[mod] Physical Attributes

[gthu765]

I'm confused so this pairs with, but doesnt replace CBO? and allows for the in game references to how the characters look as well as better overall genetics?

[GDG]

So.. quick question. Can't find a definitive answer: Some of the traits do not have a proper Icon, right? Or am I doing something wrong?

Edit: Oh and another one: Do I have to disable the traits from carnalitas? They seem to overlap sometimes.

Edited December 1, 2023 by GDG

[ukrug1]

On 9/24/2023 at 6:06 PM, bobstone264264 said:

 

If you use both a butt trait and muscle trait then sometimes it will set the butt size to 0. Try using just one and then using debug mode to adjust the other one.

In my case if I use a bust trait and a butt trait as well.

[Makhno79]

Maybe a dumb question, but I used to be able to do an attraction/seduction modifier on body traits by dropping some lines into the Physical Attributes trait files, doesn't seem to be working now. Anyone know a work-around? Seems to work for height/abs, but not tits and dicks.

 

e.g. old version of the mod is like this, and picks up the changes:

 

group = tits_big_good
    level = 1

    physical = yes
    flag = pa_trait

    inherit_chance = 1
    parent_inheritance_sex = male
    inherit_from_real_father = yes
    birth = 0
    random_creation = 0
    attraction_opinion = 20
    seduce_scheme_power_add = 20

    ruler_designer_cost = 0

 

New version is like this but doesn't seem to:

group = tits_big_good
    level = 1

    physical = yes
    flag = pa_trait

    attraction_opinion = 20
    seduce_scheme_power_add = 20

    ruler_designer_cost = 0

 

 

 

 

[small muggle]

is there a way to turn on [change gender presentation] this debug option again?

Found this one in previous pages and really wanna give it a try 

[gthu765]

made some reference charts for the breast size, for anyone modding from the actual file vs loading into PA in debug and altering "current breast size" in game. I did a variety with "close set" (same as archetypal) , Teardrop and bell shape. I feel that gives a good range, side set etc could be somewhat delineated from close set for example.

 

For the archetypal (close set) as a reference the hip size is 38, butt 56 and hip 45. For teardrop reference photo hip 56, butt 25, ht 56. For Bell Shape hip is 22, butt 69 and height of 59.

 

 

[gthu765]

Butt Reference Photos , height is 80, hip 70 (Hip reference next post)

[gthu765]

Ok, hip size references , ht 80, butt 85, waist 65 for all of these, ill do waist next and then be done, hope someone else gets use from these!

 

You'll notice a pattern, on the lower extremes delineation is very mild until about 20 and still pretty unremarkable until about 35 or 40 for any value.

[gthu765]

Waist Reference, ht 80, hip 70, butt 85. Of note waist has a maximum of 100 (scale 0 to 100) , I've also included a reference photo here where I kept height at 80, set weight to maximum in ruler designer and then zeroed out butt hip and waist, you'll see that weight can have a massive effect regardless of these other setting (also weight cannot be modified directly in game by PA debug premade settings, although if you're in debug obviously you could take that route). 

 

All the previous reference photos were done with the default weight used in ruler designer.

You would see similar effects maximizing setting with max weight or min/ max butt / breast etc settings with weight at zero. The takeaway here is that you can override what your trying to do or get slightly more extreme outcomes using the weight metric.

 

[Yapmak]

Dear author, this is a localized korean translation. Please apply it at the next patch.

korean.zip

[ChaosRegion]

The latest version of Physical Attributes and/or CBO messed up my current playthrough. Could anyone please upload the previous version of Physical Attributes? I already found one for CBO. Thank you.

[hungarybro2]

This isn't as much a question as it is a suggestion, but I was just wondering if you have considered adding some more editable genes/looks to the debug events? In particular I was hoping to modify areola size and breast type of a character, but it seems these cannot be changed there.

[gthu765]

2 hours ago, hungarybro2 said:

This isn't as much a question as it is a suggestion, but I was just wondering if you have considered adding some more editable genes/looks to the debug events? In particular I was hoping to modify areola size and breast type of a character, but it seems these cannot be changed there.

I second breast "type" , also if the menus in debughad a backout function so you could modify the genes and the "current" variable in one go without having to close out and re enter the menu.

 

We should crowdfund mange a clone / personal assistant

[hbadult]

On 2021/7/17 at AM10点01分, Mange2020 said:

Yeah its not compatible with the Carnalitas traits. My Coetus Anima is a first attempt to make what a person finds attractive subjective. But its admittedly messy, I haven't updated it in so long because I'm kind of struggling to tweak it.

