Where can i download Mod Pack ?

[Apex7DO]

I am looking for a mod pack which has everything installed like WW, NisaK, Animations, CAS, etc. I was looking for a while but i couldn't find anything. If you do know please let me know.

[GreyMouse]

There isn't one. Go download the ones that you want.

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[DarkAudit]

Mod packs are bad, mmm'kay? It encourages players to be lazy in the upkeep of their game. Invariably the modpack will become out dated as patches release and mods break.

 

Keeping the game running smoothly is YOUR responsibility. If you don't want to do that, seek out another game. A goldfish simulator, maybe.

[2cool4u_1]

9 hours ago, DarkAudit said:

If you don't want to do that, seek out another game. A goldfish simulator, maybe.

 

I thought you made that up, but then a quick Google search showed there is one. ??

https://globalgamejam.org/2015/games/goldfish-simulator

[DarkAudit]

2 minutes ago, 2cool4u_1 said:

I thought you made that up, but then a quick Google search showed there is one.

*I* thought I was making it up. I was paraphrasing the moodlet when your kids get taken away.

 

[Apex7DO]

10 hours ago, DarkAudit said:

It encourages players to be lazy in the upkeep of their game. Invariably the modpack will become out dated as patches release and mods break.

I wont deny that. I accidentally deleted my mod's folder (well it was pretty outdated) and tbh it's really time consuming. Last time it took me around 4-5 days (maybe more) to download it all and i really hate going through the same process again, but i guess i cant avoid it

 

19 hours ago, GreyMouse said:

There isn't one. Go download the ones that you want.

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I guess that's the only solution

[Oops19]

synthira.ru has a 5.7 GB pack with WW, objects and animations.

[Vthena]

40 minutes ago, Oops19 said:

synthira.ru has a 5.7 GB pack with WW, objects and animations.

 

Check for malware, adware, and virus. If you download from a russian/chinese website.
Some of my Sims & CC were packaged with malwares on russian websites. Despite being free to download on my Website/Patreon.

 

[Vthena]

46 minutes ago, Oops19 said:

synthira.ru has a 5.7 GB pack with WW, objects and animations.

I think it's not the first time you advertise stolen content. Which could harm people listening to you.

 

Please stop. Thank you.

[Oops19]

21 hours ago, LittleDoxy said:

I think it's not the first time you advertise stolen content. Which could harm people listening to you.

 

Please stop. Thank you.

From tos.ea.com/legalapp/WEBTERMS/US/en/PC/:
'When you contribute UGC, you grant to EA, its licensors and licensees a non-exclusive, perpetual, transferable, worldwide, sublicensable license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works, publicly perform, publicly display or otherwise transmit and communicate the UGC, or any portion of it, in any manner or form and in any medium or forum, whether now known or later devised, without notice, payment or attribution of any kind to you or any third party.'

I never advertise stolen content. I license all my software properly and advise everyone to do the same.


PS: loverslab.com/files/category/208-the-sims-4-sims/ contains sims with tons of UGC. One may claim that it is full of stolen content unless there is a difference between CAS parts and animations.

[Pamatronic]

On 12/9/2021 at 9:04 PM, Oops19 said:

From tos.ea.com/legalapp/WEBTERMS/US/en/PC/:
'When you contribute UGC, you grant to EA, its licensors and licensees a non-exclusive, perpetual, transferable, worldwide, sublicensable license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works, publicly perform, publicly display or otherwise transmit and communicate the UGC, or any portion of it, in any manner or form and in any medium or forum, whether now known or later devised, without notice, payment or attribution of any kind to you or any third party.'

And how exactly does this extend to dodgy russian websites? This exerp says that by submitting stuff, you grant license to EA, its licensors and licensees. I DOUBT that synthira.ru is anything oft these.

So yeah, You did advertise stolen content. Stop it.

 

And this is of course completely ignoring the Fact, that tos has no Legal power whatsoever. I feel like I see this discussion every second day, But companies can write whatever they want in their tos/eula. It doesnt mean anything. Remember that "Human Centipede" southpark episode? Same thing.

 

On 12/9/2021 at 9:04 PM, Oops19 said:

PS: loverslab.com/files/category/208-the-sims-4-sims/ contains sims with tons of UGC. One may claim that it is full of stolen content unless there is a difference between CAS parts and animations.

