Logman229 Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 Hello, This is my first time asking for help on this forum before so please bear with me if im missing something. The problem I'm having is a CTD at seemingly random times. It'll work for a little while and then when entering some place, or a small lag it CTDs. Most recently, it was crashing during the giant fight with the Companions outside of Whiterun. Ive been trying to deal with the CTDs but theyre starting to get prohibitive. FNIS and Loot dont seem to be helping. The first spoiler will be my load order, and the second is the Papyrus Log. Any help would be extremely appreciated. Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 CreatureFramework.esm 7 7 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 8 8 SexLab.esm 9 9 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 10 a SexLabAroused.esm 11 b Devious Devices - Integration.esm 12 c daymoyl.esm 13 d Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 14 e hdtHighHeel.esm 15 f HighResTexturePack01.esp 16 10 HighResTexturePack02.esp 17 11 HighResTexturePack03.esp 18 12 zzEstrus.esp 19 13 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp 20 14 FNIS.esp 21 15 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 22 16 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 23 17 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 24 18 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 25 19 RLO - Interiors.esp 26 1a RealisticWaterTwo.esp 27 1b RLO - Exteriors.esp 28 1c HentaiCreatures.esp 29 1d sanguinesDebauchery.esp 30 1e SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp 31 1f SMIM-Merged-All.esp 32 20 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 33 21 Run For Your Lives.esp 34 22 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 35 23 DeviousRegulations.esp 36 24 SexLab_Dialogues.esp 37 25 Skyland Imperial Forts and Dungeons.esp 38 26 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 39 27 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 40 28 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 41 29 FNISSexyMove.esp 42 2a FNISspells.esp 43 2b KS Hairdo's.esp 44 2c RaceMenu.esp 45 2d Real Clouds.esp 46 2e RLO - Effects.esp 47 2f Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 48 30 SkyUI.esp 49 31 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 50 32 UIExtensions.esp 51 33 XPMSE.esp 52 34 DW.esp 53 35 SexLab Romance.esp 54 36 adcSexlife.esp 55 37 SexLabArousedAnimations.esp 56 38 SLAnimLoader.esp 57 39 EstrusChaurus.esp 58 3a Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 59 3b SerialStrip.esp 60 3c SexLabDefeat.esp 61 3d mslDeviousCaptures.esp 62 3e Devious Loading Screens.esp 63 3f dvmb.esp 64 40 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp 65 41 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 66 42 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp 67 43 RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp 68 44 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp 69 45 MoreNastyCritters.esp 70 46 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 71 47 Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp Spoiler [09/11/2020 - 07:15:48PM] Papyrus log opened (PC) [09/11/2020 - 07:15:48PM] Function GetEffectMagnitudes in the empty state on type Ingredient does not exist. Function will not be flagged as callable from tasklets. [09/11/2020 - 07:15:48PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms) [09/11/2020 - 07:15:48PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total) [09/11/2020 - 07:16:01PM] Cannot open store for class "follower3dnpc", missing file? [09/11/2020 - 07:16:02PM] Cannot open store for class "zzEstrusBondageEffectScript", missing file? [09/11/2020 - 07:16:02PM] Cannot open store for class "PF_zzEstrusPackageFollower_010280A8", missing file? [09/11/2020 - 07:16:02PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF_zzEstrusPackageFollower_010280A8 to (120280A8) because their base types do not match [09/11/2020 - 07:16:02PM] Cannot open store for class "PF_zzEstrusPackageDoNothingO_0101C3CF", missing file? [09/11/2020 - 07:16:02PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF_zzEstrusPackageDoNothingO_0101C3CF to (1201C3CF) because their base types do not match [09/11/2020 - 07:16:02PM] Error: Failed to find variable ::Target_var used in _sdmes_armbinder.OnEffectStart() [09/11/2020 - 07:16:02PM] Error: Failed to find variable ::Terminate_var used in _sdmes_armbinder.OnEffectStart() [09/11/2020 - 07:16:02PM] Error: Failed to find variable ::Target_var used in _sdmes_armbinder.OnEffectStart() [09/11/2020 - 07:16:02PM] Error: Failed to find variable ::TweenMenuKey_var used in _sdmes_armbinder.OnEffectStart() [09/11/2020 - 07:16:02PM] Error: Failed to find variable ::TweenMenuKey_var used in _sdmes_armbinder.OnEffectStart() [09/11/2020 - 07:16:02PM] Error: Failed to find variable ::Target_var used in _sdmes_armbinder.OnEffectStart() [09/11/2020 - 07:16:03PM] Cannot open store for class "mzinbathequest", missing file? [09/11/2020 - 07:16:04PM] Cannot open store for class "FXcameraAttachCloudScript", missing file? [09/11/2020 - 07:16:05PM] Cannot open store for class "mf_handler", missing file? [09/11/2020 - 07:16:05PM] Cannot open store for class "_sexistguardsmcmscript", missing file? [09/11/2020 - 07:16:05PM] Cannot open store for class "hentaiPregnancy", missing file? [09/11/2020 - 07:16:05PM] Cannot open store for class "hentaiPregnancyConfig", missing file? [09/11/2020 - 07:16:05PM] Error: Unable to bind script FXcameraAttachCloudScript to (2D008E81) because their base types do not match [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] Error: Property zzEstrusAnimEventCore on script zzestrusinitcorescript attached to alias zzEstrusPlayer on quest zzEstrusQuest (12004888) cannot be bound because alias zzEstrusPlayer on quest zzEstrusQuest (12004888) is not the right type [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] Error: Property zzEstrusSoundCore on script zzestrusinitcorescript attached to alias zzEstrusPlayer on quest zzEstrusQuest (12004888) cannot be bound because alias zzEstrusPlayer on quest zzEstrusQuest (12004888) is not the right type [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] Error: Property zzEstrusQuestCore on script zzestrusinitcorescript attached to alias zzEstrusPlayer on quest zzEstrusQuest (12004888) cannot be bound because alias zzEstrusPlayer on quest zzEstrusQuest (12004888) is not the right type [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] Error: Property _SD_Player on script _sdras_load attached to alias _SDRA_player on quest _SD_controller (1D000D64) cannot be bound because alias _SDRA_player on quest _SD_controller (1D000D64) is not the right type [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property Work1 on script slsw_scum attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property WhoreWR on script slsw_scum attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property WhoreRI on script slsw_scum attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property CWSiegeDefendObj on script slsw_scum attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property Work2 on script slsw_scum attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property WhoreWH on script slsw_scum attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property WorkScript on script slsw_scum attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property WhoreMK on script slsw_scum attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property Work3 on script slsw_scum attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property CWSiegeAttackObj on script slsw_scum attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property WhoreSO on script slsw_scum attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] Error: Property _SLD_MCM_menu_old on script SLD_QST_Reset attached to _SLD_QST_Reset (24034EF8) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (24042C3F) is not the right type [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property SLSW_Brothel on script slsw_mcmconfig attached to SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property SLSW_Lilly on script slsw_mcmconfig attached to SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property SLSW_Twig on script slsw_mcmconfig attached to SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property SLSW_DrugBrothel on script slsw_mcmconfig attached to SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property zzEstrusVictimAlias1004 on script zzestruspkgmgrcorescript attached to zzEstrusPkgMgrQuest (1200840A) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property zzEstrusVictimAlias1001 on script zzestruspkgmgrcorescript attached to zzEstrusPkgMgrQuest (1200840A) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property zzEstrusVictimAlias1003 on script zzestruspkgmgrcorescript attached to zzEstrusPkgMgrQuest (1200840A) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property zzEstrusVictimAlias1002 on script zzestruspkgmgrcorescript attached to zzEstrusPkgMgrQuest (1200840A) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property ZazAPCAO104 on script zadBeltScript attached to Item 1 in container (0005F766) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property ZazAPCAO104 on script zadBeltScript attached to Item 1 in container (00057BD8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property SpeakerHomeRef on script adcsexlifemain attached to adcSexlifeMain (36004338) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property SpeakerHome on script adcsexlifemain attached to adcSexlifeMain (36004338) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property PlayerSpeakerRef on script adcsexlifemain attached to adcSexlifeMain (36004338) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property PlayerSpeakerFemaleRef on script adcsexlifemain attached to adcSexlifeMain (36004338) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] Error: Property Pages on script dvmb_configMenuScript attached to dvmb_configMenu (3F016647) cannot be initialized because the value is the incorrect type [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] warning: Property ZazAPCAO104 on script zadBeltScript attached to Item 3 in container (0002B628) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] VM is freezing... [09/11/2020 - 07:16:18PM] VM is frozen [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] Reverting