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mcone

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mcone

mcone

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Hi

In nutshell, Draugrs in my game don't sleep. No matter if i go in gun blazing or try sneaking past them - they are always awake and waiting for me. It started happening some time ago, but i didn't care then (was playing as a warrior, so no biggie). I don't know if this is caused by some mod, or failed script. Thanks for any help

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SKSE version - 1.7.3 rel 48
 

Papyrus.3.rar

Corsayr

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Possibly this mod Know Your Enemy it appears to run a patch-er to change damage type vulnerabilities and strengths. That could inadvertently change the setting that tells the Draugr to remain in a sleeping position. 

 

Just a guess though, I don't see anything else that might do that on a quick scan of your mod order. 

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у меня тоже в некоторых локациях не спят и что с того.

mcone

mcone

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@Makosh Well...in my case EVERY SINGLE ONE is awake. You can't sneak past them, because they are already waiting for you. Do you remember the quest for the Companions

where you go with Farkas to retrive piece of of Wuuthrad? And at the end the tomb you are fighting with couple of waves of draugrs? In my game they are waiting for you. Every draugr inside that room is waiting.

 

 

@Corsayr i checked - it's not that, but thanks anyway.

Corsayr

Corsayr

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2 hours ago, mcone said:

@Corsayr i checked - it's not that, but thanks anyway

How did you check? Just uninstalling might not do it because you run an xEdit patch, and that output would be "baked" into the game at that point. 

 

You would have to remove the patch and start a new game (I would think anyway)

 

The other thing you can try is you can go into TES5Edit and look in Skyrim.esm and look at Activators and find 00048DEC and see if anything is overwriting that. The right side you should only have one column for Skyrim.esm there should be no other columns and at the bottom under the reference tab there should be hundreds of references. I have like 425 but that includes mods like Hamlet Dungeons 

 

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mcone

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@Corsayr - i uninstalled it, run loot, reset archive validation (NMM) and started new game.

I checked in TES5Edit - i have only 82 references, but everything seems to be referencing the game itself. 

I attached screenshots from TES5Edit

 

@donttouchmethere - oh, thank you. I ignored it, because it didn't seem to cause any trouble. 

 

 

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Psalam

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The next time you come upon a draugr try this. Get close enough for them to hit you (so, make sure you've saved before you try this). The open the console and click on the draugr. On the right side of the information screen there will be something along the lines of "mod that last modified this." The odds are that mod is what causing your problem. It's not guaranteed but its likely.

Grey Cloud

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42 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

How do you know

When I first came across the Modern Brawl bug fix thing a few years ago I didn't bother with it because I thought that the only brawls were those like Big Uthie and the Rolf the racist which I never bother with.

Meanwhile in an alternative universe, I could never understand why the fight with the goon during the Forsworn Conspiracy quest always ended in bloodshed. ?

 

donttouchmethere

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7 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

When I first came across the Modern Brawl bug fix thing a few years ago I didn't bother with it because I thought that the only brawls were those like Big Uthie and the Rolf the racist which I never bother with.

Meanwhile in an alternative universe, I could never understand why the fight with the goon during the Forsworn Conspiracy quest always ended in bloodshed. ?

 

Same here, didn't know why bother.

 

Then there was TDF prostitution with the chance for brawls that always ended in a tavern of deaths or me in prison.

DEC added the option to start a brawl to escape NPC enslavement approaches, but the function was useless because it ended always in bloodshed.

First Brawl fix made it a bit better until USLEEP.

Modern Brawl fix solved all those issues.

 

Now Modern Brawl fix is included in the unofficial modders patch and I don't even have to care where to place it in LO anymore.

 

(The real reason I have any brawl fix was that some mod had it as recommend requirement, but that doesn't sound as cool as a conscious modding evolution :classic_ph34r:)

Grey Cloud

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2 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

TDF prostitution with the chance for brawls

That was another one I always switch off.

 

Not brawl related but the other side of the coin is Vortex. It told me that several of my mods were redundant as they were not actually doing anything and recommended disabling them. So I did and things stopped working correctly. One small example - I use El Sopa's retexture for pick axes, Vortex says it's not doing anything, I turn it off, I find my first pick axe and it's vanilla.  Brilliant.

mcone

mcone

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14 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

How do you know ?

Well, i never had any trouble with brawls, no bloodshets afterwards.

mcone

mcone

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14 hours ago, Corsayr said:

So no save game cleaner? Like Save Game script cleaner or Fallrim Tools

I started completely new game, so i thought no Save Game Cleaner is needed.

 

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Are the draugr aggressive or just awake? If they aren't aggressive then it could be something changing factions.

They are aggresive. 

 

@Here's to the most important sex organ! 

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The next time you come upon a draugr try this...

Tried it. the only thing similar to this i see is "MODname:" but it's blank. 

 

This situation is really starting to be pain in the ass. Litteraly,  for some of my characters.
 

mcone

mcone

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I hopped too soon. Draugrs still can't find their peace. Ugh, i can't play sneaky sneaky because of this :V

mcone

mcone

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18 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Did you have a look at Draugr in TESVEdit?

Yes, and i didn't found anything unusual. No strange factions or references. 

mcone

mcone

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An update. I think this whole thing with draugrs is linked to some mod or script which cause certain NPC to go full aggro on me after i unsheath my weapon.

For example:

 

- Tolsgar The Wanderer (the wandering bard) is going full aggro on when i take out my weapon (even if i'm being attacked by something)

- Kematu's Alikr's are attacking me in that bandit cave, so i can't talk to him.

- When i enter Solitude for the first time all guards, after executing the dude, go aggro on me unless i enter some building

- I managed to sneak past those draugrs in Bleak Falls Barrow (the were sleeping), but immidietly after raising my fists (i was unarmed) they all woke up.

 

Any other ideas?

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