Guest Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 So I'll start up the game, go down to load, choose my save, wait through a loading screen for a couple minutes then the game suddenly CTDs this happens with all my save's and I've been working on fixing it all day and can't figure out the cause here is my load order: Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 SexLab.esm 7 7 SexLabAroused.esm 8 8 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 9 9 ApachiiHair.esm 10 a AzarHair.esm 11 b RaceCompatibility.esm 12 c hdtHighHeel.esm 13 d BSAssets.esm 14 e BSHeartland.esm 15 f BS_DLC_patch.esp 16 10 SkyMoMod.esm 17 11 Campfire.esm 18 12 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 19 13 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 20 14 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 21 15 daymoyl.esm 22 16 BeeingFemale.esm 23 17 CreatureFramework.esm 24 18 RSkyrimChildren.esm 25 19 WM Flora Fixes.esp 26 1a SharedSeranaDialogue.esm 27 1b Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 28 1c Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm 29 1d Amputator.esm 30 1e Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm 31 1f Cutting Room Floor.esp Erza.esp 32 20 almalexia regalia.esp 33 21 FNIS.esp 34 22 XPMSE.esp 35 23 SOSRaceMenu.esp 36 24 SLAnimLoader.esp 37 25 Daedric Mage Armor.esp 38 26 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 39 27 ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp 40 28 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 41 29 DarkManeuvers.esp 42 2a SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 43 2b Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 44 2c RLO - Interiors.esp 45 2d CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 46 2e Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 47 2f Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp 48 30 ESOimports.esp 49 31 Book Covers Skyrim.esp 50 32 TechnicolorAlchemy.esp 51 33 Immersive Jewelry.esp 52 34 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 53 35 RelicsofHyruleDragonborn.esp 54 36 RLO - Exteriors.esp 55 37 iWill_ARavensBreezeHome.esp 56 38 xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp 57 39 Undeath.esp LKVM by Nimee - Part I.esp 58 3a Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp 59 3b Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 60 3c ogCannibalDraugr.esp 61 3d Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp 62 3e KS Hairdo's.esp 63 3f Lupine_ZiovendianBodypaints.esp 64 40 CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp 65 41 CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp 66 42 SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp 67 43 WNB_WeatheredNordicBodypaints.esp 68 44 Eyes of Aber.esp 69 45 LindsMerEyes.esp 70 46 LindsHumanEyes.esp CannabisUpdate.esp 71 47 Better Skill and Quest Books Names.esp 72 48 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 73 49 Sons of Skyrim Only.esp 74 4a Legionettes.esp 75 4b RaceMenu - Norse Tattoos.esp 76 4c KJ Tattoos 2K.esp 77 4d IxumsTattoos.esp 78 4e BS-TheHag_WarPaints.esp 79 4f RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp 80 50 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 81 51 TelMithryn-Magical-Clutter-1.0.esp 82 52 prettypotions.esp 83 53 Artifact Disenchanting.esp 84 54 MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp 85 55 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 86 56 hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp 87 57 Dr_Bandolier.esp 88 58 MoreNastyCritters.esp 89 59 Druidessentials.esp 90 5a Immersive Weapons.esp 91 5b mihailrusticweaponspack.esp 92 5c ZIA_Complete Pack.esp 93 5d Artifact Disenchanting - Dragonborn.esp 94 5e MorrowindImports.esp 95 5f BSHeartland - Meshes.esp 96 60 BSHeartland - Textures.esp 97 61 RLO - Effects.esp 98 62 RLO - CRF Patch.esp 99 63 SkyMoMod Extras Collectables.esp 100 64 BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp 101 65 Undeath Immersive Lichdom V3.esp 102 66 RaceMenu.esp 103 67 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 104 68 UIExtensions.esp 105 69 AddItemMenuLE.esp 106 6a One With Nature - DG+DB.esp 