Larei Posted July 10, 2020 Posted July 10, 2020 Hello there, I've reinstalled Skyrim LE some days ago, and with it a bit of a lot of mod, well, no CTD or anything (which was a first for all the time I've done this before) so I was kinda glad, sadly my character and everyone else is T-Posing. The creature are doing fine though but playing as a bear isn't really on my plan. I'm using Vortex to install all this, and I'm using FNIS directly from it. I've already checked for the version of my mod and FNIS, everything is for LE and has been sorted by LOOT, here's my logs : Spoiler FNIS Behavior V7.6 XXL 10/07/2020 19:57:44 Skyrim 32bit: 1.9.32.0 - C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\ (Steam) Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (126 bones) male: XPMS2HDT (126 bones) Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" Reading 3jiou V1.0 ... ChAnims:443 CTD:2,3% pOpt:0,4% Reading AnimationsByLeito V1.0 ... ChAnims:298 CTD:1,8% pOpt:0,5% Reading AnimationsByLeito_Aggressive V1.0 ... ChAnims:145 CTD:0,9% pOpt:0,2% Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ... ChAnims:136 CTD:0,8% pOpt:0,2% Reading AnimationsByLeito_Furniture V1.0 ... ChAnims:185 CTD:1,2% pOpt:0,3% Reading AnimationsByMike24 V1.0 ... ChAnims:30 CTD:0,2% pOpt:0,0% Reading BeeingFemale V2.8 ... ChAnims:9 CTD:0,1% pOpt:0,0% Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ... ChAnims:269 CTD:1,7% pOpt:0,4% Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs V1.0 ... ChAnims:145 CTD:0,9% pOpt:0,2% Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ... ChAnims:30 CTD:0,2% pOpt:0,0% Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ... ChAnims:320 CTD:2,0% pOpt:0,5% Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ... ChAnims:202 CTD:1,2% pOpt:0,3% Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ... ChAnims:100 CTD:0,6% pOpt:0,2% Reading Billyy_Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:506 CTD:3,1% pOpt:0,8% Reading Billyy_HumanFurniture V1.0 ... ChAnims:142 CTD:0,9% pOpt:0,2% Reading Billyy_HumanLesbian V1.0 ... ChAnims:160 CTD:1,0% pOpt:0,2% Reading DD V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:635(493) CTD:11,2% pOpt:1,0% Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:330(330) CTD:9,3% pOpt:0,0% Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ... ChAnims:102(102) CTD:2,5% pOpt:0,0% Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:410 CTD:2,8% pOpt:0,9% Reading Defeat V5 ... ChAnims:39 CTD:0,5% pOpt:0,2% Reading D_ManXX2 V1.0 ... ChAnims:10 CTD:0,1% pOpt:0,0% Reading EstrusChaurus V4.35 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0,0% pOpt:0,0% Reading Evacuation V1.0 ... ChAnims:146 CTD:0,9% pOpt:0,2% Reading FNISBase V7.6 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0,0% pOpt:0,0% Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.6 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0,0% pOpt:0,0% Reading FNISSexyMove V7.1 ... ChAnims:21(18) CTD:0,5% pOpt:0,0% Reading FNISSpells V5.0.1 ... ChAnims:94 CTD:0,6% pOpt:0,0% NOTE: FNISSpells uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading FunnyBizBeastly V1.0 ... ChAnims:90 CTD:0,6% pOpt:0,1% Reading FunnyBizBound V12.0 ... ChAnims:180 CTD:1,1% pOpt:0,3% Reading FunnyBizFemDom V1.0 ... ChAnims:85 CTD:0,5% pOpt:0,1% Reading FunnyBizFun V12.0 ... ChAnims:334 CTD:2,0% pOpt:0,5% Reading FunnyBizGroup V8.0 ... ChAnims:471 CTD:3,0% pOpt:0,8% Reading FunnyBizGuro V5.0 ... ChAnims:108 CTD:0,7% pOpt:0,2% Reading FunnyBizLover V7.0 ... ChAnims:156 CTD:1,0% pOpt:0,2% Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ... ChAnims:45 CTD:0,3% pOpt:0,1% Reading FunnyBizMolag V1.0 ... ChAnims:339 CTD:2,1% pOpt:0,5% Reading FunnyBizMtb V3.0 ... ChAnims:23 CTD:0,2% pOpt:0,0% Reading FunnyBizRape V11.0 ... ChAnims:310 CTD:1,9% pOpt:0,5% Reading FunnyBizUn V12.0 ... ChAnims:590 CTD:3,6% pOpt:0,9% Reading Guffel V1.0 ... ChAnims:20 CTD:0,1% pOpt:0,0% Reading HCOSBestiality V1.0 ... ChAnims:142 CTD:0,9% pOpt:0,2% Reading HCOSVore V1.0 ... ChAnims:74 CTD:0,4% pOpt:0,1% Reading K4Anims V1.0 ... ChAnims:132 CTD:1,6% pOpt:1,0% NOTE: K4Anims has at