Conflict between ZAZ 8.0 and Sexlab 6.12.

[styxertrix]

I'm experiencing a new and baffling confliction between ZAZ 8.0 and Sexlab 6.12 which has never occured before.  I've just carried out a full reinstall of Skyrim LE using ModOrganiser.

ZAZ works fine until i add sezlab, and then I no longer have any ZAZ anims working.  Devices worn have no animations played and using furniture causes a T pose until dismount, when character returns to normal pose.  I've run FNIS and Loot.  rebuilt and cleaned registry's using MCM and ticked and unticked the sexlab over ride box in ZAZ but nothing cures this problem.  Any help would be appreciated.

[Seijin8]

6 minutes ago, styxertrix said:

Sexlab 6.12

No such thing.

 

Lets start by having you post your FNIS output.

[styxertrix]

Hi Seijin8, thanks for the speedy response.  FNIS reports all anims loaded correctly and no faults or errors.

 

[styxertrix]

Just to be clear, I've had Skyrim working perfectly with ZAZ , Sexlab and assorted associated nods previously, so i know they all work, but this time somethings fubar'd.  Probably obvious, but I'm at a loss after hours of testing.

[Seijin8]

7 minutes ago, styxertrix said:

Probably obvious, but I'm at a loss after hours of testing.

If it is obvious, and you aren't catching it, then there is ZERO chance of you typing it out here.  Please post either 1) a screencap or 2) a full printout of your FNIS output, so that I and anyone else wanting to help don't have to play 20 questions.  Once we see that then we know the answer to "what skeleton are you using" and many other fun and important details that I don't want to have to ask one by one.

[styxertrix]

Ok, here's the Fnis report.  Hope it helps.

FNIS Behavior V7.5   03/02/2020 18:40:25
Skyrim 32bit: 1.9.32.0 - E:\steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\ (Steam)

Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)   male: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)
Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix"  
Patch: * rongphale's "Horsemen Mounted Combat Enh."  

Installing FNIS PCEA2
Reading FNISBase V7.5 ...
Reading FNISCreatureVersion V6.1 ...
Reading FNIS_PCEA2 V1.3 ...
Reading SexLab V1.62 ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.61 ...
Reading XPMSE V6.1 ...
Reading ZaZAnimationPack V8.00 ...
Reading ZaZAnimationPack+ V8.00 ...
Reading dcc-display-model-2 V102 ...

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files...
Alternate Animation mods: 2 sets: 45 total groups: 89 added file slots: 1144 alternate files: 721

Create Creature Behaviors ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.62 ...

 3711 animations for 9 mods successfully included (character)

 322 animations for 1 mods and 18 creatures successfully included.

 

[Uncle64]

But 115 bones?

Should it not be 129 or so?

[Seijin8]

5 hours ago, Uncle64 said:

But 115 bones?

Should it not be 129 or so?

He's using an older XPMSE.  Shouldn't be a cause for the issue he's having.

[Seijin8]

14 hours ago, styxertrix said:

Ok, here's the Fnis report.  Hope it helps.

Next, need a load order and need to know what mod manager you are using.

[styxertrix]

Thanks again for the support.  I'm using Mod Organiser 1.  Tried MO 2 but struggled with aspects of it, so went back to what worked previously. 

 

Load order:

 

