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Hey, so I've installed lots of mods using a buch of merges. Yesterday I tried it out to find out- to my surprise - that it actually worked pretty well, at least for an hour or something like that. I was just running around a bit so I didn't actually pay too much attention to the game. When I had to go to bed and quit, I realized that the HUD was actually completely gone and it probably was from the beginning, I just didn't realize it.

 

Of course, when playing serious the UI is absolutely needed, especially for fights. I can see the quick loot menus, health bar, stamina bar, compass and the "press E to take" text are completely missing. I also can't see any mod alerts in the top left corner of the screen, when SexLab has finished installing for example. The mods seem to work fine, obviously couldnt test them all out yet. I can also use all MCMs the inventory. Everything works, just not the main HUD. I use SkyUI, Immersive HUD and UIExtensions. I have tried reinstalling these mods but I can't figure out what the problem is, wether it's a problem with the ENB or my Skyrim Settings. I have tried searching on google, but no one there had the same kind of UI problem I had. I tried using the tm console command, but then my game crashes. It's pretty weird. The sound continues as normal, I can close the game with the x with no delay, I just can't tab back in.

 

My Load Order (some of these are disabled because of CCOR and Merges)

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
SCO Winter Landscape Decoloration.esp
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
SCO Winter Landscape Decoloration - Solstheim.esp
Unofficial Skyrim City Patch Modified.esm
Skyrim Supplemental Patch.esp
RaceCompatibility.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
Femboy Reborn -Base-.esm
SexLab.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Unique Flowers & Plants.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
MiasLair.esp
Falskaar.esm
Unofficial Falskaar Patch.esp
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
Gray Fox Cowl.esm
Heretical Resources.esm
moonpath.esm
ITortureFramework.esm
JSwords.esm
NPCs of Dibella - Resources.esm
ZazExtensionPack.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
paradise_halls.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
UIExtensions.esp
SOS - Femboy.esp
RichMerchants_Less.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
Distinct Skyrim Landscapes.esp
Enhanced Interiors Radioactive.esp
Enhanced Landscapes.esp
Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp
Dark_Forests.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
MERGE_Environment.esp
The Forts of Skyrim-Rebuilt.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
FlowerFields.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods-32Bit SKYRIM.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
FFO.esp
Enhanced Interiors Taverns with ELFX.esp
WetandCold.esp
AOS.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
3DNPC.esp
GenesisOfSolstheim.esp
ETaC - Dawnstar.esp
ETaC - Riverwood.esp
ETaC - Darkwater Crossing.esp
Enhanced Interiors Longhouses.esp
ELFX_Patches.esp
WhiterunHoldForest.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
Tamriel Reloaded Flora.esp
Enhanced Interiors Radioactive ELFX Patch.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp
UG2Redux.esp
DeviantKaleds_Nord_Ship_Replacers.esp
Obsidian Mountain Fogs For LE.esp
Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp
Honeyside.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
Treeswinedave.esp
Dilon Vul.esp
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
Undeath.esp
Realistic Boat Bobbing.esp
Weathered Road Signs.esp
AnnaNPCs.esp
NPCs of Dibella - Females.esp
NPC_Overhaul_V_2_.esp
OpulentThievesGuild.esp
Birdsofskyrim.esp
SLO_StoneWalls.esp
AnnaNPCs-WhiteWaterInn-3.0.4.esp
CWIELnFXPatch.esp
Captured Dreams.esp
HearthfireMultiKid.esp
whiterun spruce by revan1199.esp
Snowy AF Windhelm.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
hearthfireextended.esp
Lurking in the shadows.esp
marriagemod - alpha v3.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
MERGEOtherPatches.esp
MERGE_Items.esp
Aurlyn.esp
marriagemod - hf.esp
RBB Long Boats.esp
BirdsHFclean.esp
hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp
AnnaNPCs-AndunielsMeadery.esp
The Ruins.esp
MERGE_Effects_Magic.esp
Enhanced Interiors Radioactive SPO Patch.esp
Enhanced Interiors Longhouses ELFX patch.esp
goldpilesyum.esp
dr_bandolier.esp
Cloaks.esp
Windfull Skyrim.esp
Populated Forts Towers Places Legendary.esp
AliciaPainSlut.esp
PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
Pre PaMa WAFR CCOR Patch.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
fallentreebridges.esp
RBB Large Boats.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
moonpath_questdata.esp
Atlas Legendary.esp
Better Vampires.esp
PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
Vivid Weathers.esp
Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
Foggy Morthal and Swamp.esp
RBB Row Boats.esp
TKAA.esp
3DNPC TKAA Patch.esp
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp
AFT_iNPCFix.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
Enhanced Landscapes - Patch.esp
Falskaar Wildlife.esp
flaho_shi_eagles_nest_ENG.esp
WindPath.esp
Morgensterns Mushroom circles.esp
RBB Long Boats - Falskaar.esp
shezrieshfkitchen.esp
shezrieshfkitchenhel.esp
Dreamborne Islands.esp
FarmhouseChimneys.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
fogrimlegendaryedition.esp
Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics.esp
TrueStorms.esp
MERGE_Sound_Fixes.esp
dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
MERGE_NPCs.esp
The Ordinary Women.esp
Noobshire.esp
Adrianne.esp
Animated Dragon Wings.esp
Enhanced Interiors Radioactive 3DNPC Patch.esp
Enhanced Interiors Radioactive ELFX Enhancer Patch.esp
PCE - 3DNPC Patch.esp
PCE - No Custom Music patch.esp
paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp
Animated Enchantments.esp
Animated Fairy Wings.esp
AnnaNPCs-AlternativeFaces.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
ETaC - Dawnstar ELFX Patch.esp
ETaC - Riverwood ELFX Patch.esp
Morning Fogs.esp
DeviantKaleds_Nord_Ship_Replacers_DawnguardPatch_1.0.esp
EmbersHD.esp
Men of Winter.esp
Merge_HearthfireStuff.esp
stonhenge + hilltops.esp
Immersive Music Temples.esp
Immersive Music.esp
RBB - Realistic Water Two.esp
MERGE_Character_Assets.esp
FS_Eidolon.esp
HeartfireBalconies.esp
DeviantKaleds_Nord_Ship_Replacers_1.2USLEEP.esp
FM - Heljarchen Library.esp
FM - Lakeview Library.esp
pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp
ETaC - Darkwater Crossing ELFX Patch.esp
Skyland Imperial Forts and Dungeons.esp
My Home Is Your Home.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
Aradia Lace Dress.esp
Astaroth Horns - All in one.esp
Astrid.esp
Males of Skyrim.esp
IB - All-in-One.esp
AurlynSerenityOverhaul.esp
BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp
BeandBarbSpecials.esp
Beards.esp
Better Dynamic Ash.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
TCoW Improvement.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
BlackWisteria.esp
Blade and Soul Negligee.esp
BnS Scorpion Set.esp
Book of UUNP - Textures.esp
Bound Armory.esp
Brows.esp
Carlotta.esp
MERGE_Equipment.esp
Celes Nightingale Armor.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
Compatibility_ICoW_CoWNPCImprov.esp
P1FlyingRing.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
CustomPaints.esp
SkyUI.esp
DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp
DaedraHuntress.esp
DaedricCrownCraftable.esp
DiethardtWarpaint.esp
Differently Ebony.esp
DirtCliffVariation.esp
DragonCrownCraftable.esp
DragonPlateCrownCraftable.esp
ELFX - Moonpath.esp
ELFX - NoHoneyside.esp
EbonyCrownCraftable.esp
Elegant Beauty Stunning Eyes Remastered.esp
Elisif Makeover.esp
ElvenCrownCraftable.esp
ElvenSorcArmor.esp
Eyes of Aber.esp
FNIS.esp
FNIS_PCEA2.esp
FNISspells.esp
FS_NamelessLight.esp
FS_Skycutter.esp
FS_SwordOfTheSeeker.esp
FS_Ygrayne.esp
Fairytale.esp
FarmhouseChimneysFalskaar.esp
FireBurns.esp
FloppySOS.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone_PerMa Patch.esp
MERGE_Armor.esp
GDZZJJDH.esp
Gerdur.esp
Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp
GlassCrownCraftable.esp
Gray Fox Cowl - Camel patch.esp
HagravenSkinShaders.esp
Headtracking.esp
Hearthfire Attics - All-In-One.esp
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
HeavyMetal.esp
Hentai_mixed_Armor.esp
Hott Interesting NPCs.esp
Hulda.esp
ISCompendium AOS Patch.esp
ISCompendium CCO Patch.esp
Idgrod the younger.esp
Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp
Ingun.esp
Irileth.esp
Ivy Valentine Armor.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
KURESE Gloria conversion.esp
Karliah.esp
LadyHorus_TERA.esp
Lepidoptera Of Skyrim DLC1.esp
Lieyes_v1.0.esp
LindsHumanEyes.esp
LindsMerEyes.esp
Lisette.esp
LostGrimoire.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
Mage Outfit Texture Overhaul.esp
Maven.esp
Men of Winter - Compatibility Patch.esp
MonsterEyes.esp
NB-Scars.esp
Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics TS.esp
Neo's Lei Fang & Christie.esp
ORM-Arvak.esp
OrcFemaleWalk.esp
Osare Maid Outfit.esp
PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp
PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp
PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
PlayRandomIdle.esp
Pre PaMa Bound Armory Patch.esp
PrettyKhajiit.esp
RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp
RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Real Roads.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
RiftenMural.esp
Rikke.esp
SGEyebrows.esp
SLALAnimObj.esp
SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp
SOS - ERF Equipable Horse Penis.esp
SOS - ERF Horse Penis Addon.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp
SUNMagicArmor.esp
Saeri_Khajiit_Hair.esp
Sapphire.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
Serana.esp
SexLab Cumshot.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
Skull Armor.esp
Skyrim 2017 TPTC - Parallax Maps.esp
Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
Skysan_ENBHorseTrough.esp
SlaveTats.esp
Smoking Torches and Candles.esp
TKDodge.esp
TW3Eyes.esp
TavernClothes-MTM.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
Tonilia.esp
UG2Redux_TU.esp
UniqueBarbas.esp
UniqueWeaponsRedone.esp
Valerica.esp
Vex.esp
Vivid Landscapes.esp
VivisCockcage.esp
VivisHorsecages.esp
Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
WeaponsOf3E.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
WondersofWeather.esp
XPMSE.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
ISC WAFR Patch.esp
chocoyum.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp
dcc-dm2.esp
eggkilleryum.esp
fox_ThroneXX.esp
homeymealyum.esp
iHUD.esp
lilithssickle.esp
lilithssickle_PerMa_Patch.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-DDx-patch.esp
pahe-tdf-patch.esp
sandboxcylinderheight.esp
sirwho_Wizard_Hat.esp
vImmersiveBeds - HFDG.esp
vImmersiveBeds.esp
wjun28.esp
Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
Devious Devices For Him.esp
VivisCockCage Addon for DD.esp
pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-patch.esp
VioLens.esp
MatureSkinComplexions.esp
TAotB - New Facial Hairs.esp
AOS2_DSI Patch.esp
AOS2_WAF Patch.esp
FS_ExorcizamusTe.esp
MERGE_FS_Weapons.esp
AOS2_EBT Patch.esp
ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp
AOS2_TrueStorms Patch.esp
AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp
MERGE_Crowns.esp
SCO Winter Edition.esp
SCO Winter Edition - Solstheim.esp
SCO Winter Edition - Hearthfire Patch.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
FarmhouseChimneysLAL.esp
PCE - Live Another Life Patch.esp
ELFX - Hardcore.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Vivid Snow.esp
PatchusMaximus.esp
DynDOLOD.esp



 

 

Posted

In no particular order:

How many esps is that?

You need to run LOOT.

I would be very surprised if that lot ever runs smoothly.

 

As for your HUD probelm, there is a on/off, hide/display toggle with IHUD (or is it SkyUI?) and also an option to link all widgets. You haven't got it toggled off?

 

Posted
Just now, Grey Cloud said:

In no particular order:

How many esps is that?

You need to run LOOT.

I would be very surprised if that lot ever runs smoothly.

 

As for your HUD probelm, there is a on/off, hide/display toggle with IHUD (or is it SkyUI?) and also an option to link all widgets. You haven't got it toggled off?

 

1. Can't say for sure. Around 300 with Merges.

2. I'm running LOOT. Have done multiple times before.

3. It does. At least the hour or so I have played it. But I was surprised too. Sixty FPS, no crashes.  The only gamebreaking error I have encountered so far is the HUD thing.

3. I've tried the IHUD thing. Doesn't do anything for me, but in my normal playthroughs I use it often to take screenshots.