least one identical -AV defined in both 's' and '+' line Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... ChAnims:344 CTD:2,2% pOpt:0,6% Reading NibblesAnims_Creature V1.0 ... ChAnims:122 CTD:0,8% pOpt:0,2% Reading NibblesAnims_Creature_Object V1.0 ... ChAnims:16 CTD:0,1% pOpt:0,0% Reading NibblesAnims_Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:284 CTD:1,7% pOpt:0,4% Reading NibblesAnims_Object V1.0 ... ChAnims:153 CTD:0,9% pOpt:0,2% Reading NSAP Anub V1.0 ... ChAnims:38 CTD:0,2% pOpt:0,0% NOTE: NSAP Anub uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading NSAP Mitos V1.0 ... ChAnims:44 CTD:0,2% pOpt:0,0% NOTE: NSAP Mitos uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading SexLab V1.62 ... ChAnims:1025 CTD:6,5% pOpt:1,7% Reading SexLabAroused V?.? ... ChAnims:5 CTD:0,1% pOpt:0,0% Reading SexLabCreature V1.61 ... ChAnims:178 CTD:1,2% pOpt:0,3% Reading SexLab_Aroused_Creatures V1.0 ... ChAnims:1 CTD:0,0% pOpt:0,0% Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ... ChAnims:23 CTD:0,2% pOpt:0,0% Reading Suke V1.0 ... ChAnims:40 CTD:0,3% pOpt:0,1% Reading XPMSE V7.2 ... ChAnims:164(164) CTD:2,2% pOpt:0,0% Reading ZaZAnimationPack V7.00 ... ChAnims:829 CTD:3,6% pOpt:0,0% Reading znarokspack V1.0 ... ChAnims:61 CTD:0,4% pOpt:0,1% All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files... No GENDER directory male 11 GENDER modifications for Animations\female Alternate Animation mods: 5 sets: 42 total groups: 179 added file slots: 1324 alternate files: 1107 Create Creature Behaviors ... Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs V1.0 ... Reading HCOSWildlife V1.0 ... Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ... Reading HCOSBestiality V1.0 ... Reading NibblesAnims_Creature V1.0 ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.62 ... Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ... Reading Evacuation V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ... Reading K4Anims V?.? ... Reading NibblesAnims_Creature_Object V1.0 ... Reading HCOSVore V1.0 ... Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ... Reading SexLab_Aroused_Creatures V1.0 ... 11333 animations for 60 mods successfully included (character) ChAnims: 11333 CTD:86,1% pOpt:16,1% max: 13163 LC: 22524 (max. 26162) 4185 animations for 19 mods and 45 creatures successfully included. 0 possible consistence issues And here's my load order, probably a bit (a lot) messed up, but I don't know how to change it with Vortex, I was more familiar with NMM : Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 notice board.esp 7 7 SexLab.esm 8 8 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 9 9 RSkyrimChildren.esm 10 a BeeingFemale.esm 11 b WM Flora Fixes.esp 12 c Campfire.esm 13 d SexLabAroused.esm 14 e Devious Devices - Integration.esm 15 f Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 16 10 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 17 11 daymoyl.esm 18 12 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 19 13 CreatureFramework.esm 20 14 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 21 15 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 22 16 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 23 17 FNIS.esp 24 18 12FemaleBrows.esp 25 19 SOSRaceMenu.esp 26 1a XPMSE.esp 27 1b AOS.esp 28 1c Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 29 1d Immersive Weapons.esp 30 1e WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp 31 1f aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp 32 20 SexLabDangerousNights2.esp 33 21 SexLab Warmbodies.esp 34 22 SexualPersuasion.esp 35 23 SexLabDefeat.esp 36 24 BFAP v1.4.esp 37 25 BeeingFemale_RS_Patch.esp 38 26 BFA_CreatureChildActors_V+DG+DB.esp 39 27 BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp 40 28 3jiouAnimSLAL.esp 41 29 SLAL_K4Anims.esp 42 2a SLALAnimObj.esp 43 2b NibblesAnimObjects.esp 44 2c SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 45 2d SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp 46 2e SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 47 2f Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 48 