[mod] DZM Expanded

[shadowboy41]

I have the mytsic,necromancer,mage traits and an artifact to commune with but I can not for the life of me figure out how to actually soul forge. I have all the special building built as well.  All the mods are compatible to my knowledge. I have no idea what step I'm missing to actually do this. If anyone could help that would be amazing.

 

I have the soulforge spell but it doesn't show any of the options to commune with. Just the decision to hide or show options.

[TriggerBlade]

13 hours ago, shadowboy41 said:

I have the soulforge spell but it doesn't show any of the options to commune with. Just the decision to hide or show options.

Do you have life crystals?

[shadowboy41]

7 hours ago, TriggerBlade said:

Do you have life crystals?

I have some. Idk where it shows how many you have though. I thought you only needed 5?

[TriggerBlade]

1 hour ago, shadowboy41 said:

I have some. Idk where it shows how many you have though. I thought you only needed 5?

It's a character modifier I believe. You need a little more. I may lower the requirements a second time.

TL;DR I had a major update in the works and lost it all. So I really only update if something game breaking comes up or if someone donates code.

[shadowboy41]

1 hour ago, TriggerBlade said:

It's a character modifier I believe. You need a little more. I may lower the requirements a second time.

TL;DR I had a major update in the works and lost it all. So I really only update if something game breaking comes up or if someone donates code.

I'll have to look again next time I'm able to play, but I spammed that hunting event a decent amount so I should have at least around 20 or so but I don't know how much it's supposed to cost. Its fine if it costs a lot as at least then I'd know it works.

[shadowboy41]

On 12/8/2020 at 1:34 AM, TriggerBlade said:

It's a character modifier I believe. You need a little more. I may lower the requirements a second time.

TL;DR I had a major update in the works and lost it all. So I really only update if something game breaking comes up or if someone donates code.

I have 102 crystals. 

[TriggerBlade]

12 hours ago, shadowboy41 said:

I have 102 crystals. 

Huh. I'll look into it.

[shadowboy41]

2 hours ago, TriggerBlade said:

Huh. I'll look into it.

Thanks! I appreciate it! I'm trying to summon Neo or Pyrrha and I have their special weapons. I notice the ai summons about everything else so I'm not sure if there are certain ones that only the player can summon since I attempted to just the ai do it for me.

[shadowboy41]

On 12/9/2020 at 4:06 PM, TriggerBlade said:

Huh. I'll look into it.

Did you ever find anything out? Sorry I don't mean to bug you.

[TriggerBlade]

On 12/29/2020 at 12:56 AM, shadowboy41 said:

Did you ever find anything out? Sorry I don't mean to bug you.

I can't for the life of me figure out what's making it not work. It works for me.

Pyrrha also can't be summoned as her content was never finished and I don't have time to write it all up, edit the image, chain the events, and tailor it appropriately.

 

Something that I don't think was ever brought up is that you can't summon some soulforges without the proper traits. Jeanne is actually an example of needing a specific religion.

 

This was coded by by DZ and all my attempts at removing it just breaks the mod so I've left it in.

[shadowboy41]

8 hours ago, TriggerBlade said:

I can't for the life of me figure out what's making it not work. It works for me.

Pyrrha also can't be summoned as her content was never finished and I don't have time to write it all up, edit the image, chain the events, and tailor it appropriately.

 

Something that I don't think was ever brought up is that you can't summon some soulforges without the proper traits. Jeanne is actually an example of needing a specific religion.

 

This was coded by by DZ and all my attempts at removing it just breaks the mod so I've left it in.

Oh!! That's probally why it doesn't work then since Pyrrha and Neo are the only ones I've tried. Okay then there probably isn't a real problem then. 

[TriggerBlade]

10 hours ago, shadowboy41 said:

Pyrrha and Neo are the only ones I've tried.

lol that explains things.

 

The go to test one is Nero.

If she doesn't work then I'll get over myself and do a deep dive.

