Feminine Male Sim?

[ShineXXX]

Hello. So basically, I'm aware that a guy's body is different than a girl's body irl, but I don't care much about realism. I'd love to create some feminine looking guys with slender bodies, for example to recreate anime characters and such. But whenever I try to do that, and get the face perfect, the body is so muscular and weird looking it just kills it for me (even if I use female frame). Is there some mod or any other way to make a slender feminine looking guy? It would be perfect if I could use the female body and just add a penis, but sadly the sim has a chest too then.

[Reginald_001]

1 hour ago, ShineXXX said:

Hello. So basically, I'm aware that a guy's body is different than a girl's body irl, but I don't care much about realism. I'd love to create some feminine looking guys with slender bodies, for example to recreate anime characters and such. But whenever I try to do that, and get the face perfect, the body is so muscular and weird looking it just kills it for me (even if I use female frame). Is there some mod or any other way to make a slender feminine looking guy? It would be perfect if I could use the female body and just add a penis, but sadly the sim has a chest too then.

I can't really help you here and I'm sorry for this remark, but I just found this really interesting and fascinating.

I read your post and imagined for a second that we are 'gods' creating our own realities.. going on a forum to check with other 'gods' how they made their realities. Then I thought.. what if that's exactly how it went.. God went online.. asking questions like.. 'Can't get the gender right'.. 'Possible to make humans with both penis and vagina?'... 'How do you get the wind to stabilize?'.. 'What's the best percentage to disperse the criminal genes?'... Threads like 'show us your world'.. etc..etc..

 

Anyway, sorry for hijacking this. I hope someone can help you quickly get what you are looking for.

[Mariana Soprano]

So far I ve puzzled female looking guys (focus on the face):

I ve used a male sims changed to female body (and penis tool) and used male skins, naked male tops, outfits / tops for males but never had a special mod for this.

Often the neck is not in harmony with the top of the shoulders and / or the head. But this sims do not got tits at all.

 

The last picture at the spoiler shows my problems with the lower body with the female frame when the male sims naked, sometimes the penis was also not solid on the lower body (some regular males show this issue too)

 

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

Sorry I care about realism, because anime style often looks 1. childish and 2. sometimes more or less hidden pedo.

[deathbywesker]

I think I found a solution to what your looking for, but they are body presets and I think it only alters the young adult male body structure and facial proportions. I think it's by a Chinese simmer but I don't remember their name or tumblr at the moment, but I'll add a link here when I find out.   

[heartbeatsandbrainwaves]

A male Sim with a feminine frame should look as slender as a female sim with a feminine frame, so just play with body sliders more. If your sim is too muscular, play with the weight sliders. Don't forget to drag parts of the body around to resize them. Slender shoulders do a lot more for the overall look than you may first assume.

[R-Lo]

36 minutes ago, heartbeatsandbrainwaves said:

A male Sim with a feminine frame should look as slender as a female sim with a feminine frame, so just play with body sliders more. If your sim is too muscular, play with the weight sliders. Don't forget to drag parts of the body around to resize them. Slender shoulders do a lot more for the overall look than you may first assume.

Im finding that when I alter the physique of a female frame male sim, the body keeps getting reset back to a default build, 

All muscle and adjustment I add is completely gone, 

Any idea what causes that or how to fix it? 

[2cool4u_1]

2 hours ago, R-Lo said:

Im finding that when I alter the physique of a female frame male sim, the body keeps getting reset back to a default build, 

All muscle and adjustment I add is completely gone, 

Any idea what causes that or how to fix it? 

It seems to be a bug. It wasn't there before. If you use a preset with a body like Bella's for example and straighten it out, it will also reset. I've noticed it since the update before "Strangerville" (with feminine-framed males. I never checked masculine females). Zerbu's CAS presets has hundreds of presets, so I've just been picking a preset that is most to my liking, and it's been working for me. Though I don't make a lot of feminine males, but I was doing a lot of experimenting for my gender-swap story (now on hold).

 

7 hours ago, ShineXXX said:

 It would be perfect if I could use the female body and just add a penis, but sadly the sim has a chest too then.

