nightwing100 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 I'm recently experience a new problem with my Skyrim (Oldrim) on my new computer (Win10 GTX1660 Super), when loading my save or using coc qasmoke, the game seems to has a chance (30%) to get infinite loading screen, I install Skyrim on my SSD so when the game is successfully load it took less than 30 seconds, but when it stuck it stay stuck. All my mods and SKSE plugins are the same as I installed on my last computer (Win7 with GTX950) and it works fine, I'm not sure what's causing this, I had crash fix, plugin preloader, CTD fix and ENBoost(just boost, no ENB) installed, my load order are also the same as before which is already sorted by LOOT so I don't believe this is cause by load order , I even had Safety Load installed (which is no longer needed since I had Crash Fix) which doesn't help, remove it doesn't solve the problem either. Anyone know how to fix this? Update: Seems like it's because of outdated ENBoost, remove it seems to fix the problem.
Tlam99 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 Ctrl+alt+del to get desktop and try with explorer if you open the usb drive.
nightwing100 Posted October 6, 2020 Author Posted October 6, 2020 19 minutes ago, T-lam said: Ctrl+alt+del to get desktop and try with explorer if you open the usb drive. No I meant actually prevent infinite loading screen, I use OneTweak with it and can exist the game easily, but that's not the answer I'm looking for.
kodamant Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 this should do the trick, worked for me https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/46465/
Grey Cloud Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, kodamant said: this should do the trick, worked for me https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/46465/ 6 hours ago, nightwing100 said: I even had Safety Load installed (which is no longer needed since I had Crash Fix) which doesn't help, remove it doesn't solve the problem either. @nightwing100 It may be worth double-checking your settings - inis, ENBoost, CF etc. Also try a new game. It may be something you are carrying which is causing the problem. Try this to stop ILS. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/85443/
kodamant Posted October 7, 2020 Posted October 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: @nightwing100 It may be worth double-checking your settings - inis, ENBoost, CF etc. Also try a new game. It may be something you are carrying which is causing the problem. Try this to stop ILS. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/85443/ shit yea i didnt see that part, i saw infinite loading screen and thought of that mod, also it may be worth downloading and using the one program for enboost that detects the number you should put in for your memory
nightwing100 Posted October 7, 2020 Author Posted October 7, 2020 4 hours ago, kodamant said: this should do the trick, worked for me https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/46465/ 2 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: @nightwing100 It may be worth double-checking your settings - inis, ENBoost, CF etc. Also try a new game. It may be something you are carrying which is causing the problem. Try this to stop ILS. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/85443/ 8 hours ago, nightwing100 said: I'm recently experience a new problem with my Skyrim (Oldrim) on my new computer (Win10 GTX1660 Super), when loading my save or using coc qasmoke, the game seems to has a chance (30%) to get infinite loading screen, I install Skyrim on my SSD so when the game is successfully load it took less than 30 seconds, but when it stuck it stay stuck. All my mods and SKSE plugins are the same as I installed on my last computer (Win7 with GTX950) and it works fine, I'm not sure what's causing this, I had crash fix, plugin preloader, CTD fix and ENBoost(just boost, no ENB) installed, my load order are also the same as before which is already sorted by LOOT so I don't believe this is cause by load order , I even had Safety Load installed (which is no longer needed since I had Crash Fix) which doesn't help, remove it doesn't solve the problem either. Anyone know how to fix this? I already said I have these two installed, also Crash Fix as well https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725/. I also tried using different ENBoost and Skyrim ini settings, but no luck, maybe some sugeestion here? Here's my settings. ENB: Spoiler [PROXY] EnableProxyLibrary=false InitProxyFunctions=true ProxyLibrary=other_d3d9.dll [GLOBAL] UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=true UseDefferedRendering=false ForceFakeVideocard=false IgnoreCreationKit=true [PERFORMANCE] SpeedHack=true