The Ancient Profession 2024-06-24

[ruddycray]

1 hour ago, triponbush said:

Potential problem on my side with The Sybil's Homecoming. I have The great town of Karthwasten installed. When we enter Fjotra's house I see the dialogue for her mother and her new husband (father died in save). They go through their dialogue and then just stand and do nothing. I presume either Fjotra has to intervene or there is a sex scene between the parents, but nothing happens.

 

Yes, someone else mentioned this a few posts back.

 

Unfortunately, the mod breaks something in TAP and will require a compatibility patch. Most likely, the patch would just need to move some markers for where everyone is supposed to stand. The couple is not supposed to be speaking to each other from different floors of the house.

[rongeurdos]

Hi, because a fight when i'd follow him, Vanikesh is stuking on his way to his home... Looks like he's lost his pathway. How can i force him to find his home?

[xLLUser]

So I'm on the quest "The Defiler" and am having some pretty major issues (I think because of Northern Roads editing the area around the shrine?).

Spoilers for "The Defiler":

 

Spoiler

After speaking with Mother Hamal and heading over to the shrine nothing seems to work. If I approach Corvus and the quest marker at the shrine nothing happens, tried running around the area and using TCL to go under the map in case the shrine had just been slightly moved by Northern Roads leaving the trigger for the quest to continue somewhere else. No luck. Corvus has no dialogue options other than the standard prostitution one and never masturbates like he's supposed to.

If I set the quest stage to 200 through the console I can ask him if he was masturbating and why (it progresses to stage 300 on it's own here just fine), then try to convince him to stop but even if I tell him he should be with a priestess I don't get the option to say I am a novice, so it can't progress from there.

If I then set the stage to 400 he confesses as if I had offered to sleep with him and I can finish the quest that way, but obviously missing some dialogue and the sex scene itself.

If I do manually set stage to 200, speak with him as normal trying to convince him to stop but then attack him until he surrenders I can finish the quest that way and still get all the dialogue without having to use console commands any more.

I'm past the quest now but if anyone else has this issue is there a way to still get the full quest to trigger by changing variables in the console at certain stages or something? Also do you think this is caused by Northern Roads or another mod changing the area around the shrine? Because if that's not it I have no clue why it wouldn't work, every other quest from this mod I've done in this playthrough has worked perfectly.

 

Anyway, thanks for all your work on this update! This mod is genuinely one of the best I've tried.

[ruddycray]

5 hours ago, rongeurdos said:

Hi, because a fight when i'd follow him, Vanikesh is stuking on his way to his home... Looks like he's lost his pathway. How can i force him to find his home?

 

Worst case, you can teleport to the workroom and then teleport him to you. See this post for how to do that.

 

[ruddycray]

2 hours ago, xLLUser said:

So I'm on the quest "The Defiler" and am having some pretty major issues (I think because of Northern Roads editing the area around the shrine?).

Spoilers for "The Defiler":

 

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After speaking with Mother Hamal and heading over to the shrine nothing seems to work. If I approach Corvus and the quest marker at the shrine nothing happens, tried running around the area and using TCL to go under the map in case the shrine had just been slightly moved by Northern Roads leaving the trigger for the quest to continue somewhere else. No luck. Corvus has no dialogue options other than the standard prostitution one and never masturbates like he's supposed to.

If I set the quest stage to 200 through the console I can ask him if he was masturbating and why (it progresses to stage 300 on it's own here just fine), then try to convince him to stop but even if I tell him he should be with a priestess I don't get the option to say I am a novice, so it can't progress from there.

If I then set the stage to 400 he confesses as if I had offered to sleep with him and I can finish the quest that way, but obviously missing some dialogue and the sex scene itself.

If I do manually set stage to 200, speak with him as normal trying to convince him to stop but then attack him until he surrenders I can finish the quest that way and still get all the dialogue without having to use console commands any more.

I'm past the quest now but if anyone else has this issue is there a way to still get the full quest to trigger by changing variables in the console at certain stages or something? Also do you think this is caused by Northern Roads or another mod changing the area around the shrine? Because if that's not it I have no clue why it wouldn't work, every other quest from this mod I've done in this playthrough has worked perfectly.

 

Anyway, thanks for all your work on this update! This mod is genuinely one of the best I've tried.

