cloudmc Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Ok it appears my crash is being caused by DynDOLOD Texture Output or DYNDOLOD Output. Is it safe to enable one of those at a time or do they need to both be on? Also this issue is still happening; Spoiler Nifscan does not like my DynDOLOD Output Spoiler NifScan.exe NifScan 0.3.2, starting to scan... Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_blackreach.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_blackreach_n.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_deepwoodredoubtworld.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_deepwoodredoubtworld_n.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_dlc01falmervalley.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_dlc01falmervalley_n.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_dlc01soulcairn.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_dlc01soulcairn_n.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_dlc1hunterhqworld.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_dlc1hunterhqworld_n.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_dlc2apocryphaworld.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_dlc2apocryphaworld_n.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_dlc2solstheimworld.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_dlc2solstheimworld_n.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_japhetsfollyworld.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_japhetsfollyworld_n.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_markarthworld.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_markarthworld_n.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_skuldafnworld.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_skuldafnworld_n.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_sovngarde.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_sovngarde_n.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_tamriel00.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_tamriel00_n.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_tamriel01.dds Error reading file textures\dyndolod\lod\dyndolod_tamriel01_n.dds Error reading file textures\terrain\deepwoodredoubtworld\trees\deepwoodredoubtworldtreelod.dds Error reading file textures\terrain\dlc01falmervalley\trees\dlc01falmervalleytreelod.dds Error reading file textures\terrain\dlc1hunterhqworld\trees\dlc1hunterhqworldtreelod.dds Error reading file textures\terrain\dlc2solstheimworld\trees\dlc2solstheimworldtreelod.dds Error reading file textures\terrain\markarthworld\trees\markarthworldtreelod.dds Error reading file textures\terrain\skuldafnworld\trees\skuldafnworldtreelod.dds Error reading file textures\terrain\sovngarde\trees\sovngardetreelod.dds Error reading file textures\terrain\tamriel\trees\tamrieltreelod.dds [Done] Checked 0 file(s) But it appears my DynDOLOD Texture Output is good Spoiler NifScan.exe NifScan 0.3.2, starting to scan... [Done] Checked 194 file(s) Riften is still crashing me when going to the gate... back to the drawing board.... nifscan files a lot of bad meshes in my mods folder, should I ignore the output or is that something telling? Link to comment
Aylis Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 @cloudmc Both needed to be activated. Otherwise it won't work correctly and might even cause CTD. Check out the tutorial videos i linked to and take a look at the section 'Tips and Tricks'. But there's definitely something wrong with your installation. The ground doesn't look like it should and the torches are obvious. If that error with nifscope is normal is something i can't say. I never used that software. ______________________________________ There will be an update in a few days. This time i'll be adding a few mods for details and other improvements. Atm i'm thinking about removing the 'Hedge Mage Armor'. The OA hasn't been that active for years and everyone i asked for help about a patch for JoP has given up on it. That armor seems to be way too complicated for external assistance. Its a real shame as that armor is otherwise very good and has always been in my loadorder. There are afaik only three small bugs left which i still try to fix. Most won't even notice them, but i don't like even small ones. ? 2 Link to comment
jaeos Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 11 hours ago, asebw said: That issue has been resolved. I had a bit of a learning moment understanding how the overwrite is supposed to actually work in MO2. however my voluble friend, i was simply trying to understand the nature of the issue for my own knowledge in case it was something i hadn't come across before. Link to comment
jaeos Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Kythana said: @cloudmc Both needed to be activated. Otherwise it won't work correctly and might even cause CTD. Check out the tutorial videos i linked to and take a look at the section 'Tips and Tricks'. But there's definitely something wrong with your installation. The ground doesn't look like it should and the torches are obvious. If that error with nifscope is normal is something i can't say. I never used that software. is it possible to feed cloudmc the zip file for textures and then have cloud re-run the second part and see if that fixes it? Link to comment
