CTD apon entering sleeping giant inn

Degarron · October 16, 2020

Hey running a mega modded skyrim and I have filtered my way through multiple issues trying to get this to work so far as I know this is the last one I gotta fix
I'm hopping ya'll can help me solve this with out having to use the trial and error method

Here's my load order

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 HoovesStepset.esm
7 7 SexLab.esm
8 8 Devious Devices - Assets.esm
9 9 CreatureFramework.esm
10 a hdtHighHeel.esm
11 b Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
12 c BBLuxurySuite.esm
13 d ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
14 e CompanionArissa.esm
15 f RaceCompatibility.esm
16 10 ApachiiHair.esm
17 11 Silverpeak Lodge.esp
18 12 GeneralStores.esm
19 13 SexLabAroused.esm
20 14 HighResTexturePack01.esp
21 15 HighResTexturePack02.esp
22 16 HighResTexturePack03.esp
23 17 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
24 18 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
25 19 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
26 1a Chak Chak Follower.esp
27 1b FollowerAsCompforFllrMods.esp
28 1c voidLetsGetNaked.esp
29 1d NIOVHH.esp
30 1e DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp
31 1f Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp
32 20 DreamBurrowsRegalHuntsmanArmor.esp
33 21 Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp
34 22 DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp
35 23 AlynShirArmor.esp
36 24 EdhildilsWitchDoctor.esp
37 25 Sithis Armour.esp
38 26 HentaiSuccubusArmor.esp
39 27 comvex-hmpriestess.esp
40 28 Elvenia.esp
41 29 Gatti12Jewelry.esp
42 2a Ranger Outfit.esp
43 2b KCEIvoryHunter.esp
44 2c selobl_Diano.esp
45 2d selobl_DarkLillith.esp
46 2e Inferno Knight Arms Set.esp
47 2f wgoulart_Ifrit.esp
48 30 wgoulart_shiva.esp
49 31 NGEC.esp
50 32 Celes Tarot Outfit Cloth UNP.esp
51 33 Cassandra Apocrypha Robes UNP LE.esp
52 34 FallFromGrace.esp
53 35 Demon Armor UNP LE.esp
54 36 12FemaleBrows.esp
55 37 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
56 38 SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
57 39 SexLabMatchMaker.esp
58 3a SexualPersuasion.esp
59 3b SexLabDefeat.esp
60 3c HugMe.esp
61 3d DogmaAnimSLAL.esp
62 3e SLALAnimObj.esp
63 3f HentaiCreatures.esp
64 40 SLAL_K4Anims.esp
65 41 LewdMarks.esp
66 42 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
67 43 SexLabTools.esp
68 44 FNIS.esp
69 45 QuickStart3_NoHelmet.esp
70 46 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
71 47 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
72 48 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp
73 49 Whitestone Spire 1.0.esp
74 4a Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp
75 4b 3DNPC.esp
76 4c AZ_JemimaFollower.esp
77 4d SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
78 4e RealisticWaterTwo.esp
79 4f SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp
80 50 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
81 51 CastleGrey.esp
82 52 AnnaNPCs.esp
83 53 MortumCastle.esp
84 54 AnnaNPCs-WhiteWaterInn-3.0.4.esp
85 55 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
86 56 MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp
87 57 AuroraFollower.esp
88 58 RiverwoodSleepingGiantInnUpgraded.esp
89 59 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
90 5a AnnaNPCs-AndunielsMeadery.esp
91 5b SexLab_Solutions.esp
92 5c AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
93 5d Inconsequential NPCs.esp
94 5e Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
95 5f Silverpeak Lodge - Respawns.esp
96 60 zMirai.esp
97 61 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
98 62 Cloaks.esp
99 63 Run For Your Lives.esp
100 64 MistySkye.esp
101 65 Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim City Edition - Merged.esp
102 66 gonkishvampdens.esp
103 67 Immersive Patrols II.esp
104 68 Alto Dwarven Follower.esp
105 69 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
106 6a CerwidenCompanion.esp
107 6b The Seven Wonders of Leyenda.esp
108 6c BlackRose.esp
109 6d SexLab Romance.esp
110 6e HG_Lilitha.esp
111 6f Ecluse Follower.esp
112 70 Esmeralda.esp
113 71 Feirin1.esp
114 72 Luna_GoV.esp
115 73 Maddalena.esp
116 74 SNMorannon.esp
117 75 Sara.esp
