ehhhhhhhhhhh Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 whenever i visit solitude the guards instantly start attacking anyone they see. the guards outside the city are fine, and its only solitude guards that do this heres my load order Spoiler Skyrim.esm=1 Update.esm=1 Dawnguard.esm=1 HearthFires.esm=1 Dragonborn.esm=1 Campfire.esm=1 ApachiiHair.esm=1 RaceCompatibility.esm=1 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1 ApachiiHairMales.esm=1 ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1 Femboy Reborn -Base-.esm=1 BSAssets.esm=1 BSHeartland.esm=1 BodyTypes.esm=1 dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm=1 hdtHighHeel.esm=1 BS_DLC_patch.esp=1 CompanionArissa.esm=1 ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1 KameleonArmor.esm=1 SexLab.esm=1 Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1 SexLabAroused.esm=1 Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1 DwarfsRace.esm=1 WM Flora Fixes.esp=1 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1 Rough Leather Armor.esp=1 El_WayfarersCoat.esp=1 12FemaleBrows.esp=1 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp=1 Differently Ebony.esp=1 FreckleMania2.esp=1 Tamriel Reloaded.esp=1 Bijin Warmaidens.esp=1 Bijin Wives.esp=1 FISS.esp=1 SkyUI.esp=1 Paper World Map - Bruma.esp=1 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp=1 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp=1 BSHeartland - Meshes.esp=1 BSHeartland - Textures.esp=1 Dr_BandolierDG.esp=1 AMatterOfTime.esp=1 AncientTonguesSword.esp=1 loners_sword.esp=1 DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp=1 azarhair.esp=1 glimmer.esp=0 LindsRobesPack01_NoReq.esp=1 DrSKnapsacks.esp=1 1nivWICCloaks.esp=1 Simplechainarmor.esp=1 SGEyebrows.esp=1 high res hawk replacement - normal.esp=1 smarter combat ai.esp=1 UUNP Vanilla Outfits.esp=1 clothingjewelryfix.esp=1 stronger dragons.esp=0 insanity's pale blade.esp=1 better_water.esp=1 better embers.esp=1 AdventurersAndTravelers.esp=1 RaceMenu.esp=1 RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1 AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp=1 OCR-Fixes.esp=1 AK_RM_PubicStyles_All_In_One.esp=1 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1 EstrusChaurus.esp=1 TanningSmeltingExp.esp=0 Femboy Reborn -DDA Pack-.esp=1 Devious Devices For Him.esp=1 CookingExpanded - Dragonborn.esp=1 dcc-buttplug.esp=1 SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp=1 SlaveTats.esp=1 SLAnimLoader.esp=1 Blush When Aroused.esp=1 SLPGN.esp=1 UIExtensions.esp=1 SexLabDefeat.esp=1 SLSO.esp=1 Potions - Requiem17.esp=0 lighterpotions.esp=0 SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp=1 BFPoser.esp=1 KomAnimObjects.esp=1 PuppetMasterSwallow.esp=1 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1 FNIS.esp=1 3DNPC.esp=1 Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1 Coins of Tamriel V2.esp=1 Cross Racial Features.esp=1 KZstyle-ELF.esp=1 Coins of Tamriel V2 Dragonborn.esp=1 SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp=1 FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp=1 ArcheryDummyXP.esp=1 SorlisBalarnTreasure.esp=1 SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1 milk.esp=1 Coins of Tamriel V2 Dawnguard.esp=1 Tentapalooza.esp=1 SexLab-Parasites.esp=1 Eli's Coffee Mod.esp=1 tavevillages.esp=1 Hotsprings of Skyrim.esp=1 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1 Catsofskyrim.esp=1 