game... [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF_zzEstrusPackageFollower_010280A8 to (120280A8) because their base types do not match [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] Error: Unable to bind script FXcameraAttachCloudScript to (2D008E81) because their base types do not match [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] Error: Unable to bind script PF_zzEstrusPackageDoNothingO_0101C3CF to (1201C3CF) because their base types do not match [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property zzEstrusVictimAlias1004 on script zzestruspkgmgrcorescript attached to zzEstrusPkgMgrQuest (1200840A) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property zzEstrusVictimAlias1001 on script zzestruspkgmgrcorescript attached to zzEstrusPkgMgrQuest (1200840A) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property zzEstrusVictimAlias1003 on script zzestruspkgmgrcorescript attached to zzEstrusPkgMgrQuest (1200840A) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property zzEstrusVictimAlias1002 on script zzestruspkgmgrcorescript attached to zzEstrusPkgMgrQuest (1200840A) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property ZazAPCAO104 on script zadBeltScript attached to Item 1 in container (00057BD8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property ZazAPCAO104 on script zadBeltScript attached to Item 3 in container (0002B628) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] Error: Property _SLD_MCM_menu_old on script SLD_QST_Reset attached to _SLD_QST_Reset (24034EF8) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (24042C3F) is not the right type [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property SLSW_Brothel on script slsw_mcmconfig attached to SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property SLSW_Lilly on script slsw_mcmconfig attached to SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property SLSW_Twig on script slsw_mcmconfig attached to SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property SLSW_DrugBrothel on script slsw_mcmconfig attached to SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property SpeakerHomeRef on script adcsexlifemain attached to adcSexlifeMain (36004338) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property SpeakerHome on script adcsexlifemain attached to adcSexlifeMain (36004338) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property PlayerSpeakerRef on script adcsexlifemain attached to adcSexlifeMain (36004338) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property PlayerSpeakerFemaleRef on script adcsexlifemain attached to adcSexlifeMain (36004338) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property ZazAPCAO104 on script zadBeltScript attached to Item 1 in container (0005F766) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property Work1 on script slsw_scum attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property WhoreWR on script slsw_scum attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property WhoreRI on script slsw_scum attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property CWSiegeDefendObj on script slsw_scum attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property Work2 on script slsw_scum attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property WhoreWH on script slsw_scum attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property WorkScript on script slsw_scum attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property WhoreMK on script slsw_scum attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property Work3 on script slsw_scum attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property CWSiegeAttackObj on script slsw_scum attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] warning: Property WhoreSO on script slsw_scum attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest SLSW (1E002863) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [09/11/2020 - 07:16:19PM] Error: Property Pages on script dvmb_configMenuScript attached to dvmb_configMenu (3F016647) cannot be initialized because the value is the incorrect type [09/11/2020 - 07:16:21PM] Error: Unable to bind script FXcameraAttachCloudScript to (2D008E81) because their base types do not match
Dodzh Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 i see lots of error with estrus but that dont mean is what causing your ctd. id suggest using "Loot" to see you see any major warning also if you have removed any mods recently without proper uninstall something like FallrimTools to make sure that particular mod dont have any extra things. fyi all this things can break your save if you dont know what you doing so make sure you have backups of saves as well as current load orders
Oldwolf58 Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 Turn off all your auto saves in settings, the only auto save I use is on rest. Skyrim and Fallout 4, both use the same engine and both are notorious for crashing due to auto save. Also make sure that god-rays are OFF in your video settings because that will also cause unexpected crashes. Your load seems light enough that you shouldn't have constant crashes but be aware that the game engine for skyrim does tend to choke on its own now and then for no good reason and ctd. Hope this helps.