cloudmc Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Is it bad if Gimp can't open one of the dds files? "Verdant 1.6c short grass for SE\textures\landscape\grass\snowgrass01.dds" Link to comment
jaeos Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, cloudmc said: Is it bad if Gimp can't open one of the dds files? "Verdant 1.6c short grass for SE\textures\landscape\grass\snowgrass01.dds" depends on if you have the dds plugin or not Link to comment
jaeos Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Just now, cloudmc said: yeah with BC7 support then yes it's a bad thing Link to comment
Aylis Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 @jaeos That will only work if he has exactly the same setup for textures as i have. Otherwise there will be problems. I tried to cut corners with DynDOLOD before. The results were not good… @cloudmc Rename the file ending to 'dds2' and try again. If that still doesn't work take a look into the 'Files' section and the links at the bottom of 'labia for all skins'. Link to comment
cloudmc Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 ok that worked, it opened when named dds2, weird it has only been that one file so far Link to comment
cloudmc Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Trying to scan all of my dds files right now, it will take a little... ---- Well that was fun... so all of my dds files and tga seem to be in order. I am at a loss of what is causing the random CTD. Any chance you could look at my load order and make sure I didn't mess something up? Spoiler # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. 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Live Another Life.esp JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp CFTO-JK-Patch.esp Landscape For Grass Mods JK'S Skyrim.esp Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Cutting Room Floor Locations.esp Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp Qw_BookCoversSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp Qw_Luminosity_CRF Patch.esp Qw_Ordinator_AOS Patch.esp Qw_S3DLandscapes_CRF Patch.esp DynDOLOD.esm DynDOLOD.esp I have double checked and it appears to be the same order as you had the mods listed in with the esm and esl files moved. Ofc I did not move the esl marked esp files and it appeared in your screen shot that those stayed in the same place. --- Nevermind, it appears I missed one of the sisterhood files I had. Once disabled I can go to Riften, Windhelm and hopefully to the shack... As for why my flames and road are messed up... idk, I have 98% of the same mods as you, in the same order. Link to comment
jaeos Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 6 hours ago, cloudmc said: Trying to scan all of my dds files right now, it will take a little... ---- Well that was fun... so all of my dds files and tga seem to be in order. I am at a loss of what is causing the random CTD. Any chance you could look at my load order and make sure I didn't mess something up? Reveal hidden contents # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. 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Live Another Life.esp JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp CFTO-JK-Patch.esp Landscape For Grass Mods JK'S Skyrim.esp Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Cutting Room Floor Locations.esp Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp Qw_BookCoversSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp Qw_Luminosity_CRF Patch.esp Qw_Ordinator_AOS Patch.esp Qw_S3DLandscapes_CRF Patch.esp DynDOLOD.esm DynDOLOD.esp I have double checked and it appears to be the same order as you had the mods listed in with the esm and esl files moved. Ofc I did not move the esl marked esp files and it appeared in your screen shot that those stayed in the same place. --- Nevermind, it appears I missed one of the sisterhood files I had. Once disabled I can go to Riften, Windhelm and hopefully to the shack... 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Includes Water Edge Bug Fix +ET3D - Every Tree 3D Different +TES5LODGen +Skyrim 3D Trees and Plants +HD LODs Textures SE +Winter Aspen Billboards +Enhanced Vanilla Trees BillBoards Generator +Enhanced Vanilla Trees +DynDOLOD Resources SE +Verdant 1.6c short grass for SE +Verdant - Altered Snow Grass +Verdant - Altered Forest Grass +Verdant 1.6.1 SSE Edition +Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin +High Poly Project +Static Mesh Improvement Mod +A. 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Aylis Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 @cloudmc Going through that everything seems to be OK. But, and thats a big one, i couldn't test all the patches for the CC as i only got two of them (when they were free ?). Start a new game and deactivate all the patches for them. Maybe one of them got a hidden conflict with one (or more) of the other mods in the list and causes the crashes. ? Link to comment