BikiniMaidenFull.esp=1 Dogsofskyrim.esp=1 Equippable Tomes.esp=1 PaladinArtifactsAndArmor.esp=1 amk Border Lace Lingerie.esp=1 HighElfSkinTones.esp=1 DarkElfFemaleMaleSkinsTones.esp=1 WoodElfSkins.esp=1 Coins of Tamriel V2 Hearthfire.esp=1 zxmap.esp=1 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1 LostLongSwords.esp=1 Bijin NPCs.esp=1 Males of Skyrim.esp=1 ShShortswords.esp=1 ThalmorStandalone.esp=1 riften specials.esp=0 Faction Crossbows.esp=1 ExpandedNPCDialogue.esp=1 KameleonArmor.esp=1 iNeed.esp=1 shors stone with a stone.esp=0 NedhegothTheButcher.esp=1 herbaltea.esp=0 IceBladeOfTheMonarch.esp=1 GiftsOfAkatosh.esp=1 CookingExpanded.esp=1 CookingExpanded - Hearthfire.esp=0 chocoyum.esp=1 ExpensiveSkyrim.esp=1 PuppetMaster.esp=1 ClassicClasses.esp=1 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1 Hott Interesting NPCs.esp=1 AddItemMenu2.esp=1 TKDodge.esp=1 Cre_DT_Nit.esp=1 Khajiit Overhaul.esp=1 zzArmormashups.esp=1 MainMenu.esp=1 SL_shrines.esp=1 VivisCockcage.esp=1 NightshadeSuit.esp=1 3PCOFull.esp=1 SOS - Femboy.esp=1 dD Enchanted Chests.esp=1 XPMSE.esp=1 TavernGames.esp=1 _ImoMegane.esp=1 Osare Underwear.esp=1 Worlds Dawn.esp=1 HDT Maid Outfit.esp=1 HDT Maid Outfit Slot Change.esp=0 TwoRings.esp=1 MeltInTheMouth.esp=1 Improved HDR and DoF.esp=1 Improved Interior Lighting.esp=1 Improved Weather.esp=1 Dr_Bandolier.esp=1 Nordic Warmaiden Body Hair.esp=1 UNPCMmix.esp=1 BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp=1 BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp=0 CISCore.esp=1 SkyHUD.esp=1 SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp=1 Peacekeeper Armour.esp=1 WM_WidgetMod.esp=1 Dwemer Beards.esp=1 DwarfsRaceFollowers.esp=1 zzEstrus.esp=1 TradeBarter.esp=1 BijinAIO-2016_3.1.1.esp=1 Mortal Weapons & Armor.esp=1 AnnaNPCs.esp=1 Arachnophobia.esp=1 AnimatedParasites.esp=0 dvmb.esp=1 FadeTattoos.esp=1 MilkModNEW.esp=1 MilkModNEW CF.esp=1 MilkModNEW HF.esp=1 RapeTattoos.esp=1 GirlHeavyArmor.esp=1 GirlHeavyArmorCIS.esp=1 CandyShops.esp=1 tastytaffy.esp=1 teayum.esp=1 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1 Lucien.esp=1 Holds.esp=1 Lucien-Holds-Patch.esp=1 Missives.esp=1 Holidays.esp=1 HoldsAnnaNPCsCompatibilityPatch.esp=1 HoldsArissaCompatibilityPatch.esp=1 Holds - BijinAIO Patch.esp=1 Holds - Bijin NPCs Patch.esp=1 HoldsHolidaysCompatibilityPatch.esp=1 Holds - Missives Patch.esp=1 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp=1 FranklyHDImperialArmorsAndWeapons.esp=1 RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp=1 SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp=1 NewArmoury.esp=1 Yggdrasil Music.esp=1 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp=1 CACO_Varietea_Patch.esp=1 Unique Grasses.esp=1 Apropos2.esp=1 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1 HoldsAlternativeStartCompatibilityPatch.esp=1 iNeed_CACO - Patch.esp=1 CACO-Ordinatored.esp=1 Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1 UGCustum.esp=1 CACO_3DNPC.esp=1 Guards armor replacement.esp=1 CACO_Bathing in Skyrim.esp=1 Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Dragonborn.esp=1 warburg's 3d paper world map - dawnguard.esp=1 Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Texture 1.esp=1 Potions.esp=1 edit: attached my papyrus log Papyrus.0.log
Grey Cloud Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 If that is your load order it needs LOOT running on it for a start.