118 76 Sabrina.esp
119 77 Silvan_Armor.esp
120 78 SofiaFollower.esp
121 79 EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp
122 7a FollowerSha.esp
123 7b Shandris.esp
124 7c Magnolia Follower.esp
125 7d Tembtra Thief Armor.esp
126 7e GDZZJJDH.esp
127 7f Marriable Serana.esp
128 80 Draconic Bloodline.esp
129 81 Witch Elf Armour.esp
130 82 AncientFalmer.esp
131 83 Volkihar Knight.esp
132 84 Crimson Blood Armor.esp
133 85 DX Succubus Armor.esp
134 86 DX Necromancer Robes.esp
135 87 Stella Mithril Armor UNP LE.esp
136 88 Celes Mercy Armor UNP LE.esp
137 89 Inafollower.esp
138 8a MoreNastyCritters.esp
139 8b SnaplegCaveSprigganCompanion.esp
140 8c Better Vampires.esp
141 8d DeadlyMutilation.esp
142 8e Hearthfire Cheat Chests.esp
143 8f Wynter.esp
144 90 CaranthirTowerReborn.esp
145 91 RayeksEnd.esp
146 92 RavenCastle.esp
147 93 Ursine Armour.esp
148 94 Follower Neisa.esp
149 95 Yashira.esp
150 96 Celes Rogue Armor UNP LE.esp
151 97 Northern Priestess - EX.esp
152 98 Dragon Lilly.esp
153 99 SexLab Pheromones.esp
154 9a The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
155 9b DarkwaterDen.esp
156 9c Vampirelordroyal.esp
157 9d EdhildilsTempleofMephala.esp
158 9e WerewolfMastery.esp
159 9f Shindara.esp
160 a0 ShindaraHeelsOutfit.esp
161 a1 Apex_Khajiit.esp
162 a2 SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp
163 a3 LeijonaFollower.esp
164 a4 Dezicrah.esp
165 a5 BDIC.esp
166 a6 Werewolves.esp
167 a7 Animal_SOS.esp
168 a8 AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp
169 a9 Nessa Follower.esp
170 aa KokoroFollower.esp
171 ab Meena Follower.esp
172 ac CaesiaFollower.esp
173 ad Witch Of The Wild.esp
174 ae Cassandra Frost Witch.esp
175 af Unique Uniques.esp
176 b0 RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
177 b1 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
178 b2 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
179 b3 Animated Dragon Wings.esp
180 b4 UnreadBooksGlow.esp
181 b5 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
182 b6 Convenient Horses.esp
183 b7 Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp
184 b8 InigoPerkPointGiver.esp
185 b9 Skill Config.esp
186 ba SkyUI.esp
187 bb RaceMenu.esp
188 bc RaceMenuPlugin.esp
189 bd UIExtensions.esp
190 be SLAnimLoader.esp
191 bf AMatterOfTime.esp
192 c0 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
193 c1 BVFE_Serana.esp
194 c2 The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
195 c3 VL No AoE Drain.esp
196 c4 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
197 c5 Farah.esp
198 c6 XCEMwW.esp
199 c7 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
200 c8 Predator Vision.esp
201 c9 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
202 ca BVandRoyalBloodline_Patch.esp
203 cb Marriable Serana HF.esp
204 cc Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
205 cd Tales_of_Lycanthropy.esp
206 ce Davjes_UNPBSorceressArmorHHS.esp
207 cf CraftingSupplies_AIO_ALL.esp
208 d0 Nerida.esp
209 d1 DAWN 1.esp
210 d2 Kamira.esp
211 d3 Elie.esp
212 d4 Jinxxed Followers - Pyrrha Nikos.esp
213 d5 Lilium_Companion.esp
214 d6 Eureka Spriggan Follower.esp
215 d7 Jinxxed Followers - Mila Rose.esp
216 d8 Jinxxed Followers - Harribel.esp
217 d9 Jinxxed Followers - Hinata Hyuga.esp
218 da Jinxxed Followers - Bowsette.esp
219 db Isabeau Ladyhawke.esp
220 dc Moolgogi Follower Dragon.esp
221 dd DividedByThe9s_LiantSpiderFollower.esp
222 de My Home Is Your Home.esp
223 df Mirielle Follower.esp
224 e0 Jinxxed Followers - Sansei Muramasa.esp
225 e1 Shiamar.esp
226 e2 Jinxxed Followers - Yoruichi.esp
227 e3 Laima.esp
228 e4 Mintiinon Follower.esp
229 e5 Fachry Starfire the Titan.esp
230 e6 Norae Follower.esp
231 e7 Shard Companion.esp
232 e8 NeridaHeelsOutfit.esp
233 e9 R18pn - Shanoa Armors.esp
234 ea ESO Breton Knight by NewrMind43.esp
235 eb Warhammer Sorceress Robes.esp
236 ec DX Druid Armor.esp
237 ed BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp
238 ee DX Witcher Armor.esp
239 ef Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
240 f0 Shiri.esp
241 f1 Tinkerbell.esp
242 f2 EdhildilsHelgenrogue.esp
243 f3 PAN_Celyria.esp
244 f4 DX Daughter of the Sea.esp
245 f5 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
246 f6 SOSRaceMenu.esp
247 f7 XPMSE.esp

