Johnykage555 Posted July 27, 2019 Posted July 27, 2019 As the title says I've been having these irritating ctd's when trying to enter markarth, i finished the cidhna mine quest including the devious cidhna part, left the city, went on a few other quests just fine only to return to markarth and find myself unable to enter due to CTD's. that and ocasionally one of my saves tends to just break and not being able to use them. I've tried my best but i think i might be missing something, maybe load order or so but i can't wrap my head around it I've tried fiddling with the load order/ using wyre bash (pourly). I'm using Skyrim Mod manager aswell. Ps: i'm quite the noob at modding. Below you'll find my load order and a recent papyrus log. 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Dawnguard.esm 03 HearthFires.esm 04 Dragonborn.esm 05 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp [Version 3.0.15] 06 hdtHighHeel.esm 07 SexLab.esm [Version 1.62] 08 SexLabAroused.esm [Version 2.8] 09 Devious Devices - Assets.esm [Version 2.8.3] 0A Devious Devices - Integration.esm 0B Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 0C CreatureFramework.esm [Version 1.0.0] 0D ZaZAnimationPack.esm 0E ApachiiHair.esm 0F ApachiiHairFemales.esm 10 SkyMoMod.esm 11 TERAArmors.esm 12 HighResTexturePack01.esp 13 HighResTexturePack02.esp 14 HighResTexturePack03.esp 15 calleb96- enhanced gold mod.esp 16 SkyUI.esp 17 RaceMenu.esp 18 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 19 FNIS.esp 1A Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp 1B Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 1C EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 1D KS Hairdo's.esp 1E MoreNastyCritters.esp 1F SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 20 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 21 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 22 SimpleSlavery.esp 23 xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp [Version No.] 24 Slaverun_Reloaded.esp 25 Dark_Forests.esp 26 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 27 TKDodge.esp 28 Duel - Combat Realism.esp 29 SLALAnimObj.esp 2A KomAnimObjects.esp 2B SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 2C UIExtensions.esp 2D SexLabDefeat.esp 2E FNISSexyMove.esp 2F ScarletDawnArmor.esp 30 EdhildilsWitchDoctor.esp 31 WWW.esp 32 SOSRaceMenu.esp 33 XPMSE.esp 34 SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp 35 zzzSXP.esp 36 InigoPerkPointGiver.esp 37 VioLens.esp [Version 2.11] 38 Gatti12Jewelry.esp 39 NewmCeremRedone.esp 3A ApepiBetterCollege.esp 3B RealisticWaterTwo.esp 3C The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns.esp 3D BD UUNP Armor and cloth replacer.esp 3E Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp [Version v6.5.2b] 3F ebonvale.esp 40 EpicSolitude.esp 41 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp [Version v6.5.2a] 42 ELFX - Weathers.esp 43 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 44 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 45 Immersive Weapons.esp 46 HentaiCreatures.esp 47 SMIM-Merged-All.esp 48 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 49 SexLab_Solutions.esp 4A JKs LITE - Riften.esp 4B RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp 4C SexLab_Dialogues.esp 4D RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp 4E JKs LITE - Windhelm.esp 4F Ghosu - Project Flintlock.esp 50 RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp 51 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 52 Werehide.esp 53 PAN_NPCs.esp 54 Unique Uniques.esp [Version 1.8] 55 JKs LITE - Markarth.esp 56 hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp 57 NewmDaedricBikMermM2.esp 58 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp [Version 9] 59 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 5A Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 3.1.7] 5B ELFXEnhancer.esp 5C GPArmorPack3.esp 5D RoadInspections.esp 5E SLAdv_GoldWeight.esp 5F SLAdventures.esp 60 JKs Whiterun.esp [Version 1.2] 61 JKs Whiterun exterior.esp [Version 1.2] 62 Infinite Gold For Merchants.esp 63 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 64 chfshImbuedSword.esp 65 Windstad Manor Fortification.esp 66 Housecarlsrevamp.esp 67 ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp 68 BlackthornManor.esp 69 My Home Is Your Home.esp 6A ssapbwk.esp 6B Enchanting - IDWIW.esp 6C female mannequins.esp 6D female mannequins in homes.esp 6E PAN_NPCs_DG.esp 6F PAN_Serana.esp 70 Emfy Cleric Robes.esp 71 ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp 72 GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp 73 Devious Cidhna.esp 74 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 75 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 1.2.9] Papyrus.0.log