ehhhhhhhhhhh Posted December 17, 2018 Author Posted December 17, 2018 just ran LOOT, didn't seem to do much also alik'r and imperial patrols are hostile to everyone as well
GenioMaestro Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, ehhhhhhhhhhh said: just ran LOOT, didn't seem to do much also alik'r and imperial patrols are hostile to everyone as well Your problem is probably caused because some mod has changed the factions. First, make a test in a NEW GAME. If problem persist, disable mod's until the problem disappear. If your problem not happend in a NEW GAME is stored in the savegame. Think on start a NEW GAME and delete all yours savegames. The factions are to complex, the game make a lot of things with it and is hard repair it with console comands.
ehhhhhhhhhhh Posted December 17, 2018 Author Posted December 17, 2018 i already started a new save, i’ll try disabling mods thanks
ehhhhhhhhhhh Posted December 17, 2018 Author Posted December 17, 2018 disabling stuff hasn't worked, what else can i do?
Nazzzgul666 Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 38 minutes ago, ehhhhhhhhhhh said: disabling stuff hasn't worked, what else can i do? So you're telling us guards attack everyone if you disable every single mod and start a new game then it still happens?
ehhhhhhhhhhh Posted December 17, 2018 Author Posted December 17, 2018 only the guards inside solitude. the ones outside and from other holds are fine
GenioMaestro Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, ehhhhhhhhhhh said: only the guards inside solitude. the ones outside and from other holds are fine Have you disabled ALL yours mod's??? That can NOT happen in a vanilla game. I remember a mod that starts a fight with the guards if you collide with them but I do not remember the name now. I thought the same as you, something is wrong in the game, but my problem was caused by a mod because I ALWAYS go running and accidentally i collide with the guards.
ehhhhhhhhhhh Posted December 17, 2018 Author Posted December 17, 2018 yeah i disabled all my mods. i did have cwo at one point, but i uninstalled it awhile ago. apparently it had a similar problem where guards become hostile
ehhhhhhhhhhh Posted December 17, 2018 Author Posted December 17, 2018 k, i think i got it there was an older version of alternate start that i didn't uninstall, after i got rid of that the guards work fine. i started a new save, so ill see if they become hostile again later in my playthrough. thanks for the help
GenioMaestro Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, ehhhhhhhhhhh said: k, i think i got it there was an older version of alternate start that i didn't uninstall, after i got rid of that the guards work fine. i started a new save, so ill see if they become hostile again later in my playthrough. thanks for the help Alternate Start - Live Another Life has been updated in july 2017 and the updates are for good motives. Same with USLEEP updated in abril of THIS year 2018. If you have the older versions is recomended get the NEW versions.
ehhhhhhhhhhh Posted December 17, 2018 Author Posted December 17, 2018 nvm it happened again after i went back to solitude heres the papyrus log if that helps w anything Papyrus.0.log
Psalam Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 Spoiler 11 minutes ago, ehhhhhhhhhhh said: nvm it happened again after i went back to solitude heres the papyrus log if that helps w anything Papyrus.0.log If you haven't yet, let me suggest that you try disabling Classic Classes and Birthsigns. It's an old and unsupported mod and may very well be what is causing other mods to not recognize factions properly.
ehhhhhhhhhhh Posted December 17, 2018 Author Posted December 17, 2018 just tried that, they still want me dead
GenioMaestro Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 2 hours ago, ehhhhhhhhhhh said: nvm it happened again after i went back to solitude heres the papyrus log if that helps w anything Papyrus.0.log This log NOT come from a game whitout mod's and have near 50Mb of size. This log with 853k lines is totally unusefull because 836k lines come from ONE and only ONE dump stack. Your machine need 10 seconds for generate the dump and your game must be frozen for 10 seconds. You MUST notice it. Frozen the game for 10 seconds is VERY NOTICEABLE. Is the first time is see a dump of near 50mb... what mod's have you? Have you any idea about what is: _CCNewGameQuest (C20012C5)]._CCMenuScript.StartMod() - "_CCMenuScript.psc" Line 200 The error appear 92k times. Following your mod list is Holds.esp=1 but you must verify it.
ehhhhhhhhhhh Posted December 18, 2018 Author Posted December 18, 2018 4 hours ago, GenioMaestro said: _CCNewGameQuest (C20012C5)]._CCMenuScript.StartMod() - "_CCMenuScript.psc" Line 200 pretty sure that was from classic classes. already uninstalled that and started a new game after, still had the same problem. i just tried again and noticed that my game froze for a bit, probably generating the dump like you said. i can link the new logs if it helps
ehhhhhhhhhhh Posted December 18, 2018 Author Posted December 18, 2018 pretty sure i fixed it for real this time. the issue seems to have been either anna npcs or an outdated mod. thanks for all the help!
