SmedleyDButler Posted July 5, 2021 Posted July 5, 2021 Today, Nexus put up a news post about a collections feature they're trying to implement: https://www.nexusmods.com/news/14538 This is not a thread to debate about whether this is a valid change or not. If you want to discuss that rather thorny question, 27X already has a thread for that right here: What I'm specifically interested in is that at least some mod authors are going to take the offer to have all their work deleted, including some major ones. So if you know of any major authors or mods who've said they'll be deleting their work, feel free to share those while they're still on Nexus (bad form to do it after deletion, obviously). This is also a heads-up to Skyrim peeps who don't often visit the general LL forums that this is coming/underway and that you might want to download any mods you've bookmarked for "later" right away.
Guest Posted July 5, 2021 Posted July 5, 2021 I'm sure there is, but all of mine have always been here anyways, now they will only be here. They make you email, then they message you, then they put you thru one last security check. Its good to do I guess
27X Posted July 5, 2021 Posted July 5, 2021 I won't punish the people accessing the stuff I have up now, but I will be fucked if Nexus sees a dime or meg of any other content ever, and that includes wabbajack direct rips. There were a million other ways to handle this and Nexus chose only the one that benefited them solely. This is their character, this is their philosophy.
MonVert Posted July 5, 2021 Posted July 5, 2021 Considering most of my mods are too large to be hosted on LL.... Putting a link on LL to your Google/Onedrive doesn't really count as "Putting it on LL".
Guest Posted July 5, 2021 Posted July 5, 2021 18 minutes ago, MonVert said: Considering most of my mods are too large to be hosted on LL.... Putting a link on LL to your Google/Onedrive doesn't really count as "Putting it on LL". It still would, other modders do it as well, but at least in the end you still own your mods
Guest Posted July 5, 2021 Posted July 5, 2021 26 minutes ago, 27X said: There were a million other ways to handle this and Nexus chose only the one that benefited them solely. This is their character, this is their philosophy. 100 percent correct.
MonVert Posted July 5, 2021 Posted July 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, -Caden- said: It still would, other modders do it as well, but at least in the end you still own your mods No, it wouldn't... Since it's not actually hosted on LL. You might as well just give people the direct link to your drive on discord, or whatever other medium you use to advertise yourself, and bypass needing to visit LL in the first place. Likewise, you don't control anything, because once people have it downloaded it's bound to pop up somewhere else. P.S. Technically, Google/Microsoft/Dropbox/whoever control your drive, ultimately. ?
Guest Posted July 5, 2021 Posted July 5, 2021 Just now, MonVert said: No, it wouldn't... Since it's not actually hosted on LL. You might as well just give people the direct link to your drive on discord, or whatever other medium you use to advertise yourself, and bypass needing to visit LL in the first place. You can do that, but some mod authors have a text file you download from here then you open the text file in the link, in the end, people came to loverslab to get the link. There are many ways to do things
MonVert Posted July 5, 2021 Posted July 5, 2021 1 minute ago, -Caden- said: You can do that, but some mod authors have a text file you download from here then you open the text file in the link, in the end, people came to loverslab to get the link. There are many ways to do things And the link will most certainly pop-up in a search engine, or will be shared by other groups; negating the need to come here for "A link". It's like asking people to join fifty different discords, one for each mod author; they won't all come here for "A couple of links".
Guest Posted July 5, 2021 Posted July 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, MonVert said: And the link will most certainly pop-up in a search engine, or will be shared by other groups; negating the need to come here for "A link". It's like asking people to join fifty different discords, one for each mod author; they won't all come here for "A couple of links". You have people doing that anyway, its been goin on long before this, with or without Nexus, take peoples mods and sharing thru discord. sharing it here, and uploading it to different sites. Doesnt mean you will get everyone to come here, I get it some people are "scared" of Loverslab because of the Adult content, so they go thru other avenues to get their adult content...the Irony.
MonVert Posted July 5, 2021 Posted July 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, -Caden- said: You have people doing that anyway, its been goin on long before this, with or without Nexus, take peoples mods and sharing thru discord. sharing it here, and uploading it to different sites. Doesnt mean you will get everyone to come here, I get it some people are "scared" of Loverslab because of the Adult content, so they go thru other avenues to get their adult content...the Irony. There is that, yes, but you also need to understand that the search engine is hot garbage on LL, and there aren't easy ways of following author activity. Short of active projects... it's a massive pain to find anything here.