Aylis Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 Found a video that almost (there are minor differences) shows how the game looks on my side: >> Click Me! << Link to comment
cloudmc Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 @jaeos yeah mine is a different order than yours, I have matched mine to Kythana's order. I did notice I had some of the ones that Kythana doesn't have in a different location so I moved them closer to where you had them. I did notice you have your DLC cleaned, when I tried to do that it broke my Hearthfires I think. @Kythana Yeah I have been collecting them when they are free and sometimes when they are not So the new game would be to test if it crashes in an area or not with each of the patches? I am still really inexperienced at modding, I gave up on Skyrim LE due to crashes and such a while back. Then moved to FO4 and it's fun, finding you post on how to mod it. Then I came back to Skyrim this time SE to follow you list. One thing, have you thought about changing the esp files that support it to esl lite? Its an easy process, but I don't know how much it will effect things since they now all load in the 254/5 slot. Link to comment
Aylis Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, cloudmc said: So the new game would be to test if it crashes in an area or not with each of the patches? Thats the general idea. ? Remove them all and make a testrun. If that works we'll look further. In the worst case i have to kick the patches off the list and add a warning. If only one causes crashes that would make me worry what the other ones might cause in other hidden corners of the engine... Link to comment
asebw Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 14 hours ago, jaeos said: however my voluble friend, i was simply trying to understand the nature of the issue for my own knowledge in case it was something i hadn't come across before. Sufficed to say, though I started modding with FO4, trying to get skyrim modded and working has been quite the learning experience for me. Part of the problem I was having was not understanding just how the overwrite folder works, and why/how Kythana made mods out of its contents. By the time you had posted your first question on the subject, I had everything figured out. Link to comment
asebw Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 14 hours ago, cloudmc said: Trying to scan all of my dds files right now, it will take a little... ---- Well that was fun... so all of my dds files and tga seem to be in order. I am at a loss of what is causing the random CTD. Any chance you could look at my load order and make sure I didn't mess something up? Reveal hidden contents # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. 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Men of Winter Patch.esp Hedge Mage Armor.esp HN66_Earrings.esp JS Armored Circlets SE.esp LeftHandRings-1stPersonView.esp LeftHandRings.esp lightebonymail.esp LustmordVampireArmor.esp Peacekeeper Armour.esp Baraban-Steel-Plate-Replacer.esp Billyro's Weapons.esp CL's Rapier.esp Real Bound Bow (ABA).esp Pick Best Arrow.esp Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp AMatterOfTime.esp Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp Animated Weapon Enchants.esp Bad Slaughterfish.esp Bathing in Skyrim - Bruma.esp Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp Bathing in Skyrim SE - Alternate Start.esp Better Vampires.esp AK- Boethiah Alternate.esp CFTO.esp CWneutral.esp CollectBonesAndScales.esp TimingIsEverything.esp Dawnguard Vampire.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp UFD Enhanced Soultrap.esp SkyrimRecycling_noExp.esp SkyrimRecycling_JSAC.esp NoFalmerEars.esp Undriel_FallingGildergreenPetals.esp FloraRespawnFix.esp BSHeartlandFRF.esp Footprints.esp Fort Takeovers.esp FT - Duskwatch Tower.esp FT - Fort Fellhammer.esp Skyrim Realistic Conquering - Falkreath Watchtower.esp Skyrim Realistic Conquering - Valtheim Towers.esp Gildergreen Regrown.esp GoToBed.esp GoToBed-cc-firewood-patch.esp HearthFires Display Case Fix SE.esp Immersive Encounters.esp ImprovedMeeko-UnarmoredHusky.esp LustmordVampireArmor - JoP Patch.esp Peacekeeper Amour - JoP Patch.esp Guards_Armor_Replacer - JoP Patch.esp Classic Morag Tong Armor - JoP Patch.esp Jop - BrumaPatch.esp LinenWrapRecipe.esp FalmerLoot.esp MannequinChicks.esp MannequinStayPut.esp MBWSFollowersReplacer.esp Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp MoonlightTalesMCM.esp sandboxcylinderheight.esp NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp One With Nature.esp OpulentThievesGuild.esp OpulentThievesGuildPatch.esp Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp 50 More Perk Points.esp ReadingImprovesSpeech.