107 6b SkyUI.esp 108 6c SexLabMatchMaker.esp 109 6d Drelas Reborn Dragonborn.esp 110 6e animal_mansion_redux.esp lozconjureherooftime.esp 111 6f RSChildren.esp LKVM by Nimee - Part II.esp 112 70 Daedric Entity Restoration Project.esp 113 71 sanguinesDebauchery.esp 114 72 ESOimports - Dragonborn.esp 115 73 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp 116 74 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 117 75 Dwarfsphere.esp 118 76 Fenrir.esp 119 77 Run For Your Lives.esp 120 78 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 121 79 Bandit_Honeypot.esp 122 7a zDeadlyPleasures.esp 123 7b mihailspectres.esp 124 7c Colorful_Magic.esp 125 7d Cum Alchemy.esp 126 7e Schlongs of Skyrim.esp konahrik_accoutrements.esp 127 7f ESOimports - 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USLEEP.esp 171 ab BDIC.esp 172 ac HornyWerewolves.esp 173 ad SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp 174 ae SpousesEnhanced_Serana.esp 175 af SilencedPrisoners.esp 176 b0 Bruma CACO 2 Legendary.esp 177 b1 more plants all extra.esp 178 b2 Immersive Speechcraft.esp RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp 179 b3 WondersofWeather.esp 180 b4 natsuno.esp 181 b5 SOS - Electra's Secret Addon.esp 182 b6 SOS - Leito Addon.esp 183 b7 Neithteam Warpaint.esp 184 b8 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp 185 b9 DudestiaOutfitChanger.esp 186 ba DragonCombatDialogue.esp 187 bb Baraban-Steel-Helms.esp 188 bc Baraban-Steel-Plate.esp 189 bd Baraban-Dawnguard-Plate.esp 190 be DIS_Iron_Legion.esp 191 bf SlaveTats.esp 192 c0 SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp 193 c1 SC_Mouth.esp 194 c2 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp 195 c3 KaiSFemaleHHDT.esp 196 c4 SOS - Pubic Hair for Females Addon.esp 197 c5 DeadlyDragons.esp 198 c6 Andromeda.esp 199 c7 The Witch's Festival.esp 200 c8 Wrath Of Nature.esp 201 c9 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 202 ca ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp 203 cb MeekoReborn.esp 204 cc warmagearmor.esp 205 cd ClassicClasses.esp Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp 206 ce SD Patches.esp 207 cf QuaranirsGift.esp 208 d0 Bend Will.esp 209 d1 EorlundSellsAncientNordArmor.esp 210 d2 Soulmaster Unlimited.esp 211 d3 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 212 d4 BFA_CreatureChildActors_V+DG+DB.esp 213 d5 Abundant Enchantments.esp 214 d6 HothFollower UFO Patch.esp 215 d7 SexLabDefeat.esp 216 d8 SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp 217 d9 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp 218 da Devious Devices - Equip.esp 219 db PetCollar.esp 220 dc BeeingFemale_RS_Patch.esp 221 dd Slug Follower.esp 222 de Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 223 df CWIOrdinatorPatch.esp 224 e0 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 225 e1 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 226 e2 RDO - iAFT Patch.esp 227 e3 RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp 228 e4 RDO - CACO Patch.esp Immersive Citizens - RRR patch.esp 229 e5 RLO - IC Patch.esp Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp 230 e6 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 231 e7 da_alternate_start_extension.esp 232 e8 ccas_starts.esp
Seijin8 Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, ClockworkTower said: So I'll start up the game, go down to load, choose my save, wait through a loading screen for a couple minutes then the game suddenly CTDs this happens with all my save's and I've been working on fixing it all day and can't figure out the cause here is my load order: Reveal hidden contents 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 SexLab.esm 7 7 SexLabAroused.esm 8 8 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 9 9 ApachiiHair.esm 10 a AzarHair.esm 11 b RaceCompatibility.esm 12 c hdtHighHeel.esm 13 d BSAssets.esm 14 e BSHeartland.esm 15 f BS_DLC_patch.esp 16 10 SkyMoMod.esm 17 11 Campfire.esm 18 12 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 19 13 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 20 14 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 21 