msex Fort Slavery

[YumiChan19]

 

 if you are having trouble making npc approach the player you could take a peak at loogies tryout coding because he made approach chance adjustable in MCM. Maybe send him a message and see if he will let you snag his coding for your mod or just ask him for help on the subject

 

No, having them approach the player works fine.

 

The problem is letting the player talk to them.  The usual method of adding a top-level topic doesn't work.

 

 

if i am understanding you, you want want npc to have dialogue when the player talks to them? incorporate smaller talk into the mod should work for that

 

on a side note I would love it if you added an approach chance slider for the npc approach chance that we could adjust in the MCM

[janoorn]

i dont know if this is intendet, but the charisma check only works if you have an exact charisma of 8 so if you have 9 oder 10 (i boostet it with mentats was totally confused) it does not work

[Riggswolfe]

I wonder if this mod "Ceaser's New Regime" would work with msexFort:

 

http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/Mods/45557/?tab=3&navtag=/ajax/comments/?thread_id=596730|:|mod_id=45557

[snakeleafclover]

I wonder if this mod "Ceaser's New Regime" would work with msexFort:

 

http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/Mods/45557/?tab=3&navtag=/ajax/comments/?thread_id=596730|:|mod_id=45557

 

 

It just gives legion new clothes.

 

Doesnt effect the msexFort in any way.

 

Works fine.

[Riggswolfe]

 

I wonder if this mod "Ceaser's New Regime" would work with msexFort:

 

http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/Mods/45557/?tab=3&navtag=/ajax/comments/?thread_id=596730|:|mod_id=45557

 

 

It just gives legion new clothes.

 

Doesnt effect the msexFort in any way.

 

Works fine.

 

I thought it added a new area, a new vendor, and a Legion follower as well?

[snakeleafclover]

 

 

I thought it added a new area, a new vendor, and a Legion follower as well?

 

 

Oh. That i didnt know. Never came across any of them though.

 

It doesnt clash though.

[Loveryus]

Is there a way to get rid of Marissa's Wrath? My char got released from slavery, but still wears Marissa's wrath and I can't unequip it. Marissa and the slave my char punished for water have disappeared somehow after my chars whipping. If someone knows the console command to get rid of that strap-on please let me know.

[YumiChan19]

Is there a way to get rid of Marissa's Wrath? My char got released from slavery, but still wears Marissa's wrath and I can't unequip it. Marissa and the slave my char punished for water have disappeared somehow after my chars whipping. If someone knows the console command to get rid of that strap-on please let me know.

 

 

that issue is from the legion part of loogies tryout not this mod

[cih]

Hello,

 

I have hard time triggering the permaslavery. (also a bit of a bug report and few suggestions)

 

 

I got enslaved, talked with Vulpes and slept with the required numer of Legionaires. After that there are no new options for dialogue with Vulpes.

 

For the bugs:

1) I noticed sometimes Legionaires are raping the PC and when it happens the collar and the slave rags are disappearing from the inventory. (if the PC has volunteer sex with Legionaiers the collar gets stripped and reequipped after, if its permanantly on it will be more RP friendly )

2) Sometimes the aftter-sex-dialogue is triggering before the actual sex scene (I remember you mentioned you was having problems with making it work correctly and I guess that was the behaviour you had problems with :/).

 

Suggestions:

1) Repeatedly drinking piss should have different text. Since you added this path maybe expand on it as well, adding the PC's oppinion to the matter and reacting accordingly (like or dislike of it)

2) I really think the player isn't involved enough in the initial molestation at cottonwood cove - more dialogues for flavour. Also maybe some more foreshadowing text and pop-ups could be nice.

 

3) Why not involve the dogs in the fort in some fun or show for the Legionaires.

 

 

Maybe I have said it before but saying it again never hurts. Love this mod and want to see it expanded with many much content.

 

cih

[Mavia]

Hi, cih.  There are a few conditions on Vulpes' dialog, and I can't really guess what's going on, so would you be willing to check some variables in the console? 

 

The syntax is tricky, sorry: printc "%.0f" "XX003027".slavefucks

 

where XX should be msexFort's order code from Fallout Mod Manager.  In addition to slavefucks, please test permtest, trapped, and questor.  All three of these should be 1.  (The slavefucks variable should some high number.)