EnableOcclusionCulling=true [MULTIHEAD] ForceVideoAdapterIndex=false VideoAdapterIndex=0 [MEMORY] ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true DisableDriverMemoryManager=false DisablePreloadToVRAM=false EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false ReservedMemorySizeMb=256 VideoMemorySizeMb=3968 EnableCompression=false AutodetectVideoMemorySize=true [WINDOW] ForceBorderless=false ForceBorderlessFullscreen=false [ENGINE] ForceAnisotropicFiltering=true MaxAnisotropy=16 EnableVSync=ture AddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=false ForceLodBias=false LodBias=0.0 VSyncSkipNumFrames=0 [LIMITER] WaitBusyRenderer=false EnableFPSLimit=false FPSLimit=60.0 [INPUT] //shift KeyCombination=16 //f12 KeyUseEffect=123 //home KeyFPSLimit=36 //num / 106 KeyShowFPS=106 //print screen KeyScreenshot=44 //enter KeyEditor=13 //f4 KeyFreeVRAM=115 KeyBruteForce=66 KeyDepthOfField=118 [ADAPTIVEQUALITY] Enable=false Quality=1 DesiredFPS=20.0 [ANTIALIASING] EnableEdgeAA=false EnableTemporalAA=false EnableSubPixelAA=false EnableTransparencyAA=false [FIX] FixGameBugs=true FixParallaxBugs=true FixAliasedTextures=true IgnoreLoadingScreen=false IgnoreInventory=true FixSsaoWaterTransparency=true FixSsaoHairTransparency=true FixTintGamma=true RemoveBlur=true FixSubSurfaceScattering=true FixParallaxTerrain=true FixSkyReflection=true FixCursorVisibility=true FixLag=false [THREADS] DataSyncMode=0 PriorityMode=0 EnableUnsafeFixes=false [LONGEXPOSURE] EnableLongExposureMode=false Time=1.0 BlendMax=0.0 Skyrim ini: Spoiler [General] sLanguage=ENGLISH uExterior Cell Buffer=36 [Display] fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0 fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0 fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0 iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048 bAllowScreenshot=1 [Audio] fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0 fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0 fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0 fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0 [Grass] bAllowCreateGrass=1 bAllowLoadGrass=0 [GeneralWarnings] SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information. [Archive] sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa [Combat] fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0 fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0 [Papyrus] fUpdateBudgetMS=1.6 fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=1.6 fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=1000.0 iMaxMemoryPageSize=8192 iMinMemoryPageSize=256 iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=8388608 bEnableLogging=0 bEnableTrace=0 bLoadDebugInformation=0 [Water] bReflectLODObjects=1 bReflectLODLand=1 bReflectSky=1 bReflectLODTrees=1
Boredomisgone Posted October 7, 2020 Posted October 7, 2020 If all else fails, try Bethini: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/69787. It backs up and "fixes" your INI settings so just in case it fucks your game up even more, you can always revert back to the original or just straight up delete them and let Skyrim create anew. Good luck.
Grey Cloud Posted October 7, 2020 Posted October 7, 2020 9 hours ago, nightwing100 said: I also tried using different ENBoost and Skyrim ini settings, but no luck, One doesn't try different settings; one sets them up correctly. ENBoost https://wiki.step-project.com/ENBoost Use Bethini to do your inis. Follow this https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/7521-conglomerate-01-installing-skyrim-stability-fixes-tools/
nightwing100 Posted October 7, 2020 Author Posted October 7, 2020 Tried using Skyrim memory optimizer and try incrase fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS to 2000 in Skyrim.ini, seems to improve it a bit (loading 5 times in a row before getting infinite loading screen), doesn't fix the problem but it get a little bit better, I haven't got the time to play the game for at least two hours straight to see if I will get infinite loading screen, will update this when I'm do.
Grey Cloud Posted October 7, 2020 Posted October 7, 2020 6 hours ago, nightwing100 said: Skyrim memory optimizer and try incrase fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS to 2000 What is Skyrim Memory Optimiser? Do you mean this thing https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/104254?tab=files Why do you think altering a random ini setting is going to help? 2000 is actually the default setting. This is one of the reasons that Bethini was recommended - to set your ini files properly and undo all the useless settings you got from some beanbag on the Internet. You have been given the means of getting a stable game but if you are too lazy to bother with the reading then nobody can help you.