30 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp 49 31 3DNPC.esp 50 32 Immersive Jewelry.esp 51 33 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 52 34 SexLab_Solutions.esp 53 35 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp 54 36 PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp 55 37 PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp 56 38 Pre PaMa WAFR CCF CCOR Wintermyst Patch.esp 57 39 Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp 58 3a SoS - The Wilds.esp 59 3b SexLab-Stories.esp 60 3c PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp 61 3d SoS - Civilization.esp 62 3e OBIS.esp 63 3f SexLab_DibellaCult.esp 64 40 zThingsInDark.esp 65 41 SexLab Confabulation.esp 66 42 MoreNastyCritters.esp 67 43 EstrusChaurus.esp 68 44 EstrusSpider.esp 69 45 BF_ScrollMerchant.esp 70 46 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 71 47 BDIC.esp 72 48 Better Vampires.esp 73 49 Locational Damage.esp 74 4a SimplyKnock.esp 75 4b female mannequins.esp 76 4c female mannequins in homes.esp 77 4d KS Hairdos - HDT.esp 78 4e ReadingTakesTime.esp 79 4f Beards.esp 80 50 LovelyHairstylesCE.esp 81 51 SoS - The Dungeons.esp 82 52 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.esp 83 53 AOS2_SoS_CoT Patch.esp 84 54 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 85 55 Civil War Repairs.esp 86 56 TheChoiceIsYours.esp 87 57 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp 88 58 Inconsequential NPCs.esp 89 59 HornyCreatures.esp 90 5a RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 91 5b SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp 92 5c SexLab Confabulation - Solutions Patch.esp 93 5d Run For Your Lives.esp 94 5e OBIS Redone.esp 95 5f Immersive Patrols II.esp 96 60 HarvestOverhaul.esp 97 61 WM Flora Fixes HO Patch.esp 98 62 HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp 99 63 SexLab_Dialogues.esp 100 64 SexLab-Parasites.esp 101 65 Frostfall.esp 102 66 PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp 103 67 _BF_Alchemist_CP_seller.esp 104 68 SexLab Pheromones.esp 105 69 HarvestOverhaulCreatures_RND_Animal_Loot_All_DLC.esp 106 6a Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 107 6b IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp 108 6c RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp 109 6d SL99Exchanger.esp 110 6e BikiniMaidenFull.esp 111 6f Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 112 70 SOS - Shop.esp 113 71 FNISspells.esp 114 72 HentaiCreatures.esp 115 73 MF_RadiantProstitution.esp 116 74 Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp 117 75 WerewolfPerksExpanded.esp 118 76 SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp 119 77 BooksOfSkyrim.esp 120 78 DeadlyDragons.esp 121 79 AOS2_DD Patch.esp 122 7a dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 123 7b AOS2_EBT Patch.esp 124 7c Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp 125 7d Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp 126 7e Book of UUNP - Textures.esp 127 7f VioLens.esp 128 80 RSChildren.esp 129 81 SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp 130 82 RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp 131 83 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 132 84 Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp 133 85 Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp 134 86 PerMa-Content Addon Patch.esp 135 87 PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp 136 88 PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp 137 89 OBISDB.esp 138 8a RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp 139 8b RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp 140 8c Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 141 8d KS Hairdo's.esp 142 8e PerMa-CACO.esp 143 8f AOS2_WAF Patch.esp 144 90 Weapons & Armor_DragonPriestMasks.esp 145 91 Weapons & Armor_FasterArrows.esp 146 92 SkyUI.esp 147 93 Dual Sheath Redux.esp 148 94 dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp 149 95 dD-Medium Script Range.esp 150 96 hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp 151 97 