Guest Posted July 5, 2021 Posted July 5, 2021 Just now, MonVert said: There is that, yes, but you also need to understand that the search engine is hot garbage on LL, and there aren't easy ways of following author activity. Short of active projects... it's a massive pain to find anything here. That is a good point, I just search it thru google myself, will type in something like "Loverslab Defeat", Its truly all opinion based, if you want exposure, then a lot of people go to Nexus, cause Nexus doesnt allow the hardcore sex stuff, they only allow followers that look like 11 year old girls. Personally I would rather have a few decent people using my stuff that give legit input and don't have to have comments ever other day like : " This mod broke my game " From a bunch of entitled noobs that don't know what they are doing. ? But again, it is opinion based and I wouldn't judge others for taking a different route then what I would take, Do whats best for you my friend
SmedleyDButler Posted July 6, 2021 Author Posted July 6, 2021 MonVert, please take it to the other thread. I literally said arguing is not what this thread is for in the OP specifically NOT to have a bunch of clutter posts in between ones about particular mods or authors.
SmedleyDButler Posted July 6, 2021 Author Posted July 6, 2021 Tasheni's work is all gone, as far as I can tell. Hidden July 1st. Tasheni does have a note on their profile stating they will be re-uploading their work to another site as soon as they find one, so hopefully they'll be back at some point. Among other things, there were some very detailed reworks and expansions of the sorely under-modded vanilla Redguard outfits which looked like they were coming along nicely.
Varithina Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 There are quite a few things that showed up as updated through nexus, that were basically the author deleting their account and files, some say they are going to re-upload to other locations, usually their own sites somewhere else or patreon or discord or whatever some are saying nothing just deleting them, which in that case sucks, sure it is their right but it still sucks for those using those mods.
MaxRex Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 14 hours ago, 27X said: I won't punish the people God... is that you?
Guest Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 5 hours ago, Varithina said: There are quite a few things that showed up as updated through nexus, that were basically the author deleting their account and files, some say they are going to re-upload to other locations, usually their own sites somewhere else or patreon or discord or whatever some are saying nothing just deleting them, which in that case sucks, sure it is their right but it still sucks for those using those mods. Thats not ideal. Everyone that likes to mod his game will go to Nexus. If files are hosted somewhere else, where would they get the information that it is actually hosted somewhere else? I did see some host their files somewhere else like the poly stuff. Sometimes tumbler. This is getting very fractured. Why not GitHub? I wonder what would happen if really essential mods are gone.
Varithina Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 3 hours ago, wutpickel said: Thats not ideal. Everyone that likes to mod his game will go to Nexus. If files are hosted somewhere else, where would they get the information that it is actually hosted somewhere else? Hopefully, they will leave their nexus account in place, delete the files attached, then on their profile place a link to where they are now keeping their files, not ideal but nothing much we can do about it, well I suppose somebody could create a new place like nexus, but that would I imagine not be easy or cheap to do, if only for the server/disk space rentals, unless you are on a high bandwith site where you could build your own servers, hopefully many will come here or go to nsfw, which at least means only two places to check for updates, hell nexus may well after the backlash and things settle down change their mind, they pretty much did about what was in effect paid modding a while back after all.
Guest Posted July 7, 2021 Posted July 7, 2021 The ''How to create the place in which everyone is going to check for news'' and the ''Advertisement and Youtube users who will take the content and showcase'' issue is the biggest problem. Game specific forums hosted anywhere are one thing although the majority doesn't like forums and Discord is more for when you search something specific usually linked to like ''Hey you can find more here on this link'' Youtube alone is a mess to search for stuff or manage to get your new mod while nobody knows you and reddit as well unless you track a certain forum usually linked to if you got pointed there. Patreon even worse more for hosting your work and it's not like anyone will search for it. He has to be pointed there and that again requires advertisement through channels or sites everyone will see for whatever reason. Github is fine for alot of tools and Frameworks with changelogs etc. but that's that. S.T.E.P modifications i consider a good place for tools and frameworks and guides as it is. Social medias? Personally not a fan of them but it requires major sites hosting a certain selection of content and be active around the clock there but it's still a mess because their Category sorting options are not meant for that. Whatever fixes these issues is good. It just has to be atractive enough and needs Youtube Channels with a huge public to assume the task of Advertising. It won't matter where the data is stored. All sorts of data storage links will be fine. It's more the Categories that matter (The ease of search) There has to be something like a Blog, even as simple as ESkyrim blog, a Central HUB so to speak and in turn link to Specific Sites and have a Category.