 

Sim #1 is a standard feminine frame male

Sim #2 is female with male body parts (LUUMIA's BODE II Lean, Noir's average male penis *for males, not for females). I removed her breasts.

Sim #3 & 4 are feminine frame males with female presets (#4 I modified and it reset like R-Lo mentioned)

[deathbywesker]

Here's the link to Qianqiu's tumblr: https://qianqiu-sh.tumblr.com/

 

I don't know if this is what you're looking for but try experimenting with their presets. 

[ShineXXX]

Okay so, it's possible I'm using the sliders wrong, but these are two variants of my male sim with female frame (the penis apparently doesn't show in CAS then). I used slender shoulders and waist, and I tried experimenting with the sliders but I can't seem to get rid of the very prominent bones and muscles, unless I make him almost fat (look at the sliders).

 

It overall looks very weird to me.

 

 

My female sim in comparison has a nice shape and no muscles or visible bones.

 

Maybe it's just me, but I guess I understand "female frame" as "girl body without boobs", and that's not really what it looks like.

[ShineXXX]

On 5/9/2019 at 4:16 PM, 2cool4u_1 said:

It seems to be a bug. It wasn't there before. If you use a preset with a body like Bella's for example and straighten it out, it will also reset. I've noticed it since the update before "Strangerville" (with feminine-framed males. I never checked masculine females). Zerbu's CAS presets has hundreds of presets, so I've just been picking a preset that is most to my liking, and it's been working for me. Though I don't make a lot of feminine males, but I was doing a lot of experimenting for my gender-swap story (now on hold).

 

 

Sim #1 is a standard feminine frame male

Sim #2 is female with male body parts (LUUMIA's BODE II Lean, Noir's average male penis *for males, not for females). I removed her breasts.

Sim #3 & 4 are feminine frame males with female presets (#4 I modified and it reset like R-Lo mentioned)

Could you explain to me, maybe with links, how exactly you made the last three sims? And what the sliders are at. I'm not sure how to remove breasts or something.

[2cool4u_1]

On 5/15/2019 at 12:14 AM, ShineXXX said:

Could you explain to me, maybe with links, how exactly you made the last three sims? And what the sliders are at. I'm not sure how to remove breasts or something.

The last 2 sims are male (feminine frame), but have female body presets. Zerbu added hundreds of new body types for males and females, and also enabled feminine males to use female presets. I picked a female preset (there are better ones if you look for them). You can get it here;

https://zerbu.tumblr.com/post/175487446125/what-happened-to-the-cas-presets-mod

I HIGHLY recommend you use the facial presets too. I can guarantee randomly generated sims, in CAS and in world, will look noticeably better!

You used to be able to pick any body preset and adjust it, but due to a recent bug (as @R-Lo pointed out) any adjustments will get changed back to default (except for Fitness & Fat sliders), so you have to pick one that looks decent.

Spoiler

This is in the last row

 

This is 4 under the last male preset.

 

 This is another example somewhere in the middle (there are more).

 

This is directly under the last male preset (I increased the fitness slider).

 

Sim #2 is female. I like this alternative, but it will make a difference in clothing options, and gameplay (things like using public washrooms). I used the following cheat to remove the breast slider (you need to enter & exit CAS for it to take effect);

Female sims - remove breasts

Traits.equip_trait Breasts_ForceOff

Spoiler

Male sims - add breasts

Traits.equip_trait Breasts_ForceOn
 

To undo these cheats;

Female sims - add breasts

Traits.remove_trait Breasts_ForceOff

 

Male sims - remove breasts

Traits.remove_trait Breasts_ForceOn

I then edited the WW add-on files for males, to allow females to choose them

Spoiler

 

Copy & paste the highlighted part. Change the Pink pat to say "FEMALE" instead of "MALE". The Yellow part is the name that shows up in the Body Selector menu. You can change it to whatever you want.

 

** If you want to use Noir's parts there is substantially more work. She included the add-on snippet tuning for every part on each part. For example 'soft penises'; the 'small uncut soft' will have info for every size, cut and uncut. They will overwrite each other, so you either have to delete the ones you edit from all the other options, or add the new edit to all of them.

 

If you need any more help, feel free to ask. ?