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 152 98 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 153 99 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 154 9a ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp 155 9b ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp 156 9c CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp 157 9d CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp 158 9e Lupine_ZiovendianBodypaints.esp 159 9f Lupine_YyvengarBodypaints.esp 160 a0 SexLabWerewolves.esp 161 a1 Dovabear.esp 162 a2 SLAnimLoader.esp 163 a3 SexLabTools.esp 164 a4 UIExtensions.esp 165 a5 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 166 a6 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 167 a7 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 168 a8 RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp 169 a9 RaceMenuOverlays.esp 170 aa RaceMenu.esp 171 ab RaceMenuPlugin.esp 172 ac FNISSexyMove.esp 173 ad Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 174 ae Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 175 af RDO - CACO Patch.esp 176 b0 RDO - UFO v1.2j.b15 Patch.esp 177 b1 RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp 178 b2 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 179 b3 ASIS-Dependency.esp 180 b4 PatchusMaximus.esp 181 b5 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp 182 b6 Automatic Variants.esp 183 b7 ASIS.esp It's been two days since I'm trying to figure how to solve this, so if you have any clue or voodoo shit to make it work, I'm willing to give you my firstborn. I just hope I won't have to resort to a complete reinstall cause I don't have a stable wifi connection. Thanks to anyone who would be so kind as to peek at my problem
Grey Cloud Posted July 10, 2020 Posted July 10, 2020 Some general points first: When reinstalling from scratch it is much more sensible to make sure the base game is stable and then add mods a bunch at a time than to shovel on 180 mods and then have to try to troubleshoot. With Vortex, either use its autosort feature or disable that and use LOOT. The autosort thing will always override anything you do in LOOT. Having said that, your LO doesn't look bad. To be honest nothing leaps out here. It would appear to be a skeleton issue but FNIS is showing the correct skeleton XPMS2HDT (126 bones), you have the correct patch boxes ticked and you have XPMSE before MNC in your load order. The only thing I can think of is to check in Vortex that you have the conflict rule set to let MNC overwrite XPMSE.
Larei Posted July 10, 2020 Author Posted July 10, 2020 That was it ! Or not, sadly it didn't do anything, I knew I should had taken my time adding mods, checking in and all the thing someone with a bit of common sense should do but my impatient ass kept telling itself it would be fine, sad that it didn't worked but not that much surprised, I think doing a correct reinstall is my only way, I will wait to see if some people had a magic trick under there sleeve before erasing, still thank you for taking the time to answer
Grey Cloud Posted July 10, 2020 Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Larei said: Or not, sadly it didn't do anything, What didn't do anything?
Larei Posted July 10, 2020 Author Posted July 10, 2020 Changing the rule, XPMSE was overwriting MNC and ABC HDT as you've supposed. I changed the rule, redeployed and launched FNIS but still got T-Pose
Just Don't Posted July 10, 2020 Posted July 10, 2020 You have several animation packs, if even one of these was made for SE and you installed it in LE, you'll likely get T-pose after running FNIS. Now, there is an easy way to tell if this is your case. In FNIS there is a HKX compatibility check option, thing is in the latest LE version of FNIS that check is broken, or at least that was my experience when I tested it with regular FNIS a few weeks ago (I also saw a couple of other cases). Perhaps the check works fine with FNIS XXL? I'm not sure, so you might need to check manually for any incompatible animation type mod, or roll back to a previous version of FNIS and enable the HKX compat. check.