Degarron · October 16, 2020

oh yeah I forgot to mention I am using Loot to sort my load order

***Psalam*** · October 16, 2020

27 minutes ago, Degarron said:

the last one I gotta fix

CTD in a specific location is almost always a bad mesh/texture added by a mod. No one knows your load order like you do. What mods do you have that impact the Sleeping Giant Inn? Are any of your added followers starting there perchance? Do you have a mod that would impact how Delphine would look? Those are the mods that should be your short list to remove.

*travelmedic* · October 16, 2020

88/58 RiverwoodSleepingGiantUpgraded is where I would start. Like @Psalam suggested, probably a bad mesh.

If it's not the Inn upgrade mod, what mods are adding followers into the Sleeping Giant?

Grey Cloud · October 17, 2020

What's already been said plus it could also be NPCs added by a mod such as 3DNPC.

Can you coc into the Giant?

Degarron · November 8, 2020

Hey sorry I haven't checked on this in a long time RL got busy currenly doing testing now I've removed the Inn mod just to be safe didn't like it much anyway and I'm about to see if anything is affecting Delphine or creating a bad mesh or texture thanks for your help and patience

Degarron · November 8, 2020

ok I don't think I have anything that could be changing Delphine's appearance but I have some castle mods that change bookcases and other furniture could that be it

Degarron · November 8, 2020

also COCing into the inn does not work either

Degarron · November 8, 2020

I have a ton of companion mods some of them do set the companions into the inn I'll check those now

Heroine HoneyCrotch · November 8, 2020

Block 0 Sunblock 9, that's sleeping giant. Use xedit, load all mods and look in skyrim.esm. this will show you all mods touching that cell. Problem doesn't have to be in something that references cell,temper exceptions.

I would also try moving 3DNPC lower in LO,

Degarron · November 10, 2020

found a fix don't know how it fixed it but it did I started using ENB boost and the problem Vanished

***Psalam*** · November 10, 2020

4 hours ago, Degarron said:

found a fix don't know how it fixed it but it did I started using ENB boost and the problem Vanished

Congratulations

Degarron · November 10, 2020

while were on the subject of fixing stuff and mysteries I've had a huge problem with Anna NPCs mod for a while they keep getting the gray face bug and I can't stand it I love these followers but I can't use them if there all glitched out like that the only one who seems unaffected is Nadina any Idea if something in my load order could be causing this or how I could fix it

***Psalam*** · November 10, 2020

3 hours ago, Degarron said:

while were on the subject of fixing stuff and mysteries I've had a huge problem with Anna NPCs mod for a while they keep getting the gray face bug and I can't stand it I love these followers but I can't use them if there all glitched out like that the only one who seems unaffected is Nadina any Idea if something in my load order could be causing this or how I could fix it

The classic gray face bug is caused by the mod failing to export data. It is fixed by:

1) Open the CK making the mod in question your active file

2) Go the Actors list and choose the ones with gray face (do NOT open the actor box just highlight the name-if you accidentally do open the box simply close it and just highlight the name)

3) hit Ctrl+F4 and wait (if you do this one actor at a time - which I recommend - it will still take several seconds before you get a confirmation notice)

4) after doing this with all desired actors, SAVE THE ESP and exit the CK

Degarron · November 11, 2020

13 hours ago, Psalam said:

The classic gray face bug is caused by the mod failing to export data. It is fixed by:

1) Open the CK making the mod in question your active file

2) Go the Actors list and choose the ones with gray face (do NOT open the actor box just highlight the name-if you accidentally do open the box simply close it and just highlight the name)

3) hit Ctrl+F4 and wait (if you do this one actor at a time - which I recommend - it will still take several seconds before you get a confirmation notice)

4) after doing this with all desired actors, SAVE THE ESP and exit the CK

Thanks I'll give that a try

Degarron · November 23, 2020

tried the fix ... it didn't work moved to skyrim SE rebuilt my mod list and the problem vanished ... along with a million others 300 mods and I got it stable in like 2 hours WTF

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