Since I don't use metric measurements its not impossible that there is some conversion issue that I didn't notice. But the breast measurements don't have a metric equivalent, there are seven different systems internationally and so I'm not figuring that out. Its also not as easy to measure so its mostly based on my own estimates, and you can't isolate breast size from height, weight, age, etc. So its mostly an estimate for fun. 

The numbers are based on the measurements I took in the modeling software (its much easier to isolate and measure). But Penis sizes are actually one of the few things we have scientific data on (because penis anxiety is an issue a lot of guys have), 90% of guys are between 10 cm (4 inches) and 16 cm (6.3 inches) but yeah some guys are as small as 5 cm (2 inches) which is the minimum here. Which is smaller than I thought it would be, I suspect most guys add two inches to the size they tell themselves haha. The larger size is more unrealistic I actually fudge the numbers a bit, I measured it out at a little over 11 inches (28 cm) iirc but having a 12 inch penis is like a thing people talk about, so I decided to include up to 12 which is equal to the 30 cm size you see. People with 12 inch dicks exist, its just so rare that it was way above the data in that study I mentioned.

Thank you for this mod, through the past few days of pondering I finally figured it out, with the passage of time in the game I found that it does play a number of changes, but the other ca I'm still not quite sure exactly how it works, whether it has been running, haha, so I will not say on this board, I will say the point is, you can try the AI assistance, find publicly available data of each country's ethnic genes from WHO, all kinds of, yes, from the far east to Scandinavia, from the most basic regional characteristics, height, weight, circumference, cups, bmi, and even the thickness of subcutaneous fat, lactation lactation volume, all from the World Health Organization or the reports of the individual countries, and the ai will organize it for you into a data file, and then you will be able to see what you are looking for. AI will help you organize into a detailed table to present, can help you in the variables and regional characteristics of reference.
PS: Maybe you are already using this method of data collection. So having also seen AIs being debugged correctly, we might want to have some tips when asking questions.
Above, from the translator ..... I hope it's readable.

 

Edited January 5, 2024 by hbadult

[Zero_Zaraki]

I keep losing muscles, I set it to 75 upper and 60 lower but for some reason it keeps dropping and my traits keep changing from hulking to bulky and ripped to chiseled, how to set these attributes?

[itslydiabxtch]

Is there a compatch for More Bookmarks+ ?

[ravensm785]

game version 1.11.4
carnalitas version 2.2

character body overhaul version 1.8.4

physical attributes 1.8.4

 

bust slider when in ruler creator is disabled (for females of course)

 

using irony mod manager v1.25.161

not sure whats going on, only have the 3 mods active for the test

maybe its cause i use irony? it shouldnt cause issues, it just implements a load order for the game

 

let me know if i missed a log file

debug.log error.log gui_warnings.log system.log

Edited February 2, 2024 by ravensm785

[temporary13231]

Hi,

When I give a character specific traits in the customization menu, they get replaced by random ones once the values are seeded. Is this intended?

[MisterGrim]

So to edit character npcs, I gotta load it through debug mode and modify them in barbershop yes?

[turkeyjerkey]

What's the simplest way to disable this mod's changes to weight during pregnancy without breaking anything else?

[csirke128]

13 hours ago, madzohan said:

have this problem -  boobs size 0 and not configurable ... only when PA enabled, any ideas/fixes?

 

I think bust sizes are coming from traits, you should try add the relevant trait (small bust or big bust).

[madzohan]

4 hours ago, csirke128 said:

 

I think bust sizes are coming from traits, you should try add the relevant trait (small bust or big bust).

Ok I see, sr for being noob =))

[Mmkay]

For some reason it seems that the butt-size traits have inverted their values in my files. I've already tried deleting the old mod files + installing fresh ones. But no success so far anyone an idea? Tried Stuff with my mod-order too, but with just CBO, Carnalitas and PA installed I have the exact same issue. (the last screenshot has an character with trait Callipygian selected)

 

EDIT: By reinstalling all three, and running them again the issue has vanished. Now checking if one of my other mods might be the cause.

 

EDIT 2: Issue solved. Seemed to be CBO Animations+ that's causing the issue, and earlier possibly outdated mod-files as well.

Edited February 27, 2024 by Mmkay

[Teber]

hello. i have a problem of traits (your own) not displaying with obfuscate and this mod.

is there a way to fix?

[black1]

added weight description in stomach trait and fixed a bug not initiating height trait. plz consider adding this to urs next release 

actual physical values.txt height_trait_seeding_on_actions.txt PA_stomach_traits_l_english.yml