15 daymoyl.esm 22 16 BeeingFemale.esm 23 17 CreatureFramework.esm 24 18 RSkyrimChildren.esm 25 19 WM Flora Fixes.esp 26 1a SharedSeranaDialogue.esm 27 1b Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 28 1c Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm 29 1d Amputator.esm 30 1e Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm 31 1f Cutting Room Floor.esp Erza.esp 32 20 almalexia regalia.esp 33 21 FNIS.esp 34 22 XPMSE.esp 35 23 SOSRaceMenu.esp 36 24 SLAnimLoader.esp 37 25 Daedric Mage Armor.esp 38 26 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 39 27 ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp 40 28 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 41 29 DarkManeuvers.esp 42 2a SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 43 2b Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 44 2c RLO - Interiors.esp 45 2d CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 46 2e Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 47 2f Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp 48 30 ESOimports.esp 49 31 Book Covers Skyrim.esp 50 32 TechnicolorAlchemy.esp 51 33 Immersive Jewelry.esp 52 34 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 53 35 RelicsofHyruleDragonborn.esp 54 36 RLO - Exteriors.esp 55 37 iWill_ARavensBreezeHome.esp 56 38 xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp 57 39 Undeath.esp LKVM by Nimee - Part I.esp 58 3a Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp 59 3b Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 60 3c ogCannibalDraugr.esp 61 3d Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp 62 3e KS Hairdo's.esp 63 3f Lupine_ZiovendianBodypaints.esp 64 40 CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp 65 41 CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp 66 42 SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp 67 43 WNB_WeatheredNordicBodypaints.esp 68 44 Eyes of Aber.esp 69 45 LindsMerEyes.esp 70 46 LindsHumanEyes.esp CannabisUpdate.esp 71 47 Better Skill and Quest Books Names.esp 72 48 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 73 49 Sons of Skyrim Only.esp 74 4a Legionettes.esp 75 4b RaceMenu - Norse Tattoos.esp 76 4c KJ Tattoos 2K.esp 77 4d IxumsTattoos.esp 78 4e BS-TheHag_WarPaints.esp 79 4f RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp 80 50 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 81 51 TelMithryn-Magical-Clutter-1.0.esp 82 52 prettypotions.esp 83 53 Artifact Disenchanting.esp 84 54 MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp 85 55 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 86 56 hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp 87 57 Dr_Bandolier.esp 88 58 MoreNastyCritters.esp 89 59 Druidessentials.esp 90 5a Immersive Weapons.esp 91 5b mihailrusticweaponspack.esp 92 5c ZIA_Complete Pack.esp 93 5d Artifact Disenchanting - Dragonborn.esp 94 5e MorrowindImports.esp 95 5f BSHeartland - Meshes.esp 96 60 BSHeartland - Textures.esp 97 61 RLO - Effects.esp 98 62 RLO - CRF Patch.esp 99 63 SkyMoMod Extras Collectables.esp 100 64 BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp 101 65 Undeath Immersive Lichdom V3.esp 102 66 RaceMenu.esp 103 67 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 104 68 UIExtensions.esp 105 69 AddItemMenuLE.esp 106 6a One With Nature - DG+DB.esp 107 6b SkyUI.esp 108 6c SexLabMatchMaker.esp 109 6d Drelas Reborn Dragonborn.esp 110 6e animal_mansion_redux.esp lozconjureherooftime.esp 111 6f RSChildren.esp LKVM by Nimee - Part II.esp 112 70 Daedric Entity Restoration Project.esp 113 71 sanguinesDebauchery.esp 114 72 ESOimports - Dragonborn.esp 115 73 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp 116 74 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 117 75 Dwarfsphere.esp 118 76 Fenrir.esp 119 77 Run For Your Lives.esp 120 78 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 121 79 Bandit_Honeypot.esp 122 7a zDeadlyPleasures.esp 123 7b mihailspectres.esp 124 7c Colorful_Magic.esp 125 7d Cum Alchemy.esp 126 7e Schlongs of Skyrim.esp konahrik_accoutrements.esp 127 7f ESOimports - Dawnguard.esp 128 80 More Lore-Friendly Soul Gems.esp CWIRLSPatchLegendary.esp 