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     RaceCompatibility.esm
  7  7     ApachiiHair.esm
  8  8     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
  9  9     ApachiiHairMales.esm
 10  a     SkyMoMod.esm
 11  b     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 12  c     Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
 13  d     SexLab.esm
 14  e     Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
 15  f     Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
 16 10     Extended UI.esp
 17 11     FacelightPlus.esp
 18 12     COR_AllRace.esp
 19 13     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 20 14     FISS.esp
 21 15     AMatterOfTime.esp
 22 16     IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
 23 17     RaceMenu.esp
 24 18     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 25 19     Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_v2.1.esp
 26 1a     Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
 27 1b     JZBai_PracticalFemaleArmors.esp
 28 1c     Horsemen Combat Enhancement.esp
 29 1d     iWill_ARavensBreezeHome.esp
 30 1e     Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
 31 1f     FMS_FemaleMakeupSuite.esp
 32 20     Bandanas of Skyrim.esp
 33 21     Backshields.esp
 34 22     towConversation.esp
 35 23     AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
 36 24     Perfect Legionnaire - Troops Re-equipment.esp
 37 25     Headtracking.esp
 38 26     Souls_Quick_Menu.esp
 39 27     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 40 28     CiriOutfit.esp
 41 29     BodySlotsMCM.esp
 42 2a     FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp
 43 2b     Footprints.esp
 44 2c     VioLens.esp
 45 2d     UIExtensions.esp
 46 2e     Prettier Bandits.esp
 47 2f     Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
 48 30     Nordic Ruins of Skyrim.esp
 49 31     SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
 50 32     DFB - Random Encounters.esp
 51 33     Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp
 52 34     Crimson Tide - Blood.esp
 53 35     Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
 54 36     Immersive Encounters.esp
 55 37     RiversideLodge.esp
 56 38     Populated Forts Towers Places Legendary.esp
 57 39     Immersive Wenches.esp
 58 3a     Bijin AIO.esp
 59 3b     [Dint999] KSH's HDT.esp
           Bijin NPCs.esp
           Bijin Warmaidens.esp
 60 3c     AsharaErinFollower.esp
 61 3d     MovementSpeedsFixed.esp
           PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp
 62 3e     Routa.esp
 63 3f     EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
 64 40     DeadlyMutilation.esp
 65 41     Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
 66 42     Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul Lite.esp
 67 43     Horsemen.esp
 68 44     TemptressVixen.esp
 69 45     HorseInventory.esp
 70 46     TreasureHunterGarb.esp
 71 47     My Home Is Your Home.esp
 72 48     TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp
 73 49     JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
 74 4a     SkyUI.esp
 75 4b     TimingIsEverything.esp
 76 4c     Dynamic Clothing System.esp
 77 4d     CanalHome.esp
 78 4e     Deadly Wenches.esp
 79 4f     Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp
 80 50     Imaginator BETA.esp
 81 51     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
 82 52     SkyTweak.esp
 83 53     XPMSE.esp
 84 54     Merchants have Linen updated.esp
 85 55     leia.esp
 86 56     Brows.esp
 87 57     Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
 88 58     CharacterMakingExtender.esp
 89 59     The Ningheim.esp
 90 5a     Dynamic Clothing System - Kinky Stuff.esp
 91 5b     LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp
 92 5c     LeftHandRings.esp
 93 5d     sandboxcylinderheight.esp
 94 5e     Outfit Switcher.esp
 95 5f     chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp
 96 60     PAN_NPCs.esp
 97 61     Serana.esp
 98 62     aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
 99 63     RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
100 64     Remove Smoke and Dust.esp
101 65     binding_spell.esp
102 66     Celestine.esp
103 67     HTBWigsApachiiSkyHair.esp
104 68     FNIS.esp
105 69     iActivate.esp
106 6a     zaz-craft.esp
107 6b     zarias_restraints.esp
108 6c     dcc-dm2.esp
109 6d     FNIS_PCEA2.esp
110 6e     ZAPFurniturePlacer.esp
111 6f     Convenient Horses.esp
112 70     SexLabDefeat.esp
113 71     SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp
114 72     SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
115 73     SexLab Submit.esp
116 74     Skyrim Unbound.esp

 

 

 

[Seijin8]

8 minutes ago, styxertrix said:

Load order:

 

Okay, its a longshot, but this may have something to do with the "UseVehicle" settings.  Try removing the horse mods (especially Horsemen Combat Enhancement ; untick in left pane) and re-run FNIS.  See what happens there.

 

Another thing likely unrelated: is that the old AFT you're using?  Probably not the source of this issue, but very likely a source of future problems.  iAFT is the newer version, and I'd personally recommend NFF or EFF over that.

[𝔏𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔱 1627]

It's an oddity (FNIS has detected it), either I haven't seen it or SexLab is not in the load order , maybe the plugin has turned off . 

 

XPMSE, the most updated version should give you 126 bones and not 115.

 

The load order seems a little confusing to me (I don't use MO and I don't know how it mods).

 

The order that I have always used successfully I followed it from here , at least for the important mods

 

CLAMS OF SKYRIM PROJECT Inni Outie HDT Vagina 5.6.1

 

ZAZ 8.0 immediately after FNIS Creature pack  .

 

Spoiler

FNIS
SkyUi
Uiextensions
SexLab Framework
SOS (Scholongs 3.00)
Caliente Beautiful Body Edition (CBBE) 
Bodyslide and outfit studio
XP32MSE (overwrite where required)
HDT Physics extentions (overwrite where required)
COSIO (overwrite where required)

 

SexLabTools 3.00
SexLab Aroused
More nasty critters
Hentai Creatures (optional)
Creature Framework
JContainers
SexLab Animation Loader
MatchMaker (optional)
FNIS Creature pack 1.6

 

 

[Seijin8]

39 minutes ago, Lestat1627 said:

either I haven't seen it or SexLab is not in the load order

Its number 13

39 minutes ago, Lestat1627 said:

XPMSE

Already mentioned it, the 115 is standard for versions pre 3BBB and shouldn't interfere with ZAZ animations.

40 minutes ago, Lestat1627 said:

The load order seems a little confusing to me

It does look out of whack, though I don't think that will cause animation issues of this sort.  On the other hand, might be worth checking if anything from ZAZ is being overwritten.

 

[styxertrix]

Ok, so I made all the suggested changes that Lestat1627 and Seijin8 made and everything seems to be functioning again apart from followers and player not playing anims when equiped with ZAZ gear.

 

Many thanks for the forebarence and help.

[𝔏𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔱 1627]

19 hours ago, styxertrix said:

player not playing anims when equiped with ZAZ gear.

Maybe this could solve the problem. It is for CBBE

 

Zaz Animation Pack 8.0 Helper Addon 1.0.2