Larei Posted July 10, 2020 Author Posted July 10, 2020 7_6 HKX compatibility is also broken in XXL, revert back to 7_5, haven't seen compatibility problem Spoiler FNIS Behavior V7.5 XXL 11/07/2020 01:03:04 Skyrim 32bit: 1.9.32.0 - C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\ (Steam) Skeleton(hkx) female: Unknown (126 bones) male: Unknown (126 bones) Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" Patch: "HKX File Compatibility Check Skyrim/SSE" Reading 3jiou V1.0 ... ChAnims:443 CTD:2,3% pOpt:0,4% Reading AnimationsByLeito V1.0 ... ChAnims:298 CTD:1,8% pOpt:0,5% Reading AnimationsByLeito_Aggressive V1.0 ... ChAnims:145 CTD:0,9% pOpt:0,2% Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ... ChAnims:136 CTD:0,8% pOpt:0,2% Reading AnimationsByLeito_Furniture V1.0 ... ChAnims:185 CTD:1,2% pOpt:0,3% Reading AnimationsByMike24 V1.0 ... ChAnims:30 CTD:0,2% pOpt:0,0% Reading BeeingFemale V2.8 ... ChAnims:9 CTD:0,1% pOpt:0,0% Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ... ChAnims:269 CTD:1,7% pOpt:0,4% Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs V1.0 ... ChAnims:145 CTD:0,9% pOpt:0,2% Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ... ChAnims:30 CTD:0,2% pOpt:0,0% Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ... ChAnims:320 CTD:2,0% pOpt:0,5% Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ... ChAnims:202 CTD:1,2% pOpt:0,3% Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ... ChAnims:100 CTD:0,6% pOpt:0,2% Reading Billyy_Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:506 CTD:3,1% pOpt:0,8% Reading Billyy_HumanFurniture V1.0 ... ChAnims:142 CTD:0,9% pOpt:0,2% Reading Billyy_HumanLesbian V1.0 ... ChAnims:160 CTD:1,0% pOpt:0,2% Reading DD V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:635(493) CTD:11,2% pOpt:1,0% Reading DD2 V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:330(330) CTD:9,3% pOpt:0,0% Reading DD3 V4.1.0 ... ChAnims:102(102) CTD:2,5% pOpt:0,0% Reading DDSL V4.0.0 ... ChAnims:410 CTD:2,8% pOpt:0,9% Reading Defeat V5 ... ChAnims:39 CTD:0,5% pOpt:0,2% Reading D_ManXX2 V1.0 ... ChAnims:10 CTD:0,1% pOpt:0,0% Reading EstrusChaurus V4.35 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0,0% pOpt:0,0% Reading Evacuation V1.0 ... ChAnims:146 CTD:0,9% pOpt:0,2% Reading FNISBase V7.5 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0,0% pOpt:0,0% Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.6 ... ChAnims:0 CTD:0,0% pOpt:0,0% Reading FNISSexyMove V7.1 ... ChAnims:21(18) CTD:0,5% pOpt:0,0% Reading FNISSpells V5.0.1 ... ChAnims:94 CTD:0,6% pOpt:0,0% NOTE: FNISSpells uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading FunnyBizBeastly V1.0 ... ChAnims:90 CTD:0,6% pOpt:0,1% Reading FunnyBizBound V12.0 ... ChAnims:180 CTD:1,1% pOpt:0,3% Reading FunnyBizFemDom V1.0 ... ChAnims:85 CTD:0,5% pOpt:0,1% Reading FunnyBizFun V12.0 ... ChAnims:334 CTD:2,0% pOpt:0,5% Reading FunnyBizGroup V8.0 ... ChAnims:471 CTD:3,0% pOpt:0,8% Reading FunnyBizGuro V5.0 ... ChAnims:108 CTD:0,7% pOpt:0,2% Reading FunnyBizLover V7.0 ... ChAnims:156 CTD:1,0% pOpt:0,2% Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ... ChAnims:45 CTD:0,3% pOpt:0,1% Reading FunnyBizMolag V1.0 ... ChAnims:339 CTD:2,1% pOpt:0,5% Reading FunnyBizMtb V3.0 ... ChAnims:23 CTD:0,2% pOpt:0,0% Reading FunnyBizRape V11.0 ... ChAnims:310 CTD:1,9% pOpt:0,5% Reading