GenioMaestro Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 6 hours ago, ehhhhhhhhhhh said: pretty sure i fixed it for real this time. the issue seems to have been either anna npcs or an outdated mod. thanks for all the help! God to know. As I said, those things do not happen in vanilla and should be caused by a mod. Locating it is not easy and it requires disabling many mods and doing many tests, but it is the only really effective way.
ehhhhhhhhhhh Posted December 22, 2018 Author Posted December 22, 2018 hey yall, the guards are fine, but ive still been having some trouble with patrols. imperial, alik'r and vigilants will all attack me on sight even on a completely new save. same as the guards, they also go for any other npc in the area, not just me. heres my load order and papyrus logs [spoiler] Skyrim.esm=1 Update.esm=1 Dawnguard.esm=1 HearthFires.esm=1 Dragonborn.esm=1 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1 ApachiiHair.esm=1 RaceCompatibility.esm=1 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1 ApachiiHairMales.esm=1 ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1 BSAssets.esm=1 BSHeartland.esm=1 hdtHighHeel.esm=1 BS_DLC_patch.esp=1 Campfire.esm=1 SexLab.esm=1 Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1 SexLabAroused.esm=1 Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1 CompanionArissa.esm=1 ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1 DwarfsRace.esm=1 WM Flora Fixes.esp=1 BodyTypes.esm=1 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1 Rough Leather Armor.esp=1 El_WayfarersCoat.esp=1 12FemaleBrows.esp=1 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp=1 Differently Ebony.esp=1 FreckleMania2.esp=1 FISS.esp=1 SkyUI.esp=1 Paper World Map - Bruma.esp=1 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp=1 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp=1 BSHeartland - Meshes.esp=1 BSHeartland - Textures.esp=1 Dr_BandolierDG.esp=1 AMatterOfTime.esp=1 AncientTonguesSword.esp=1 DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp=1 azarhair.esp=1 glimmer.esp=0 DrSKnapsacks.esp=1 1nivWICCloaks.esp=1 SGEyebrows.esp=1 high res hawk replacement - normal.esp=1 smarter combat ai.esp=0 UUNP Vanilla Outfits.esp=1 clothingjewelryfix.esp=1 stronger dragons.esp=0 better_water.esp=1 better embers.esp=1 RaceMenu.esp=1 RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1 AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp=1 AK_RM_PubicStyles_All_In_One.esp=1 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1 TanningSmeltingExp.esp=0 Devious Devices For Him.esp=1 SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp=1 SlaveTats.esp=1 SLAnimLoader.esp=1 Blush When Aroused.esp=1 SLPGN.esp=1 UIExtensions.esp=1 SexLabDefeat.esp=1 SLSO.esp=1 SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp=1 Holds.esp=1 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp=1 Tamriel Reloaded.esp=1 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp=1 CookingExpanded - Dragonborn.esp=1 Potions - Requiem17.esp=0 lighterpotions.esp=0 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1 FNIS.esp=1 3DNPC.esp=1 FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp=1 BijinAIO-2016_3.1.1.esp=1 Bijin Warmaidens.esp=1 Bijin Wives.esp=1 Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1 Coins of Tamriel V2.esp=1 Improved Interior Lighting.esp=1 