[shadowboy41]

On 12/31/2020 at 10:57 AM, TriggerBlade said:

lol that explains things.

 

The go to test one is Nero.

If she doesn't work then I'll get over myself and do a deep dive.

Oh geez lol. But thank you for your time though and sorry for the false alarm than. 

[MagnaSonic3000]

I have several questions, mostly due to fuckery where the mod just does what ever it wants sometimes

 

Servants that seem infertile seem to get their fertility back at random. I've seen Tamamo become Queen in some games, where she becomes a whore and literally spends her entire life pumping out kids and being Queen of a kingdom for like 200 years. I assume no one stops her because she's built up so much favor on top of all her beauty traits that no one has any negatives with her. As expected of my wife.

On that same topic, servants who are also infertile will sometimes make a child with me at random. There's no pregnancy for her or myself (if I do the futa game), and the kid will just suddenly appear with both of us as parents. Having sex with her normally doesn't seem to do anything, and she'll just have another kid when she feels like it. They will have our race traits if we have any, so the game is counting them as ours, so somehow they're breeding.

 

Servants will also have their soulforge trait changed at random. Usually it claims they're infertile, but a lot of times when I look away, the trait will change. Often after years of playing, their soulforge will now say that they exist like a normal person, and they don't have their immortality anymore. What on earth am I missing?

[TriggerBlade]

On 2/23/2021 at 10:27 PM, MagnaSonic3000 said:

I have several questions, mostly due to fuckery where the mod just does what ever it wants sometimes

 

Servants that seem infertile seem to get their fertility back at random. I've seen Tamamo become Queen in some games, where she becomes a whore and literally spends her entire life pumping out kids and being Queen of a kingdom for like 200 years. I assume no one stops her because she's built up so much favor on top of all her beauty traits that no one has any negatives with her. As expected of my wife.

On that same topic, servants who are also infertile will sometimes make a child with me at random. There's no pregnancy for her or myself (if I do the futa game), and the kid will just suddenly appear with both of us as parents. Having sex with her normally doesn't seem to do anything, and she'll just have another kid when she feels like it. They will have our race traits if we have any, so the game is counting them as ours, so somehow they're breeding.

 

Servants will also have their soulforge trait changed at random. Usually it claims they're infertile, but a lot of times when I look away, the trait will change. Often after years of playing, their soulforge will now say that they exist like a normal person, and they don't have their immortality anymore. What on earth am I missing?

This is intentional. After a Servant conquers, or somehow inherits, land they will lose their status as a true servant and the only thing that they retain is immortality in regards to aging. They'll be easier to die in combat and will no longer regenerate lost limbs.

I haven't come up with a lore reason but put on the spot I'd say that they become more "human" because they are no longer bound to their masters and thus give up the benefits of the constant flow of mana. The lack of mana from a master is why they lose the ability to regenerate. But like half of them are still gods regardless so yeah, that's why they can still avoid getting some sniffles.

 

As for the randomness. I'm assuming it's going off of vanilla breeding mechanics. Not sure why the sex option doesn't work for you but I'll look into it.

 

I've been tweaking the mod a tad bit so I'll see if it has anything to do on my end and probably fix it with a long over due update.

 

Oh and player servants won't have to worry about morality. They're supposed to become a "Mortal Soulforge" after a multi-route visual novelesque event series. That however will probably take a few more centuries for me to release as I lost a little over a third of coding and localization which included 6 endings for Nero as well as like 20+ flavor events in relation to chosen lifestyle, whether or not you were married, if you were married to her, your gender ect. Yeah extensive stuff and I'm still not fully recovered from the soul crushing sensation from losing all that despite it being over a year.

[MagnaSonic3000]

It's fine, losing loads of progress can sometimes kill you. Though I have to say, in Tamamo's case she's probably one of the more busted servants, as her Kitsune trait gives her all the busted healing abilities their status would normally give just for being a fox. I also tend to give Gozen the Kitsune trait, because she kinda is one too but only Tamamo spawns with it, which means she applies for also being kind of broken. In fact I typically give any character canonically a certain race their trait, meaning people like Kiyohime and Elizabeth would be given the dragon trait, who can also regen (it's more of a time thing rather than instant magic like foxes).

