Clipping on followers

[Bluticus]

I have two followers whose body sizes are different from my characters, so the bondage gear doesn't fit them properly. Is there any way I can fix this so they can all fit their respective sizes?

 

My character is the Altmer with the green hair.

[Psalam]

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3 hours ago, Bluticus said:

I have two followers whose body sizes are different from my characters, so the bondage gear doesn't fit them properly. Is there any way I can fix this so they can all fit their respective sizes?

 

My character is the Altmer with the green hair.

 

 

Are you using Bodyslide? What type(s) of bodies are those?

[donttouchmethere]

the DD items are created via bodyslide to fit your PC's body after installation

all other body types will clip (for example your PC is UUNP, your followers are UNP/UNPB/CBBE => those gonna clip)

 

one way around this would be to give your followers the same body files your PC uses

(dont ask ME how, but I am sure there are a lot ppl her that can explain how to exchange the body_nif files(?) or use google fu)

 

or choose followers that use the same body type your PC uses (might still clip with presets on those followers)

 

best to choose followers that dont come with a standalone body and will use the PCs body

 

[Bluticus]

7 hours ago, Psalam said:

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Are you using Bodyslide? What type(s) of bodies are those?

My character is using CBBE HDT body, Lady Arkay (the one on the right is using a UNP body and Ella (the one in the middle) is using UNPB.

 

For presets, I use the Very Skinny preset, no idea about the other two.

[GenioMaestro]

12 hours ago, Bluticus said:

I have two followers whose body sizes are different from my characters, so the bondage gear doesn't fit them properly. Is there any way I can fix this so they can all fit their respective sizes?

Your problem can be caused because you not activate the mark for "Build Morphs" in BodySlide.

Open your BodySlide activate the mark for "Build Morph" in the lower left corner and press "Batch Build"

Select all yours groups in the next screen and press "Build"

Chose your output in the next screen and press "Ok"

Wait a bit while all the items are processed and test it in your game.

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The option for "Build Morphs" in BodySlide generate TRI files for each item. The game use the TRI files for adapt each item to the body of each NPC and reduce the clipping to the minimal. Of course is not perfect and some times have glichs and clips but normally look good.

 

As you can see i have 3 diferent followers of very diferent apareance and all the harness look good.

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[RW311]

Build morphs will only work if npc data is changed in game so there is nioverride data in the co save, but even then it can only morph based on the preset it was built from and if npc preset shape is different from the outfit shapes preset the morph would not match and would only work correctly where outfit replaces body, still wouldn't match but it would not clip.

 

In this case you have very different preset shape and worse different body type so no simple way to fix this, the outfit needs to be completely replaced to match the new body preset using armor race edits for both npc and all armors used which would be a lot of work for just one or two npcs, or the npc needs to have same body or at least similar body shape to what the outfit was built for.

[GenioMaestro]

I did more tests with more followers and I must say YES, IT IS TRUE to the comment of RW311.

If the body of the followers or npc is too different from the player's body, the DD element is clipped by the body. As you can see in my screenshot I have the same problem.

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The only way for see the harness is equip any armor and the harness appear perfect but that is because the body of the npc is replaced with the body of the armor, as RW311 say.

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You can create personaliced DD items for the follower, a lot of work as RW311 say, and equip it manually but that is not a real solution talking about DD because if the item is equiped in the follower by a mod like Cursed Loot the mod equip the default DD item and you must manually change it for the personaliced version and maybe you not have the key for remove the standart item.

[Bluticus]

I see, are there any programs to create personalized DD items?

 

6 hours ago, GenioMaestro said:

I did more tests with more followers and I must say YES, IT IS TRUE to the comment of RW311.

If the body of the followers or npc is too different from the player's body, the DD element is clipped by the body. As you can see in my screenshot I have the same problem.

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The only way for see the harness is equip any armor and the harness appear perfect but that is because the body of the npc is replaced with the body of the armor, as RW311 say.

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You can create personaliced DD items for the follower, a lot of work as RW311 say, and equip it manually but that is not a real solution talking about DD because if the item is equiped in the follower by a mod like Cursed Loot the mod equip the default DD item and you must manually change it for the personaliced version and maybe you not have the key for remove the standart item.

What do you mean by replacing the body of the NPC with the body of the armor?

[GenioMaestro]

2 hours ago, Bluticus said:

I see, are there any programs to create personalized DD items?

Not.. as i know only BodySlide and Outfit Studio can make it manually or semimanually.

I'm not expert in the area, but i think you must made the first item manually in Outfit Studio, create a new sliderset and use it for process all DD items in BodySlide.

But that only change the items for match the new body and can appear good in the follower body but appear bad in your player body. Is the same problem but in inverse way.

For have diferent items for your follower you can open the ESM of DD in Creation Kit and manually change each nif for each DD item in each color, name it for your follower and save it as ESP for made a new mod with the new items. A lot of work as RW311 say. 

 

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What do you mean by replacing the body of the NPC with the body of the armor?

Near all the armors have a body shape inside it. For that, the moders must create diferent armor packs for CBBE and UNP, because the CBBE body is too diferent to the UNP body and the body is inserted inside the armor. You can see in the screenshot my nif for my bladesarmor and as you can see have a body inside the armor.

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When you equip an armor the body shape of the character is replaced with the body shape of the armor and for that you must process all yours armors with BodySlide. If you not made it the body of the armor can be too diferent to the character body and you can have big tits in nude body but small tits when equip the armor.