 

Hmm, if trapped is 0, it means you got freed by the slavers-- in that case you should have got a message as you left the slave pen.  If that's what happened, I'll have to make it clearer that that will remove the permaslavery option.

 

I should work on Cottonwood Cove more. 

 

With the slave collar, that's strange.  I add it to SexoutNGSafeClothesF and so it shouldn't be removed by Sexout.  I'll have to check that out.

 

On dogs, sorry, that's not one of my many kinks.

 

 

[YumiChan19]

Another issue with perma-slavery is that upon loading a save that i was perma enslaved by vulpes and outside the fort my head has exploded

 

you could make it so vulpes approaches you if you have enough legion reputation points regardless of being enslaved the regular way and tells you that if you are going to continue to aid the legion you need to learn your station, slaps a collar on you and explains that women in the legion are slaves no matter what they are doing. And that you can still aid the legion but you must wear the collar to signify what you are.

[cih]

Hi,

 

I tried to get the variable numbers but the game crashed every time. Might be my totaly messed up install. I'll give you a bit more info on what I was doing though.

 

 

1) I got enslaved at Cottonwood Cove

2) I got fucked by the Slavetrainers till I was told (by a pop-up) that the door is unlocked

3) Went stright to Vulpe, a dialogue triggered through smallertalk (not directly with NPC) and a sex scene involving him and the other NPC (dont recall name atm).

4) Went around and fucked some more.

5) Went back into the "Slave Pen" and a pop-up appeared stating I have fucked enough and I am free now.

6) Went back to Vulpe and no new dialogues appeared.

 

 

I might have used save that is from older version though, too many saves. I have a bit more time this weekend and will try to play it through again from the begining. One more question and one more bug

 

 

FIrst, sometimes in the slave pen, the trainers disappear. One time both disappeared and I was stuck with no way to move out.

I couldn't get enslaved while being clothed. I know most likely it is couse of bad RNG but just wanted to mention it.

 

 

 

One more thing about the disappearing collar. I have/had a weird bug with one version of some of the main files where some armors were disappearing. It was fixed after some updates so, it might be something else not related to your work.

 

cih

[Mavia]

OK.  Yeah, step 5, you were freed, which closes the permaslave option.  I should make that clearer, maybe give a choice.

 

 

 

 

[dizzyman]

For me, (I think) whenever a Legionary said something about my PC having sex with Siri, it was them that went on to do it instead (even if Siri was in a different cell).

The issue with the Legionary masturbating after saying something like "Now you're talking, spread those legs for me" is an actor selection issue I believe.  Says something like: Actor A = Legionary, then Actor A = nothing; no Actor B.

I've been investigating a mod conflict or 2 but haven't pinned it down, yet (suspect A World Of Pain); seemed to be causing scanner problems resulting in little to no approaches from most NPCs, or just less frequent with some (like the reliable Slavemasters).

Also failed to trigger permanent slavery on several attempts, though only one of those was after receiving Mark of Caeser.  Tried those console commands but only slavefucks and trapped ever returned a 1.  Could always access the "They're treating me like a slave..." dialog option with Vulpes (unless freed of course), which would result in double-team oral rape and Lucius saying "Gratifying you accept your role in life" but nothing else happened before or after quota met.  Sounds like collar may explode later anyway though, so I'm gonna wait n see if a new version of this gets released.

 

Maybe forgetting some things.  Think some of the dialog would benefit from some polish/tweaking/additional options.

Lot of good stuff in this mod, hope it gets finished.

 

Edit: Looks like I wasn't using the latest version.  Might want to remove that file attachment with the old version.

[cih]

Hello,

 

I was supposed to have time during the weekend and this didn't happened so I couldn't really play it through, but turn out I wasn't using the latest version of this mod (though I am sure I downloaded it after Mavia said she implemented permanent slavery). Now a new text line appeared for Vulpe's dialogue (something like, "I want to be a spy as well as slave", to which he responds with "you are not broken enough" or stuff like this). I believe it will all work out fine for me now.

 

I experienced similar issues like dizzyman (Siri doing it with the arena-master instead of the PC, "masturbating" legionaires), but I don't have any of the mods he mentioned. Though, updating the mod's files added the dialogue line i mentioned above.