Logman229 Posted September 12, 2020 Author Posted September 12, 2020 Thanks for the help, Ill turn off that stuff in the setting and I ran ReSaver from Fallrim tools just to be sure.
Just Don't Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Logman229 said: FNIS and Loot dont seem to be helping. What do you expect from these tools? FNIS only warns about internal errors (bad install, file path issues, etc.) or incompatible animations/behavior files. LOOT will give you some messages about mod X needing patch Y or being careful with using mod A and B together. Neither of them will tell you why your game is crashing or will check every single reason for your game to crash and tell you beforehand. I'd check the MNC install guide and pay special attention to the recommended loadorder and all the other mods you must install. I see some esp in a different order (like hentai creatures before the MNC.esp or the Creature Framework.esp before Sexlab.esm) and esp that aren't mentioned at all in the guide (like sexlab nude creatures/DB/DG).
Logman229 Posted September 12, 2020 Author Posted September 12, 2020 Im going to try a clean wipe and reinstall everything. Thank you all for your help and Ill let you know if it worked.
Grey Cloud Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Logman229 said: Im going to try a clean wipe and reinstall everything And make the same mistakes. If you are going to start again, try following this https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/7521-conglomerate-01-installing-skyrim-stability-fixes-tools/ If you want to try without reinstalling everything then try these Crash fixeshttps://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725/ SKSE Plugin Preloaderhttps://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75795/? ENBoost (If you are using an ENB preset then you should already have this but it can be used without a preset).https://wiki.step-project.com/ENBoost Bethini (This will set your Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini files)https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/69787 Load Game CTD Fix (Stops Infinite Loading Screen (ILS)https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/85443/ The above tools will sort out your memory management and stop 99% of CTDs. And, as has already been said, sort out MNC and SLNC https://www.loverslab.com/topic/78746-more-nasty-critters-slal-edition/ 6 hours ago, Oldwolf58 said: both are notorious for crashing due to auto save. Also make sure that god-rays are OFF in your video settings because that will also cause unexpected crashes. I can't speak for FO but as far as Skyrim is concerned you are talking absolute rubbish.
Oldwolf58 Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: I can't speak for FO but as far as Skyrim is concerned you are talking absolute rubbish. No I'm NOT talking rubbish, I've been playing these games since they were first released and have been and in Electronics and the computer industry since 1980. Nvidia and ATI/AMD have numerous reports and fix threads that tell of the Godray problem and their own tech's have recommended turning godrays off. The auto save bug is a known bug in both Skyrim and Fallout 4 so don't start talking down to someone unless you have your facts straight. Bethesda's response to Auto saves Nvidia's response to Godrays
Tlam99 Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 10 hours ago, Logman229 said: 22 16 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 23 17 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 24 18 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp is no more needed/outdated might be the problem
Grey Cloud Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Oldwolf58 said: No I'm NOT talking rubbish, I've been playing these games since they were first released and have been and in Electronics and the computer industry since 1980. Nvidia and ATI/AMD have numerous reports and fix threads that tell of the Godray problem and their own tech's have recommended turning godrays off. The auto save bug is a known bug in both Skyrim and Fallout 4 so don't start talking down to someone unless you have your facts straight. Bethesda's response to Auto saves Nvidia's response to Godrays The first link is just a load of arse-covering by Bethesda, there is nothing technical there. The second link is one post which doesn't say anything technical either. I couldn't see a date on either of them. The autosave bug may well have been a thing way back then but how many reports do you see of it now? Explain how Bethesda's implementation of autosaves is flawed and how it corrupts one's save.
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