 

Posted

Let me begin by stating the obvious, that is a whole lot of mods. Even if the sheer number is not a part of your problem, the sheer number of mods is going to make sorting out what is your problem just that much more difficult.

 

Next, let me ask which version of ZAP that you are using. I am including here a note that T.ara wrote to Musje and now appears on the modpage of her Home Sweet Home mod:

 

This mod will work with all optional mods listed above, but some of those mods will not work together!

-TUFP + ZEP is OK 

-ZAP 7 + TUFP + ZEP is OK (most common combination)

-ZAP 8(+) is OK for gamers who don´t play mods that need ZEP (zaz extension pack)

-ZAP8(+) + TUFP is NOT WORKING, combining these is not necessary and causes serious issues (ZAP8+ has everythong from TUFP and them some)

-ZAP8(+) + ZEP is NOT WORKING

-ZAP 8 (+) + ZEP + TUFP is NOT WORKING

 

Finally, since Grey Cloud beat me to posting, I would also like to see your load order from LOOT. It has much information that your posted load order lacks (no offense intended).

Posted

That load order is needs LOOT. That SCO Winter esp should not be before Dawnguard and the other DLCs. There are long runs of that load that are in alphabetical order.

All the way from AurlynSerenityOverhaul.esp to XPMSE.esp

35 minutes ago, ronmose said:

1. Can't say for sure.

Why not? Your mod manager or LOOT will tell you.

 

Even running a Cray super computer you would not get 60 fps from that load order.

30 minutes ago, ronmose said:

3. I've tried the IHUD thing. Doesn't do anything for me, but in my normal playthroughs I use it often to take screenshots.

What do you mean 'it doesn't do anything'? And by 'to take screenshots' do you mean to clear the screen?

Posted
41 minutes ago, Psalam said:

Let me begin by stating the obvious, that is a whole lot of mods. Even if the sheer number is not a part of your problem, the sheer number of mods is going to make sorting out what is your problem just that much more difficult.

 

Next, let me ask which version of ZAP that you are using. I am including here a note that T.ara wrote to Musje and now appears on the modpage of her Home Sweet Home mod:

 

This mod will work with all optional mods listed above, but some of those mods will not work together!

-TUFP + ZEP is OK 

-ZAP 7 + TUFP + ZEP is OK (most common combination)

-ZAP 8(+) is OK for gamers who don´t play mods that need ZEP (zaz extension pack)

-ZAP8(+) + TUFP is NOT WORKING, combining these is not necessary and causes serious issues (ZAP8+ has everythong from TUFP and them some)

-ZAP8(+) + ZEP is NOT WORKING

-ZAP 8 (+) + ZEP + TUFP is NOT WORKING

 

Finally, since Grey Cloud beat me to posting, I would also like to see your load order from LOOT. It has much information that your posted load order lacks (not offense intended).

used Zap8, deleted ZEP, thanks, i didn't see that.

 