129 81 Immersive Followers.esp 130 82 SofiaFollower.esp 131 83 CompanionValfar.esp 132 84 Arcanum.esp 133 85 MiraakFollower.esp 134 86 CWIMTOTPatch.esp 135 87 mihailhousedrescamp.esp 136 88 mihailelementaltriad.esp 137 89 Devious Cidhna.esp 138 8a Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 139 8b CaranthirTowerReborn.esp 140 8c Midas Magic Expanded.esp 141 8d Champion of Kynareth.esp 142 8e SL99Exchanger.esp 143 8f BeyondSkyrimMerchant.esp 144 90 mihailaurorans.esp 145 91 daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp 146 92 Artifact Disenchanting - Dawnguard.esp 147 93 HothFollower.esp 148 94 Faallokaar.esp 149 95 Deviously Enslaved.esp 150 96 SpousesEnhanced.esp 151 97 mihailxivilai.esp 152 98 mihailgoldensaints.esp 153 99 Magic of the Magna-Ge.esp zombie mod.esp 154 9a summersetisles.esp 155 9b Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp 156 9c DarkEnvoy.esp 157 9d CWICRFPatch.esp 158 9e Sacrosanct - Dark Maneuvers Patch.esp 159 9f BooksOfSkyrim.esp 160 a0 Equippable Tomes.esp 161 a1 RSexpansion.esp 162 a2 ColdharbourDaedra.esp 163 a3 Lilium_Companion.esp 164 a4 PathOfTheAntiMage.esp 165 a5 vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp 166 a6 Cannabis.esp 167 a7 BDBrumaCreatures.esp 168 a8 AnubAnimObj.esp 169 a9 Animal_SOS.esp 170 aa RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp 171 ab BDIC.esp 172 ac HornyWerewolves.esp 173 ad SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp 174 ae SpousesEnhanced_Serana.esp 175 af SilencedPrisoners.esp 176 b0 Bruma CACO 2 Legendary.esp 177 b1 more plants all extra.esp 178 b2 Immersive Speechcraft.esp RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp 179 b3 WondersofWeather.esp 180 b4 natsuno.esp 181 b5 SOS - Electra's Secret Addon.esp 182 b6 SOS - Leito Addon.esp 183 b7 Neithteam Warpaint.esp 184 b8 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp 185 b9 DudestiaOutfitChanger.esp 186 ba DragonCombatDialogue.esp 187 bb Baraban-Steel-Helms.esp 188 bc Baraban-Steel-Plate.esp 189 bd Baraban-Dawnguard-Plate.esp 190 be DIS_Iron_Legion.esp 191 bf SlaveTats.esp 192 c0 SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp 193 c1 SC_Mouth.esp 194 c2 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp 195 c3 KaiSFemaleHHDT.esp 196 c4 SOS - Pubic Hair for Females Addon.esp 197 c5 DeadlyDragons.esp 198 c6 Andromeda.esp 199 c7 The Witch's Festival.esp 200 c8 Wrath Of Nature.esp 201 c9 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 202 ca ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp 203 cb MeekoReborn.esp 204 cc warmagearmor.esp 205 cd ClassicClasses.esp Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp 206 ce SD Patches.esp 207 cf QuaranirsGift.esp 208 d0 Bend Will.esp 209 d1 EorlundSellsAncientNordArmor.esp 210 d2 Soulmaster Unlimited.esp 211 d3 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 212 d4 BFA_CreatureChildActors_V+DG+DB.esp 213 d5 Abundant Enchantments.esp 214 d6 HothFollower UFO Patch.esp 215 d7 SexLabDefeat.esp 216 d8 SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp 217 d9 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp 218 da Devious Devices - Equip.esp 219 db PetCollar.esp 220 dc BeeingFemale_RS_Patch.esp 221 dd Slug Follower.esp 222 de Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 223 df CWIOrdinatorPatch.esp 224 e0 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 225 e1 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 226 e2 RDO - iAFT Patch.esp 227 e3 RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp 228 e4 RDO - CACO Patch.esp Immersive Citizens - RRR patch.esp 229 e5 RLO - IC Patch.esp Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp 230 e6 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 231 e7 da_alternate_start_extension.esp 232 e8 ccas_starts.esp Do you have the stability tools? (Crash Fixes, Bug fixes, SKSE memory patch) etc? Can you load a different save game? Sometimes an area or situation is harder for the game to load and loading a different save in a less busy (or sometimes, far more busy) area is better. I find once a save is loaded successfully, problem saves then open normally afterward.
