[SOLVED] Stutter/FPS drop (60fps to 30-40fps) every 10 seconds when wearing a certain type of modded armor (TAWOBA, DX armors,...)

[Guest]

Hi everyone,

 

So I've noticed that some type of armors i'm wearing are causing fps drops. 

I've already read this topic : https://www.loverslab.com/topic/121703-certain-armor-mods-cause-stuttering-cant-figure-out-why/ and it didn't help me to solve it out.

 

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NOTICE :

 

1. Everything works fine when not wearing modded armor (for example DX Druid Armor)/meaning it works fine when naked and when wearing any other armor.

2. Modded armors without physics tend to work fine (for example Ciri Outfit)

3. - THE PROBLEM IS PROBABLY RELATED TO ARMOR PHYSICS - 

 

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INFORMATIONS :

 

• Body type currently using : SE 3BBB Body Amazing (with SMP ON) from CBBE 3BBB Advanced

 

THE STEP I DID WHEN INSTALLING DX DRUID ARMOR

 

1. Installed DX Druid Armor UNP for textures and meshes
2. Installed DX Druid CBBE 3BBB conversion and let the esp mod override the one above.
3. Built Armor in Bodyslide.

 

- Then I noticed the FPS issue. 

 

WHAT I ALREADY TRIED TO DO TO FIX THE PROBLEM (WITHOUT SUCCESS)

 

• I tried to convert the DX DRUID ARMOR to CBBE 3BBB Advanced following the instructions on the mod page.
• Deleted the breast/belly/butt bones thinking the physics could be the problem.
• I optimized textures from the mod

 

None worked. 

 

Any ideas ? I'm struggling to find out what could possibly cause theses FPS Drop... It's happening with a few other  physics armor mods (TAWOBA Bikini, Scarlet Armor, DX armors, Pero Pero Armor, etc).

 

Would appreciate any help because theses armors are really nice and it would be a shame to play without it/but at the same time I cannot afford to play with theses FPS Drops !

 

Thanks !

 

 

 

[Grey Cloud]

9 minutes ago, domran90 said:

1. Everything works fine when not wearing modded armor (for example DX Druid Armor)/meaning it works fine when naked and when wearing any other armor.

I'm assuming that what you mean here is that vanilla armours work fine but some armour mods do not.

 

10 minutes ago, domran90 said:

2. Modded armors without physics tend to work fine (for example Ciri Outfit)

That may be a coincidence.

 

It may be that the problematic armours are missing mipmaps on the textures.  Try running Ordenador or whatever SE uses on the textures for one of the armours mods. Note this is adding mipmaps to the texture files not reducing the texture sizes.

 

[Guest]

40 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

I'm assuming that what you mean here is that vanilla armours work fine but some armour mods do not.

 

Exactly

 

40 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

It may be that the problematic armours are missing mipmaps on the textures.  Try running Ordenador or whatever SE uses on the textures for one of the armours mods. Note this is adding mipmaps to the texture files not reducing the texture sizes.

 

 

I had a try with Cathedral Assets Optimizer and it didn't change anything. problem remains.

 

Note: I noticed that some of DX mods adds first person body view, is there a way to delete it through CK or SSEedit ?

[Grey Cloud]

2 hours ago, domran90 said:

I had a try with Cathedral Assets Optimizer and it didn't change anything. problem remains.

I've never used that prog as I run LE so I don't - does it/can it add mipmaps?

 

 

[LostDremoraDream]

Hey I've run into this issue not too long ago, and I determined it to be (in my build) the physics settings themselves.

Short answer: check your HDT and CBPC configs. Might have to reinstall the base mods. check your presets and how they're affecting NPCs. That's what happened for me.

Long Answer:

For example,

I was running BD's CBBE 3BA Replacer, TAWOBA, and other popular 3BA mods, and occasionally would run into the same issue after about 5 minutes in game.
Since I use Arco's CBBE 3BBB Advanced (3BA) mod, I use both CBPC and HDT to get the toggles working and such. Also for other physics mods, I run both. That's pretty normal I think.
Now my problem only happened when HDT or CBPC had either overrun it's course and triggered on every applicable NPC. I did a little digging and found my HDT and CBPC configs were the culprits.

Specifically, when I had 3BA running on anything other than "improved physics" or "limited physics". Also other HDT/CPBC Presets would fuck with my build. I kept it minimal and kept it stock.

Hope this helps in case this was overlooked in your testing.

[Illana]

What CPU do you have?

[Guest]

20 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

I've never used that prog as I run LE so I don't - does it/can it add mipmaps?

 

 

Yes it does generate mipmaps

[Guest]

12 hours ago, LostDremoraDream said:

Hey I've run into this issue not too long ago, and I determined it to be (in my build) the physics settings themselves.

Short answer: check your HDT and CBPC configs. Might have to reinstall the base mods. check your presets and how they're affecting NPCs. That's what happened for me.

Long Answer:

For example,

I was running BD's CBBE 3BA Replacer, TAWOBA, and other popular 3BA mods, and occasionally would run into the same issue after about 5 minutes in game.
Since I use Arco's CBBE 3BBB Advanced (3BA) mod, I use both CBPC and HDT to get the toggles working and such. Also for other physics mods, I run both. That's pretty normal I think.
Now my problem only happened when HDT or CBPC had either overrun it's course and triggered on every applicable NPC. I did a little digging and found my HDT and CBPC configs were the culprits.

Specifically, when I had 3BA running on anything other than "improved physics" or "limited physics". Also other HDT/CPBC Presets would fuck with my build. I kept it minimal and kept it stock.

Hope this helps in case this was overlooked in your testing.

Might be interesting to try cuz I'm pretty sure that the problem comes from the physics. I'll have a look on this and i'll try to reinstall all my physics mods ! 

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Illana said:

What CPU do you have?

Intel Core i7-9700k 3.60GHz 

with

RTX 2080 

16GB RAM

[anjenthedog]

For what it's worth... SMP enabled garments can enter an unstable mode (or more accurately the SMP control loop acting on a wig or piece of armor/clothing... or breasts...), and that unstable mode can result is tons of lag, which in turn can cause a droop in frame rates.

 

So if I were in your shoes, the first thing I'd try is to issue an SMP reset from console to make sure it's not just SMP acting up, as it will do, due to SMP's inherent stability issues. Not saying it *IS* your issue, but imo it's always a good starting point.

[Grey Cloud]

17 hours ago, LostDremoraDream said:

check your HDT and CBPC configs.

Check them against what?

[Grey Cloud]

5 hours ago, domran90 said:

Yes it does generate mipmaps

Thanks. May prove useful info for the future.

[Guest]

Okay guys I managed to solve the problem !

 

Here's what I've done:

 

First

1. Reinstalled the base physics mods.
2. Started a new game 

Then everything was working perfectly with every outfit. BUT then I started to adjust settings in the MCM for every mods. Afterwards the problem happened again...

So it was obvious. The problem came from a specific mod setting.

 

-----> CURSED LOOT <------

 

Under miscellaneous there is a setting that can adjust the body size depending on the amount of arousal you've got.

When I disabled this option everything was working perfectly fine without any FPS drops or stuttering !