FunnyBizUn V12.0 ... ChAnims:590 CTD:3,6% pOpt:0,9% Reading Guffel V1.0 ... ChAnims:20 CTD:0,1% pOpt:0,0% Reading HCOSBestiality V1.0 ... ChAnims:142 CTD:0,9% pOpt:0,2% Reading HCOSVore V1.0 ... ChAnims:74 CTD:0,4% pOpt:0,1% Reading K4Anims V1.0 ... ChAnims:132 CTD:1,6% pOpt:1,0% NOTE: K4Anims has at least one identical -AV defined in both 's' and '+' line Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... ChAnims:344 CTD:2,2% pOpt:0,6% Reading NibblesAnims_Creature V1.0 ... ChAnims:122 CTD:0,8% pOpt:0,2% Reading NibblesAnims_Creature_Object V1.0 ... ChAnims:16 CTD:0,1% pOpt:0,0% Reading NibblesAnims_Human V1.0 ... ChAnims:284 CTD:1,7% pOpt:0,4% Reading NibblesAnims_Object V1.0 ... ChAnims:153 CTD:0,9% pOpt:0,2% Reading NSAP Anub V1.0 ... ChAnims:38 CTD:0,2% pOpt:0,0% NOTE: NSAP Anub uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading NSAP Mitos V1.0 ... ChAnims:44 CTD:0,2% pOpt:0,0% NOTE: NSAP Mitos uses outdated behavior file (may invalidate CTD Load calculation) Reading SexLab V1.62 ... ChAnims:1025 CTD:6,5% pOpt:1,7% Reading SexLabAroused V?.? ... ChAnims:5 CTD:0,1% pOpt:0,0% Reading SexLabCreature V1.61 ... ChAnims:178 CTD:1,2% pOpt:0,3% Reading SexLab_Aroused_Creatures V1.0 ... ChAnims:1 CTD:0,0% pOpt:0,0% Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ... ChAnims:23 CTD:0,2% pOpt:0,0% Reading Suke V1.0 ... ChAnims:40 CTD:0,3% pOpt:0,1% Reading XPMSE V7.2 ... ChAnims:164(164) CTD:2,2% pOpt:0,0% Reading ZaZAnimationPack V7.00 ... ChAnims:829 CTD:3,6% pOpt:0,0% Reading znarokspack V1.0 ... ChAnims:61 CTD:0,4% pOpt:0,1% All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files... No GENDER directory male 11 GENDER modifications for Animations\female Alternate Animation mods: 5 sets: 42 total groups: 179 added file slots: 1324 alternate files: 1107 Create Creature Behaviors ... Reading Billyy_CreatureConstructs V1.0 ... Reading HCOSWildlife V1.0 ... Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ... Reading HCOSBestiality V1.0 ... Reading NibblesAnims_Creature V1.0 ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.62 ... Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ... Reading Evacuation V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ... Reading K4Anims V?.? ... Reading NibblesAnims_Creature_Object V1.0 ... Reading HCOSVore V1.0 ... Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ... Reading SexLab_Aroused_Creatures V1.0 ... 11333 animations for 60 mods successfully included (character) ChAnims: 11333 CTD:86,1% pOpt:16,1% max: 13163 LC: 22524 (max. 26162) 4185 animations for 19 mods and 45 creatures successfully included.
Larei Posted July 10, 2020 Author Posted July 10, 2020 Don't know if it's usefull info, but the hdt physic's working, kinda weird with all the T-pose
Just Don't Posted July 10, 2020 Posted July 10, 2020 Oh that would have been so easy to spot and fix. But now FNIS is reading your skeleton as unknown, is it normal? It's been a while since I used FNIS (at all) and I don't use XXL, so can't say if that's normal or not. I'm out of ideas and not being useful, the only thing I would do in your case is disable some animation packs, use FNIS and see if I get a T-pose in game, to see if I can reproduce the issue with a particular anim. pack installed, or after reaching X amount of animations, but I seriously doubt that's your case tho).