nightwing100 Posted October 8, 2020 Author Posted October 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: What is Skyrim Memory Optimiser? Do you mean this thing https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/104254?tab=files Why do you think altering a random ini setting is going to help? 2000 is actually the default setting. This is one of the reasons that Bethini was recommended - to set your ini files properly and undo all the useless settings you got from some beanbag on the Internet. You have been given the means of getting a stable game but if you are too lazy to bother with the reading then nobody can help you. Yes that one, and fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS is used to give the game more time to load it properly, it is increase when a game many mods and scripts needed more time to load which is something I did years ago already(and it was fine), I already tried the default settings which doesn't help, and the default settings for PC was 500 if I recall it correctly, 2000 is the setting for Xbox360/PS3. I don't want to get into an argument since I was just looking for help, but how can you say I'm too lazy to read when you doesn't even bother to read my first post correctly where I clearly stated I already installed CTD fix. But since you think that will definitely help I suppose I will try it again.
Grey Cloud Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS Default is 2000 (although default set by the game from the Skyrim_default.ini is 500). https://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:Skyrim_INI/Papyrus Bethini has set mine to 2000. 7 hours ago, nightwing100 said: but how can you say I'm too lazy to read when you doesn't even bother to read my first post correctly where I clearly stated I already installed CTD fix. That recommendation was addressed to kodamant. The 2 lines to you should have come below it. Use Bethini and follow the blog I linked. Double-check any setting you change to rule out typos.
nightwing100 Posted October 9, 2020 Author Posted October 9, 2020 17 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS Default is 2000 (although default set by the game from the Skyrim_default.ini is 500). https://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:Skyrim_INI/Papyrus Bethini has set mine to 2000. That recommendation was addressed to kodamant. The 2 lines to you should have come below it. Use Bethini and follow the blog I linked. Double-check any setting you change to rule out typos. Tried Bethini it doesn't help, but I manage to find out what cause the problem. It's the ENBoost, after I remove it I load the game in 10 times streak, no infinite loading screen so far, it's likely because my ENBoost is oudated and doesn't work well on Win10, might consider update if I have performance issue.
Grey Cloud Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 6 hours ago, nightwing100 said: It's the ENBoost, after I remove it I load the game in 10 times streak, no infinite loading screen so far, it's likely because my ENBoost is oudated and doesn't work well on Win10, That is nonsense. Either you did not have it configured properly or it is not the cause of your problem. Your game will CTD more without ENBoost.
woodsman30 Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 So I am wondering why the fix is always to download something? SKSE with the proper memory blocks settings works just fine... Also you have a new computer and a fresh install from Steam? Did your computer optimize the settings for you? On the default launcher you should see a setting tab and it should tell you what you are set at..... ultra-to-potato just because you have a new computer with a better graphics card do not assume you have a lot of vram or ram. ...check your computer specs and adjust the game renderings accordingly. Only after you have done all of this can a more detailed fix be had aka tweaks to mods ect.... just downloading willy-nilly to fix something you don't know what is broke is bad mojo.
Heroine HoneyCrotch Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 when you initially installed enb, a folder was created inside your skyrim folder(steam,steamapps,common,skyrim) named enb series. Take that folder and either delete it or put onto desktop and launch game. launching game will create a new enb series folder for you. I think this screwed me first time i tried to update my enb boost(enb binary) years back. For me, I had updated enb file, and did not delete enb series folder and could not get into game(infinite loading screen)
Andy14 Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 Hardware - especially graphics card changed: If your graphics card is different, you should actually start Skyrim once using the Skyrim Launcher. BUT save the following files beforehand: - Documents / MyGames / Skyrim: Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini - Users (your account) / AppData / Local / Skyrim: Plugins.txt OR if Mod Organizer is used from the corresponding folder Then start Skyrim with Skyrim Launcher directly from Steam. It starts "Detection of the graphics card". Set everything here as required - if ENB is used: Switch off anti-aliasing (also in the driver). Close the launcher (don't start Skyrim). Skyrim has now recreated the Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini. Open your backups and the new files and add any changes that you made previously manually. Then you should be able to start Skyrim with the SKSE Launcher and should work as before. If not, let Steam check the files. And give SKSE Launcher / MO etc. admin rights
nightwing100 Posted October 10, 2020 Author Posted October 10, 2020 21 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: That is nonsense. Either you did not have it configured properly or it is not the cause of your problem. Your game will CTD more without ENBoost. I go on and went to the most unstable area of my game for around 2 hours, it didn't crash, I tried install the latest ENBoost again, infinite loading screen came back. I'm not sure why you insist that your setup will absolutely works for everyone, you don't even know what and how many mods I'm using, I'm been modding Bethesda games for at least 8 years, I'm no expert at it but I know what I'm doing. You're not entirely wrong though, remove ENBoost I can no longer launch Skyrim with so so many of my SKSE plugins installed, as long as it's full screen mode my game will crash when launch, but it's been solved by installed OneTweak, I had no idea what's causing this but my game works fine for now so I guess I will leave it to that.
