Stuck in Third person and cant attack

[Torsten Torsten]

So ive "finished" modding my skyrim se today and tested if everythning works fine. But after a sexlab animation im stuck in third person and cant attack. The first time this happend saving and reloading the game worked... but now im stuck and the game is somewhat unplayable. I can move and i can interact whit npcs. But i can neither attack or change to first person.

 

Ill guess i make a backup save before and hope it works

 

[Psalam]

14 minutes ago, Torsten Torsten said:

So ive "finished" modding my skyrim se today and tested if everythning works fine. But after a sexlab animation im stuck in third person and cant attack. The first time this happend saving and reloading the game worked... but now im stuck and the game is somewhat unplayable. I can move and i can interact whit npcs. But i can neither attack or change to first person.

 

Ill guess i make a backup save before and hope it works

 

This is a known issue. What works best is to get into another animation. You don't have to have sex. You can use the forge, the grindstone, the enchanter table, etc. In fact, I've found that the cooking pot appears to work best of all. Remember, you don't have to have any items or make anything - you simply have to activate it and then deactivate it. Good luck.

[worik]

51 minutes ago, Psalam said:

I've found that the cooking pot appears to work best of all.

I can confirm this.

 

The one thing, that I still haven't found out is if there is a sequence of console commands that could reliably achieve the same

[Psalam]

4 minutes ago, worik said:

I can confirm this.

 

The one thing, that I still haven't found out is if there is a sequence of console commands that could reliably achieve the same

If you find one let me know because I haven't found it yet.

[Torsten Torsten]

I will try it out nextime i play skyrim if the bug appears. I will still make a backup before just to make shure i got a save that works.

At least (i hope so) it wasnt a modding mistake of mine.

Ty for the help.

[worik]

28 minutes ago, Psalam said:

If you find one let me know because I haven't found it yet.

Until now, all ideas have failed.

I thought it could work with the camera commands, but it ddn't.

 

It's even carried over through a save-exit-restart-load cycle.

[anjenthedog]

Yeah, I haven't found a console fix either. It sucks when you're far away from a crafting station, especially if stuck in a dungeon. 

engaging in sex again can sometimes fix it too, but crafting stations work best. Smithing, potions, arcane enchanter, cooking, etc. Pretty much any one should work. And mining also.

 

I *think there's some mod that provides the player with pocketable crafting stations (see Nexus) , so that might provide some sort of a transportable solution if you can find it. (as long as it uses the crafting station animation sequence)

 

[worik]

THere's another workaround mod "simple actions". It does things like sitting down, meditating pose, lay down. And once you end that, it resets the camera back to normal, like with the crafting stations.

 

Note to myself: have a look at that mod and it's scripts, how they reset the perspective back to normal.

 

[Psalam]

26 minutes ago, worik said:

THere's another workaround mod "simple actions". It does things like sitting down, meditating pose, lay down. And once you end that, it resets the camera back to normal, like with the crafting stations.

 

Note to myself: have a look at that mod and it's scripts, how they reset the perspective back to normal.

 

Isn't that just also pulling you "out of the game" and into an animation and releasing you just as we've been discussing? It's just a different animation, no?

 

Honestly, if I have no access to crafting stations I simply revert to using sex animations (including masturbation) until I click back into first person.

[anjenthedog]

If only giant hands was as easy to solve as this issue. ?

 

To sum things up, when you find you're locked out after an animation sequence, initiate a new, applicable animation sequence

1. crafting station (most successful option imo)
2. sex (can, but subject to same malicious code that left us this way), and it takes time to set up sex scene and you have to be in them long enough,  ideally until they end on their own, to ensure that they finish correctly
3. some sit down animation possibly (haven't tried m'self but not surprised)

- note: worst case you may need to punt back to an older save... I've had a few situations where that's just the most sensible solution.

 

One thing though.

• Sleep doesn't fix it (hasn't for me anyway).
• Mounting a horse sometimes does but less often than it doesn't (for me).
• Kissing often works (ie the romance kissing animation you gain once you've won over an NPC that shows up in your dialog options as "kiss <insert NPC name>" if you have the right mod installed and have gained kissing privilege with them), but again, not always, even though more often than not it does reset things correctly. It alos requires that you have a valid kissing target nearby to kiss.
• Battle animations? (ie your flashy strike animations) They don't ever fix it for me...
• Save and reload? Nope, at least not  for me.
• Fast Travel? Nuh uh. that's another fail. (although it is a good way to get to a crafting station like Whiterun at Adriennes' tools, or some favored home location with crafting stations easily accessible)

 

So just doing "some" animation isn't enough. It has to be a "right" animation that applies all the same rules that were violated and left us unable to zoom, or use 1st person, or pan, or use hotkey controls, or whatever combination penalty that was applied, and therefore clears the associated errors upon release from the animation.