I would actually agree here, But the chance for Malware on LL is significantly lower than it is for russian sites. Doesnt make it right of course.

[Oops19]

On 12/11/2021 at 2:08 PM, Pamatronic said:

And how exactly does this extend to dodgy russian websites?
But the chance for Malware on LL is significantly lower than it is for russian sites.
tos has no Legal power

I didn't check the other content of the site as I was only referring to TS4 related stuff.
I see no point in checking all content  of another domain and all links from these domain to make sure that they don't contain warez or other inappropriate content. I'm quite sure no one does this, because at the end no one would post a link anymore, not even to LL.
I understand that you found warez on the domain or within links on this domain. But I don't get why you make a drama about it.

Everyone can send me a PM if they think something should better be removed or modified. False claims like 'you advertise stolen content' is a no-go.

 

Malware is not limited to one country, it's uploaded everywhere, also here. One should upload downloaded data to virustotal.com in any case.

 

At least EA bans users which use content or mods which do not comply to the EULA/TOS. As a player I trust that the EULA/TOS is valid and gives everyone who has a TS4 license the rights mentioned above regarding UGC. 99.9999 % of creators use EA data structures and formats to provide UGC. It is a derived work with it's own copyright while one should be aware how it is licensed.
For CC creators there are renderosity.com, daz3d.com, secondlife.com, ... to sell their meshes and textures. Also EA does - as far as I know - not ban users who to put their UGC behind a paywall.

[Vthena]

On 12/9/2021 at 9:04 PM, Oops19 said:

PS: loverslab.com/files/category/208-the-sims-4-sims/ contains sims with tons of UGC. One may claim that it is full of stolen content unless there is a difference between CAS parts and animations.

 

Mods aren't part of the UGC.

[Khlas]

20 hours ago, Oops19 said:

But I don't get why you make a drama about it.

 

 

There's no drama. Also you don't mastery what you're taking about. Moreover, downloading a full pack is just bad because then people will ask why a particular thing is not working while it's their fault because they decided to download a mega pack because of laziness. 

 

Also did you read the UGC yourself? Because selling CC is not against their UGC at all. You should read it more carefully. The only power they have is to stop people having the ability to create mods for their games (even if this will kill it anyway).

 

This UGC is too general, for sims this UGC is very exploitable since they allows explicitly by design the ability to mods the game as well as the devs sharing stuff to let people modding. They even collab with creators. How can they claim a creation if they allow and glorify it themselves? It's not how things works. This UGC is bullshit. And I'm not going to start to talk about art.

[Oops19]

7 hours ago, LittleDoxy said:

 

Mods aren't part of the UGC.

From my point of view mods are also UGC:

• The EULA may prohibit to reverse engineer any code and data provided by EA, mods are based on such data.
• All mods contain small code snippets by EA / TS4 (fair use).
• Many mods copy TS4 functions and modify 2-3 lines in them.
• Mods will all not work if the dependencies to TS4 code (like import buffs.buff) are removed.
• A new Pie Menu usually copies TS4 code 1:1.
• Animations use the TS4 rig (or an extended one).
• Recolors usually clone an existing TS4 item, even if bones and new meshes are added.
• The EULA does not apply to modders or animators who don't own a TS4 license. Mods, items, rigs are available in many places. So one can create new stuff but one should not assume that one can change the license at all.
• Copyright for new code and ideas still belongs to the owner of the mod.

I hope you understand why I think that it is UGC even though I may be wrong.

 

It's not that I haven't thought of a way to create mods without crating UGC. A way around may be to provide an interface for TS4 to be able to call functions remotely without using any EA code. The interface would still be UGC from my point of view but every mod using it can also run without TS4 (like the XML Extractor, Sims4Studio, a Multi-Player server using a network protocol to communicate with TS4).


@ Khlas: I read also the clarifications asked in the EA forum regarding the TOS.
I don't think that downloading a full pack with outdated animations and/or broken items will make the user happy if they install everything. (It's like driving from A to B - the shortest way is a straight line but it can cause some trouble.) If one lost all mods and/or don't plan to update anims monthly it should work.
Users can look at it and if they like one author they may even subscribe to their Patreon.