 

It's very possible that mods that edit the cell will break the quest. The best I can really suggest right now is to make sure that TAP is later in your load order than the mod that edits it. Otherwise, it may require a compatibility patch.

 

I will make a note for myself to look at other ways to detect when the player is approaching the shrine, but the way that I chose required editing the cell, which is prone to getting overwritten by other mods.

[xLLUser]

22 minutes ago, ruddycray said:

 

It's very possible that mods that edit the cell will break the quest. The best I can really suggest right now is to make sure that TAP is later in your load order than the mod that edits it. Otherwise, it may require a compatibility patch.

 

I will make a note for myself to look at other ways to detect when the player is approaching the shrine, but the way that I chose required editing the cell, which is prone to getting overwritten by other mods.

Fair enough! I should have mentioned this but I did try loading TAP at the bottom of the same loadorder in a copy of that mod organizer profile, that didn't seem to make a difference.

[ruddycray]

22 minutes ago, xLLUser said:

Fair enough! I should have mentioned this but I did try loading TAP at the bottom of the same loadorder in a copy of that mod organizer profile, that didn't seem to make a difference.

 

If I get a few minutes, I may try to run with that mod and see if I can figure out what might be causing it not to work.

[ruddycray]

12 hours ago, xLLUser said:

Fair enough! I should have mentioned this but I did try loading TAP at the bottom of the same loadorder in a copy of that mod organizer profile, that didn't seem to make a difference.

 

I tried with Northern Roads installed, and the quest behaved normally for me. I didn't check my load order, but this suggests that either load order is a possible solution or your problem is caused by something else entirely.

[xLLUser]

2 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

I tried with Northern Roads installed, and the quest behaved normally for me. I didn't check my load order, but this suggests that either load order is a possible solution or your problem is caused by something else entirely.

Huh well then I've got no idea what the issue might be. Maybe TAP Interiors? Seems odd it would affect that quest in particular in any way and I'm using the updated version so idk

[theblindbat]

Not sure if this has been requested previously, but could you possibly add the same teleport to bed when working an inn (with bed rented) as happens in a brothel? That would be greatly appreciated. The bed in an inn with a loft can give the client quite a problem pathing up since the player's bed is upstairs.

 

Thanks for everything so far! Your mod has so much potential for the working girl scenario compared to the standard mods that already exist.

[ruddycray]

8 hours ago, xLLUser said:

Huh well then I've got no idea what the issue might be. Maybe TAP Interiors? Seems odd it would affect that quest in particular in any way and I'm using the updated version so idk

 

I can't absolutely rule anything out, but I doubt that TAP Interiors would be to blame here. At the time I tested with Northern Roads I also had TAP Interiors active, and the cell that could be a problem here is an exterior cell. To my knowledge TAP Interiors doesn't do anything with the wayshrine.

[ruddycray]

5 hours ago, theblindbat said:

Not sure if this has been requested previously, but could you possibly add the same teleport to bed when working an inn (with bed rented) as happens in a brothel? That would be greatly appreciated. The bed in an inn with a loft can give the client quite a problem pathing up since the player's bed is upstairs.

 

Thanks for everything so far! Your mod has so much potential for the working girl scenario compared to the standard mods that already exist.

 

That should be possible. I'll add it to my list.

[k.dry]

so I'm having a hard time completing certain quests. I get the objectives popping up but when scenes are meant to play the npcs don't move. the main one that I couldn't get to work was the art of female love one. everything was working up until eliana is supposed to introduce me. I tried resetting them but it didn't do anything. I'm pretty sure everything is installed ok but maybe I'm missing something??

[crimdem]

TAP don't see my character as nude, making it impossible to do quest where nudity is required. I beleive I have a mod that apply''s an effect  by equipping an invisible armor or it's my race menu tattoo's. Could you possibly put a nudity overide in the MCM, or something like that. Thanks for the hard work.

 

[ruddycray]

1 hour ago, k.dry said:

so I'm having a hard time completing certain quests. I get the objectives popping up but when scenes are meant to play the npcs don't move. the main one that I couldn't get to work was the art of female love one. everything was working up until eliana is supposed to introduce me. I tried resetting them but it didn't do anything. I'm pretty sure everything is installed ok but maybe I'm missing something??

 

She won't introduce you until all of the guests are sitting. There should be 8 of them. Have they all sat down?

