Sexout additional animations

[Guest Donkey]

Actually that is what i been doing i used extender skeleton to animate the above, but the current mesh for male does not look right in game. My game currently has breeze male mesh installed. when i deactivated that and installed extender it now looks like this, even with archiveinvalidation activated.

 

BNB does not allow me to animate male genital like extender does.

 

How hard will it be, to create a new mesh and weight it to a skeleton that can animate every part of it ?? BNB is great but some part can;t be animated, Extender is great but there is no clothes created it for it. So that is a great dillema.

[prideslayer]

Actually that is what i been doing i used extender skeleton to animate the above' date=' but the current mesh for male does not look right in game. My game currently has breeze male mesh installed. when i deactivated that and installed extender it now looks like this, even with archiveinvalidation activated.

 

BNB does not allow me to animate male genital like extender does.

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Breezes is paired to the default game skeleton and should work fine with any skeleton that has all the vanilla bones. BNB does, I think BX does too. I'll take a closer look.

 

How hard will it be, to create a new mesh and weight it to a skeleton that can animate every part of it ?? BNB is great but some part can;t be animated, Extender is great but there is no clothes created it for it. So that is a great dillema.

 

That will require an entirely new skeleton, and THEN a new mesh weighted to that skeleton. There is a skeleton here created by one of our members that has all the parts of both (with no duplicates) called "THE Skeleton WIP", it also has wing and tail bones.

 

The bones in that skeleton all need renamed to match the BNB names, then the leftovers renamed to match the BX names. After that, any type3 mesh already weighted to BNB would work with it, but the BX weighting would have to be added.

[astymma]

I don't know the first thing about making the facial animations' date=' but I would definitely like to keep them separate from the sex animations, so the expression can be changed through a range of them no matter the animation. There are a few that would kick things off and make the scenes much better.

 

1. cons (happy/normal) sex

2. rape (angry/painful) sex

3. cons blowjob

4. angry blowjob

 

 

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Well unfortunately for you, this method would require you to add it into your countdown timer for the sex duration. We'd have to come up with an easy way to store the facial data for each animation (and once again I wish we had Oblivion's RunBatchScript).

 

[prideslayer]

I don't know the first thing about making the facial animations' date=' but I would definitely like to keep them separate from the sex animations, so the expression can be changed through a range of them no matter the animation. There are a few that would kick things off and make the scenes much better.

 

1. cons (happy/normal) sex

2. rape (angry/painful) sex

3. cons blowjob

4. angry blowjob

 

 

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Well unfortunately for you, this method would require you to add it into your countdown timer for the sex duration. We'd have to come up with an easy way to store the facial data for each animation (and once again I wish we had Oblivion's RunBatchScript).

 

 

I'm not following.

 

If I change the group that the FAFF facial animations are in, out of special idles and to something else like upperbody (there are not many choices here, ugh), then a simple PlayIdle at the start and a reset at the end should be enough to get it started.

 

Later I can integrate them with the sound script instead to have them switch around during sex or other more 'fancy' stuff.

[astymma]

I don't know the first thing about making the facial animations' date=' but I would definitely like to keep them separate from the sex animations, so the expression can be changed through a range of them no matter the animation. There are a few that would kick things off and make the scenes much better.

 

1. cons (happy/normal) sex

2. rape (angry/painful) sex

3. cons blowjob

4. angry blowjob

 

 

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Well unfortunately for you, this method would require you to add it into your countdown timer for the sex duration. We'd have to come up with an easy way to store the facial data for each animation (and once again I wish we had Oblivion's RunBatchScript).

 

 

I'm not following.

 

If I change the group that the FAFF facial animations are in, out of special idles and to something else like upperbody (there are not many choices here, ugh), then a simple PlayIdle at the start and a reset at the end should be enough to get it started.

 

Later I can integrate them with the sound script instead to have them switch around during sex or other more 'fancy' stuff.

 

Oh so quick and dirty, not full featured then? Gotcha.

[prideslayer]

 

Oh so quick and dirty' date=' not full featured then? Gotcha.