  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     SCO Winter Landscape Decoloration.esp
  3  3     Dawnguard.esm
  4  4     HearthFires.esm
  5  5     Dragonborn.esm
  6  6     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  7  7     SCO Winter Landscape Decoloration - Solstheim.esp
  8  8     Unofficial Skyrim City Patch Modified.esm
  9  9     Skyrim Supplemental Patch.esp
 10  a     RaceCompatibility.esm
 11  b     ApachiiHair.esm
 12  c     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
 13  d     ApachiiHairMales.esm
 14  e     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 15  f     Femboy Reborn -Base-.esm
 16 10     SexLab.esm
 17 11     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 18 12     SexLabAroused.esm
 19 13     Unique Flowers & Plants.esm
 20 14     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 21 15     MiasLair.esp
 22 16     Falskaar.esm
 23 17     Unofficial Falskaar Patch.esp
 24 18     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 25 19     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 26 1a     ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
 27 1b     Gray Fox Cowl.esm
 28 1c     Heretical Resources.esm
 29 1d     moonpath.esm
 30 1e     ITortureFramework.esm
           JSwords.esm
 31 1f     NPCs of Dibella - Resources.esm
 32 20     hdtHighHeel.esm
 33 21     paradise_halls.esm
           HighResTexturePack01.esp
           HighResTexturePack02.esp
           HighResTexturePack03.esp
 34 22     Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
 35 23     UIExtensions.esp
 36 24     SOS - Femboy.esp
 37 25     RichMerchants_Less.esp
 38 26     EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
 39 27     Distinct Skyrim Landscapes.esp
 40 28     Enhanced Interiors Radioactive.esp
 41 29     Enhanced Landscapes.esp
 42 2a     Dark_Forests.esp
 43 2b     ELFX - Exteriors.esp
 44 2c     The Forts of Skyrim-Rebuilt.esp
 45 2d     CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
 46 2e     FlowerFields.esp
 47 2f     Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods-32Bit SKYRIM.esp
 48 30     Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
 49 31     FFO.esp
 50 32     Enhanced Interiors Taverns with ELFX.esp
 51 33     WetandCold.esp
 52 34     AOS.esp
 53 35     Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
 54 36     3DNPC.esp
 55 37     GenesisOfSolstheim.esp
 56 38     WhiterunHoldForest.esp
 57 39     Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
 58 3a     Tamriel Reloaded Flora.esp
 59 3b     Book Covers Skyrim.esp
 60 3c     paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp
 61 3d     UG2Redux.esp
 62 3e     DeviantKaleds_Nord_Ship_Replacers.esp
           Obsidian Mountain Fogs For LE.esp
 63 3f     ETaC - Dawnstar.esp
 64 40     Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp
           Honeyside.esp
 65 41     ETaC - Riverwood.esp
 66 42     Helgen Reborn.esp
           Treeswinedave.esp
 67 43     Dilon Vul.esp
 68 44     Undeath.esp
 69 45     Realistic Boat Bobbing.esp
           Weathered Road Signs.esp
 70 46     AnnaNPCs.esp
 71 47     NPCs of Dibella - Females.esp
 72 48     NPC_Overhaul_V_2_.esp
 73 49     OpulentThievesGuild.esp
 74 4a     Birdsofskyrim.esp
           SLO_StoneWalls.esp
 75 4b     ETaC - Darkwater Crossing.esp
           AnnaNPCs-WhiteWaterInn-3.0.4.esp
 76 4c     CWIELnFXPatch.esp
           Captured Dreams.esp
 77 4d     HearthfireMultiKid.esp
 78 4e     whiterun spruce by revan1199.esp
 79 4f     Snowy AF Windhelm.esp
 80 50     Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
 81 51     hearthfireextended.esp
 82 52     Lurking in the shadows.esp
 83 53     marriagemod - alpha v3.esp
 84 54     AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
 85 55     Aurlyn.esp
 86 56     marriagemod - hf.esp
           RBB Long Boats.esp
           BirdsHFclean.esp
 87 57     hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp
 88 58     AnnaNPCs-AndunielsMeadery.esp
 89 59     The Ruins.esp
           Enhanced Interiors Radioactive SPO Patch.esp
           goldpilesyum.esp
           dr_bandolier.esp
           Cloaks.esp
 90 5a     Windfull Skyrim.esp
 91 5b     Populated Forts Towers Places Legendary.esp
 92 5c     AliciaPainSlut.esp
 93 5d     PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
 94 5e     Pre PaMa WAFR CCOR Patch.esp
 95 5f     Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
 96 60     Immersive Weapons.esp
 97 61     WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
 98 62     PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
 99 63     PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
100 64     PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
           fallentreebridges.esp
           RBB Large Boats.esp
101 65     Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
102 66     Enhanced Interiors Longhouses.esp
103 67     moonpath_questdata.esp
           Atlas Legendary.esp
104 68     Better Vampires.esp
105 69     PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp
           JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
           Vivid Weathers.esp
106 6a     Immersive Patrols II.esp
107 6b     Foggy Morthal and Swamp.esp
           RBB Row Boats.esp
108 6c     TKAA.esp
109 6d     3DNPC TKAA Patch.esp
110 6e     83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp
111 6f     AFT_iNPCFix.esp
112 70     DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
113 71     Enhanced Landscapes - Patch.esp
114 72     Falskaar Wildlife.esp
115 73     flaho_shi_eagles_nest_ENG.esp
116 74     WindPath.esp
           Morgensterns Mushroom circles.esp
           RBB Long Boats - Falskaar.esp
117 75     shezrieshfkitchen.esp
118 76     shezrieshfkitchenhel.esp
119 77     Dreamborne Islands.esp
120 78     FarmhouseChimneys.esp
121 79     RealisticWaterTwo.esp
122 7a     dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
123 7b     fogrimlegendaryedition.esp
124 7c     Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics.esp
125 7d     TrueStorms.esp
126 7e     dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
           The Ordinary Women.esp
           Noobshire.esp
           Adrianne.esp
           Animated Dragon Wings.esp
           Enhanced Interiors Radioactive 3DNPC Patch.esp
           Enhanced Interiors Radioactive ELFX Enhancer Patch.esp
           paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp
127 7f     Animated Enchantments.esp
           Animated Fairy Wings.esp
128 80     AnnaNPCs-AlternativeFaces.esp
129 81     RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
130 82     Morning Fogs.esp
           DeviantKaleds_Nord_Ship_Replacers_DawnguardPatch_1.0.esp
131 83     EmbersHD.esp
132 84     Men of Winter.esp
133 85     stonhenge + hilltops.esp
           Immersive Music Temples.esp
           Immersive Music.esp
134 86     RBB - Realistic Water Two.esp
           FS_Eidolon.esp
135 87     HeartfireBalconies.esp
           DeviantKaleds_Nord_Ship_Replacers_1.2USLEEP.esp
           FM - Heljarchen Library.esp
           FM - Lakeview Library.esp
136 88     pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp
           Skyland Imperial Forts and Dungeons.esp
137 89     My Home Is Your Home.esp
138 8a     Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
           Aradia Lace Dress.esp
           Astaroth Horns - All in one.esp
           Astrid.esp
139 8b     Males of Skyrim.esp
140 8c     IB - All-in-One.esp
141 8d     AurlynSerenityOverhaul.esp
142 8e     BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp
           BeandBarbSpecials.esp
           Beards.esp
           Better Dynamic Ash.esp
           Bijin Warmaidens.esp
143 8f     TCoW Improvement.esp
           Bijin Wives.esp
           BlackWisteria.esp
           Blade and Soul Negligee.esp
           BnS Scorpion Set.esp
144 90     Book of UUNP - Textures.esp
145 91     Bound Armory.esp
           Brows.esp
           Carlotta.esp
           Celes Nightingale Armor.esp
           Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