Guest Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/100672 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725 No as I've said this occurs on all my saves. and these are the only crash fixes I have. if you have any recommendations I'm open to ideas
Seijin8 Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, ClockworkTower said: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/100672 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725 No as I've said this occurs on all my saves. and these are the only crash fixes I have. if you have any recommendations I'm open to ideas Okay, so what did you do after the last time you saved? Change load order? Change a mesh? Run Bodyslide? Something made it stop working. EDIT: Get Bug Fixes, same author as Crash Fixes. There are many other possible stability tools and things to add, especially if you have HDT (memory patch).
Guest Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 Just now, Seijin8 said: Okay, so what did you do after the last time you saved? Change load order? Change a mesh? Run Bodyslide? Something made it stop working. One detail I forgot to mention was that selecting New Game works fine, the game loads up I make my character and play for a bit and then I leave, then when I load up the save again the problem persists so this issue does only occur when I load a save. as for what I did before this happened, I was running low on disc space many months back so I uninstalled all my mods, deleted everything from nmm, and uninstalled skyrim, presently I reinstalled skyrim, downloaded a few mods I wanted while trying to make sure to emphasize lore, immersiveness, performance, and magic/alchemy so I did that, ran FNIS, Ran bodyslide and built a CBBE preset, ran Loot, ran skyrim, made my character, the game froze after I was done making my character, so I got out of the game, uninstalled a few mods, went back in, loaded the save and that's when the problem started, I tried making a new save to see if it was just corrupted, made my character again, didn't freeze that time so I personalized my mcm settings, talked to the mara statue, selected "camping in the woods", spawned near helgen at the campsite, entered the cave with hadvar and ralof, got infinite loading screen, got out of the game, uninstalled a few mods, went back in, and well I already told you about what happens there at the beginning of this paragraph so you can probably guess what happened after that. sorry for the block of text.
Guest Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 btw I did make sure the mods I uninstalled were small and didn't require me to go in the mcm menu to uninstall them there first.
Seijin8 Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, ClockworkTower said: btw I did make sure the mods I uninstalled were small and didn't require me to go in the mcm menu to uninstall them there first. 1 hour ago, ClockworkTower said: sorry for the block of text. ... yeah ... was actually very instructive. A perfect guide of how not to do this. It is *possible* that this can still be salvaged, but the likely path of fewest tears and least wasted time would be to delete everything and start completely over. What mod manager are you using? If the answer is NMM, then refer to the above advice -- you've torn critical parts of your mods out and have zero way of knowing what broke or where. If the answer is MO or Vortex, there is a possibility of fixing this.
Guest Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 25 minutes ago, Seijin8 said: ... yeah ... was actually very instructive. A perfect guide of how not to do this. It is *possible* that this can still be salvaged, but the likely path of fewest tears and least wasted time would be to delete everything and start completely over. What mod manager are you using? If the answer is NMM, then refer to the above advice -- you've torn critical parts of your mods out and have zero way of knowing what broke or where. If the answer is MO or Vortex, there is a possibility of fixing this. I do use NMM, oh well I guess I can take the mods I got installed, put em in a new category in nmm so I don't have to go looking for them again, then just install them a couple at a time. wish me luck, and thanks for the help!