[ruddycray]

28 minutes ago, crimdem said:

TAP don't see my character as nude, making it impossible to do quest where nudity is required. I beleive I have a mod that apply''s an effect  by equipping an invisible armor or it's my race menu tattoo's. Could you possibly put a nudity overide in the MCM, or something like that. Thanks for the hard work.

 

 

I'll look into the idea.

[xtrange988]

3 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

I can't absolutely rule anything out, but I doubt that TAP Interiors would be to blame here. At the time I tested with Northern Roads I also had TAP Interiors active, and the cell that could be a problem here is an exterior cell. To my knowledge TAP Interiors doesn't do anything with the wayshrine.

 

Besides the cells where the brothels are and a few cosmetic additions to Vanikseth lair exterior, there's nothing touched. No navmesh alterations for Vanikseth either and I clean the mod for every update, so it's very unlikely.

[hardenedavocado]

Is there a way to just make your character a succubus through console commands? After seeing what you have to do to become one, I refuse to do the quest to eventually become one.

[ruddycray]

24 minutes ago, hardenedavocado said:

Is there a way to just make your character a succubus through console commands? After seeing what you have to do to become one, I refuse to do the quest to eventually become one.

 

The quest is hardly difficult, but yes it is possible. You need to start the tapqsuccubus quest and add the absorb spell. Then set the MCM option to only require 1 soul to become a succubus. Then use the absorb spell when having sex with someone. I don't remember the ID of the spell and can't look it up right now.

 

Alternatively you can just pass the time between Vanikseth quests by using set gamehour to 24 a few times.

[hardenedavocado]

7 minutes ago, ruddycray said:

 

The quest is hardly difficult, but yes it is possible. You need to start the tapqsuccubus quest and add the absorb spell. Then set the MCM option to only require 1 soul to become a succubus. Then use the absorb spell when having sex with someone. I don't remember the ID of the spell and can't look it up right now.

 

Alternatively you can just pass the time between Vanikseth quests by using set gamehour to 24 a few times.

I appreciate the quick response. But it's not the fact that it's difficult, it's just the matter of actually reaching that point that makes me not wanna do it the legit way. 

[ruddycray]

49 minutes ago, hardenedavocado said:

I appreciate the quick response. But it's not the fact that it's difficult, it's just the matter of actually reaching that point that makes me not wanna do it the legit way. 

 

You just made it sound arduous

 

I hear you, though. I've got it on my list to allow becoming a succubus earlier in the quest line already. It's just not felt important enough to make it a top priority.

[hardenedavocado]

20 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

You just made it sound arduous

 

I hear you, though. I've got it on my list to allow becoming a succubus earlier in the quest line already. It's just not felt important enough to make it a top priority.

This might be more work than you were possibly intending, but have you considered possibly making it its own questline or possibly just an alternate way of becoming a succubus?

[ruddycray]

4 hours ago, hardenedavocado said:

This might be more work than you were possibly intending, but have you considered possibly making it its own questline or possibly just an alternate way of becoming a succubus?

 

It already is its own quest line. It's 4 short quests, and becoming a succubus is a direct consequence of something you get out of the quest line that will probably not come up in any other quest lines. The only downside of it I see is the time between them, so it takes about 15 game days before you can become one.

 

I have two planned changes. One is to allow convincing Vanikseth to give you the spell immediately. The other is an MCM option to become a succubus right away. I don't have a timeline for when these will happen, because they will require dialogue changes to the existing quests.

 

Edit: Actually, I have 3 planned changes. I also have an item in my list to give an MCM option for reducing the time between the quests.

Edited May 5, 2023 by ruddycray

[Megaguardain]

So, I've brought Gwynona back to the Markarth Temple and Hamal has sent me out to the shrine between Markarth and Whiterun. Am I supposed to get a quest in my journal for this or did I do something wrong? I went to the shrine by Old Hroldan Inn and there's nothing there from what I can tell. No NPCs, just the random items and gold.

[jesternario]

On the morthal ghost quest. I've followed the trail and talked to the ghost (which was in front of another mod, amusingly enough). I am now searching for her father's house, which is in Rorikstead. I talk to the people there, and they say they will mark the house on my map, but they do not, and I've checked all around the mountains where they indicated and there is no house. Do I need to reinstall or something?