Psalam Posted July 27, 2019 Posted July 27, 2019 32 minutes ago, Johnykage555 said: As the title says I've been having these irritating ctd's when trying to enter markarth, i finished the cidhna mine quest including the devious cidhna part, left the city, went on a few other quests just fine only to return to markarth and find myself unable to enter due to CTD's. that and ocasionally one of my saves tends to just break and not being able to use them. I've tried my best but i think i might be missing something, maybe load order or so but i can't wrap my head around it I've tried fiddling with the load order/ using wyre bash (pourly). I'm using Skyrim Mod manager aswell. Ps: i'm quite the noob at modding. Below you'll find my load order and a recent papyrus log. Hide contents 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Dawnguard.esm 03 HearthFires.esm 04 Dragonborn.esm 05 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp [Version 3.0.15] 06 hdtHighHeel.esm 07 SexLab.esm [Version 1.62] 08 SexLabAroused.esm [Version 2.8] 09 Devious Devices - Assets.esm [Version 2.8.3] 0A Devious Devices - Integration.esm 0B Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 0C CreatureFramework.esm [Version 1.0.0] 0D ZaZAnimationPack.esm 0E ApachiiHair.esm 0F ApachiiHairFemales.esm 10 SkyMoMod.esm 11 TERAArmors.esm 12 HighResTexturePack01.esp 13 HighResTexturePack02.esp 14 HighResTexturePack03.esp 15 calleb96- enhanced gold mod.esp 16 SkyUI.esp 17 RaceMenu.esp 18 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 19 FNIS.esp 1A Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp 1B Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 1C EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 1D KS Hairdo's.esp 1E MoreNastyCritters.esp 1F SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 20 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 21 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 22 SimpleSlavery.esp 23 xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp [Version No.] 24 Slaverun_Reloaded.esp 25 Dark_Forests.esp 26 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 27 TKDodge.esp 28 Duel - Combat Realism.esp 29 SLALAnimObj.esp 2A KomAnimObjects.esp 2B SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 2C UIExtensions.esp 2D SexLabDefeat.esp 2E FNISSexyMove.esp 2F ScarletDawnArmor.esp 30 EdhildilsWitchDoctor.esp 31 WWW.esp 32 SOSRaceMenu.esp 33 XPMSE.esp 34 SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp 35 zzzSXP.esp 36 InigoPerkPointGiver.esp 37 VioLens.esp [Version 2.11] 38 Gatti12Jewelry.esp 39 NewmCeremRedone.esp 3A ApepiBetterCollege.esp 3B RealisticWaterTwo.esp 3C The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns.esp 3D BD UUNP Armor and cloth replacer.esp 3E Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp [Version v6.5.2b] 3F ebonvale.esp 40 EpicSolitude.esp 41 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp [Version v6.5.2a] 42 ELFX - Weathers.esp 43 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 44 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 45 Immersive Weapons.esp 46 HentaiCreatures.esp 47 SMIM-Merged-All.esp 48 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 49 SexLab_Solutions.esp 4A JKs LITE - Riften.esp 4B RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp 4C SexLab_Dialogues.esp 4D RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp 4E JKs LITE - Windhelm.esp 4F Ghosu - Project Flintlock.esp 50 RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp 51 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 52 Werehide.esp 53 PAN_NPCs.esp 54 Unique Uniques.esp [Version 1.8] 55 JKs LITE - Markarth.esp 56 hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp 57 NewmDaedricBikMermM2.esp 58 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp [Version 9] 59 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 5A Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 3.1.7] 5B ELFXEnhancer.esp 5C GPArmorPack3.esp 5D RoadInspections.esp 5E SLAdv_GoldWeight.esp 5F SLAdventures.esp 60 JKs Whiterun.esp [Version 1.2] 61 JKs Whiterun exterior.esp [Version 1.2] 62 Infinite Gold For Merchants.esp 63 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 64 chfshImbuedSword.esp 65 Windstad Manor Fortification.esp 66 Housecarlsrevamp.esp 67 ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp 68 BlackthornManor.esp 69 My Home Is Your Home.esp 6A ssapbwk.esp 6B Enchanting - IDWIW.esp 6C female mannequins.esp 6D female mannequins in homes.esp 6E PAN_NPCs_DG.esp 6F PAN_Serana.esp 70 Emfy Cleric Robes.esp 71 ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp 72 GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp 73 Devious Cidhna.esp 74 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 75 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 1.2.9] Papyrus.0.log 72.11 kB · 1 download While the most common cause of getting a CTD at the same location is a missing or corrupt mesh, this can also happen with some of the older versions of More Nasty Critters. Since you have SexLabNudeCreatures in your load order you likely have one of those older versions. I would encourage you to go back to MNC and update your version. Bear in mind that, since that will remove a number of mods from your load order you will likely have to start a new game to see the benefit.