Guest Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 33 minutes ago, Seijin8 said: ... yeah ... was actually very instructive. A perfect guide of how not to do this. It is *possible* that this can still be salvaged, but the likely path of fewest tears and least wasted time would be to delete everything and start completely over. What mod manager are you using? If the answer is NMM, then refer to the above advice -- you've torn critical parts of your mods out and have zero way of knowing what broke or where. If the answer is MO or Vortex, there is a possibility of fixing this. for the future how would you have delt with the freezing after character creation and the infinite loading screen issues?
Imperfection Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 For ILS I have had luck doing the following: Once the game menu loads open console and coc qasmoke, after that loads successfully bring up menu and try and load your save, if it loads then make new save Good luck
Guest Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Imperfection said: For ILS I have had luck doing the following: Once the game menu loads open console and coc qasmoke, after that loads successfully bring up menu and try and load your save, if it loads then make new save Good luck thx I'll give that a try before I start uninstalling everything
Guest Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, Imperfection said: For ILS I have had luck doing the following: Once the game menu loads open console and coc qasmoke, after that loads successfully bring up menu and try and load your save, if it loads then make new save Good luck btw what do you mean by game menu? you mean the main menu or when the character creation menu shows up?
Seijin8 Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, ClockworkTower said: for the future how would you have delt with the freezing after character creation and the infinite loading screen issues? 1) Not using NMM since it doesn't uninstall cleanly and can therefore pretty much never reliably regain a lost game state. MO2 would be my suggestion, but Vortex appears okay, too. I haven't used Vortex, but MO has a learning curve and you will need to consult guides on how to use it. 2) Use a solid install guide like STEP or the MNC install listed on this site. 3) Make sure you not only have the stability fixes, but that they are configured correctly for your system. 4) Generate a load order that is playable, stable and has what you need for that playthrough. 5) Once you have a playthrough established (mods you want, character set up, game is stable, etc) avoid adding new mods, and don't remove mods. It isn't that this can't be done, but making sure nothing breaks in the process requires you to be very clear on what the mods you're removing actually do and how they interact -- something most users cannot do and are unwilling to learn. So best practice is: just don't. If you do those steps, the issue you're trying to resolve more than likely never happens in the first place. Someday, maybe Bethesda will rework their game engine to be super mod-friendly and easily engineered for sex mods. With Skyrim, they took that opposite approach. Getting it working and stable is a significant effort. Skipping those steps replaces all that effort with shit performance and unreliability. Pick your poison.
Seijin8 Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, ClockworkTower said: btw what do you mean by game menu? you mean the main menu or when the character creation menu shows up? He means Main Menu. I would stop short of recommending this approach though -- Skyrim doesn't reliably clean the slate between save/load procedures, and this can infect your save with junk data (which can in turn mess up some of the scripts running in the save). A better approach is to create a save very early in the playthrough for the purpose of loading, and use that instead. That way you have everything installed and working, and aren't jumping into a new area with a new character that starts all the quests and scripts running fresh, some of which may transition their unfinished state into the save you load from. Better overall to have a stable game that doesn't need those approaches, but "any port in a storm". Also, should be 6) above: Get Fallrim tools and regularly clean unattached scripts from your savegames. If there aren't any unattached scripts, that is awesome.
Imperfection Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 Like i said this has worked for me in the past but I don't have a ridiculous load order like yours and would never attempt to run that many mods, as with all things Bethesda your mileage may vary. " Better overall to have a stable game that doesn't need those approaches " This is best advice but OP is already beyond this point unfortunately.