 

Found that portable crafting stations mod... https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/4547

 

I'm going to give it a try. You might too.

[Torsten Torsten]

3 minutes ago, anjenthedog said:

If only giant hands was as easy to solve as this issue. ?

 

To sum things up, when you find you're locked out after an animation sequence, initiate a new, applicable animation sequence

1. crafting station (most successful option imo)
2. sex (can, but subject to same malicious code that left us this way)
3. some sit down animation possibly (haven't tried m'self but not surprised)

- note: worst case you may need to punt back to an older save... I've had a few situations where that's just the most sensible solution.

 

One thing though.

• Sleep doesn't fix it (hasn't for me anyway).
• Mounting a horse sometimes does but less often than it doesn't (for me).
• Kissing often works (ie the romance kissing animation you gain once you've won over an NPC that shows up in your dialog options as "kiss <insert NPC name>"...idk. romance of NPCs? Flower Girls? Eager NPCs? I don't recall anymore..the one where you win over NPCs by giving them gifts every now and then), but again, not always (even though more often than not it does) .
• Battle animations? They don't ever fix it for me...

 

So just doing "some" animation isn't enough. It has to be a "right" animation that applies all the same rules that were violated and left us unable to zoom, or use 1st person, or pan, or use hotkey controls, or whatever combination penalty that was applied, and therefore clears the associated errors upon release from the animation.

 

well to option 3. Sit down i can say it didnt work for me.

[anjenthedog]

12 minutes ago, Torsten Torsten said:

well to option 3. Sit down i can say it didnt work for me.

I edited my response, re-read. At the bottom, I provided some more detail and a link to a *possible "best best" solution. As well as some other things to think about in the main body. 

[worik]

2 hours ago, worik said:

Note to myself: have a look at that mod and it's scripts, how they reset the perspective back to normal.

1 hour ago, Psalam said:

Isn't that just also pulling you "out of the game" and into an animation and releasing you just as we've been discussing? It's just a different animation, no?

It does e.g.

Debug.SendAnimationEvent (target, "idleSitCrossLeggedEnter")

to sit down on the ground and

Debug.SendAnimationEvent (taret, "idleChairExitStart")

 

 

I'm not sure if playidle could make use of these ?.

E.g. playidle idleChairExitStart

Or playidle IdleSitCrossLeggedExit

 

And if the cooking station is alyways working it could be playidle IdleCookingSpitExit

[Psalam]

1 hour ago, worik said:

It does e.g.

Debug.SendAnimationEvent (target, "idleSitCrossLeggedEnter")

to sit down on the ground and

Debug.SendAnimationEvent (taret, "idleChairExitStart")

 

 

I'm not sure if playidle could make use of these ?.

E.g. playidle idleChairExitStart

Or playidle IdleSitCrossLeggedExit

 

And if the cooking station is alyways working it could be playidle IdleCookingSpitExit

I was wondering about just adding the cooking spit wherever you were using player.placeatme. If it bugged you to leave on in a Nordic ruin you could always use markfordelete.

[worik]

15 minutes ago, Psalam said:

I was wondering about just adding the cooking spit wherever you were using player.placeatme. If it bugged you to leave on in a Nordic ruin you could always use markfordelete.

I either use the sitting-down method or creating a campfire (Campfire+Frostfall) .

But the more I think about it, it must be the reset triggered at the end of one of these animations ? You could avoid to clutter the landscape with furniture.

 

I haven't been in game since June and nearly always in the CK, so I have litte opportunity to test it. But it should be worth to try

[Psalam]

40 minutes ago, worik said:

I either use the sitting-down method or creating a campfire (Campfire+Frostfall) .

But the more I think about it, it must be the reset triggered at the end of one of these animations ? You could avoid to clutter the landscape with furniture.

 

I haven't been in game since June and nearly always in the CK, so I have litte opportunity to test it. But it should be worth to try

For anyone else interested I used TESVEdit and looked these up:

 

Cooking spit 68adb

Cooking pot 1010b3

 

You can try adding them with 

 

player.placeatme 68adb 1

player.placeatme 1010b3 1

 

I'd love to hear about the success or failure anyone has with this. For my part, I simply hope I don't need to try it for some time.

 

Edit: I've tried it in-game and can attest that the commands are correct although the cooking pot looks odd. They are functional, that is, you can cook with them, so they should work with animation issues but that is yet to be tested.

[Psalam]

So, I caught a Forsworn and enslaved them using Paradise Halls. Subsequently I trained them for sale in And You Get a Slave (AYGAS) which included having sex with them multiple times. On two of those occasions I was stuck in 3rd person. I added a cooking spit each time  (player.placeatme 68adb 1) and used it. When I exited the spit both times I could return to 1st person without a problem. Surprisingly when I used markfordelete to remove the spit it disappeared immediately. 