146 92     Compatibility_ICoW_CoWNPCImprov.esp
147 93     P1FlyingRing.esp
148 94     Convenient Horses.esp
           CustomPaints.esp
149 95     SkyUI.esp
150 96     DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp
           DaedraHuntress.esp
           DaedricCrownCraftable.esp
151 97     DiethardtWarpaint.esp
           Differently Ebony.esp
           DirtCliffVariation.esp
           DragonCrownCraftable.esp
           DragonPlateCrownCraftable.esp
152 98     ELFX - Moonpath.esp
           ELFX - NoHoneyside.esp
           EbonyCrownCraftable.esp
           Elegant Beauty Stunning Eyes Remastered.esp
153 99     Elisif Makeover.esp
           ElvenCrownCraftable.esp
           ElvenSorcArmor.esp
154 9a     Eyes of Aber.esp
155 9b     FNIS.esp
156 9c     FNIS_PCEA2.esp
157 9d     FNISspells.esp
           FS_NamelessLight.esp
           FS_Skycutter.esp
           FS_SwordOfTheSeeker.esp
           FS_Ygrayne.esp
           Fairytale.esp
158 9e     FarmhouseChimneysFalskaar.esp
159 9f     FireBurns.esp
160 a0     FloppySOS.esp
161 a1     ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
162 a2     ForgottenMagic_Redone_PerMa Patch.esp
           GDZZJJDH.esp
           Gerdur.esp
           Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp
           GlassCrownCraftable.esp
163 a3     Gray Fox Cowl - Camel patch.esp
           HagravenSkinShaders.esp
           Headtracking.esp
164 a4     Hearthfire Attics - All-In-One.esp
165 a5     HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
           HeavyMetal.esp
           Hentai_mixed_Armor.esp
166 a6     Hott Interesting NPCs.esp
           Hulda.esp
           ISCompendium AOS Patch.esp
           ISCompendium CCO Patch.esp
           Idgrod the younger.esp
167 a7     Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp
           Ingun.esp
           Irileth.esp
           Ivy Valentine Armor.esp
168 a8     KS Hairdo's.esp
           KURESE Gloria conversion.esp
           Karliah.esp
169 a9     LadyHorus_TERA.esp
170 aa     Lepidoptera Of Skyrim DLC1.esp
           Lieyes_v1.0.esp
           LindsHumanEyes.esp
           LindsMerEyes.esp
           Lisette.esp
171 ab     LostGrimoire.esp
           1nivWICCloaks.esp
           1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
           Mage Outfit Texture Overhaul.esp
           Maven.esp
172 ac     Men of Winter - Compatibility Patch.esp
           MonsterEyes.esp
           NB-Scars.esp
173 ad     Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics TS.esp
           Neo's Lei Fang & Christie.esp
           ORM-Arvak.esp
           OrcFemaleWalk.esp
           Osare Maid Outfit.esp
174 ae     PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp
175 af     PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp
176 b0     PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
177 b1     PlayRandomIdle.esp
178 b2     Pre PaMa Bound Armory Patch.esp
179 b3     PrettyKhajiit.esp
180 b4     RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
181 b5     RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp
           RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp
182 b6     RaceMenu.esp
183 b7     RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
184 b8     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
185 b9     Real Roads.esp
186 ba     RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp
187 bb     RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
           RiftenMural.esp
           Rikke.esp
           SGEyebrows.esp
188 bc     SLALAnimObj.esp
189 bd     SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
190 be     SLAnimLoader.esp
191 bf     SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp
           SOS - ERF Equipable Horse Penis.esp
           SOS - ERF Horse Penis Addon.esp
           SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
           SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
           SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
           SOSRaceMenu.esp
192 c0     SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp
           SUNMagicArmor.esp
193 c1     Saeri_Khajiit_Hair.esp
           Sapphire.esp
194 c2     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
           Serana.esp
195 c3     SexLab Cumshot.esp
196 c4     SexLabDefeat.esp
           Skull Armor.esp
197 c5     Skyrim 2017 TPTC - Parallax Maps.esp
           Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
           Skysan_ENBHorseTrough.esp
198 c6     SlaveTats.esp
199 c7     Smoking Torches and Candles.esp
200 c8     TKDodge.esp
           TW3Eyes.esp
           TavernClothes-MTM.esp
           The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
           TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
           Tonilia.esp
201 c9     UG2Redux_TU.esp
           UniqueBarbas.esp
202 ca     UniqueWeaponsRedone.esp
           Valerica.esp
           Vex.esp
203 cb     Vivid Landscapes.esp
204 cc     VivisCockcage.esp
205 cd     VivisHorsecages.esp
206 ce     Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
207 cf     WeaponsOf3E.esp
208 d0     WetandCold - Ashes.esp
209 d1     WondersofWeather.esp
210 d2     XPMSE.esp
           aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
           ISC WAFR Patch.esp
           chocoyum.esp
211 d3     dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
212 d4     dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp
213 d5     dcc-dm2.esp
           eggkilleryum.esp
           fox_ThroneXX.esp
           homeymealyum.esp
214 d6     iHUD.esp
215 d7     lilithssickle.esp
216 d8     lilithssickle_PerMa_Patch.esp
217 d9     mintylightningmod.esp
218 da     pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-DDx-patch.esp
           pahe-tdf-patch.esp
219 db     sandboxcylinderheight.esp
           sirwho_Wizard_Hat.esp
           vImmersiveBeds - HFDG.esp
           vImmersiveBeds.esp
           wjun28.esp
220 dc     Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp
221 dd     Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
222 de     RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
223 df     Devious Devices For Him.esp
224 e0     VivisCockCage Addon for DD.esp
225 e1     pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-patch.esp
226 e2     VioLens.esp
           MatureSkinComplexions.esp
           TAotB - New Facial Hairs.esp
           FS_ExorcizamusTe.esp
           ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
227 e3     SCO Winter Edition.esp
228 e4     SCO Winter Edition - Solstheim.esp
229 e5     SCO Winter Edition - Hearthfire Patch.esp
230 e6     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
           FarmhouseChimneysLAL.esp
           PCE - Live Another Life Patch.esp
231 e7     ELFX - Hardcore.esp
232 e8     Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp
233 e9     PCE - 3DNPC Patch.esp
234 ea     PCE - No Custom Music patch.esp
235 eb     Vivid Snow.esp
236 ec     MERGE_Environment.esp
237 ed     ELFX_Patches.esp
           Enhanced Interiors Radioactive ELFX Patch.esp
238 ee     Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
239 ef     MERGEOtherPatches.esp
240 f0     MERGE_Items.esp
241 f1     MERGE_Effects_Magic.esp
           Enhanced Interiors Longhouses ELFX patch.esp
           Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp
242 f2     MERGE_NPCs.esp
           ETaC - Dawnstar ELFX Patch.esp
           ETaC - Riverwood ELFX Patch.esp
243 f3     Merge_HearthfireStuff.esp
244 f4     MERGE_Character_Assets.esp
           ETaC - Darkwater Crossing ELFX Patch.esp
245 f5     MERGE_Equipment.esp
246 f6     MERGE_Armor.esp
           AOS2_DSI Patch.esp
           AOS2_WAF Patch.esp
247 f7     MERGE_FS_Weapons.esp
248 f8     MERGE_Sound_Fixes.esp
           AOS2_EBT Patch.esp
           AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp
           AOS2_TrueStorms Patch.esp
           AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp
249 f9     MERGE_Crowns.esp
250 fa     PatchusMaximus.esp
251 fb     Bashed Patch, 0.esp
252 fc     DynDOLOD.esp


