CDT - how to know?

[Guest]

I am just wondering how i can find out what mod or configuration may be the culprit.
If i look in the documents folder and check the logs, i can not see any error anywhere.

Is there mod for errors?

 

I installed some additional mods for Skyrim SE. One was yps fashion but i am not sure if thats the mod that crashes my game. It could be any other mod as well.

I just do not want to say that mod causes it, when its something else where i just do not know.

 

The last freezes i got really froze the game entirely. Meaning i had to log out of windows in order to have a desktop. I always thought Windows would be capable to isolate apps. Seems not the case i suppose.

 

[anjenthedog]

1) there is no need to log off windows or reboot your computer. Hit crl-alt-del, open the program manager, then kill the Skryim.exe process.

 

2) In general, if I install a mod and then find my game crashing, uninstalling the offending mod usually does the trick, as long as I then open a savefile made prior to its installation. (savefiles made *after* a mod has been installed often contain crap from said mod which can cause issues. not always, but often enough to make it something of a total waste of time).

 

If you installed multiple mods (as is often the case when these sorts of posts pop up) you should uninstall one by one, very importantly in reverse order of installation, checking for game operation in between each uninstallariton. Once you find the "bad" mod, uninstall it

 

Now. suppose you had installed 6 mods and it took you four to find the bad guy. You'll now install each one of the 3 removed mods that didn't fix the issue (sans the one known "bad" mod), one by one, checking for solid game operation before installing the next, as you should have done all along.

 

In the future, I'd strongly advise you to install new mods one by one, and then check the game thoroughly for issues before deciding to toss in a new one.  If it does turn out to be bad, you can then uninstall and simply load the last know good save with minimal progress loss.

[Guest]

@anjenthedog

Bummer, so there is no log that would reveal the error.

 

Yes, i suppose. I used that strategy as well. Though sometimes i just can not part from some mods.

 

Thanks for explaining. This is will be long journey then.

 

 

[Alessia Wellington]

One of .NET Script Framework features is to put out detailed crash logs. It can help you identify the cause of a crash.

[coolfreaky]

you have a safe road as anjenthedog said .

you can have a crash log as Alessia Wellington said . ( often hard to understand )

you can also have papyrus log  it is not a crash log  but gives the events , issues that can be resolve to make a better gaming .

How to enable Papyrus Logging at Skyrim Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com)

you can have also TesEdit /Xedit  to see what is overlapping or might be in conflict .

 

and for sure use often Loot  ( in vortex give priorities to plugins and lock them , in MO sometimes you need to lock plugins in Load Order ) .

categorize and order your mods and make sure they do not overwrite wrongly an other mod ( your mod can be correctly set in the Load Order but on the left side it overwrite an importante mod ; that can cause a CDT ) .

 

 

[anjenthedog]

I didn't say there are never logs. There are logs, and they *can* help in some cases (probably of exceptional value to mod developers)... Most times though, at least in my experience, as a defacto retired physicist/engineer/programmer,  nah.  

 

I answered as I did because I knew where this was headed. If you want logs, just do a search on the Skyrim folder using the tag .log

 

for me, a few gold pieces or some armor or weapon or even a full cave or ruin run, isn't worth spending two realworld days trying to debug an issue that more often than  not cannot be solved. That's what I meant. But if you want to pursue that rabbit hole, you might find it's as simple as changing some bit in an ini file or cleaning your save file or patching a mod or gerrymandering some script in some broken mod. Go for it. Sky's the limit. It's your game after all. I've done with the rabbit hole digging. (with two exceptions: 1) shiny body, 2) lobster hands, both of which are cosmetic and do not cause CTDs or freezes or other real problems)

 

See... if you clear the issue you can focus on the problem without compromising your gameplay. You can always install the offending mod again later, but at least then you know what you're up against. This is a basic troubleshooting principle when dealing with large groups of unknowns. Isolate the problem then address the problem. 

[Guest]

Thanks to all of you and for those that have a holiday today, happy holiday.

 

Well, i will dig with that information in it and see what i can find.

This is all useful and as @anjenthedog mentioned, this is a good strategy.

I know, i like to stuff mods in my load just because they do what i was looking for. And so, i have no regard for breakage. Well, that is until i do not know why.

I always thought logs would give me information but if i look at the log file the first what i notice, is no time stamp. So its hard to know when what was logged.

And worst, i could not find anything that would raise an issue since everything loaded fine.

So it seems that the approach with installing one by one is the safest one.

This is hard for me. I know me.

 

I will install the mod suggested by @Alessia Wellington. This may give some more light.

 

Papyrus is enabled but does not contain what i was looking for.  But that is ok.

 

Like i said, i have to thank you all. Sometimes i may be stubborn but in the end i follow the suggestions.

Today i will rest. Its holiday At least here in the US.

 

Have a great day.

[fishburger67]

One final thing.  You can have a perfectly good mod load and still crash if you have too much of a script load.  Skyrim does not give any errors, it just dies when it is overloaded.

 

Elephants latency checker is useful to test this.

[Guest]

I have 122 mods running at the moment.

 

Let me check that tool.

Thank you

 

p.s. i got to add that my game does not crash all the time. It happens here and there. So i kind of ok with it. I save a lot.

[anjenthedog]

58 minutes ago, wutpickel said:

I know, i like to stuff mods in my load just because they do what i was looking for. And so, i have no regard for breakage. Well, that is until i do not know why.

Heh... I know. I used to do that too. I got myself so twisted around that I almost gave up playing skyrim a couple of times. I suppose that's why I'm so earnest about "plodding" when installing stuff. 

 

In general I'm kinda careless with textures and presets, but anything else I try to make sure to install one at a time with a ~thorough game check before adding any new(er) mod

 

Anyway, hope it all works out and Happy Thanksgiving to you as well