loners_sword.esp=1 EstrusChaurus.esp=1 Cross Racial Features.esp=1 KZstyle-ELF.esp=1 Holidays.esp=1 Coins of Tamriel V2 Dragonborn.esp=1 SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp=1 ArcheryDummyXP.esp=1 Improved HDR and DoF.esp=1 SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1 Tentapalooza.esp=1 CandyShops.esp=1 Coins of Tamriel V2 Dawnguard.esp=1 Eli's Coffee Mod.esp=1 Improved Weather.esp=1 SexLab-Parasites.esp=1 tavevillages.esp=1 Hotsprings of Skyrim.esp=1 UGCustum.esp=1 CACO_3DNPC.esp=1 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1 Catsofskyrim.esp=1 BikiniMaidenFull.esp=1 Dogsofskyrim.esp=1 Lucien.esp=1 Missives.esp=1 Yggdrasil Music.esp=1 Equippable Tomes.esp=1 PaladinArtifactsAndArmor.esp=1 amk Border Lace Lingerie.esp=1 HighElfSkinTones.esp=1 DarkElfFemaleMaleSkinsTones.esp=1 WoodElfSkins.esp=1 Coins of Tamriel V2 Hearthfire.esp=1 zxmap.esp=1 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1 LostLongSwords.esp=1 Bijin NPCs.esp=1 Males of Skyrim.esp=1 ShShortswords.esp=1 ThalmorStandalone.esp=1 Faction Crossbows.esp=1 ExpandedNPCDialogue.esp=1 iNeed.esp=1 NedhegothTheButcher.esp=1 tastytaffy.esp=1 CookingExpanded.esp=1 CookingExpanded - Hearthfire.esp=0 chocoyum.esp=1 Hott Interesting NPCs.esp=1 AddItemMenu2.esp=1 TKDodge.esp=1 Cre_DT_Nit.esp=1 Khajiit Overhaul.esp=1 zzArmormashups.esp=1 MainMenu.esp=1 SL_shrines.esp=1 NightshadeSuit.esp=1 3PCOFull.esp=1 dD Enchanted Chests.esp=1 XPMSE.esp=1 TavernGames.esp=1 _ImoMegane.esp=1 Osare Underwear.esp=1 Worlds Dawn.esp=1 HDT Maid Outfit.esp=1 HDT Maid Outfit Slot Change.esp=0 TwoRings.esp=1 MeltInTheMouth.esp=1 Dr_Bandolier.esp=1 Nordic Warmaiden Body Hair.esp=1 UNPCMmix.esp=1 BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp=1 BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp=0 CISCore.esp=1 SkyHUD.esp=1 SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp=1 Peacekeeper Armour.esp=1 WM_WidgetMod.esp=1 Dwemer Beards.esp=1 DwarfsRaceFollowers.esp=1 zzEstrus.esp=1 AnimatedParasites.esp=0 FadeTattoos.esp=1 MilkModNEW.esp=1 MilkModNEW CF.esp=1 MilkModNEW HF.esp=1 RapeTattoos.esp=1 Simplechainarmor.esp=1 teayum.esp=1 FranklyHDImperialArmorsAndWeapons.esp=1 RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp=0 NewArmoury.esp=1 CACO_Varietea_Patch.esp=1 riften specials.esp=0 IceBladeOfTheMonarch.esp=1 GiftsOfAkatosh.esp=1 ExpensiveSkyrim.esp=1 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1 Unique Grasses.esp=1 Apropos2.esp=1 iNeed_CACO - Patch.esp=0 AdventurersAndTravelers.esp=1 CACO-Ordinatored.esp=1 CACO_Bathing in Skyrim.esp=0 Lucien-Holds-Patch.esp=1 Guards armor replacement.esp=0 GirlHeavyArmor.esp=1 GirlHeavyArmorCIS.esp=1 UniqueBows.esp=1 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1 dvmb.esp=1 HoldsAlternativeStartCompatibilityPatch.esp=1 HoldsArissaCompatibilityPatch.esp=1 Holds - BijinAIO Patch.esp=1 Holds - Bijin NPCs Patch.esp=1 HoldsHolidaysCompatibilityPatch.esp=1 HoldsInterestingNPCsCompatibilityPatch.esp=1 Holds - Missives Patch.esp=1 HoldsUSLEEPCompatibilityPatch.esp=1 Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Texture 1.esp=1 Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Dragonborn.esp=1 warburg's 3d paper world map - dawnguard.esp=1 Potions.esp=1 Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1 [/spoiler] Papyrus.0.log
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