Posted

to help out with what Grey Cloud is explaining about iHUD:

 

on startup iHUD will hide all Hud elements, and only show them if something hit you/using up MP HP SP

 

if "link all skyUI widgets" is activated it will hide ALL widgets, even those of other mods

 

if you want to quickly test if its just an configuration issue with iHUD:

- choose iHUD hotkey

- activate "key press toggels"

- press hotkey

=> hud will show up and stays

 

if no hud shows up: your right you have an issue with your ingame HUD and not with iHUD^^

iHUD.jpg.aca127e8aebc64374d9ce723ebb32146.jpg

 

 

in addition you can configure in SkyUI MCM how long the widget of effects will be visible,

configure them to stay always and drink a potion to check if the widgets pop up

 

EDIT1:

and there is a unofficial high resolution patch on nexus too, not sure if you merged it somewhere or if its that important

 

EDIT2:

There are long runs of that load that are in alphabetical order. => what grey cloud said: you should check that out

 

Posted
9 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

That load order is needs LOOT. That SCO Winter esp should not be before Dawnguard and the other DLCs. There are long runs of that load that are in alphabetical order.

All the way from AurlynSerenityOverhaul.esp to XPMSE.esp

Why not? Your mod manager or LOOT will tell you.

 

Even running a Cray super computer you would not get 60 fps from that load order.

What do you mean 'it doesn't do anything'? And by 'to take screenshots' do you mean to clear the screen?

1. I already told you, I am running LOOT

2. Because I have a few deactivated esps. I don't use or have not yet decided on using. That's why I said around 300.

3. What do you want me to say? That I lied? After getting out of the Live Another Life dungeon, I had around 55 fps consistently, until I got into combat and even then, it didn't drop very low. Didn't watch the counter while in combat.

4.Yes, I used to use Ihud to turn off the HUD when I wanted to take a screenshot. Now however pressing X doesn't do anything, the option is enabled in the MCM.

Posted
Spoiler
14 minutes ago, ronmose said:

used Zap8, deleted ZEP, thanks, i didn't see that.

 

 

