zippy57 Posted April 26, 2013 Author Posted April 26, 2013 Well, we had a new user come in and write a very intelligent review of the mods as they stood at the time in which it was noted that there were several things that could be uncomfortable for some users. Since it was easy to do and the request came from someone who didn't come in and start demanding that we change things to accommodate them, I figured it wouldn't be a bad idea to allow players the option of removing them.
saladboy21 Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 I think making things more inclusive is a good thing. No one is taking options away, but we can better customize them as needed. So thanks for taking the time and the effort with that.
ChancellorKremlin Posted April 27, 2013 Posted April 27, 2013 Well, we had a new user come in and write a very intelligent review of the mods as they stood at the time in which it was noted that there were several things that could be uncomfortable for some users. Since it was easy to do and the request came from someone who didn't come in and start demanding that we change things to accommodate them, I figured it wouldn't be a bad idea to allow players the option of removing them. Oh yes, that was indeed a very good review, we should have more of those! I think your solution is indeed the best option because it allows users the freedom to chose and is the "best of both worlds" so to speak - thanks for the effort.
Dapper Dan Pomade Posted April 28, 2013 Posted April 28, 2013 I have a question...is there supposed to be a special dialog option for offering yourself to Khans? All I get is the regular SmallerTalk thing, and I'm pretty sure I've banged more than ten of them using that without the quest moving forward.
zippy57 Posted April 28, 2013 Author Posted April 28, 2013 First, the basic questions. Did you talk to Regis? Are you wearing the outfit? If yes to both, the dialogue option is "I'm trying to join the Khans, and I need your help getting fucked in."
t3589 Posted April 28, 2013 Posted April 28, 2013 First, the basic questions. Did you talk to Regis? Are you wearing the outfit? If yes to both, the dialogue option is "I'm trying to join the Khans, and I need your help getting fucked in." I went through the same deal until I paid attention to the text that says 'You must approach them'. Then everything went to plan.
ChancellorKremlin Posted April 28, 2013 Posted April 28, 2013 For that particular scenario it is better to have the Khans' Tryout MCM toggle down to zero, because they frequently approach you instead, and you don't get that option if they do so. Given that once they talk to you, you have to wait a full 24hrs before you can approach them and trigger the initiation dialogue, and that there are like... 3-4 of them wandering around maybe, its quite hard to accomplish. So best turn the toggle off just for that part of the quest.
Dapper Dan Pomade Posted April 28, 2013 Posted April 28, 2013 Okay, yeah...I don't get that dialog option at all. When I try to approach someone, they'll just say a line of dialog like NPCs without conversation options do, then they come back with the SmallerTalk thing. I'll try turning off Khan approach and going back to see if it's different.
ChancellorKremlin Posted April 28, 2013 Posted April 28, 2013 If they've already approached you through the Khans approach toggle, you won't have that dialogue option with them for 24 hours, even if you approach them yourself in that meantime. Do make sure you've actually started the quest properly, too.
Dapper Dan Pomade Posted April 28, 2013 Posted April 28, 2013 If by properly you mean talk to Regis and get the outfit, then yeah, of course I did. So Update: I turned off SmallerTalk and lowered the approach rate to zero, then went back. I can get the dialog option now, but only with named Great Khans who already have dialog like Regis, Papa Khan, and Jack. I'll play around with it a little, see if the approach thing is the trick. Worst case, maybe I can just cycle through them and finish the quest that way.
ChancellorKremlin Posted April 28, 2013 Posted April 28, 2013 You're doing it right then. Wait 24 hours and try with the "generic Khans" and see what happens. I do tend to find that the Khan Canyon is severely under-populated. Are there any mods out there that fix that? I'm aware of rePopulated wasteland, but I'm not sure I ever visited that place with it running, so I'm not sure.
Dapper Dan Pomade Posted April 28, 2013 Posted April 28, 2013 Yeah, you were right...it was the waiting that did the trick. Turned SmallerTalk back on and now the generic Great Khans have that option as well. Now I've just got to bang a few more. Thanks for the help! I feel bad for my PC, all that fucking for no benefit. She must be exhausted.
johnmcderp Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 I've got a problem, after working for James Garrett at the Wrangler for one shift, at the next one, I get a message that my PC now knows how to satisfy the john's better, etc etc., but then I get the initial "message" again (the one with the "anyone can fuck, but only the best can make money on their back" line). A few seconds after dismissing the messages later, they reappear again in the same order. They do not stop reappearing until I tell James that I'm finished. Is there anybody else out there getting this issue?
realchulo Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Hi, ran into same problem as johnmcderp.. after updating all of Tryouts required files. The casino people also aren't chasing my pc anymore, no console message. It doesn't happen with an older version of WorkingGirl - that one included in Compilation File 10102012. (attached) And...as i rarely write posts..HUGE thanks to all who contribute to Sexout, makes me play this old game again and again SexoutWorkingGirl.esp
zippy57 Posted April 30, 2013 Author Posted April 30, 2013 Looks like I might have screwed up a condition check that caused the messages to appear constantly. See if the attached file fixes it. SexoutWorkingGirl.esp
realchulo Posted May 1, 2013 Posted May 1, 2013 Hi, a quick feedback, the problem with the repeating messages is gone. But the gamblers are still not approaching - that works with all other tryout plugins though so.. no idea.. Thanks for checking it out!
