Guest Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Quite the catchy title isn't it? I think this was worth a thread because this guy called SupernaturalKath ( http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198067483616/myworkshopfiles/?72850 ) has already stolen several mods and audaciously (I got no idea if that the correct word, used a dictionary) uploaded them to the Steam-Workshop. But not only that, like every shitty pirate he deletes every comment regarding him being a shitty pirate. And he also changed the names and (I think) parts of the .esp to show him as the author to avoid getting banned. So if you got time I'd like to ask you to report his stuff so the moderators, if the workshop even has any, get off their lazy bums and take that stuff down. There are already quite alot people trying to take him down but it apparently isn't enough yet.
polluxval Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Welcome to the club. I have months reporting stuff and I'm getting tired of it.
Arcueid Brunestud Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Fame, name, and internet glory~~~ Oh, and also shame and utter disgust.
Guest Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 And I just stumbled upon the reason why Jojjo stopped modding... god this makes me rage more than my 3v3 matches when I was still playing WoW. I thought the Nexus was filled with douchebags but compared to the workshop it's fucking Valhalla where everyone is happily drinking mead together for all eternity.
oblivioner Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Well there is always the option of downvoting the offending person, since by default the mods are shown by rating/popularity
Guest Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Well there is always the option of downvoting the offending person, since by default the mods are shown by rating/popularity Sadly there are way too many people on the workshop that either don't know or don't give a fuck if the uploader stole the mod and upvote it anyway.
polluxval Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Well there is always the option of downvoting the offending person, since by default the mods are shown by rating/popularity Sadly there are way too many people on the workshop that either don't know or don't give a fuck if the uploader stole the mod and upvote it anyway. I have to agree with that. Even if you vote down the file, there is like 100 voters who doesn't know about the rip off. Reporting the files to steam it's in most cases useless...
« Broken ‡ Mirror » Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 You know. I'm starting to really think about adding in security like how naver does it.
cornbreadtm Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Who gives a shit about the steam workshop, it'll be dead in a year like beepers and oil lamps. Steam doesn't give a shit about it an the people on it are either huge jack asses who only comment to flame or white knight modders who only use it in a silent protest of the Nexus. Nexus moderators might be pricks some times (most times) but at least they exist.
polluxval Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Who gives a shit about the steam workshop, it'll be dead in a year like beepers and oil lamps. Steam doesn't give a shit about it an the people on it are either huge jack asses who only comment to flame or white knight modders who only use it in a silent protest of the Nexus. Nexus moderators might be pricks some times (most times) but at least they exist. The main problem is that many modders upload their stuff on steamworkshop because they get "money" (if it is good of course). Also, many of those mods doesn't exist on Nexus so it will always be new mods on steam and I really doubt it will be dead any time soon.
DeltaD36 Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Ugh. Some Russian guys did something similar to DigitalEro and their Gmod models. He uploaded them to his own little file hoster to where people had to pay to get them. The asshole even stole and used the creators own release pictures for his thread. So you know what I did? I went to the forum, used Google Translate, wrote a "formal" complaint and about 2 hours later, the thread was taken down. The admin even went to the length to come and make an account on our website to give his formal apology. Wish Steam Workshop had such service. There is certainly no feeling of rage like someone stealing someone elses hard work that they spent hours on and making a potential profit off of it and calling it their own. This feeling increases 10 fold when there is nothing you can do about it. I'm not sure what exactly can be done, but do everything nessasary to take him down. If there is a way to 'report' or message someone on Steam, than do it. Do everything. If you can prove he didn't make it and he is using it illegally than there is no need NOT to do everything possible.
Halstrom Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 We could always bombard him with faked support issues for the mods instead, and make him look dumb when he can't answer non-existant issues with "his" mods
Dude500X Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Time to play devils advocate. Sure, what this guy has done is wrong. But, it is a good way to archive a mod incase an author decides to remove it from the internet, these people who upload unauthroised releases of mods are ensuring that the mod users can still access mods if they get taken down somewhere else. Prime example is Fallout Remastered. Got taken down from Nexus and its creator is threatening people with copyright, but can you blame people re-upping it?I suppose I'm in the camp of "I don't care who made it, I only care that I can access it". Alot of mod users think like this as well, that is why people use that download on Steam workshop.
Remy Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Sucks when people steal your work, but this is the internet, the possiblilty of it to happen will be always high, plus the modding in its nature is a free medium therefore many people dont care about who made the mod and either vote because of being polite or just download.
