Valiantfour Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 Hello there fellow lab-lovers (that's what they call us, right?... right?). Thank you for clicking on this post, and in doing so, sacrificing your valuable time for a Vortex noob like me. And boy do I appriciate it, because I'm in a rather dire situation here. I'll try to respect your time by keeping it short and to the point. Short version –-> right now I get a CTD every time I try to load a save-file The current problem can be sumerized as follows: - Slow start-up of the game when launching from Vortex (1,45 minutes to reach the main menu) - Crash when accessing inventory of any sort - Crash when loading ANY save-file - Send help, please... Load order in the spoiler below! 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I quickly noticed that something was amiss when super mutants were running around with purple willies... ? I went looking for a skeleton/replacer that could to fix this, and one hour later I was knee-deep in a plethora of AAF mods topped off with patches and what-not! Miraculously enough, it actually worked out exactly the way I wanted... for a very brief amount of time ? When I was done testing the new mods (you know, for science) I reached for my pip-boy so I could track a quest. And then CRASH! Little did I know that this would turn out to be a huge problem. I experienced the same form of crash when clicking on the 'inventory' tab (so a crash as soon as I pressed “I”). So, okay, it is probably a UI-issue (which is odd, since I haven't really made any changes to the interface today). With wavering determination, I set out to reinstall DEF_UI and Valdacils item sorting, but it was to no avail ? Then suddenly, on my third attempt - the game decides to crash when loading a save-file, and that's where my story ends. Sorry for dragging this out. I'm hoping that someone out there can help me, this is the third Bethesda game that I've broken so far... and my self-esteem demands that I at least finish ONE of their darn games! xD TL;DR I have probably messed something up in my load-order, can anyone spot the problem?
Indarello Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 13 hours ago, Valiantfour said: Hello there fellow lab-lovers (that's what they call us, right?... right?). Thank you for clicking on this post, and in doing so, sacrificing your valuable time for a Vortex noob like me. And boy do I appriciate it, because I'm in a rather dire situation here. I'll try to respect your time by keeping it short and to the point. Short version –-> right now I get a CTD every time I try to load a save-file The current problem can be sumerized as follows: - Slow start-up of the game when launching from Vortex (1,45 minutes to reach the main menu) - Crash when accessing inventory of any sort - Crash when loading ANY save-file - Send help, please... Load order in the spoiler below! 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I quickly noticed that something was amiss when super mutants were running around with purple willies... ? I went looking for a skeleton/replacer that could to fix this, and one hour later I was knee-deep in a plethora of AAF mods topped off with patches and what-not! Miraculously enough, it actually worked out exactly the way I wanted... for a very brief amount of time ? When I was done testing the new mods (you know, for science) I reached for my pip-boy so I could track a quest. And then CRASH! Little did I know that this would turn out to be a huge problem. I experienced the same form of crash when clicking on the 'inventory' tab (so a crash as soon as I pressed “I”). So, okay, it is probably a UI-issue (which is odd, since I haven't really made any changes to the interface today). With wavering determination, I set out to reinstall DEF_UI and Valdacils item sorting, but it was to no avail ? Then suddenly, on my third attempt - the game decides to crash when loading a save-file, and that's where my story ends. Sorry for dragging this out. I'm hoping that someone out there can help me, this is the third Bethesda game that I've broken so far... and my self-esteem demands that I at least finish ONE of their darn games! xD My Skyrim playthrough got corrupted, and my F:New Vegas got modded into oblivion (pun intended). TL;DR I have probably messed something up in my load-order, can anyone spot the problem? I dont know if somebody interested in reading so much of text plus some of it also dont have any value, but not me, and I suggest you to post small informative messages instead and try disable group of mods and test if it fix your ctd
Valiantfour Posted August 4, 2021 Author Posted August 4, 2021 I'm sorry to hear that. I tried to make it short and informative in with the text highligted in bold, while at the same time giving a more elaborated walkthrough of the issue (plus some humour to the situation) in the text that follows. It is my first forum post, I'll try to do better next time.
Slorm Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 @Valiantfour Have you installed Buffout which I gather addresses the UI CTD problem and is needed if you've installed the UAP patch. (I don't use it myself as I don't have any UI mods or the Patch as I use the Creature Resource pack instead and Baka Scrapheap, but don't follow what I do as it's a bit unorthodox.) You'll find this guide very helpful setting things up
Valiantfour Posted August 4, 2021 Author Posted August 4, 2021 38 minutes ago, Slorm said: @Valiantfour Have you installed Buffout which I gather addresses the UI CTD problem and is needed if you've installed the UAP patch. (I don't use it myself as I don't have any UI mods or the Patch as I use the Creature Resource pack instead and Baka Scrapheap, but don't follow what I do as it's a bit unorthodox.) You'll find this guide very helpful setting things up I haven't actually (got a little bit confused and frightened by the description on Nexus). Thank you for the guide, I'll try it out right away! ?
Valiantfour Posted August 4, 2021 Author Posted August 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Slorm said: @Valiantfour Have you installed Buffout which I gather addresses the UI CTD problem and is needed if you've installed the UAP patch. (I don't use it myself as I don't have any UI mods or the Patch as I use the Creature Resource pack instead and Baka Scrapheap, but don't follow what I do as it's a bit unorthodox.) You'll find this guide very helpful setting things up UPDATE: You are my hero! Everything work as intended now ? I've glanced at Buffout before, but I was never too comfortable with my ability to install it (and it's many requirements). Once again, thank you.
Slorm Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Valiantfour said: UPDATE: You are my hero! Everything work as intended now ? I've glanced at Buffout before, but I was never too comfortable with my ability to install it (and it's many requirements). Once again, thank you. I'm really glad you've got it working. Have fun
Saya Scarlett Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 5 hours ago, Valiantfour said: UPDATE: You are my hero! Everything work as intended now ? I've glanced at Buffout before, but I was never too comfortable with my ability to install it (and it's many requirements). Once again, thank you. I just added proper Buffout 4 Installation instructions far down the Fucking Manual. Buffout's 4 mod page doesn't go as much into detail as it should.
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