.

If you had a 1.5.97 game you should've also kept a 2.0.20 SKSE and SKSE plugins (mods with a dll) for that version too. Installing mods for SE 1.6+ or newer versions of SKSE would result in a crash, updating one of your mods for these versions would have the same effect too. That's very avoidable and most mod managers should be very vocal about incompatible things failing to load...

If you reinstalled the game you have now a SE version of 1.6+, so unless you get the proper SKSE version and all your mods for that version, you'll keep experiencing crashes before the game even opens. You can downgrade (search downgrade patcher on the nexusmods site for SE). That + verifying your mods and SKSE are for 1.5.97 should be enough to avoid the crashies.

 

Are you sure? whenever there is an update the forums are flooded with people asking why their games are crashing and posting something about last exceptions. Isn't that a Sims4 thing?

I had the 1.6+ version before this happened. I downloaded the same mods just like I did before and everything was working fine. I had/have the game set up not to receive updates. I played for a few hours that morning but when I tried to go in to play again later that day it stopped working. I will try again later on today to figure out wtf is going on with the mods...

[Varithina]

1 hour ago, Tokyoghoul67 said:

I had the 1.6+ version before this happened. I downloaded the same mods just like I did before and everything was working fine. I had/have the game set up not to receive updates. I played for a few hours that morning but when I tried to go in to play again later that day it stopped working. I will try again later on today to figure out wtf is going on with the mods...

 

Got to admit have had a few times where for whatever reason something went wrong with the mo/mo2 install and that install would simply not work for whatever reason, installed a new portable install of mo2 and installed everything (exact same mod list and install order as the old install) and it worked again, no idea what the problem ever was, or why it suddenly stopped working properly.

[anjenthedog]

FWIW,  if you uninstall any mods, I'd recommend that you do so in reverse order of installation, to minimize any associated problems. If you uninstall an "intermediate" mod, it can result in lost or improperly directed reference values, due to shifts in the load order vs the game save's presumed load order. It handles uninstallation of the last item installed in the load order pretty well, but it doesn't always when an intermediate one is uninstalled, often (ime) forcing you to backtrack to a save made *prior to installation of that mod to recover.

 

[Tokyoghoul67]

Ok, here's a question. This is what I used before as far as the SKSE goes and it worked even though I have the SE version of the game: SKSE build 2.1.5 (game version 1.6.353). I was told to use this one in the SexLab forum on this site regardless of whether I have SE or AE. This is now showing up as not being loaded. Should I use the one on the Steam site instead?