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     SCO Winter Landscape Decoloration.esp
  3  3     Dawnguard.esm
  4  4     HearthFires.esm
  5  5     Dragonborn.esm
  6  6     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  7  7     SCO Winter Landscape Decoloration - Solstheim.esp
  8  8     Unofficial Skyrim City Patch Modified.esm
  9  9     Skyrim Supplemental Patch.esp
 10  a     RaceCompatibility.esm
 11  b     ApachiiHair.esm
 12  c     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
 13  d     ApachiiHairMales.esm
 14  e     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 15  f     Femboy Reborn -Base-.esm
 16 10     SexLab.esm
 17 11     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 18 12     SexLabAroused.esm
 19 13     Unique Flowers & Plants.esm
 20 14     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 21 15     MiasLair.esp
 22 16     Falskaar.esm
 23 17     Unofficial Falskaar Patch.esp
 24 18     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 25 19     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 26 1a     ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
 27 1b     Gray Fox Cowl.esm
 28 1c     Heretical Resources.esm
 29 1d     moonpath.esm
 30 1e     ITortureFramework.esm
           JSwords.esm
 31 1f     NPCs of Dibella - Resources.esm
 32 20     hdtHighHeel.esm
 33 21     paradise_halls.esm
           HighResTexturePack01.esp
           HighResTexturePack02.esp
           HighResTexturePack03.esp
 34 22     Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
 35 23     UIExtensions.esp
 36 24     SOS - Femboy.esp
 37 25     RichMerchants_Less.esp
 38 26     EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
 39 27     Distinct Skyrim Landscapes.esp
 40 28     Enhanced Interiors Radioactive.esp
 41 29     Enhanced Landscapes.esp
 42 2a     Dark_Forests.esp
 43 2b     ELFX - Exteriors.esp
 44 2c     The Forts of Skyrim-Rebuilt.esp
 45 2d     CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
 46 2e     FlowerFields.esp
 47 2f     Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods-32Bit SKYRIM.esp
 48 30     Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
 49 31     FFO.esp
 50 32     Enhanced Interiors Taverns with ELFX.esp
 51 33     WetandCold.esp
 52 34     AOS.esp
 53 35     Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
 54 36     3DNPC.esp
 55 37     GenesisOfSolstheim.esp
 56 38     WhiterunHoldForest.esp
 57 39     Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
 58 3a     Tamriel Reloaded Flora.esp
 59 3b     Book Covers Skyrim.esp
 60 3c     paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp
 61 3d     UG2Redux.esp
 62 3e     DeviantKaleds_Nord_Ship_Replacers.esp
           Obsidian Mountain Fogs For LE.esp
 63 3f     ETaC - Dawnstar.esp
 64 40     Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp
           Honeyside.esp
 65 41     ETaC - Riverwood.esp
 66 42     Helgen Reborn.esp
           Treeswinedave.esp
 67 43     Dilon Vul.esp
 68 44     Undeath.esp
 69 45     Realistic Boat Bobbing.esp
           Weathered Road Signs.esp
 70 46     AnnaNPCs.esp
 71 47     NPCs of Dibella - Females.esp
 72 48     NPC_Overhaul_V_2_.esp
 73 49     OpulentThievesGuild.esp
 74 4a     Birdsofskyrim.esp
           SLO_StoneWalls.esp
 75 4b     ETaC - Darkwater Crossing.esp
           AnnaNPCs-WhiteWaterInn-3.0.4.esp
 76 4c     CWIELnFXPatch.esp
           Captured Dreams.esp
 77 4d     HearthfireMultiKid.esp
 78 4e     whiterun spruce by revan1199.esp
 79 4f     Snowy AF Windhelm.esp
 80 50     Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
 81 51     hearthfireextended.esp
 82 52     Lurking in the shadows.esp
 83 53     marriagemod - alpha v3.esp
 84 54     AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
 85 55     Aurlyn.esp
 86 56     marriagemod - hf.esp
           RBB Long Boats.esp
           BirdsHFclean.esp
 87 57     hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp
 88 58     AnnaNPCs-AndunielsMeadery.esp
 89 59     The Ruins.esp
           Enhanced Interiors Radioactive SPO Patch.esp
           goldpilesyum.esp
           dr_bandolier.esp
           Cloaks.esp
 90 5a     Windfull Skyrim.esp
 91 5b     Populated Forts Towers Places Legendary.esp
 92 5c     AliciaPainSlut.esp
 93 5d     PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
 94 5e     Pre PaMa WAFR CCOR Patch.esp
 95 5f     Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
 96 60     Immersive Weapons.esp
 97 61     WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
 98 62     PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
 99 63     PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
100 64     PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
           fallentreebridges.esp
           RBB Large Boats.esp
101 65     Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
102 66     Enhanced Interiors Longhouses.esp
103 67     moonpath_questdata.esp
           Atlas Legendary.esp
104 68     Better Vampires.esp
105 69     PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp
           JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
           Vivid Weathers.esp
106 6a     Immersive Patrols II.esp
107 6b     Foggy Morthal and Swamp.esp
           RBB Row Boats.esp
108 6c     TKAA.esp
109 6d     3DNPC TKAA Patch.esp
110 6e     83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp
111 6f     AFT_iNPCFix.esp
112 70     DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
113 71     Enhanced Landscapes - Patch.esp
114 72     Falskaar Wildlife.esp
115 73     flaho_shi_eagles_nest_ENG.esp
116 74     WindPath.esp
           Morgensterns Mushroom circles.esp
           RBB Long Boats - Falskaar.esp
117 75     shezrieshfkitchen.esp
118 76     shezrieshfkitchenhel.esp
119 77     Dreamborne Islands.esp
120 78     FarmhouseChimneys.esp
121 79     RealisticWaterTwo.esp
122 7a     dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
123 7b     fogrimlegendaryedition.esp
124 7c     Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics.esp
125 7d     TrueStorms.esp
126 7e     dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
           The Ordinary Women.esp
           Noobshire.esp
           Adrianne.esp
           Animated Dragon Wings.esp
           Enhanced Interiors Radioactive 3DNPC Patch.esp
           Enhanced Interiors Radioactive ELFX Enhancer Patch.esp
           paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp
127 7f     Animated Enchantments.esp
           Animated Fairy Wings.esp
128 80     AnnaNPCs-AlternativeFaces.esp
129 81     RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
130 82     Morning Fogs.esp
           DeviantKaleds_Nord_Ship_Replacers_DawnguardPatch_1.0.esp
131 83     EmbersHD.esp
132 84     Men of Winter.esp
133 85     stonhenge + hilltops.esp
           Immersive Music Temples.esp
           Immersive Music.esp
134 86     RBB - Realistic Water Two.esp
           FS_Eidolon.esp
135 87     HeartfireBalconies.esp
           DeviantKaleds_Nord_Ship_Replacers_1.2USLEEP.esp
           FM - Heljarchen Library.esp
           FM - Lakeview Library.esp
136 88     pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp
           Skyland Imperial Forts and Dungeons.esp
137 89     My Home Is Your Home.esp
138 8a     Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
           Aradia Lace Dress.esp
           Astaroth Horns - All in one.esp
           Astrid.esp
139 8b     Males of Skyrim.esp
140 8c     IB - All-in-One.esp
141 8d     AurlynSerenityOverhaul.esp
142 8e     BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp
           BeandBarbSpecials.esp
           Beards.esp
           Better Dynamic Ash.esp
           Bijin Warmaidens.esp
143 8f     TCoW Improvement.esp
           Bijin Wives.esp
           BlackWisteria.esp
           Blade and Soul Negligee.esp
           BnS Scorpion Set.esp
144 90     Book of UUNP - Textures.esp
145 91     Bound Armory.esp
           Brows.esp
           Carlotta.esp
           Celes Nightingale Armor.esp
           Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