nightwing100 Posted October 10, 2020 Author Posted October 10, 2020 19 hours ago, Heroine of the Night said: when you initially installed enb, a folder was created inside your skyrim folder(steam,steamapps,common,skyrim) named enb series. Take that folder and either delete it or put onto desktop and launch game. launching game will create a new enb series folder for you. I think this screwed me first time i tried to update my enb boost(enb binary) years back. For me, I had updated enb file, and did not delete enb series folder and could not get into game(infinite loading screen) I didn't know this, thanks for letting me know, the infinite loading screen still persist though. 17 hours ago, Andy14 said: Hardware - especially graphics card changed: If your graphics card is different, you should actually start Skyrim once using the Skyrim Launcher. BUT save the following files beforehand: - Documents / MyGames / Skyrim: Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini - Users (your account) / AppData / Local / Skyrim: Plugins.txt OR if Mod Organizer is used from the corresponding folder Then start Skyrim with Skyrim Launcher directly from Steam. It starts "Detection of the graphics card". Set everything here as required - if ENB is used: Switch off anti-aliasing (also in the driver). Close the launcher (don't start Skyrim). Skyrim has now recreated the Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini. Open your backups and the new files and add any changes that you made previously manually. Then you should be able to start Skyrim with the SKSE Launcher and should work as before. If not, let Steam check the files. And give SKSE Launcher / MO etc. admin rights Did all of that multiple times, even a reinstall, did not fix Enboost, but thanks for trying.
Grey Cloud Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, nightwing100 said: you don't even know what and how many mods I'm using That is largely irrelevant. ENBoost is a memory management tool. ENBoost has and does work for countless others yet is does not work for you. Your Skyrim is no different than any one else's, so what is different? 1 hour ago, nightwing100 said: You're not entirely wrong though, remove ENBoost I can no longer launch Skyrim with so so many of my SKSE plugins installed, Another meaningless statement. What SKSE plug-ins; how many do you have; what has ENBoost got to do with it? 1 hour ago, nightwing100 said: I'm no expert at it but I know what I'm doing. You sure about that? Your trouble-shooting seems to involve downloading a 'quick-fix' from Nexus.
Heroine HoneyCrotch Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 Got a super longshot for you. As long as you DON'T have steam workshop mods, Google " steam clear dl cashe " Can't recall infinite load screen on launch ever being problem this trick works for, maybe. I used this few months back when my CK would not load. Cleared cashe in steam and CK loaded right up. The fact that disabiling enb fixes problem makes me think you don't have installed correctly or bad ini's Curious, did you recently have everything working good? You say you think it's outdated enb which suggest you had things good. Enb binary file was updating so frequent when I got into modding and I used outdated enb for over a long time with no problems. Post your ini settings. Ini experts(not me) might see something.
Heroine HoneyCrotch Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 On 10/8/2020 at 11:02 PM, nightwing100 said: Tried Bethini it doesn't help, but I manage to find out what cause the problem. It's the ENBoost, after I remove it I load the game in 10 times streak, no infinite loading screen so far, it's likely because my ENBoost is oudated and doesn't work well on Win10, might consider update if I have performance issue. Google " Skyrim enb windows 10" I got good hits on this, solution might be there for you
Heroine HoneyCrotch Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 27 minutes ago, Heroine of the Night said: Google " Skyrim enb windows 10" I got good hits on this, solution might be there for you Just did some looking into this for you, win 10 should work fine, most fixes I seen for problem with win 10 was installing different enb binary file(ex. .279 version crashed but .308 worked)
Andy14 Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 If you have problems starting, check the following line in enblocal.ini. ExpandSystemMemoryX64 And also the settings in [Proxy].
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