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I think we all agree that anything would be better than the 1000 yard stare we have now. Can make it fancy and polished later.

[Guest Donkey]

Man we really derailed this topic.. Bringing it back to topic. Here is a new animation i am working on

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will do some more creature next.

 

This is Body-extender masturbation animation. With movable dick. Also does have facials to it. A picture is shown in post 501 http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=2284&pid=90346#pid90346

[ChancellorKremlin]

As they say in village, IS NAICE, I LIKE!

[astymma]

Man we really derailed this topic.. Bringing it back to topic. Here is a new animation i am working on

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will do some more creature next.

 

This is Body-extender masturbation animation. With movable dick. Also does have facials to it. A picture is shown in post 501 http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=2284&pid=90346#pid90346

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The only thing about creating a body extender animation is that SexoutNG will need to support body swapping. It will need to have added the ability to "mark" an animation as BnB or BX so that the appropriate body can be chosen for body substitution on the fly. Currently the animation only works for the BX male and, I'm guessing, the BnB female? Probably be easiest if we just preface the reference id with "BX" and inform users that if a BX animation is played, they will have their body substituted appropriately. Maybe make it an MCM option (enable BX animations yes/no)?

 

Not trying to discourage you, just trying to figure out how to support BX and BnB together in SexoutNG. I'm all for using either one, it's why the compatability skeleton exists.

 

Oh, and that animation looks great. Awesome job, as always, Donkey.

[prideslayer]

That sounds.. challenging. I'll think on it.

[astymma]

That sounds.. challenging. I'll think on it.

 

The bodies are fairly good imo. The male requires Robert's body textures but the female uses type3 afaik.

 

 

[mundaneunspeakable]

Excuse me for the ignorance, but I just tried and a body weighted with both BE and BNB boob weights and it seemed to work fine for both kinds of sex animations. Is this body swapping just for backwards compability or the male body?

[astymma]

Excuse me for the ignorance' date=' but I just tried and a body weighted with both BE and BNB boob weights and it seemed to work fine for both kinds of sex animations. Is this body swapping just for backwards compability or the male body?

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I wasn't aware such a body existed since it's not possible to weight a mesh to both. A body mesh would have to be weighted to one or the other and the skeleton would have to choose between BnB breast bones or BE breast bones (and genitalia bones as well). The bone names are different for those two body meshes. If there is such a body, I'd like a link please.

[prideslayer]

Excuse me for the ignorance' date=' but I just tried and a body weighted with both BE and BNB boob weights and it seemed to work fine for both kinds of sex animations. Is this body swapping just for backwards compability or the male body?

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"Bodyswapping" means an armor that looks like a nude body is used, instead of making the actor actually 'naked'. This means sexout will work, and have nude actors during sex, even when the player has no body replacement mods (breezes, roberts, typeX, etc.) installed.

 

It's there mainly for people that want "naked" people in general to look different from people having sex; e.g. you can install breezes and a non-nude type3 default body, and then use a bodysuit during sex.

[mundaneunspeakable]

I wasn't aware such a body existed since it's not possible to weight a mesh to both. A body mesh would have to be weighted to one or the other and the skeleton would have to choose between BnB breast bones or BE breast bones (and genitalia bones as well). The bone names are different for those two body meshes. If there is such a body' date=' I'd like a link please.[/quote']

 

I made one for personal use. Please see your PM.

 

"Bodyswapping" means an armor that looks like a nude body is used' date=' instead of making the actor actually 'naked'. This means sexout will work, and have nude actors during sex, even when the player has no body replacement mods (breezes, roberts, typeX, etc.) installed.

 

It's there mainly for people that want "naked" people in general to look different from people having sex; e.g. you can install breezes and a non-nude type3 default body, and then use a bodysuit during sex.

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I've done some experiments with dual weighted bodies. I've sent astymma a file, let's see whether I messed up and if the dual weighted body works.

[Guest Donkey]

Any chance you will release these meshes ??

[mundaneunspeakable]

I should have T3 Cali done tomorrow. It should have been today but I got delayed. What's your fav body Donkey?