146 92     Compatibility_ICoW_CoWNPCImprov.esp
147 93     P1FlyingRing.esp
148 94     Convenient Horses.esp
           CustomPaints.esp
149 95     SkyUI.esp
150 96     DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp
           DaedraHuntress.esp
           DaedricCrownCraftable.esp
151 97     DiethardtWarpaint.esp
           Differently Ebony.esp
           DirtCliffVariation.esp
           DragonCrownCraftable.esp
           DragonPlateCrownCraftable.esp
152 98     ELFX - Moonpath.esp
           ELFX - NoHoneyside.esp
           EbonyCrownCraftable.esp
           Elegant Beauty Stunning Eyes Remastered.esp
153 99     Elisif Makeover.esp
           ElvenCrownCraftable.esp
           ElvenSorcArmor.esp
154 9a     Eyes of Aber.esp
155 9b     FNIS.esp
156 9c     FNIS_PCEA2.esp
157 9d     FNISspells.esp
           FS_NamelessLight.esp
           FS_Skycutter.esp
           FS_SwordOfTheSeeker.esp
           FS_Ygrayne.esp
           Fairytale.esp
158 9e     FarmhouseChimneysFalskaar.esp
159 9f     FireBurns.esp
160 a0     FloppySOS.esp
161 a1     ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
162 a2     ForgottenMagic_Redone_PerMa Patch.esp
           GDZZJJDH.esp
           Gerdur.esp
           Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp
           GlassCrownCraftable.esp
163 a3     Gray Fox Cowl - Camel patch.esp
           HagravenSkinShaders.esp
           Headtracking.esp
164 a4     Hearthfire Attics - All-In-One.esp
165 a5     HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
           HeavyMetal.esp
           Hentai_mixed_Armor.esp
166 a6     Hott Interesting NPCs.esp
           Hulda.esp
           ISCompendium AOS Patch.esp
           ISCompendium CCO Patch.esp
           Idgrod the younger.esp
167 a7     Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp
           Ingun.esp
           Irileth.esp
           Ivy Valentine Armor.esp
168 a8     KS Hairdo's.esp
           KURESE Gloria conversion.esp
           Karliah.esp
169 a9     LadyHorus_TERA.esp
170 aa     Lepidoptera Of Skyrim DLC1.esp
           Lieyes_v1.0.esp
           LindsHumanEyes.esp
           LindsMerEyes.esp
           Lisette.esp
171 ab     LostGrimoire.esp
           1nivWICCloaks.esp
           1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
           Mage Outfit Texture Overhaul.esp
           Maven.esp
172 ac     Men of Winter - Compatibility Patch.esp
           MonsterEyes.esp
           NB-Scars.esp
173 ad     Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics TS.esp
           Neo's Lei Fang & Christie.esp
           ORM-Arvak.esp
           OrcFemaleWalk.esp
           Osare Maid Outfit.esp
174 ae     PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp
175 af     PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp
176 b0     PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
177 b1     PlayRandomIdle.esp
178 b2     Pre PaMa Bound Armory Patch.esp
179 b3     PrettyKhajiit.esp
180 b4     RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
181 b5     RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp
           RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp
182 b6     RaceMenu.esp
183 b7     RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
184 b8     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
185 b9     Real Roads.esp
186 ba     RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp
187 bb     RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
           RiftenMural.esp
           Rikke.esp
           SGEyebrows.esp
188 bc     SLALAnimObj.esp
189 bd     SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
190 be     SLAnimLoader.esp
191 bf     SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp
           SOS - ERF Equipable Horse Penis.esp
           SOS - ERF Horse Penis Addon.esp
           SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
           SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
           SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
           SOSRaceMenu.esp
192 c0     SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp
           SUNMagicArmor.esp
193 c1     Saeri_Khajiit_Hair.esp
           Sapphire.esp
194 c2     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
           Serana.esp
195 c3     SexLab Cumshot.esp
196 c4     SexLabDefeat.esp
           Skull Armor.esp
197 c5     Skyrim 2017 TPTC - Parallax Maps.esp
           Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
           Skysan_ENBHorseTrough.esp
198 c6     SlaveTats.esp
199 c7     Smoking Torches and Candles.esp
200 c8     TKDodge.esp
           TW3Eyes.esp
           TavernClothes-MTM.esp
           The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
           TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
           Tonilia.esp
201 c9     UG2Redux_TU.esp
           UniqueBarbas.esp
202 ca     UniqueWeaponsRedone.esp
           Valerica.esp
           Vex.esp
203 cb     Vivid Landscapes.esp
204 cc     VivisCockcage.esp
205 cd     VivisHorsecages.esp
206 ce     Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
207 cf     WeaponsOf3E.esp
208 d0     WetandCold - Ashes.esp
209 d1     WondersofWeather.esp
210 d2     XPMSE.esp
           aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
           ISC WAFR Patch.esp
           chocoyum.esp
211 d3     dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
212 d4     dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp
213 d5     dcc-dm2.esp
           eggkilleryum.esp
           fox_ThroneXX.esp
           homeymealyum.esp
214 d6     iHUD.esp
215 d7     lilithssickle.esp
216 d8     lilithssickle_PerMa_Patch.esp
217 d9     mintylightningmod.esp
218 da     pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-DDx-patch.esp
           pahe-tdf-patch.esp
219 db     sandboxcylinderheight.esp
           sirwho_Wizard_Hat.esp
           vImmersiveBeds - HFDG.esp
           vImmersiveBeds.esp
           wjun28.esp
220 dc     Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp
221 dd     Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
222 de     RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
223 df     Devious Devices For Him.esp
224 e0     VivisCockCage Addon for DD.esp
225 e1     pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-patch.esp
226 e2     VioLens.esp
           MatureSkinComplexions.esp
           TAotB - New Facial Hairs.esp
           FS_ExorcizamusTe.esp
           ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
227 e3     SCO Winter Edition.esp
228 e4     SCO Winter Edition - Solstheim.esp
229 e5     SCO Winter Edition - Hearthfire Patch.esp
230 e6     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
           FarmhouseChimneysLAL.esp
           PCE - Live Another Life Patch.esp
231 e7     ELFX - Hardcore.esp
232 e8     Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp
233 e9     PCE - 3DNPC Patch.esp
234 ea     PCE - No Custom Music patch.esp
235 eb     Vivid Snow.esp
236 ec     MERGE_Environment.esp
237 ed     ELFX_Patches.esp
           Enhanced Interiors Radioactive ELFX Patch.esp
238 ee     Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
239 ef     MERGEOtherPatches.esp
240 f0     MERGE_Items.esp
241 f1     MERGE_Effects_Magic.esp
           Enhanced Interiors Longhouses ELFX patch.esp
           Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp
242 f2     MERGE_NPCs.esp
           ETaC - Dawnstar ELFX Patch.esp
           ETaC - Riverwood ELFX Patch.esp
243 f3     Merge_HearthfireStuff.esp
244 f4     MERGE_Character_Assets.esp
           ETaC - Darkwater Crossing ELFX Patch.esp
245 f5     MERGE_Equipment.esp
246 f6     MERGE_Armor.esp
           AOS2_DSI Patch.esp
           AOS2_WAF Patch.esp
247 f7     MERGE_FS_Weapons.esp
248 f8     MERGE_Sound_Fixes.esp
           AOS2_EBT Patch.esp
           AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp
           AOS2_TrueStorms Patch.esp
           AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp
249 f9     MERGE_Crowns.esp
250 fa     PatchusMaximus.esp
251 fb     Bashed Patch, 0.esp
252 fc     DynDOLOD.esp