Larei Posted July 10, 2020 Author Posted July 10, 2020 Well, gonna check it anyway, as for the skeleton, I think it's because XPMSE had a maj a few month ago adding bone, and 7_6 was made so as to recognize it, not sure though
Just Don't Posted July 10, 2020 Posted July 10, 2020 Ah yes, you went from 7.6 to 7.5 between your original fnis log and the last one.
Grey Cloud Posted July 11, 2020 Posted July 11, 2020 You don't need this ticked with LE Patch: "HKX File Compatibility Check Skyrim/SSE" I use Vortex, FNIS 7.6 XXL, XMPSE 4.67, MNC 12.04 and ABC 1.152. The 'unknown' skeleton was correct/normal for a version or two of FNIS. Fore said it didn't matter (somewhere here in tech support). The bone count was what mattered - 126. Marvellous. I haven't been near Skyrim or Vortex for a week or more. I fire up Vortex to see how I have my conflicts set up and after an age Vortex arrives with none of my mods showing as having conflicts with anything, not even my 10 NPC overhauls. One big, happy family. So after a restart, Vortex says my batting order is XPMSE MNC ABC
Just Don't Posted July 11, 2020 Posted July 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: You don't need this ticked with LE Patch: "HKX File Compatibility Check Skyrim/SSE" That check isn't for SE exclusively and can be used in both LE and SE. All that patch does is check if you have any incompatible animation installed (which OP already discarded with the latest fnis log). In other words, it detects if the user has any LE animations in a SE game, or SE animations in a LE game.
donttouchmethere Posted July 11, 2020 Posted July 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, dontknowdontcaredontask said: That check isn't for SE exclusively and can be used in both LE and SE. All that patch does is check if you have any incompatible animation installed (which OP already discarded with the latest fnis log). In other words, it detects if the user has any LE animations in a SE game, or SE animations in a LE game. While messing the whole FNIS generation process up ?
Larei Posted July 11, 2020 Author Posted July 11, 2020 Alright so I followed your advice and since I like to do things in what I call, the classic way, I started removing things at random whithout taking any note, so good news, I no longer have the T-Pose problem, just need to find which animation pack was the problem. Gonna post it when I found him, cause it was a sexlab mod from the SLAL anim list post in the LE part of LL
Just Don't Posted July 11, 2020 Posted July 11, 2020 27 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said: While messing the whole FNIS generation process up ? With latest FNIS version for LE, but that check is there for a reason. Sadly we might not see new updates for FNIS to fix this minor issue. 30 minutes ago, Larei said: Gonna post it when I found him, cause it was a sexlab mod from the SLAL anim list post in the LE part of LL Thing is some authors have their LE and SE files in the same download page, so it's totally possible that someone could download the wrong file by mistake. I though about this and suggested the HKX patch, which didn't detect anything. So it would be really weird if you find that one of your animation mods were for SE now, but everything is possible in the world of modding. Except being done with installing and troubleshooting mods. That never ends.
donttouchmethere Posted July 11, 2020 Posted July 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, dontknowdontcaredontask said: With latest FNIS version for LE, but that check is there for a reason. Sadly we might not see new updates for FNIS to fix this minor issue. Which means: don't use the patch for Skyrim LE ?♂️ The "minor issue" prevents FNIS generation to work right and will be a "major" issue ingame. As I understand it you wanted it use it as a tool to find SE animations, which is clever and I never thought of that, because I only get a looong list of errors. 6 hours ago, Larei said: 67 43 EstrusChaurus.esp 68 44 EstrusSpider.esp Looks to me like you miss any version of zzEstrus, which is a requirement for Estrus+. The zzEstrus.esp doesn't need to be active, but you still need the meshes and textures and animation files Would look like this: Reading zzEstrus V2.30 ... ChAnims:254(12) CTD:3,4% pOpt:0,2% A bad Estrus install can cause T Pose
Just Don't Posted July 11, 2020 Posted July 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said: Which means: don't use the patch for Skyrim LE ?♂️ The "minor issue" prevents FNIS generation to work right and will be a "major" issue ingame. As I understand it you wanted it use it as a tool to find SE animations, which is clever and I never thought of that, because I only get a looong list of errors. No. Again: this patch works in both LE and SE games. It warns if the user has any incompatible animation. In both LE and SE games. I don't know how to say it more clear. The check is broken in the last FNIS version, all the other versions prior to 7.6 worked fine in LE, and the check is intended to be used in LE or SE games. And side note: the generated files work just fine in game if the animations are truly made for LE with or without this check (tested this personally when I first became aware of this bug). But I think this discussion isn't directly related to OP issue so I'll stop.