[Guest Donkey]

Does your cali support vagina bones ?? that would make some nice addition aswell. currently only used BNB due to the bouncing support and animation it included. For male i used Breeze, but it did not contain dick support. It was just attached to the full body mesh so animating it was impossible for dick part like bodyextender can.

[astymma]

Does your cali support vagina bones ?? that would make some nice addition aswell. currently only used BNB due to the bouncing support and animation it included. For male i used Breeze' date=' but it did not contain dick support. It was just attached to the full body mesh so animating it was impossible for dick part like bodyextender can.

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If it's weighted *completely* to my skeleton it will have vagina.L and vagina.R which you can use to do horizontal motion of the vaginal lips.

 

If you install the Body Extender esp and try out the "eat her out on a pool table" animation, you'll see the male tongue animation possibilities and the vaginal animation in action. Also, facial animation.

[astymma]

Actually that is what i been doing i used extender skeleton to animate the above' date=' but the current mesh for male does not look right in game. My game currently has breeze male mesh installed. when i deactivated that and installed extender it now looks like this, even with archiveinvalidation activated.

 

BNB does not allow me to animate male genital like extender does.

 

How hard will it be, to create a new mesh and weight it to a skeleton that can animate every part of it ?? BNB is great but some part can;t be animated, Extender is great but there is no clothes created it for it. So that is a great dillema.

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I know this post was a while ago but to correct the texture issues, you'll need Robert's male body textures since the body extender body is based on Robert's mesh.

 

[mundaneunspeakable]

hmmm no. Are those bones even supported in the body supplied by the Body Extender?

[astymma]

hmmm no. Are those bones even supported in the body supplied by the Body Extender?

 

WHOOPS... those bones are part of BnB, not Boxy Extender, my mistake.

 

Edit: I was going to correct my typo above but calling it "Boxy Extender" when discussing the vaginal lip bones is too perfect...lol

[mundaneunspeakable]

Oh crud, that just reminded me that I couldn't get the tongue working on export since Blender said the vertexs weren't assigned even if they were. I guess I could add the tongue back in in nifskope.

 

Unfortunately I don't think I can weigh the vagina without an example to go on. Not good enough with animation quite yet.

[astymma]

Oh crud' date=' that just reminded me that I couldn't get the tongue working on export since Blender said the vertexs weren't assigned even if they were. I guess I could add the tongue back in in nifskope.

 

Unfortunately I don't think I can weigh the vagina without an example to go on. Not good enough with animation quite yet.

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I think to weight the vaginal lips you'd do a standard center gradient weight paint. So 100% at the middle of the vagina (vertically) tapering off as you go up or down. That way the middle would open more wide than the top or bottom.

 

Actually, the more I think about it, it would be a sunburst gradient, but only half of it. So a center half circle of 100% at the middle, tapering off in every direction to 0%. That way the vagina would open but the lips above and below center would open less and the skin around the vagina would deform less. Either that or only weight paint a tiny area around the vagina.

 

To be perfectly honest, we may need to add the interior as a prop so when the lips are spread you wouldn't just see a massively deformed texture from the skin dds.

[mundaneunspeakable]

Attached is my first try at a compatible body. It is breast weighted for both BNB and BE using astymma's skeleton, and also includes the tongue from BE. astymma's skeleton must be installed. There are two limitations and a disclaimer:

 

1. I have not thoroughly tested this, but it appears it will only work correctly you install the BNB animations first and then install the Body Extender animations on top of them. Installing only the Body Extender locomotion animations may result in infinite breasts in first person.

 

I recommend the female walking animations from Body Extender as it supports separate breast and nipple bones rather than breast bones alone, hence it looks better.

 

2. I can't get x-mirror working in Blender so the left and right breast weights may not be 100% aligned.

 

3. I haven't tested the tongue.

 

Please provide constructive feedback, I appreciate it.

 

I'll get vagina bones a shot at later date but I should probably finish up a few RL things before I do. Please don't redistribute until later when things are sorted out, this more of a proof of concept. Special thanks to astymma for being the first tester.