Destynova99 Posted May 1, 2013 Posted May 1, 2013 Hi, a quick feedback, the problem with the repeating messages is gone. But the gamblers are still not approaching - that works with all other tryout plugins though so.. no idea.. Thanks for checking it out! Try ending your shift, going outside, waiting a few hours, then go back in and try again. Sometimes if the tryout check scripts stop for whatever reason it takes a timeskip in another cell to get them going again. I noticed that one time when I was racking up the shags for the powder gangers when I was enslaved. If I opened up the console the powder ganger checks weren't even happening again even when I switched cells but waiting a few hours and then switching cells restarted them.
johnmcderp Posted May 2, 2013 Posted May 2, 2013 I have another problem: The Legion seems to have trouble with this mod. One would approach my PC then do their thing, afterwards, I expect some more Legion soldiers itching to get their turn. However, what happens instead is that they approach my PC, and once they're in "dialogue range" (you know, the range where the dialogue involving the two parties will pop up), they will just put on an agitated face, and draw their weapon as if they saw an NCR Trooper walk behind my PC. Most of the time however, the Legion will just completely ignore my PC, even with the approach rate set to 100%. Oh, and the NPCs not approaching my character applies to every faction affected by the Tryout mod. I turned the Fiends and Legion levels up to 100%, yet the Kings and the NCR, who are both set at 50% seem to approach my PC three times as much, and are much more successful. I use BrutalRapers alongside SexoutTryout, could they be in conflict?
Dapper Dan Pomade Posted May 3, 2013 Posted May 3, 2013 Okay, so here's a strange problem...I don't get approached at all by anybody anymore, regardless of the approach chance I've got set. I went into Vault 19, for instance, with Powder Gangers approach rate at 75%, and it worked flawlessly before, but now nobody from any faction approaches me. They walk over, but once they get within a few feet they turn around and walk away. While trying to figure it out, a Powder Ganger walked up to Cass and started fucking her, so I checked the console and saw the message "Player having sex, Cass selected as alternate'. Since I very clearly wasn't having sex, I'm guessing some flag somewhere got wonked up and now I'm listed as unapproachable somehow. Any thoughts?
zippy57 Posted May 3, 2013 Author Posted May 3, 2013 Go start sex using another plugin, like SexoutSex, and see if it starts and if not what error code shows in the console.
Dapper Dan Pomade Posted May 3, 2013 Posted May 3, 2013 I can initiate sex pretty much any other way. In fact, while wearing the NCR Prostitute Outfit I can initiate sex with troopers and everything works fine, but for some reason they won't approach me and initiate it. It's always the same thing, they start walking towards me, then stop about ten feet away like I'm already fucking someone else. Or, like I said, they'll start boning Cass instead, and I get the message in the console 'Player having sex, Cass selected as alternate'. Update: After digging a little further, I've noticed that when I reloaded an earlier save from way back, everything still works as it should. Somewhere along the way something got messed up. I hope there's a quick fix that I can do, because the only other option is losing about ten hours worth of game, because it's been awhile since the approaches have worked like they used to.
Robert T Posted May 3, 2013 Posted May 3, 2013 How exactly do you get enslaved by eddie? I've met him during the first encounter, but do not get enslaved.
Dapper Dan Pomade Posted May 3, 2013 Posted May 3, 2013 Did you resist him, or do what he wants you to?
johnmcderp Posted May 3, 2013 Posted May 3, 2013 How exactly do you get enslaved by eddie? I've met him during the first encounter, but do not get enslaved. I've been wondering about that as well. Tried submitting to him, he just screws my PC two times then moves away, talking to him again gives the option to proceed into dealing with Chavez. Tried to resist and he only raped my PC, then made Scrambler do the same. Afterwards, talking to him again just gives me the option to proceed with Chavez.
Destynova99 Posted May 3, 2013 Posted May 3, 2013 Is your rapist KO duration longer than your rape victim KO duration? Eddie is supposed to rape you again after Scramber, afterwards he is supposed to ask you if you learned your lesson. Apologizing leads to normal quest progression, insulting him leads to enslavement. *Edit* Zippy, could you please add that rapist KO duration should be longer than the victim's KO duration to the "Setting you must use" section in the first post?
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