 

So pretty much not all the servants will be treated the same, and some are better than others. I'd pretty much say all fox and dragon servants are on a higher tier list than human ones, and fox ones get obscene stats when they hit 9 tails. Just a bit of perspective, if you ever decided to automatically apply race traits, since only Tamamo spawns with one already set for her. I also wondered what the stalker trait was for though, other than for the canon characters who are a little creepy.

 

At times, sometimes I'd say Tamamo is a little yandere herself.

[aren1117]

Dose anyone else have a problem with possession events and other similar firing non-stop when this mod active? To the point where everybody is possessed or a lunatic.

[TriggerBlade]

On 2/25/2021 at 6:38 PM, MagnaSonic3000 said:

It's fine, losing loads of progress can sometimes kill you.

Your sympathy genuinely means a lot to me.

 

On 2/25/2021 at 6:38 PM, MagnaSonic3000 said:

Though I have to say, in Tamamo's case she's probably one of the more busted servants, as her Kitsune trait gives her all the busted healing abilities their status would normally give just for being a fox.

This is due to the inherent nature of the Kitsune mod. I'll see if I can do some balancing on my end but no promises.

 

On 2/25/2021 at 6:38 PM, MagnaSonic3000 said:

I also tend to give Gozen the Kitsune trait, because she kinda is one too but only Tamamo spawns with it, which means she applies for also being kind of broken. In fact I typically give any character canonically a certain race their trait, meaning people like Kiyohime and Elizabeth would be given the dragon trait, who can also regen (it's more of a time thing rather than instant magic like foxes).

I thought I gave Gozen, Kiyohime, and Elizabeth the race traits... I even have a bit of code that senses if you have the related Fantasia mods activated and replaces the DZ traits with theirs... I'll have to look closer into this if it's not doing it for you.

 

On 2/25/2021 at 6:38 PM, MagnaSonic3000 said:

So pretty much not all the servants will be treated the same, and some are better than others. I'd pretty much say all fox and dragon servants are on a higher tier list than human ones, and fox ones get obscene stats when they hit 9 tails. Just a bit of perspective, if you ever decided to automatically apply race traits, since only Tamamo spawns with one already set for her. I also wondered what the stalker trait was for though, other than for the canon characters who are a little creepy.

Some servants will always be better than others. The strongest of which will eventually be turned into player exclusive summons. The AI gets theirs automatically after a year so they'll keep the weaker ones.

 

I don't remember giving her the stalker trait but...

On 2/25/2021 at 6:38 PM, MagnaSonic3000 said:

At times, sometimes I'd say Tamamo is a little yandere herself.

Is why I won't be removing it.

 

On 3/2/2021 at 7:49 PM, aren1117 said:

Dose anyone else have a problem with possession events and other similar firing non-stop when this mod active? To the point where everybody is possessed or a lunatic.

Tested it and this is probably a mod compatibility issue as it isn't happening in my game.

PS. Sorry for the late response.

[MagnaSonic3000]

There's a chance I had an older version, I don't know. I nuked my mod folder and eventually came back to it, so maybe something changed. Anyway, whenever the weird VN aspects come out before CK4 is released, I hope to god you don't butcher Gozen like she usually is. Tamamo usually gets away fine, I can handle a hyperactive wife. But Gozen often gets raped by the localization stick. I don't want her talking like some Twitter tard.

 

Other than that, I do wonder why Chloe is in the game but the original she's supposed to be broken off of isn't. I find it kinda weird the "origin" character isn't present, even when their little magical girl spin off kinda made her a servant in a way. I just hope some of the not yet present servants get in too. Above all else, I hope you can eventually squeeze in Scathach. It's either LF or Dark World that does it, but there's a brief male rape event where a warrior chick shows up with her image, and it kinda bummed me out she's not there. Her weapon technically is, but that's Cu's.