GenioMaestro Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Seijin8 said: 1) Not using NMM since it doesn't uninstall cleanly and can therefore pretty much never reliably regain a lost game state. That was TRUE a lot of years ago... in the versions 0.40 of NMM and early. Today, NMM works perfect. I use NMM for more than 3 years and never find a problem caused by NMM. 1 hour ago, Seijin8 said: 5) Once you have a playthrough established (mods you want, character set up, game is stable, etc) avoid adding new mods, and don't remove mods. It isn't that this can't be done, but making sure nothing breaks in the process requires you to be very clear on what the mods you're removing actually do and how they interact -- something most users cannot do and are unwilling to learn. So best practice is: just don't. That not have any sense. I play the same savegame for more than 1 year and half, i'm level 141, my savegame have near 50 MB, i had completed all the vanilla ques, plus all the DLC's plus all the quest of all my mods. Every week i add and remove mod from my running game whitout any problem. I always continue my current savegame and, normally, not have any problem. A lot of times is not necesary clean the savegame. I remove from my current savegame mods as big like Rigmor and Vigilant. I upgrade from DCL 7.5 to 8.0 making a clean save. I add HCOS and remove it. Past month i add and remove Bikini Armors, MWAA and Survival. This week make some merges and add ME while i playing with the same savegame. Add or remove mods to the current gameplay is not a problem for the game. You only need install the Stability Tools and have the game correctly configured.
GenioMaestro Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 4 hours ago, ClockworkTower said: So I'll start up the game, go down to load, choose my save, wait through a loading screen for a couple minutes then the game suddenly CTDs this happens with all my save's and I've been working on fixing it all day and can't figure out the cause That can be a know problem of the game solved with Load Game CTD Fix. 3 hours ago, ClockworkTower said: One detail I forgot to mention was that selecting New Game works fine, the game loads up I make my character and play for a bit and then I leave, then when I load up the save again the problem persists so this issue does only occur when I load a save. If New Game works the problem can not be caused by Excesive Animations. But if you can NOT load the first automatic savegame created by Alternate Start you can have a problem in the main core mods of the game. Verify that you have the last versions of PapyrusUtil and JContaines and none other mod overwrite it. 1 hour ago, ClockworkTower said: for the future how would you have delt with the freezing after character creation and the infinite loading screen issues? All the problems in Skyrim are caused by 2 motives: 1 - Missing Stability Tools or bad configured game/tools 2 - Problems in the mods Be sure you have the ALL the Stablity Tools correctly configured: SKSE Memory Patch Crash Fixes 12 ENB with Boost mode BethIni If you have made manual changes to your INI files I recomend delete your Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini and run BethIni for have clean and optimiced INI files. When the game freeze is similar to CTD but some tool make a bad control of the situation and not allow make the CTD. Similar to the ILS that, normally, is caused because the game have a fail while load the savegame. In last, never try load ALWAYS your last savegame. Sometimes Skyrim have a fail while save the game. Only happen one time each 100 or 200 savegames but happen. If you try load ALWAYS the same damaged savegame you ALWAYS have CTD. Try loading some diferent savegames in in some diferent situations. Not worry about if the game can load your savegame whitout that mod. I can asure you the game can made it ALWAYS. I can remove 90% of my mods and my game load my current savegame when i have 200 missing plugings. I can load 90% of the savegames of others players when i have a totally diferent pluging list.
Seijin8 Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 9 hours ago, GenioMaestro said: --- snipped --- I don't know if it has never occurred to you that your experience with the game is not common? Advice based on what you do is worthless to a user who can't be bothered to read mod descriptions.
