TWO - Total Werewolf Overhaul

[Tex]

1 hour ago, fredsin13 said:

The one used by RCSKSE should be 3.4.0 GROWL

Tried that one, same outcome. (Attached LO etc, Monter lipsync is loaded before all these.)

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[fredsin13]

7 hours ago, Tex said:

Tried that one, same outcome. (Attached LO etc, Monter lipsync is loaded before all these.)

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RCSKSE and it's patch hub should overwriting TWO and GROWL, if it's still error try reinstall RCSKSE patch Hub. Make sure there's none mod overwriting RCSKSE patch hub script 

Edited June 28 by fredsin13

[FrostyTactics]

Do female werewolf animations have some sort of way to work with PPA? I know that the author has posted his documentation on custom races, but I'm not to well versed and I am unsure if female creatures are supported?

[Tex]

10 hours ago, fredsin13 said:

RCSKSE and it's patch hub should overwriting TWO and GROWL, if it's still error try reinstall RCSKSE patch Hub. Make sure there's none mod overwriting RCSKSE patch hub script 

Huh oddly Race Comp SKSE isnt even overwritting growl etc in my case, as in nothing to overwrite, wonder if its version thing.

[fredsin13]

36 minutes ago, Tex said:

Huh oddly Race Comp SKSE isnt even overwritting growl etc in my case, as in nothing to overwrite, wonder if its version thing.

 RCSKSE and it's patch hub should have been overwriting the GROWL and TWO, if there's no overwriting happen then it mean you dont installed the RCSKE patch for GROWL, they have same script for werewolf transformation adter all

Edited June 28 by fredsin13

[kaladrin]

8 hours ago, FrostyTactics said:

Do female werewolf animations have some sort of way to work with PPA? I know that the author has posted his documentation on custom races, but I'm not to well versed and I am unsure if female creatures are supported?

i asked that in ppa a while back:

i myself am not talented enough to do so lol

[Tex]

2 hours ago, fredsin13 said:

 RCSKSE and it's patch hub should have been overwriting the GROWL and TWO, if there's no overwriting happen then it mean you dont installed the RCSKE patch for GROWL, they have same script for werewolf transformation adter all

thats the odd part, its there for growl atleast - 
I'll reinstall, maybe some fuckery happened.

[LordDrakath15226]

Running into the headless problem, how do i fix it?

[fredsin13]

On 6/30/2026 at 2:25 AM, LordDrakath15226 said:

Running into the headless problem, how do i fix it?

Headless werewolf it mean there's another mod that edit werewolf record,

 

Try put werewolves.esp in very bottom load order

[qwqear]

On 6/23/2026 at 9:01 AM, fredsin13 said:

I'm using GROWL, and have no problem with the model other than werewold size that need bit tweaked and there's patch for GROWL for TWO.

 

And for anyone want Diverse Werewolves Collection Patch since the patch from page 50 make my game freeze when near DWC werewolf and make aela freeze too when she transform in underforge.

 

You still need patch from page 50 for the penis mesh or penis will not matching the color of werewolf .

 

you need install patch from this page first

 

Install the patch from page 50

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/159911-two-total-werewolf-overhaul/page/50/#findComment-7279659

 

then install my file, override everything 

 

 

 

Werebears and Diverse Werewolves TWO.rar 31.28 kB · 11 downloads

Female body textures still overlap for some reason after installing your file.

Edited July 8 by qwqear

[Reaper_The6th]

I can't get the physics to work at all. the breasts (and ONLY THE BREASTS) fall to floor. the ass/hips stick in place when the werewolf moves. i've tried placing the mod at the bottom, made sure it won every conflict, tried every version of faster HDT SMP, ran the game in as much of an unmoded state as i could with it (just UI mods, this mod and all requirments, some general bug fixes, and skyrim unbound so i wouldn't be wasting more time). disabling Faster HDT SMP stops the breasts from falling to floor but then they just trail behind/through the werewolf when it moves. I've been trying to figure it out for 2 days straight now and slamming my head into the wall isn't getting me anywhere.

 

here's the pluggin/loadorder list with my bare minimum mods:

https://loadorderlibrary.com/lists/reaper-the6th-7-9-26

 

any help is appreciated.

[alphafr]

17 hours ago, Reaper_The6th said:

I can't get the physics to work at all. the breasts (and ONLY THE BREASTS) fall to floor. the ass/hips stick in place when the werewolf moves. i've tried placing the mod at the bottom, made sure it won every conflict, tried every version of faster HDT SMP, ran the game in as much of an unmoded state as i could with it (just UI mods, this mod and all requirments, some general bug fixes, and skyrim unbound so i wouldn't be wasting more time). disabling Faster HDT SMP stops the breasts from falling to floor but then they just trail behind/through the werewolf when it moves. I've been trying to figure it out for 2 days straight now and slamming my head into the wall isn't getting me anywhere.

 

here's the pluggin/loadorder list with my bare minimum mods:

https://loadorderlibrary.com/lists/reaper-the6th-7-9-26

 

any help is appreciated.

