Mimolette27 Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 Hey everyone, I was wondering if there is a way to get report when u'r game crash to know which mod caused the crash ? My game crash like every 30 minutes or so. I'm addind my load order as a spoiler, maybe someone can tell my i'm dumb and that some mods aren't compatible with each other: Spoiler # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm Skyrim Supplemental Patch.esp RaceCompatibility.esm hdtHighHeel.esm JSwords.esm paradise_halls.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm Skyrim Exterior Fixes.esp Campfire.esm PubicMeshColorRE.esm Vigilant.esm TaraUltimateFurniturePack.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Heretical Resources.esm Heels Sound.esm PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm CreatureFramework.esm MoreNastyCritters.esp ImmersiveSpells.esp SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp SexLabDefeat.esp JSwords_Load_Screens.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp towConversation.esp UIExtensions.esp SkyUI.esp iHUD.esp AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp RelightingSkyrim_Legendary.esp Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp JKs Skyrim.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp SexLab More Creatures.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp Cloaks.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp DSHg - Hats.esp DSHg - UpdateDG.esp DSHg - UpdateDB.esp Bounty Gold.esp Differently Ebony.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp Convenient Horses.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp Brows.esp SGEyebrows.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Immersive Weapons.esp PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp Immersive Wenches.esp PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp NewArmoury.esp BDHagravenReplacer.esp Frostfall.esp Hateful Wenches.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp FalmerBikini.esp Equipping Overhaul.esp Dwarvenbikini.esp My Home Is Your Home.esp ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp Real Clouds.esp Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp DraugrSkirts.esp Hooves.esp Unique Uniques.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp PCE - No Custom Music patch.esp paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp HogsMaws.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp MainMenuReplacer4.esp Merta Black Rose Armor.esp VioLens.esp BHUNP3BBB.esp XPMSE.esp CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp RaceMenuMorphsBHUNP.esp Skyrim Exterior Fixes - Patch - Relighting Skyrim.esp QuickLight.esp KS Hairdo's.esp CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp AncientDraugr.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp Sunstarved_Tanlines.esp Nordic Warmaiden Body Hair.esp BarbarianPaints.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp Eyes of Aber.esp FNIS.esp Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp Tembtra Thief Armor.esp Cassandra Frost Witch.esp BD UUNP Armor and cloth replacer.esp DSHg - Helmets.esp DSHg - Hoods.esp ZaitamaVanillaUniqueArmor.esp Bijin Wives.esp Bijin NPCs.esp ZaitamaDragonbornUniqueArmor.esp BD-UUNP Dragonborn armor clothes replacer.esp LightBeamFix.esp Forgotten Wenches.esp sr_FillHerUp.esp Judgment Wenches.esp Immersive Wenches -KS hairs- Patch.esp Deadly Wenches.esp Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp Merta Assassin Armor.esp Daedric Reaper Armor.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp PAN_NPCs.esp AnimatedHeavyArmoury.esp Animated Immersive Weaps.esp DX Witcher Armor.esp RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp AddItemMenuLE.esp SexLabTools.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp PsycheAnimationObjects.esp NCK30Obj.esp MilkyObj.esp AnubAnimObj.esp CW3M.esp SLALAnimObj.esp BDOR Mueburus by Team TAL.esp pahe-tdf-patch.esp Draenei Horns and hooves.esp Botox.esp Botox_CharGen.esp Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp BDOR Mueburus UUNP.esp KaliliesNPCs.esp SOS - ERF Horse Penis UUNP - Addon.esp SexLab UtilityPlus.esp DM BDOR Eclipse by Team TAL.esp BDOR Eclipse UUNP Bodyslide.esp C5Kev's Herme Mora Priestess UUNP.esp Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp Vivid Weathers.esp C5Kev's Epic Black Rose Armor UUNP NoHS.esp C5Kev's Perfect Storm Outfit UUNP NoHS.esp C5Kev's Damned Witch UUNP NoHS.esp C5Kev's Jade Chainmail Armor UUNP NoHS.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp PAN_BlackBriar.esp PAN_NPCs_DB.esp PCE - Marked Droppable Barenziah Stones.esp Lupine_ZiovendianBodypaints.esp BloodMagicArmor.esp Vivid Weathers - Lanterns of Skyrim Preset.esp Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics.esp Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp Spartan Bard Outfit UNP LE.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp CommunityOverlays3.esp ContinueGameNoCrash.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp DynDOLOD.esp Thx in advance.