Guest Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 10 hours ago, GenioMaestro said: That can be a know problem of the game solved with Load Game CTD Fix. If New Game works the problem can not be caused by Excesive Animations. But if you can NOT load the first automatic savegame created by Alternate Start you can have a problem in the main core mods of the game. Verify that you have the last versions of PapyrusUtil and JContaines and none other mod overwrite it. All the problems in Skyrim are caused by 2 motives: 1 - Missing Stability Tools or bad configured game/tools 2 - Problems in the mods Be sure you have the ALL the Stablity Tools correctly configured: SKSE Memory Patch Crash Fixes 12 ENB with Boost mode BethIni If you have made manual changes to your INI files I recomend delete your Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini and run BethIni for have clean and optimiced INI files. When the game freeze is similar to CTD but some tool make a bad control of the situation and not allow make the CTD. Similar to the ILS that, normally, is caused because the game have a fail while load the savegame. In last, never try load ALWAYS your last savegame. Sometimes Skyrim have a fail while save the game. Only happen one time each 100 or 200 savegames but happen. If you try load ALWAYS the same damaged savegame you ALWAYS have CTD. Try loading some diferent savegames in in some diferent situations. Not worry about if the game can load your savegame whitout that mod. I can asure you the game can made it ALWAYS. I can remove 90% of my mods and my game load my current savegame when i have 200 missing plugings. I can load 90% of the savegames of others players when i have a totally diferent pluging list. thanks that fixed it!
GenioMaestro Posted January 12, 2020 Posted January 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Seijin8 said: I don't know if it has never occurred to you that your experience with the game is not common? Advice based on what you do is worthless to a user who can't be bothered to read mod descriptions. If you not know how make the game works as a clock learn to make it. I can teach you, if you want. A lot of players add and remove mods every week whitout any problem. I call @Grey Cloud and @Myst42 for confirm my words. I think @worik play the same savegame for more than one entire year. I play in a six years old machine, a simple i5 4460 with a simple GTX 660 2G but i play wit 300 mods, 250 plugings, in full hd 1920x1080 with average 50 fps for 2, 3, 4.. up to 6 consecutive hours in my savegame with one year and half of history whitout any problem, of course, after add or remove any mod that i want in any moment.
worik Posted January 12, 2020 Posted January 12, 2020 8 hours ago, GenioMaestro said: I think @worik play the same savegame for more than one entire year. Stats ? Is it that time of the day ? OK, here we go. Spoiler Day 1 in my ongoing game was (*scrolls up in the diary*) 2018, January, 21st My current save has the sequential number 1776 (last weekend) It went through 62 days where major changes happend, including reshuffling the load order, removing, replacing or simply upgrading mods. It has > 450 mods and patches, merged down to round about 125 esp/esm files An average save file is about 32MB I haven't been to Solstheim yet, have no idea what all these vampires are all about and advised Delphine to visit a healer and quit with those glowing mushrooms in her tea - with all her Alduin-nonsense. God save the Legendary Editon! Our old family brick is a retired office PC Celeron G530 8GB RAM, the GFX card was upgraded over the years to todays GTX1050TI. Wich gives us a beautiful Skyrim in 1920x1080 and it just a pity that nobody under this roof managed to make it use the second monitor. (Though it is a blessing with the CK)
Grey Cloud Posted January 12, 2020 Posted January 12, 2020 12 hours ago, GenioMaestro said: add and remove mods every week whitout any problem Very, very rarely do I go through a game without making several changes. My game is very stable and very rarely CTDs.
Myst42 Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 On 1/11/2020 at 9:12 PM, GenioMaestro said: @Myst42 for confirm my words. Sure. MO is awesome that way, when adding or removing mods can be done safely in long plays at any moment, Testing stuff usually requires to be constantly changing mod list, even though It's not something I like to do, but sometimes it's necessary. Sometimes, something may not be working properly and fixing is required. Anyway, removing mods is indeed entirely possible most of the times, except some rare exceptions where some vanilla quest or script may be broken after removing a mod that altered it. Had such a problem with Jobs of Skyrim before fixing it, but I think my version is working fine now. The only consideration is as usual, knowing how to do a proper orphan script cleaning with ReSaver. Unfortunately, some users can't even find their own data folder these days. And BTW my game is usually very very stable. Can't say it's perfect cause I still get some CTDs, especially on cell change and save game, bt at this point, I've assumed its more of a resource or memory issue than a setting one. Setting-caused CTDs are bugs and usually caused by a bad mod or lack of stability ones, random CTDs on save are practically normal when playing a heavily modded game.
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