 

I conclude that this seems to be an effective workaround for the stuck in 3rd person after animation glitch. If anyone else runs across a true solution or even a better workaround I'd love to know it. Further, if anyone has problems with this workaround (as I say I haven't so far but it's been with a limited number of trials) also please let me know.

[Tlam99]

35 minutes ago, Psalam said:

So, I caught a Forsworn and enslaved them using Paradise Halls. Subsequently I trained them for sale in And You Get a Slave (AYGAS) which included having sex with them multiple times. On two of those occasions I was stuck in 3rd person. I added a cooking spit each time  (player.placeatme 68adb 1) and used it. When I exited the spit both times I could return to 1st person without a problem. Surprisingly when I used markfordelete to remove the spit it disappeared immediately. 

 

I conclude that this seems to be an effective workaround for the stuck in 3rd person after animation glitch. If anyone else runs across a true solution or even a better workaround I'd love to know it. Further, if anyone has problems with this workaround (as I say I haven't so far but it's been with a limited number of trials) also please let me know.

workaround for me, Iuse a joint from the cannabis mod  

[Grey Cloud]

It could be worse. You could be stuck inside of Mobile with the Memphis blues again.

[Torsten Torsten]

Well tested today it dosnt happen anymore (might have been lucky) anyways i guess i know why it showed up in the first place. Ive tried to adjust the dick of my character since in some animations it only sticks right up or instead of in the mouth it hits chin or forehead. So my character is now size 0.9 (0.8 before but i realised im smaller than most npcs) instead of 1.0. i also aktivated the highheels optoin in slab. im using a the cbbe 3bbb body and the sos for females cbbe schlong (actuaily workes built it in bodyslide/outfitstuido) that could be the issue for my problem with the dick not aiming in the right sport. So what I did wrong was that i used racemenu while the animation was runing to adjust the schlong.

 

(ps if anyone knows any fix for my second problem (the dick not aming correctly) im happy to hear. for know i can kind of ignore it because it dosnt happen with every animation)

[Psalam]

22 minutes ago, Torsten Torsten said:

Well tested today it dosnt happen anymore (might have been lucky) anyways i guess i know why it showed up in the first place. Ive tried to adjust the dick of my character since in some animations it only sticks right up or instead of in the mouth it hits chin or forehead. So my character is now size 0.9 (0.8 before but i realised im smaller than most npcs) instead of 1.0. i also aktivated the highheels optoin in slab. im using a the cbbe 3bbb body and the sos for females cbbe schlong (actuaily workes built it in bodyslide/outfitstuido) that could be the issue for my problem with the dick not aiming in the right sport. So what I did wrong was that i used racemenu while the animation was runing to adjust the schlong.

 

(ps if anyone knows any fix for my second problem (the dick not aming correctly) im happy to hear. for know i can kind of ignore it because it dosnt happen with every animation)

That's an issue with each animation and doing as you have been (using the hotkeys to realign) is all there is.

 

Your third person problem IS likely to recur although I'm happy to hear you haven't had another issue today.

[Torsten Torsten]

28 minutes ago, Psalam said:

That's an issue with each animation and doing as you have been (using the hotkeys to realign) is all there is.

 

Your third person problem IS likely to recur although I'm happy to hear you haven't had another issue today.

Well i forgot about the realign buttoms (i didnt used the hotkeys) will use them nextime (i can make my character normal size again... yay i guess). Can i use it to realign the dick pointing straight up or in any other direction that is wrong? i mean i could still use racemenu for that (try fixing the dick pointing in the completly wrong direction) . Tried it today for realigning toaday and acctually had no issues with first person.

I hope i dont ask to much question. I am not that good at modding skyirm se. Im happy that i got it to work somehow.

Stay safe.

[Psalam]

4 minutes ago, Torsten Torsten said:

Well i forgot about the realign buttoms (i didnt used the hotkeys) will use them nextime (i can make my character normal size again... yay i guess). Can i use it to realign the dick pointing straight up or in any other direction that is wrong? i mean i could still use racemenu for that (try fixing the dick pointing in the completly wrong direction) . Tried it today for realigning toaday and acctually had no issues with first person.

I hope i dont ask to much question. I am not that good at modding skyirm se. Im happy that i got it to work somehow.

Stay safe.

SexLab has a page in its McMenu with all the hotkeys. IIRC you use PgUp/PgDown to adjust the penis.

[Torsten Torsten]

18 minutes ago, Psalam said:

SexLab has a page in its McMenu with all the hotkeys. IIRC you use PgUp/PgDown to adjust the penis.

Ohh okay thank you. That helps me a lot.