[ShineXXX]

On 5/15/2019 at 4:28 PM, 2cool4u_1 said:

The last 2 sims are male (feminine frame), but have female body presets. Zerbu added hundreds of new body types for males and females, and also enabled feminine males to use female presets. I picked a female preset (there are better ones if you look for them). You can get it here;

https://zerbu.tumblr.com/post/175487446125/what-happened-to-the-cas-presets-mod

I HIGHLY recommend you use the facial presets too. I can guarantee randomly generated sims, in CAS and in world, will look noticeably better!

You used to be able to pick any body preset and adjust it, but due to a recent bug (as @R-Lo pointed out) any adjustments will get changed back to default (except for Fitness & Fat sliders), so you have to pick one that looks decent.

  Reveal hidden contents

This is in the last row

 

This is 4 under the last male preset.

 

 This is another example somewhere in the middle (there are more).

 

This is directly under the last male preset (I increased the fitness slider).

 

Sim #2 is female. I like this alternative, but it will make a difference in clothing options, and gameplay (things like using public washrooms). I used the following cheat to remove the breast slider (you need to enter & exit CAS for it to take effect);

Female sims - remove breasts

Traits.equip_trait Breasts_ForceOff

  Reveal hidden contents

Male sims - add breasts

Traits.equip_trait Breasts_ForceOn
 

To undo these cheats;

Female sims - add breasts

Traits.remove_trait Breasts_ForceOff

 

Male sims - remove breasts

Traits.remove_trait Breasts_ForceOn

I then edited the WW add-on files for males, to allow females to choose them

  Hide contents

 

Copy & paste the highlighted part. Change the Pink pat to say "FEMALE" instead of "MALE". The Yellow part is the name that shows up in the Body Selector menu. You can change it to whatever you want.

 

** If you want to use Noir's parts there is substantially more work. She included the add-on snippet tuning for every part on each part. For example 'soft penises'; the 'small uncut soft' will have info for every size, cut and uncut. They will overwrite each other, so you either have to delete the ones you edit from all the other options, or add the new edit to all of them.

 

If you need any more help, feel free to ask. ?

Okay, thank you for all the info! You used the Sims 4 Studio for the last part, correct? Will any of this somehow mess with my existing sims? For example, I don't want female Sims to randomly have no breasts or a penis (or also randomly created future Sims in the game).

 

I got the cheat to work, however, those are still small breasts imo? Also, I'm not sure the small nipples next to the big nipples are supposed to be there.

 

 

Smallest female breast size

 

Not really a difference other than the double nipples imho  Maybe I'm doing this wrong...

[2cool4u_1]

10 hours ago, ShineXXX said:

I got the cheat to work, however, those are still small breasts imo? Also, I'm not sure the small nipples next to the big nipples are supposed to be there.

 

 

Smallest female breast size

 

The pics are not showing up for me. I just have text. Could you try using .png files?

 

10 hours ago, ShineXXX said:

Okay, thank you for all the info! You used the Sims 4 Studio for the last part, correct?

Yes. If you don't have it, or need me to do it for you (for any reason), I can. I just need to know which male parts you want to allow your female to have.

 

10 hours ago, ShineXXX said:

Will any of this somehow mess with my existing sims? For example, I don't want female Sims to randomly have no breasts or a penis (or also randomly created future Sims in the game).

The cheat will remove the breast slider for the active sim only. The penis is given to sims of your choice individually through Wicked Whims. Modifying the add-on files will make them available for all female sims, but it will only be equipped to the sims you choose.

 

10 hours ago, ShineXXX said:

I got the cheat to work, however, those are still small breasts imo? Also, I'm not sure the small nipples next to the big nipples are supposed to be there.

Not really a difference other than the double nipples imho  Maybe I'm doing this wrong...

The cheat only removes the slider; It should automatically make them the smallest size, and you should not be able to adjust them any bigger. However, the female top mesh, still has the shape of breasts. This is why we need to use a male top.

[ShineXXX]

Yes, you are right about the breast slider. The problem (and what the pictures showed) is that even with the cheat, the breast is only as small as smallest female size (with weird nipples somehow), and not actually flat like a male chest. However, it seems I cannot choose a male chest for a (otherwise female but with dick) Sim. I tried using the cheat to create a "futanari" (since there are dicks for that), to keep the female shape and add a dick, but it's not working the way I want it to since I can't get a male chest.