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp ShezrieWinstadGreenhouse.esp ShezriesLakeviewkitchen.esp shezrieswinstadhearthfirekitchen.esp shezrieslakeviewgreenhouse.esp shezrieshfkitchenhel.esp shezhelgreenhouse.esp SmoothShores.esp Susana Death Outfit Modifie.esp ArcheryDummyXP.esp Men of Winter.esp VioLens SE.esp WetandCold.esp WetandCold - Fur Hoods Fix.esp YOT - Andromeda.esp YOT - Bone Wolf.esp YOT - Camping.esp YOT - Civil War Champions.esp YOT - Cutting Room Floor.esp YOT - Eli Breezehome.esp YOT - Forgotten Seasons.esp YOT - Moonlight Tales Overhaul.esp YOT - Myrwatch.esp YOT - Nix Hound.esp YOT - Ordinator.esp YOT - Pets of Skyrim.esp YOT - Shadowfoot.esp YOT - Shadowrend.esp YOT - Survival Mode.esp YOT - Tundra Homestead.esp YOT - Umbra.esp YOT - Vigil Enforcer Armor Set.esp YOT - Wet and Cold.esp YOT - Wild Horses.esp YOT - Wraithguard.esp YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp AllThievesGuildJobsConcurrently.esp J42_ArmorRatingRedux.esp Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Enhanced Blood Patch.esp EWS.esp MMI.esp Realistic-Voice.esp RealisticHuskySoundsSSE.esp Serana Dialogue Edit.esp Malukah tavern music replacer.esp iLuvLoading.esp Obsidian Weathers.esp TrueStormsSE.esp Obsidian_TS_AOS_Patch.esp Obsidian_TS_Patch_Luminous.esp Obsidian_TS_Patch_Luminous_WaterFix.esp Obsidian_TS_Wet&Cold_Patch.esp mintylightningmod.esp TrueStorms_MintyLightning_Patch.esp Morning Fogs SSE.esp Luminosity Lighting Overhaul.esp maplightfix.esp ImprovedHearthfireLighting.esp Smoking Torches And Candles.esp EmbersHD.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SexLabDefeat.esp SexLab Inflation Framework.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp HentaiCreatures.esp SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp HagravenSkinShaders.esp EstrusChaurus.esp SexLab-Parasites.esp AnimatedParasites.esp DW.esp SexLabDangerousNights2.esp ABMM.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp Fertility Mode.esp EggFactory.esp SexlabLightMeUp.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp CFTO-JK-Patch.esp Landscape For Grass Mods JK'S Skyrim.esp Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Cutting Room Floor Locations.esp Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp Qw_BookCoversSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp Qw_Luminosity_CRF Patch.esp Qw_Ordinator_AOS Patch.esp Qw_S3DLandscapes_CRF Patch.esp DynDOLOD.esm DynDOLOD.esp I have double checked and it appears to be the same order as you had the mods listed in with the esm and esl files moved. Ofc I did not move the esl marked esp files and it appeared in your screen shot that those stayed in the same place. --- Nevermind, it appears I missed one of the sisterhood files I had. Once disabled I can go to Riften, Windhelm and hopefully to the shack... As for why my flames and road are messed up... idk, I have 98% of the same mods as you, in the same order. I can tell you from my own testing/research that CC survival mode and the Unofficial skyrim patch do not work well together. Amongst other things, you will starve (At least that's what happened in my playthrough with it). The camping mode also has issues with other mods. I find that realistic needs 2 and the campfire mod are better alternatives. The CC backpacks kinda works, but the backpacks provided by campfire are much better from what I've seen. One of the things I have noticed with DynDOLOD is that if you mess with your mod list, depending on the mod removed, it can be, to use a term provided in the 2nd post, prissy. It might be worth a try to rebuild your textures and outputs to see if that might help. Also, check your patches. If you have a patch running for something that you've disabled/removed, it can cause you problems. That includes FOMOD mods with built in patches (I ran into this problem when I got rid of CC survival mods ><). 1 Link to comment
cloudmc Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Played for about 30 minutes so far and no CTD, so far this is what I changed. I missed a sisterhood file when disabling so that was disabled, I rebuilt my TexGen with default instead of 1024, same with DynDOLOD. I have checked so far my torches are the only thing that is wrong, wall torches seem to be normal lighting along with the braziers. Would this be textures or something else that is messed up? Could it be my ENB? Link to comment
jaeos Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 5 hours ago, cloudmc said: @jaeos yeah mine is a different order than yours, I have matched mine to Kythana's order. I did notice I had some of the ones that Kythana doesn't have in a different location so I moved them closer to where you had them. I did notice you have your DLC cleaned, when I tried to do that it broke my Hearthfires I think. @Kythana Yeah I have been collecting them when they are free and sometimes when they are not So the new game would be to test if it crashes in an area or not with each of the patches? I am still really inexperienced at modding, I gave up on Skyrim LE due to crashes and such a while back. Then moved to FO4 and it's fun, finding you post on how to mod it. Then I came back to Skyrim this time SE to follow you list. One thing, have you thought about changing the esp files that support it to esl lite? Its an easy process, but I don't know how much it will effect things since they now all load in the 254/5 slot. i am more than willing to give you the cleaned ones, it's a pain in the ass to do it tbh and i was pulling my hair out with xedit at the beginning because of the auto clean feature i failed to notice. Spoiler DLC-Cleaned.7z Link to comment
