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ANGRYWOLVERINE

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uh sigh.

 

Recently I have had 3 occasions where my antivirus blocked a download from a mod site because the mod supposedly had a virus,

I am concerned that hackers are taking advantage of the exodus from the Nexus by inflitrating mod sites and planting virus on mods hoping players download the mod.

Of course since antivirus programs can sometimes be wrong I am reluctant as I don't want to be accused of callling out someone.

 Stll if it is a virus it's irritating that seems to be going on and making things more difficult than they already are,

Just my opinion.

 

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Papersword

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I noticed the Mods got one clear trojan. And, I saw a suspicious DLL injector, but it came from a user that had a pretty long history here. Unsure if it was a virus. Just be careful what you download and let the Mods know. They'll get on it. We got a good community here. Just have to watch each other's backs.

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donttouchmethere

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4 hours ago, ANGRYWOLVERINE said:

yeah yeah haha.It is to laugh. I am not offended btw.

I don't come here very often so I was unsure how to report it so I just sent Ashal a message,

Thanks for the feedback.

 

I might just be spoiled by LL because I haven't caught any virus (Skyrim) from LL yet. I haven't seen a virus on Nexus either (Skyrim).

However, I have sometimes had false virus warnings. In my experience it depends on what kind of virus scanner you use and in which directories you save downloaded data and of course the data type.

For example, saving a macro and unpacked scripts in Windows system directories will surely give you a warning (especially from Windows Defender).

 

Definitely better to be careful.

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On 8/31/2021 at 12:45 AM, ANGRYWOLVERINE said:

[...] taking advantage of the exodus from the Nexus [...]

 

What exodus? It's only a tiny number of people who got upset over the realities of the internet. Joe Blow modder with an attitude does not possess the skills to write a virus.

 

I've had more problems with poorly programmed scripts than I've had with viruses in something like 20 years. Worth a reply because we don't see reminders to scrutinize scripts anymore. Online JavaScript conditioned people to not care, and this is bad.

 

A poorly written batch file can delete your disk. A bad Python script can overwrite anything. PowerShell can invoke a .NET compiler in a privileged context and do whatever. In this day and age, interpreted code is significantly more of a problem because it doesn't actually /run/ until its compiled, and the vast majority of it runs through central binaries that have APIs for web access. Amateurs often forget to include basic safety checks, and I'm unaware of any serious heuristic analyzers that get involved with JIT outside of Java.

 

...Nevermind mods. Do you own Photoshop? Adobe thinks its a great idea to run a node server on your computer. Windows Firewall doesn't work the way you think it does, and that game you downloaded with anti-cheat software includes a kernel-mode driver which can be exploited. I would argue that the biggest virus vectors in 2021 are commercial products designed by college kids who didn't grow up with ActiveX...

 

Just sayin' ;).

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Oh, can't really say anything about Windows Defender....I figured the one made by Microsoft wouldn't be a great choice to use anyways. I've went through so many way back then, AVG, Norton, more obscure stuff and all that. But ever since I got Avast (this was like, multiple years ago, too lol) I haven't had a single virus problem at all. I think the last time I got something was a trojan last year and Avast took it out with no problem seconds after I downloaded it. So yeah I've been sticking with that one, of course with MalwareBytes being my backup.

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23 hours ago, Joeynator3000 said:

Oh, can't really say anything about Windows Defender....I figured the one made by Microsoft wouldn't be a great choice to use anyways. I've went through so many way back then, AVG, Norton, more obscure stuff and all that. But ever since I got Avast (this was like, multiple years ago, too lol) I haven't had a single virus problem at all. I think the last time I got something was a trojan last year and Avast took it out with no problem seconds after I downloaded it. So yeah I've been sticking with that one, of course with MalwareBytes being my backup.


Windows Defender is actually very solid these days, and unless you are running a company computer, or some other system that is under constant active attacks, you don't need to have more than that for an anti-virus.

If you think, that you REALLY need more, then I'd suggest Bitdefender for free, Kaspersky or F-Secure for paid. But seriously, having redundant anti-virus is actually not useful or good, because it just takes up system resources. A good solid defense against getting viruses through a web browser, is just using something like NoScript (for firefox) and installing an IP block list (it's just a hosts file not a program) against know attack sites, like this one I like to use: https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts

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Zor2k13

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Tried eset lately? seen good results from them for a long time now. I'm surprised viruses even show up on consumer devices anymore. I have been reading stories in the news over the last seven years or so about viruses being found on bank computers and crazy stories of hackers legally robbing banks by hacking bank teller computers and moving money from many accounts to a foreign branch account then some mule is sent do withdraw all of "their" money. Before that started there were many ATM machine usb drive hacks in south korea and elsewhere around the world. I'm really surprised anyone wastes their time on individual consumers anymore except there must still be that gullible 1 or 2% of grandmas out there believing anything that some indian accent says on the phone.

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Joeynator3000

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1 hour ago, supernipsu said:


Windows Defender is actually very solid these days, and unless you are running a company computer, or some other system that is under constant active attacks, you don't need to have more than that for an anti-virus.

If you think, that you REALLY need more, then I'd suggest Bitdefender for free, Kaspersky or F-Secure for paid. But seriously, having redundant anti-virus is actually not useful or good, because it just takes up system resources. A good solid defense against getting viruses through a web browser, is just using something like NoScript (for firefox) and installing an IP block list (it's just a hosts file not a program) against know attack sites, like this one I like to use: https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts

 

Eh, I'm fine with Avast, I just never had any luck with all of the other stuff I'd tried in the past. But ever since Avast I've had zero virus issues.

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Avast paid version might be ok but their free version is terrible it is really basic so you end up wanting the paid version. Kaspersky or eset have been very good over the years with kaspersky being more aggressive by default requiring some settings to keep it from slowing a pc down. Eset is much more easy on the resources and their firewall learning mode has been easy to use. You can teach it what programs you want going in and out so it questions all other programs only. 

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2 hours ago, Zor2k13 said:

Kaspersky or eset have been very good over the years with kaspersky being more aggressive by default requiring some settings to keep it from slowing a pc down

 

I can definitely confirm this. Ever since I switched from Avast to Kaspersky, my computer has been dipping a bit. But there's no way I can go back to Avast, since it's way too heavy handed. 

 

 

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KoolHndLuke

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Well, one security tip I took away from classes is to not use your computer signed in as admin, but as a user instead. Anytime you need to access certain things, you will be prompted for your credentials to do so. Remember that anyone with those credentials effectively has the keys to your pc just like they would your car. Check into sandboxing if you're interested in ways to run suspicious programs safely. Was telling someone just last night that I want to move all my stuff to a hypervisor so I can have better control over it. You can basically isolate an app or program to where it only has access to just what it needs to run and nothing more in a safe virtual environment away from your OS, hardware and network. Admittedly this takes some studying to learn how to implement effectively, but I feel it should be what we logically move to in an ever more sophisticated and potentially dangerous internet world.

 

 

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