Corsayr Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 Crashes that seem to happen based on time (like 30 minutes into playing) it is usually memory based. I had some success increasing play time by using this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/102610 Which has more dynamic memory management than something like crash fixes. however, a lot of virus protection software gets really touchy when something starts playing with memory the way this does. So it sometimes gets reported as a malicious program. read the instructions carefully, and read a few of the comments to get an idea of what you are getting into. For my part when used right it worked wonders. (but a system restart was sometimes needed after I closed out of Skyrim because of the way it manages the system memory can make windows run funny if you don't reset everything.)
Mimolette27 Posted August 11, 2020 Author Posted August 11, 2020 Maybe WIndows Defender is to blame for that then, i will look into that. For the Plugin, i'm not very confortable using something that make my computer behaving funny ^^
Mr. Otaku Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 I can't think of a tool that can accurately detect the cause of a crash every time no matter what. Whenever i used to have problems like that i ran a check the old fashion way, by disabling the mods i thought were causing the crash and then seeing if it makes a difference, and then enabling them one by one while checking which one it is. Before it, running LOOT is always a given. Good luck.
Corsayr Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 Ya that plugin is not for everyone. ? But on the subject of your post, Crash fixes I believe outputs a log file that can sometimes point to a culprit. However, if as I suspect, it is a memory issue, the mod that was trying to use memory when it crashed will not really be the problem. It will just be whatever random thing was asking for memory when the cookie jar finally ran out. ?
donttouchmethere Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 8 hours ago, mathys27 said: My game crash like every 30 minutes or so. That sounds totally like a memory problem as Corsayr already pointed out. If you are lucky creating a skse.ini helps already. If not try Corsayr "Devourer" solution. Never heard of this tool before myself and the need to "restart the PC after use" sounds a bit odd (you might still need to also use crashfixes with deactivated memory allocation for the save game string count). If you want a more complicated but conservative solution: Spoiler
Just Don't Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 Why not just using ENBoost? that mod even requires the ENB executable in order to enable memory management. If the issue is memory handling ENBoost should be enough.
Mimolette27 Posted August 11, 2020 Author Posted August 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said: That sounds totally like a memory problem as Corsayr already pointed out. If you are lucky creating a skse.ini helps already. If not try Corsayr "Devourer" solution. Never heard of this tool before myself and it looks like a solution (you might still need to also use crashfixes with deactivated memory allocation for the save game string count). If you want a more complicated solution: Hide contents I don't mind complicated solution if it help, i'll try that too thx.
Mimolette27 Posted August 11, 2020 Author Posted August 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, dontknowdontcaredontask said: Why not just using ENBoost? that mod even requires the ENB executable in order to enable memory management. If the issue is video memory ENBoost should be enough. I tried using ENBoost once but it messed with my ENB so i did bother with it ( a mistake ?). Does skyrim as it's own video memory caped to a point that the game crash if it try to use too much ? ( i have a RTX 2080 Ti so i never thought about that).