[TriggerBlade]

On 3/11/2021 at 11:05 PM, MagnaSonic3000 said:

Anyway, whenever the weird VN aspects come out before CK4 is released

Your optimism pleases me lmao. In seriousness I've written down all the bullet points for like 90% of the character I intend to give this treatment. When will I add these? When I do...

 

On 3/11/2021 at 11:05 PM, MagnaSonic3000 said:

I hope to god you don't butcher Gozen like she usually is. Tamamo usually gets away fine, I can handle a hyperactive wife. But Gozen often gets raped by the localization stick. I don't want her talking like some Twitter tard.

Don't worry. I am aware of the original Japanese intent. I have no idea why FGO's Western localization team decided to screw with it since it isn't all that that complicated. Yes this does mean that Gozen will eventually be made a plater exclusive summon. In regards to Tamamo. I planned on her doing a lot of things to benefit your demise but in like a suffocating manner. Something along the lines of subtracting a portion of your treasury to build a large statue of you as a testament to your love(if you're her lover or spouse). While this is draining on your gold, it will give a decent buff to opinion modifiers who are moved by the gesture. I'll attempt to keep it balanced.

On 3/11/2021 at 11:05 PM, MagnaSonic3000 said:

Other than that, I do wonder why Chloe is in the game but the original she's supposed to be broken off of isn't. I find it kinda weird the "origin" character isn't present, even when their little magical girl spin off kinda made her a servant in a way.

I'm going off of the order of the FGO wiki. Archer came first. I'll be adding ALL servants. Including the ones that have been added to "completed" categories since last update of this mod as well as some servants not included in FGO. Like Richard and Saladin.

 

On 3/11/2021 at 11:05 PM, MagnaSonic3000 said:

Above all else, I hope you can eventually squeeze in Scathach

She's already an available player summon. You can find her artifact or steal from/kill one of the NPC Cus for their Gae Bulg to summon her.

 

On 3/11/2021 at 11:05 PM, MagnaSonic3000 said:

It's either LF or Dark World that does it, but there's a brief male rape event where a warrior chick shows up with her image, and it kinda bummed me out she's not there.

DZME will not feature adult content to keep in line with the original mod author's intent. I do currently have hooks, tags, and conditions that has the mod play nice with LF but I will not be adding anything myself. An exception is an image of Medb sitting on the player's back like they're a chair(which won't launch if LF's dominant trait is present on your character) but that's for characterization, not to get off on.

 

 

[IgorEgo]

This mod with random world bugs all the religious icons and moves them off centre or half off the screen. Nothing too bad but any chance of a fix? 

[numina_is_lost]

On 3/18/2021 at 5:09 AM, IgorEgo said:

This mod with random world bugs all the religious icons and moves them off centre or half off the screen. Nothing too bad but any chance of a fix? 

Vanilla issue. Though it usually happens when you install DZM on top of an overhaul mod like HIP.

[TriggerBlade]

On 3/17/2021 at 5:09 PM, IgorEgo said:

This mod with random world bugs all the religious icons and moves them off centre or half off the screen. Nothing too bad but any chance of a fix? 

 

On 3/18/2021 at 9:39 PM, numina_is_lost said:

Vanilla issue. Though it usually happens when you install DZM on top of an overhaul mod like HIP.

Yeah there's nothing I can do unless I make a specific patch and I'm not willing to dig into HIP and learn how to patch a mod I don't even use.

Even more so since I don't know why on earth you'd want a mod like this to run with something focused on "Historical Improvement."

King Arthur didn't come back to life as a woman and take over England in the 800s and Napoleon didn't travel back in time to create his empire before the Carolingians managed to make theirs.

[TriggerBlade]

I finally got around to updating.

[Rance47]

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!

Edited July 8, 2021 by Rance47
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