goaway Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 On 7/6/2021 at 5:02 AM, Varithina said: sure it is their right but it still sucks for those using those mods. I removed my mod from nexus as soon as I got the notification. I know it sucks for the people who want to use the mod. I haven't had time to work on it or update it in a very long time, but I'm sure there were probably still some people who will be worse off because of this decision. I will have to update the mega link on this site at some point, because I think it is no longer working, so there currently aren't any ways to download my mod right now. For right now: I hope that you can understand that people removing mods isn't about drama, hate on modpacks/collections, fear of change, or mod authors throwing a temper tantrum. There are legitimate reasons why this change is unacceptable. I put my explanation why in my nexus profile; To summarize: The ability to remove your own mod from nexus was the one and only practical recourse mod authors have/had to prevent nexus from arbitrarily changing their rules/policies on a whim, such as a Terms-of-Service update that retroactively stipulates whatever files I upload legally become the property of Nexusmods.com. Basically, if Nexus tries to claim ownership of, or monetize my work, without my consent, I can choose not to be a part of nexus anymore. By removing the ability of an author to delete what they upload, they are effectively removing the ONLY means you have of keeping them honest. Mod authors now have zero leverage. All we can do to prevent abuses, after this change takes place, is complain publicly, and there's no REAL reason why they can't just ignore these complaints. Users are not going to stop visiting nexus or downloading mods from there just because of some underhanded policy updates, no matter how much bad publicity it generates. Why would they? Do I think nexus will ACTUALLY start stealing credit and/or putting popular mods behind a premium paywall? No, probably not. That's not the point. Simply: I won't be a part of a system that takes all the power away from the content creators in exchange for agreeing to host files (with a capped download speed, no less). Right now they claim they are "temporarily archiving" mods before deleting them. I am skeptical whether they will honor their claim that archiving it is "only temporary before deleting it". If they don't actually follow through on that, I think it will say a lot about what they were REALLY planning. If you ever see my mod on nexus again, you can be 100% certain that I did not give them permission to do so.
SmedleyDButler Posted July 16, 2021 Author Posted July 16, 2021 But which mods were yours? That's kind of the point of this thread.
blank_v Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 On 7/5/2021 at 11:15 PM, MonVert said: Considering most of my mods are too large to be hosted on LL.... Putting a link on LL to your Google/Onedrive doesn't really count as "Putting it on LL". Ehh idk xD i checked ur profile and i see only one Mod too lazy to see its size... but yeee... Kashal and his 200MB ( now 250Mb ) file size limit is annoying xD BUT !... There is no limit for Description File upload :)... so there is simple solution: -> Keep ESP file in Main Downloads -> Keep Meshes/Textures and other heavy things in Description But... about Shitxus... I'm happy that they making this shit website even worse for author :)... I got deleted on Nexus almost 50 times, some bans were on IP ( but not mine IP XDDDD hahaha ) I hate how this shit website works, all they care about is fking money, and money for fking what?... Hosting Files in really bad way?... I can pay Google for More space for my files I can pay Mega for more space for my files but Fuck Nexus and their fking Hosting... I know Shitxus Admins and i simply hate those stupid kid fucks... If what they doing now will make Mod Authors quit Shitxus -> GOOD, very good <33 Btw. i quit Skyrim for while but looks like im back xDD... For last 4 weeks when i was offline in Skyrim i was playing Factorio... but fuck those fucks too ;x... Looks like Factorio Devs are also Fucked just like Nexus Admins... I typed pretty long Suggestion on Factorio forum, i made ScreenShots and Pictures ( using Paint xD but still ) Dev just Said "No" and moved my Topic to Garbage... So I'm back to LoversLab <333 On 7/16/2021 at 6:01 AM, SmedleyDButler said: But which mods were yours? That's kind of the point of this thread. Ohh u want to know about My Mods on Nexus?... ill tell u... and im gonna also say how fucked Nexus Admins are !... There was more Mods but i uploaded them on Steam and then deleted after Steam wanted to charge money on Mods they didnt made... so Fuck s(hit)team... - NightWorld ( uploaded on Nexus around 2016 ) There was no problem with Shitxus Admins, i simply removed this Mod myself... but there were other problems with other Mods and Shitxus Admins Spoiler Spoiler Video: Spoiler - Face Light You probably know similar mod with similar name... and tbh i was inspired by original FaceLight Mod However i used 0% of Original Mod Scripts or Files... i made my own FaceLight Mod because Original mod was too simple for me i simply wanted to add option so u can switch Bone to which Your light is attached, my version had extra option to 1) Switch light color ( Red, Green, Blue, White, Omega ( that was my fav. light xD ( 210, 160, 210 ) - but i can be wrong xD ) 2) Switch bone to which Light was attached... If i remember i was using this Function to change which node i was using for Light: https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=SetModelPath_-_Armor