 

Appology for the false alarm that something is wrong. Hopefully I will have time in the next weekend to play it through and give you some feedback on it.

 

cih

 

 

[Makumba666]

Can not run this mod, it destroys my main menu. I have msexVeronica installed and it seems to work, but as soon as I try to add this or msexcourtesan my main menu disappears.  Any advices?

[drazil]

I've had a similar problem with the MCM menu dissapearing once this mod is installed.

[Destynova99]

Can not run this mod, it destroys my main menu. I have msexVeronica installed and it seems to work, but as soon as I try to add this or msexcourtesan my main menu disappears.  Any advices?

 

Have you tried loading the MCM mod below all the mods that add to it?

[Makumba666]

Have you tried loading the MCM mod below all the mods that add to it?

Yes, I've tried to change it's position. No matter I load MCM right after esm files, or load as a last plug-in - if msexfort or msexcourtesan selected, there is no main menu. 

[Destynova99]

Do you use Project Nevada - Extra Options? There's an MCM scripting error in the latest version that could be the culprit, though usually it just makes random MCM entries disappear. There's a patch that someone else put up on Nexus though, if you search for project nevada mcm you'll find it. If it's not that then I don't know, it might be a scripting error in this mod that's minor enough to slip by unnoticed most of the time.

[Makumba666]

Do you use Project Nevada - Extra Options? There's an MCM scripting error in the latest version that could be the culprit, though usually it just makes random MCM entries disappear. There's a patch that someone else put up on Nexus though, if you search for project nevada mcm you'll find it. If it's not that then I don't know, it might be a scripting error in this mod that's minor enough to slip by unnoticed most of the time.

No, I am not using mods like PN.   

[YumiChan19]

Mavia,

 

To clear up some bugs with slavery you could make it so vulpes approaches you if you have enough legion reputation points and tells you that if you are going to continue to aid the legion you need to learn your station, slaps a collar on you and explains that women in the legion are slaves no matter what they are doing. And that you can still aid the legion but you must wear the collar to signify what you are. And have the temporary slavery run separate from the permanent one.

 

Dialogue example:

 

Vulpes - (approaches player) greetings, the mighty Caesar has tasked me with informing you of our rules.

 

Player - What rules?

 

Vulpes - The roll of women in the legion is that of a slave, you service us with your body and follow commands given to you. if you are to continue to aid us you must know your place. You must dress and act according to your station. (shows slave collar and rags)

 

Player - I accept my roll within the legion (permanent slavery)

 

Player - I reject your way of life (loss in legion reputation)

[leseras]

Hmm I'm back to trying this mod. While enslaved, I try to get perma enslaved by talking to both vulpes and lucius but neither seems to work.

[something wicked]

Hmm I'm back to trying this mod. While enslaved, I try to get perma enslaved by talking to both vulpes and lucius but neither seems to work.

 

 

I have the same problem. My conversation with them are something like "they treat me like slave" and "hey, want some fun?" and only Vulpes has the former. When freed, my only relevant comment is asking Vulpes why legion treat woman like slave.

 

I have tried the identify the variables with console but unsurprisingly the game crashes.

 

Also, I don't know if it is normal but everyone still treat my player as slave, approaching for sex, even Siri does that.

 

I have checked on the GECK but couldn't find where is the permaslavery script is either.

 

Just for curious, I saw some of Siri's line which supposely happen if PC voluntarily have sex with her and she state she is no lesbian. Another one is supposely the lessons those slavemaster did. I didn't find the triggering dialogue so does it mean my progress is somewhat crashed or bugged?

[janoorn]

hey

dont know if youre still working on this 

and appreciate some ideas (disregard this post if you dont oder dislike my idea)

 

how about this for the permaslavery:

 

master will be assigned (either someone existing or a newly created character)
legion slave can only be gone for X days (she will have to ask upfront if she can go for x days) until she has to report to a legion (/her master) (maybe she has to serve x legions to be able to go for x days or do sth else to "buy" her beeing able to walk around freely)
if she is gone longer, the master(a legion) will come to her, take her back to the fort and punish her (or even put her in the slave pen again for new training cause she disobeyed)
(for that its probably easier if the master is newly created, in all factions and wears something neutral (a merchant disguise) so he can go anywhere without being killed / attacked)