Porcelyn Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Steam does have some nice mods but mostly it's full of filthy thieves and trolls. SupernaturalKath is another mod thief. When it's pointed out that she's a thief you get intelligent remarks like this. "I honestly dont care if its stolen those Fuckers on Nexus didnt bother to upload it on the Workshop so fuck em." It really makes me sick.
Halstrom Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Time to play devils advocate. Sure, what this guy has done is wrong. But, it is a good way to archive a mod incase an author decides to remove it from the internet, these people who upload unauthroised releases of mods are ensuring that the mod users can still access mods if they get taken down somewhere else. Prime example is Fallout Remastered. Got taken down from Nexus and its creator is threatening people with copyright, but can you blame people re-upping it? I suppose I'm in the camp of "I don't care who made it, I only care that I can access it". Alot of mod users think like this as well, that is why people use that download on Steam workshop. Re uploading mods is dubious, renaming them and taking credit is another story all together.
Athstai Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Shouldn't this be easily solvable by sending a DMCA complain to steam? Why bother to hope on the goodwill of some moderator? And for the topic: IMHO reuploading and publishing in most cases even editing/expanding is fine - not from a legal POV of course but from the moral stand point of modding. But only as long as proper credits are given and no money is earned from the work without permission.
Mailamea Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Kinda like were a user from nexus stole credits from my mod, but this one is a steam workshop user lol
Curseddonut Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Well.....maybe you should put a copyright text file in your mod, and maybe a copyright text that pops-up when playing with the mod for the first time....Or a letter that gets added in your inventory with copyright stuff and that you made the mod. Or you could just upload it on the steamworkshop. Currently I'm studying for software development and next year I will get a extra class in which I will be teached on how to make your own company, how to sell and all the things related to copyright and such. And my guess is that when I publish a program without copyright and somoene else "steals" it and publishes it WITH copyright it would belong to him/her. Basically these mods belong to nobody (except bethasda?) since they cant prove it legally.
Athstai Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 And my guess is that when I publish a program without copyright and somoene else "steals" it and publishes it WITH copyright it would belong to him/her.You guess wrong - and in the age of wikipedia it's not even hard to educate yourself in under a minute, no need to wait to "study" it for a semester. Under the Berne Convention copyright is given automatically as soon as a work is created (the USA have some additional requirements if you want to sue for damages). Not adding a note doesn't change the fact that you own the copyright for your work.
Rayblue Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Currently I'm studying for software development and next year I will get a extra class in which I will be teached on how to make your own company, how to sell and all the things related to copyright and such. And my guess is that when I publish a program without copyright and somoene else "steals" it and publishes it WITH copyright it would belong to him/her. Basically these mods belong to nobody (except bethasda?) since they cant prove it legally. I recall a voluminous work of online fiction -- an alternative history novel -- written by an American, but a Russian nicked the rights by distributing it through BT as a copyrighted PDF, forcing the author to stop writing.
Curseddonut Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 And my guess is that when I publish a program without copyright and somoene else "steals" it and publishes it WITH copyright it would belong to him/her.You guess wrong - and in the age of wikipedia it's not even hard to educate yourself in under a minute, no need to wait to "study" it for a semester. Under the Berne Convention copyright is given automatically as soon as a work is created (the USA have some additional requirements if you want to sue for damages). Not adding a note doesn't change the fact that you own the copyright for your work. I was only guessing and I myself did not choose that class its part of my study and it doesnt only future copyright BS but also how to write it i guess. Aside from that I learn how to sell my products, determine the price of my products, setting up a company etc. etc. Its not for a long period of time and I will only get it for 4-5 months. On a side I only use Wikipedia for subjects related to History, war and weapons since those things are my interests and I dont want to look up things I might learn in the future which already dont interest me. off-topic: Steam is down lol
Smirenka Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 Well, if it's any consolation, they no longer seem to have any files listed, so something someone did worked, maybe? Also, I need to post more and lurk less. Oops.
Guest Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 I got a mail from Steam saying that they got my report and removed 7 other mods from the workshop (it doesn't say if those other 7 were from the same user though) and since that dude's mod uploads are all gone I guess it worked.
cornbreadtm Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 I got a mail from Steam saying that they got my report and removed 7 other mods from the workshop (it doesn't say if those other 7 were from the same user though) and since that dude's mod uploads are all gone I guess it worked. Well, so how does it feel to save the day, yet again, Batman?
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