[2cool4u_1]

3 hours ago, ShineXXX said:

The problem (and what the pictures showed) is that even with the cheat, the breast is only as small as smallest female size (with weird nipples somehow), and not actually flat like a male chest.

Yes. That's why you need a male chest. Try adding these 2 files, and let me know if it works.

 

LUUMIA_BODEII_Lean.package

WickedWhims_ADD-ON_LuumiaBodeII by Simite.package

 

 

You might have to select it in CAS afterwards (maybe). It's in the [TOPS] > [VESTS] category. Remove the [FEMININE] tag.

[ShineXXX]

Thank you so much. I will try this out asap. Also sorry for late replies, very busy with work atm.

[2cool4u_1]

3 hours ago, ShineXXX said:

Thank you so much. I will try this out asap. Also sorry for late replies, very busy with work atm.

No need to apologize. I try to reply when I can, but you've been waiting for this to work for over a month. Just let me know if it works, or not.

[ShineXXX]

Hey, I tested it, and the chest works. But now there's a different problem. The chest doesn't seem to fit with the lower half of the body, there's clipping. I took a screenshot, I hope you can view it. I tried all dicks I had and it's the same with every one (the dick also seems to be very low placed, but I guess that's because of the female frame), and also persists if I make the waist wider so I have no idea how to fix this.

[2cool4u_1]

31 minutes ago, ShineXXX said:

now there's a different problem. The chest doesn't seem to fit with the lower half of the body, there's clipping.

Sorry, I gave you a male top, but you also need a male bottom, so that it can line up properly. I can edit for you;

1] Noir's Pornstar cock

2] Noir's Futanari Penis (with or without testicles)

3] Better Body Penis

4] Lunar Eclipse Penis

 

Which do you prefer?

[ShineXXX]

I thought the Better Body penis doesn't work anymore? Since I cannot select it in WW. If it works though I'd like that one, because it makes a nicer ass imo.

 

How exactly are you editing it if I may ask, in case I want to replicate it for other ones later?

 

Thank you so much for taking the time to do this.

 

Also, my next reply might be slow since I'm going on a short trip tomorrow, I will reply here once I'm back.

[2cool4u_1]

7 hours ago, ShineXXX said:

I thought the Better Body penis doesn't work anymore? Since I cannot select it in WW. If it works though I'd like that one, because it makes a nicer ass imo.

 

How exactly are you editing it if I may ask, in case I want to replicate it for other ones later?

I don't use Better Body, but I have an Add-on for it. I'll try to do it and see if it works.

 

To edit body parts to be selectable for the opposite gender in WW, look at my May 15 reply, at the bottom.

 

 

EDIT: I did the Better Body penis. As I said I don't use it, so I don't know if there are special skin tones needed for it. It works, but the penis is black. If there are skin tones or tattoo overlays you have and want to use it;

 

[BB][Male]BottomSoft.package

[BB][Male]BottomHard.package

WickedWhims_ADD-ON_BetterBody Penis by guedesrs.package

 

Otherwise, I also did LunarEclipse's penis.

LunarEclipse_Simple_Penis.package

 

[ShineXXX]

Thank you so much. I will test this asap and let you know.

[2cool4u_1]

1 hour ago, ShineXXX said:

Thank you so much. I will test this asap and let you know.

No problem.

[ShineXXX]

On 6/25/2019 at 4:35 PM, 2cool4u_1 said:

No problem.

Hello, just got around to testing it. As you said, the Better Body penis is black, I'm not sure how to fix this. Also, the LunarEclipse Penis does not appear on the Sim at all.

[2cool4u_1]

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1 hour ago, ShineXXX said:

Hello, just got around to testing it. As you said, the Better Body penis is black, I'm not sure how to fix this. Also, the LunarEclipse Penis does not appear on the Sim at all.

I believe the BB penis needs special skintones, though I'm not sure. I just tried a new game, and the LunarEclipse penis is working for me.

 

 

 

I just tried adding the penis here. I didn't change the top or anything else. Of course you would. I'm a little disappointed as I had hoped we finally got it. ?