But it was years ago so i don't remember, i would have to test Functions again to remember... But anywaa... Those fucks from Nexus deleted my Mod because they were thinking that i just COPY original Mod... but i made it from fkign scratch... They simply deleted it AND DIDNT EVEN CHECKED FKIGN SOURCE CODE... Btw. my FaceLight was providing Source Code, original FaceLight is not... Then i renamed Mod to PhotoLight but i didnt reuploaded it on Shitxus... and i was not active on LL so nothing on LL i was using Tes.gamers.ru those times... ( but mod is already gone ) - Tobias Radio That mod was uploaded by me in 2018 but then reuploaded in 2019 and then deleted again... by ofc. Idiot Nexus Admins... I made video for those stupid fucks and look at that frame: ( read what im writing in Console ) Spoiler If You want Full video: ( its private or not public... i don't remember ) Spoiler Anywaa... first i uploaded Tobias radio and then i reuploaded it... in both situations those stupid worthless fucks deleted my Mod and reason? "Using copyright music" BUT THERE WAS NO FKING MUSIC INSIDE THIS FKING MOD... again those stupid fucks deleted Mod WITHOUT EVEN CHECKING IF THEY ARE FKING RIGHT... Idiot Nexus Admin #1: "Ohh should we delete this?" Idiot Nexus Admin #2: "Maybe lets check it first, if it really break any rules?" Idiot Nexus Admin #1: "Naa... waste of time... he probably break like few rules... we can delete without checking it" Idiot Nexus Admin #2: "Ohh yee right, probably... so lets delete it" But here comes best part... there is some other mods on Shitxus that USE COPYRIGHT FKING MUSIC INSIDE MOD... I mentioned that to those stupid fucks and as answer i got "I can't do anything about that" SO HOW THE FUCK HE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT MY MOD THAT BREAKS NO RULES BUT HE CANT DO SHIT TO MOD THAT ACTUALY BREAK RULES?... Ahh... there was one really important difference between me and other Mod Author... He had SUPPORTER rank... so he pay money to Shitxus... If You want to do something good for Trashrim community, and You want to use Shitxus to that... You better be at least Paid user on Nexus... or they gonna be dicks for You... Anywaa... i got annoyed and i wanted to rage on Shitxus xDD... HOPE ONE DAY NEXUS WILL BE GONE !!! AND EVERYONE QUIT THAT SHIT !!! Here is some other pics if u want to see: Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler
MonVert Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 2 hours ago, -̒̈́̕?̖̪̼?̒̈́̕??̒̈́̕?- said: Ehh idk xD i checked ur profile and i see only one Mod too lazy to see its size... If most of my mods are too big to be hosted on LL... Then you, clearly, won't see them on my LL profile; they'll be hosted on Nexus, which is where most of them are. (Under a completely different name) 200MB direct uploads on LL limits things to pretty much just plug-in files, or a couple of strap-ons. As I said, linking to your one/goggle drive from your LL post isn't really "hosting" it on LL in the general sense of the phrase. Not to mention you are subject to limits imposed by your drive provider. (People seem to forget that part) P.S. I think you and Kendo should go out together. You two have a lot in common.
blank_v Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 47 minutes ago, MonVert said: If most of my mods are too big to be hosted on LL... Then you, clearly, won't see them on my LL profile; they'll be hosted on Nexus, which is where most of them are. (Under a completely different name) 200MB direct uploads on LL limits things to pretty much just plug-in files, or a couple of strap-ons. As I said, linking to your one/goggle drive from your LL post isn't really "hosting" it on LL in the general sense of the phrase. Not to mention you are subject to limits imposed by your drive provider. (People seem to forget that part) P.S. I think you and Kendo should go out together. You two have a lot in common. Click to make it bigger... and read first few lines of my post... i said that u can use Mod Description to upload Your Mod Files... Mod Description have NO LIMITS... Why Mod Upload have limits but Mod Description is unlimited?... i dont know, ash Kashal... But ok... thats pretty typical for Nexus users... They read like 20% of Mod Description and then they cri with problems... They read only 10% of Post and then answer... Look... unlimited Upload File Size... its old ScreenShot... but im 90% sure that u still can upload any file u want via Description... look at File size ( 1.1 GB ) i just tested LL with something huge... LL Uploaded that with no Error and allowed me to publish Post... so like i said Mr. Nexus Admin... just use Mod Description as Upload field... #LoversLabBugs xDD Are u Nexus Admin by chance?... I'm asking because they too, don't read at all... I'm not sure if they even know how to...
Mr. Otaku Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 51 minutes ago, MonVert said: As I said, linking to your one/goggle drive from your LL post isn't really "hosting" it on LL in the general sense of the phrase. Does it really matter though? If LL is the only way to access the mods uploaded on Google Drive then technically it is hosted on LL. You don't have to do it if you don't want to of course, but it's an acceptable method. 53 minutes ago, MonVert said: Not to mention you are subject to limits imposed by your drive provider. You can use Mediafire though? Or does Mediafire also have imposed limits? I don't know really but i've seen some giant mods hosted on Mediafire and it works very well.
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