Johnykage555 Posted July 27, 2019 Author Posted July 27, 2019 49 minutes ago, Psalam said: While the most common cause of getting a CTD at the same location is a missing or corrupt mesh, this can also happen with some of the older versions of More Nasty Critters. Since you have SexLabNudeCreatures in your load order you likely have one of those older versions. I would encourage you to go back to MNC and update your version. Bear in mind that, since that will remove a number of mods from your load order you will likely have to start a new game to see the benefit. I was afraid i'd have to do that (starting anew) , i'll try that thanks for the headsup!
yatol Posted July 27, 2019 Posted July 27, 2019 31 minutes ago, Johnykage555 said: I was afraid i'd have to do that (starting anew) , i'll try that thanks for the headsup! so you are going to restart from helgen, redo the cidna quest, and hope you will be able to go back to markarth this time? strange way of fixing problems anyway, the blabla about mnc above is useless bullshit if that ctd was because of a creature using wrong skeleton or whatever... you wouldn't have been able to enter markarth to do the cidna quest what's the point to copy paste the same useless bullshit every time they see a topic about ctd? that ctd is most likely related to the corpses you left behind (leaving cidna, you were able to enter markarth) to check that, look for a mod that shorten the world reset, open that in tesedit and make it one hour (that take 5 min and you now have your esp to not have to sleep x days like some) load your save, go to markarth stable, player.placeatme wolf, kill it, enter the stable, wait one hour, leave the stable, if wolf corpse is gone, world is reset enter markarth, if that no longer ctd, don't be so happy, you were able to load those npc to kill them, you have some crap that make you unable to reload them after you kill them (that can be racemenu.dll if that thing still create ctd zone every time you decapitate something) if that still ctd, bet you had some stack dumps during that quest, that broke it if you don't have dialog for next quest during civil war, you look for global value cwsomething in last siege quest, look for that in savegamecleaner, then search what it is supposed to be at the end of the quest in the script if you break cidna or another one, you can fix it the same way... but it's faster to just reload your save before leaving cidna, kill the guards, escape markart, then directly go back if you don't ctd this time... you just got lucky, don't rely on luck check the log size, if it's huge, ctrl f stack dump, look for those scripts in tesedit, and give them conditions (no need to load defeat on an actor that isn't in combat, same for enhanced blood, no need to load auto unequip ammo on an actor that don't have a bow, stack dump are just that, scripts that were load for nothing, and... were dump to make room for more scripts that are load for nothing) and if you see some scripts from a mod you did month ago, that is just turning on a candle or whatever... that's how you end up with a lot of useless scripts that are load to do nothing, get rid of that mod the delete the leftover with savegamecleaner (only if clicking on delete broken scripts, don't break anything from skyrim.esm, mod x give a fail script to aela, aela have compagnon quest, if deleting the fail script break compagnon quest, you are stuck with that fail script)
Johnykage555 Posted August 3, 2019 Author Posted August 3, 2019 On 7/27/2019 at 11:05 PM, yatol said: look for a mod that shorten the world reset How do i check that?
Tiress Posted August 6, 2019 Posted August 6, 2019 On 8/3/2019 at 6:30 PM, Johnykage555 said: How do i check that? Using console commands might be easier: setgs iHoursToRespawnCell 1 setgs iHoursToRespawnCellCleared 1 After that wait for a day or two and cells should be reset. To set original values back, use commands below. setgs iHoursToRespawnCell 240 setgs iHoursToRespawnCellCleared 720
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