jaeos Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 hour ago, cloudmc said: Played for about 30 minutes so far and no CTD, so far this is what I changed. I missed a sisterhood file when disabling so that was disabled, I rebuilt my TexGen with default instead of 1024, same with DynDOLOD. I have checked so far my torches are the only thing that is wrong, wall torches seem to be normal lighting along with the braziers. Would this be textures or something else that is messed up? Could it be my ENB? it's gotta be a texture issue (here's why i think so) you have mods not on the List but have followed most of the mod guide, since kythana does not have the same issue, i would posit that it is one of "those" mods, or your dyndolod, did you delete ALL the files in texgen output then re-run it? if so then it is building based on the current mods, if you kept the textures output and it just edited the file then it could be dyndolod as it is the last thing in your load order and if it was an entry that no longer exists but the texture is already built, well.. you get minecraft torches (i think) Link to comment
asebw Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 hour ago, jaeos said: it's gotta be a texture issue (here's why i think so) you have mods not on the List but have followed most of the mod guide, since kythana does not have the same issue, i would posit that it is one of "those" mods, or your dyndolod, did you delete ALL the files in texgen output then re-run it? if so then it is building based on the current mods, if you kept the textures output and it just edited the file then it could be dyndolod as it is the last thing in your load order and if it was an entry that no longer exists but the texture is already built, well.. you get minecraft torches (i think) There's only two or three mods in the list that would effect textures: Smoking torches, embers hd (possibly), and a third one that is a patch for smoking torches. Try disabling these three and see if there is a difference? Also, are you using an ENB? Might be a long shot, but maybe your ENB is being weird? Link to comment
asebw Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 @Kythana For your consideration: Ethereal Elven Overhaul I find that even with the updating mods, still have a 'please feed me, i'm starving' look to them. This is a oldrim mod, but there is a SSE patch that is works for me so far. While not one for the main list, this would be a good one to go in the suggestions pile for people who actually want to play one of the elf races, and not a hybridized human. Link to comment
cloudmc Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 hours ago, jaeos said: i am more than willing to give you the cleaned ones, it's a pain in the ass to do it tbh and i was pulling my hair out with xedit at the beginning because of the auto clean feature i failed to notice. Thanks, yeah auto clean is nice, but that is what f'ed up my Dawnguard (I thought it was HF but I see on the forums I looked at it was DG). I broke the link so people don't just click and try to clean as I do not know if these are the right steps Spoiler h.t.t.p.s://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/articles/875 Link to comment
Aylis Posted June 23, 2019 Author Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, asebw said: For your consideration: Ethereal Elven Overhaul That one is planned for the advanced section. There will be a few things coming up... ? Right now i'm waiting for a few more updates. Those will allow me to delete a few lines in the list and make it easier for you to download and install the mods. The version of the mod will show up in MO2 and the link to the modpage here at LL will also work. Yinkle's new version of 'LightMeUp' shows what i intend to get for as many mods in the list as possible. He's the first one who accepted my idea of a FOMOD and i hope others will follow. The 'Cathedral Concept' might be silly to some, but thats the way i want to approach modding (with the small stones... er... mini-mods i bring along). Spoiler In the Cathedral Concept, we consider modding a joint effort. We share our work with each other to foster further mod development, to keep the community alive, and to contribute in the construction of mods of monumental scale. Individually, our contributions may be small and not worth doing for themselves, but by each person contributing something, we construct something larger and more worthwhile than any of us could do on our own. @cloudmc Also check the texture packs with 'Lanterns' 'Candles' and 'Clutter' in the name. I looked into a thread with a similar problem and there it was a not completely installed texture pack or was something overwritten? ? Can't remember. I saw this one or two months ago. Link to comment
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