I can't see any of the werewolve.esp from TWO anywhere in your posted plugin list

[Reaper_The6th]

On 7/10/2026 at 9:58 AM, alphafr said:

I can't see any of the werewolve.esp from TWO anywhere in your posted plugin list

just double checked it and its showing up in the file on my computer. no idea why it isn't in the file i uploaded. It's at the very very bottom of the list.

 

fixed list here:

https://loadorderlibrary.com/lists/reaper-the6th-7-9-26-fixed

[alphafr]

22 hours ago, Reaper_The6th said:

just double checked it and its showing up in the file on my computer. no idea why it isn't in the file i uploaded. It's at the very very bottom of the list.

 

fixed list here:

https://loadorderlibrary.com/lists/reaper-the6th-7-9-26-fixed

If you are on MO2 can I see the left panel too? overwrite there can also mess up the install

[Reaper_The6th]

5 hours ago, alphafr said:

If you are on MO2 can I see the left panel too? overwrite there can also mess up the install

 

i'm on vortex. and i was messing around and somehow got it to work. I have zero clue what i did. I downgraded fsmp from 4.0.1 to 3.5.0 again because the game would ctd as soon as i tried loading or creating a save file (the crash log kept saying smpfixes.dll was missing, but the only mod i could find with it was SMP fixes which doesn't work with 4.0+).

 

3.5.0 works but i was then running into a problem were the werewolf would cause crashes as soon as it was present in the cell. could not figure out what was actually causing it. so i said fuck it (because i've been plugging away at it for the last 7 hours straight as of writing this) and tried "restore save game plugins" in the save game menu in vortex.

 

It restored everything except the plugins from beyond skyrim- bruma and undeath. but those were disabled when i first posted on here. i tried updating all my mods, didn't seem like it helped any of the problems though (because what had to be updated wasn't stuff related to this mod or its requirments). the only other thing i could think of was that it wasn't winning a conflict that i didn't catch before and i ended up fixing it while messing around.

 

here's my full load order/plugin list (ignore the few bruma patches)

https://loadorderlibrary.com/lists/reaper-the6th-load-order-7-13-26

[alphafr]

Well plugin load order wise there seems to be no issue, maybe HCOS.esp missing but that's a facial animation thing if I am not wrong

 

Afraid I can't really help you any further

 

Never used vortex so can't tell if what works on MO2 does on Vortex

 

I can only think of 2 avenues that you already took a shot at

 

-Skeleton mod conflict (TWO doesn't like loosing any)

 

-Some sort of FSMP conflict

 

 

 

I you haven't already try to search my comments and follow the discussion on here regarding similar issue, maybe you get some extra insights I have forgotten or someone else brought up

 

[kaladrin]

On 7/13/2026 at 3:49 PM, Reaper_The6th said:

 

i'm on vortex. and i was messing around and somehow got it to work. I have zero clue what i did. I downgraded fsmp from 4.0.1 to 3.5.0 again because the game would ctd as soon as i tried loading or creating a save file (the crash log kept saying smpfixes.dll was missing, but

 

he has HornyCreatures.esp, which is hcos. unless there is a TWO patch for manbeast that might be your problem, ive never used manbeast so i do not know if there is a patch like there is for growl

also on page 53 fredsin13 posted some fixes

[Reaper_The6th]

11 hours ago, kaladrin said:

he has HornyCreatures.esp, which is hcos. unless there is a TWO patch for manbeast that might be your problem, ive never used manbeast so i do not know if there is a patch like there is for growl

also on page 53 fredsin13 posted some fixes

 

manbeast doesn't effect enough to need a patch (just claw speed). not meshes, animations, textures, skeleton, etc. so just just loading werewolves.esp at the very end is enough. (just have to make sure it's actually at the very end. vortex loves fucking up the order for no reason sometimes)

[fredsin13]

On 7/16/2026 at 6:28 AM, Reaper_The6th said:

 

manbeast doesn't effect enough to need a patch (just claw speed). not meshes, animations, textures, skeleton, etc. so just just loading werewolves.esp at the very end is enough. (just have to make sure it's actually at the very end. vortex loves fucking up the order for no reason sometimes)

Breast fall and wonky physic it's always because skeleton, make sure there's none override werewolf skeleton from TWO not even ABC or MNC, Animated Beast Cock/More Nasty Critter

[Manchitas]

Hello there! I'm having a little problem. The mod works fine and it is great. But i'm playing with Baka's ABC and in the latest version of ABC werewolves have bigger balls, but having TWO and sexlab werewolf redux installed overwrite it and balls are always small. No matter the load order, i tried to put ABC on the very top of the load order and in the bottom of the plugin list, it still happening although ABC is overwritting everything. If someone have any idea, it will be very welcome uwu

[Skooma_bodyshots]

Are there any vr players that have figured out a way to use this on the werewolf npcs and not have it break the mod werewolf body for vr? 

I don't understand why it does considering WWBVR has it's own packaged skeleton but it seems having any non default werewolf skeletons anywhere just breaks that mod.