Just Don't Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 If you're using ENB you don't need ENBoost. So you could discard memory issues, but just to be sure you can play for a while with Skyrim Performance Monitor to check your GPU/CPU/RAM usage and see if something weird happens when you crash. And yes, by default Skyrim being a 32bits program has some limitations. ENB/ENBoost do some behind the curtain magic so you can go a bit over the default limits. Quote How Does ENBoost Work? In order to understand how ENBoost works, it is important to first know how some 32-bit applications manage memory. Skyrim LE will be used for this explanation. The main Skyrim LE game executable, TESV.exe, is a 32-bit Large-Address-Aware (LAA) application. This means that although TESV.exe can only use a maximum of 2GB of system RAM on 32-bit Windows systems, it can access up to about 3.1GB of system RAM (4GB - about 900MB of system resources) on 64-bit systems. To drive the video card in displaying the game's 3D rendered graphics, TESV.exe must store object geometry (the shapes of things in the game) and texture data in its memory space, as a cache. This cache is then copied to the video card's VRAM to display on the screen. The memory limit is not a problem with an unmodded game because the cached data is dynamically loaded and unloaded to make room for new data as it's needed, and it almost never completely fills up all of TESV.exe's available RAM. However, when mods are added to Skyrim, the memory needed for cached data is significantly increased, and the more mods that are used, especially higher resolution texture mods, the higher the chance that TESV.exe will run out of memory. When this happens, either the program crashes or some objects do not get rendered. ENBoost overcomes this memory limitation by ... using available VRAM on your video card and using system RAM outside of TESV.exe for dynamically allocated cached data. The second method is accomplished by running an executable named enbhost.exe, which adds up to another ~4GB of memory available for ENBSeries to manage, per instance. The effectiveness and performance of ENBoost is determined by a number of factors, such as size of system RAM / VRAM, quality of video card, version of Windows OS, CPU, and even motherboard memory channel speed. Fortunately, a number of ENBoost user-settings have been added to account for the variety of system configurations.
Mimolette27 Posted August 11, 2020 Author Posted August 11, 2020 37 minutes ago, dontknowdontcaredontask said: If you're using ENB you don't need ENBoost. So you could discard memory issues, but just to be sure you can play for a while with Skyrim Performance Monitor to check your GPU/CPU/RAM usage and see if something weird happens when you crash. And yes, by default Skyrim being a 32bits program has some limitations. ENB/ENBoost do some behind the curtain magic so you can go a bit over the default limits. So ENB host add 4Gb of Vram if i understand correctly, what is the max memeory allocation can i set it to prevent crashes ?
Just Don't Posted August 11, 2020 Posted August 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, mathys27 said: So ENB host add 4Gb of Vram if i understand correctly, what is the max memeory allocation can i set it to prevent crashes ? You can't tweak that value, it's assigned dynamically as you need it through the process enbhost.exe creates in parallel with the game. The only thing you can tweak is the values in the [MEMORY] section of the enblocal.ini. See this for reference and don't change anything if you're unsure about the value or why you're changing it. But you would be doing all of this without even knowing for sure if your issue is related to memory. Which you can check if you use Skyrim Performance Monitor.
Mimolette27 Posted August 11, 2020 Author Posted August 11, 2020 1 minute ago, dontknowdontcaredontask said: You can't tweak that value, it's assigned dynamically as you need it through the process enbhost.exe creates in parallel with the game. The only thing you can tweak is the values in the [MEMORY] section of the enblocal.ini. See this for reference and don't change anything if you're unsure about the value or why you're changing it. But you would be doing all of this without even knowing for sure that your issue is related to memory issues. Which you can check if you use Skyrim Performance Monitor. I will try Skyrim Performance Monitor tomorow to see if it's a memory issue or not before headind into a deep tweaking ^^.
Guest Posted August 12, 2020 Posted August 12, 2020 enbhost.exe has nothing to do with VRAM. Refer to this post.
Mimolette27 Posted August 13, 2020 Author Posted August 13, 2020 So i used SPM to see if the problem was related to a memory issue, from the screenshot in the spoiler, it doesn't seem to be memory related. Spoiler I tried tweaking my ENBlocal.ini using the link given above, sadly it still crash. Got two crashs today, one when i was in the blue Palace, and one when i opened my map. I also set UseOSAllocators=1 in CrashFixPlugin.ini but it looks like my save no load forever.
Mimolette27 Posted August 13, 2020 Author Posted August 13, 2020 I monitored how much RAM skyrim was eating with my task manager, combined with Enbhost it was using 4.7Gigs max and crashed (when i used the map, again ....) at 4.5Gigs. I really don't know what is making the game crash. Can the Papyrus logs help me to find what's wrong ?
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