Larei Posted July 11, 2020 Author Posted July 11, 2020 30 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said: Looks to me like you miss any version of zzEstrus, which is a requirement for Estrus+. Yeah I know, Estrus was giving me a minor consistency error in FNIS, I knew it wasn't the major error but I disabled it while tracking the main one, figures it would'nt be that much of a trouble since it's animation used only in very specific situation, I reinstalled it with my other animation. Tturns out it was the SLAL NSAP Anub and Mitos that were bugging everything, don't know which one in particular, not particulary interested in finding it, the good folks of Tamriel are no longer stuck while inserting dominance and that's all that matter for me. Thanks a bunch for all your answer !
donttouchmethere Posted July 11, 2020 Posted July 11, 2020 22 minutes ago, Larei said: Estrus was giving me a minor consistency error in FNIS that's bad 22 minutes ago, Larei said: I disabled it while tracking the main one which would make estrus+ an issue adding another probably cause for t pose 23 minutes ago, Larei said: Tturns out it was the SLAL NSAP Anub and Mitos that were bugging everything that's odd if they are from a SLAL Pack 24 minutes ago, Larei said: good folks of Tamriel are no longer stuck while inserting dominance and that's all that matter for me. Priorities! ?
Grey Cloud Posted July 11, 2020 Posted July 11, 2020 6 hours ago, dontknowdontcaredontask said: Again: this patch works in both LE and SE games. It may well work but it does not need to be ticked. If you have SE animations loaded then the output will be full of 'not Skyrim compatible' errors. If you don't have SE animations installed then it is redundant.
Grey Cloud Posted July 11, 2020 Posted July 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Larei said: SLAL NSAP Anub and Mitos that were bugging everything, don't know which one in particular, not particulary interested in finding it, In other words, user error. SLAL, Anubs and Mitos all work fine for everyone else and if you had read the description page of NSAP you would have known that it has been redundant for a couple of years or more.
Larei Posted July 11, 2020 Author Posted July 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: SLAL, Anubs and Mitos all work fine for everyone else and if you had read the description page of NSAP you would have known that it has been redundant for a couple of years or more. I know that NSAP has been redundant, that's why I didn't use it, what I used was the pack of animation for SLAL that was called "SLAL NSAP Anub" and "SLAL NSAP Mitos" that are in the list of SLAL anim pack pinned in the Sexlab Framework part of the forum and that were compiled by Tendaris, so not from the NSAP page. Since they were put in there, I thought it was non redundant anim, and other anim from Anubs and Mitos work perfectly fine.
Grey Cloud Posted July 11, 2020 Posted July 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, Larei said: I know that NSAP has been redundant, that's why I didn't use it, what I used was the pack of animation for SLAL that was called "SLAL NSAP Anub" and "SLAL NSAP Mitos" that are in the list of SLAL anim pack pinned in the Sexlab Framework part of the forum and that were compiled by Tendaris, so not from the NSAP page. Since they were put in there, I thought it was non redundant anim, and other anim from Anubs and Mitos work perfectly fine. Fair enough, I didn't know that such packs existed (and cannot understand why they exist). As far as I know, all the animations used in NSAP were incorporated into the SLAL packs so you would in effect be loading two instances of many animations. That applies to all the NSAP animations which were later incorporated into SLAL animation packs.
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