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you and you're welcome.

 

Now, as I expect that you've come to see I have some experience with Paradise Halls. So, why do you have two versions of the DD patch running? (218 and 225; by the way, this is part of why I prefer LOOT's load order. It makes referring to mods much easier.) 

 

I know you ran LOOT but SLAL must come before the animation packs that use it. So manually move 190 up before 188.

 

Turn off (do not eliminate) XPMSE. You don't appear to have any mod that requires the XPMSE .esp to be activated (notably Dual Sheath Redux). The skeleton will remain and you will have no problems from your animations as a result.

 

Get rid of the lakeview manor-pahe cell add on. It's glitchy (so is the Fellglow Slaver Camp if you have it). To replace the lakeview manor cell if you feel you must have one, look at this instead:

 

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/6205-hearthfire-dungeon-addon/

 

For the SSlaver Camp (if you have it) get Musje's And You Get a Slave (AYGAS).

 

I think that I have given you enough to look at. Make what changes make sense to you and try again. Don't forget that anytime you change your load order (by adding mods, deleting mods or simply running LOOT), you must start a new game. Too much "stuff" is stored in saves (including some you thought you just eliminated). The only fair way to test your new load order is in a new game.

Posted
6 minutes ago, Psalam said:
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Thank you and you're welcome.

 

Now, as I expect that you've come to see I have some experience with Paradise Halls. So, why do you have two versions of the DD patch running? (218 and 225; by the way, this is part of why I prefer LOOT's load order. It makes referring to mods much easier.)  

 

I know you ran LOOT but SLAL must come before the animation packs that use it. So manually move 190 up before 188.

 

Turn off (do not eliminate) XPMSE. You don't appear to have any mod that requires the XPMSE .esp to be activated (notably Dual Sheath Redux). The skeleton will remain and you will have no problems from your animations as a result. 

 

Get rid of the lakeview manor-pahe cell add on. It's glitchy (so is the Fellglow Slaver Camp if you have it). To replace the lakeview manor cell if you feel you must have one, look at this instead:

 

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/6205-hearthfire-dungeon-addon/

 

For the SSlaver Camp (if you have it) get Musje's And You Get a Slave (AYGAS).

 

I think that I have given you enough to look at. Make what changes make sense to you and try again. Don't forget that anytime you change your load order (by adding mods, deleting mods or simply running LOOT), you must start a new game. Too much "stuff" is stored in saves (including some you thought you just eliminated). The only fair way to test your new load order is in a new game.

I use two patches because on the pahe extended page, there are two one for ddx and one for dd, so I thought you had to use both.

I always start a new game when trying things out.

will disable the lakeview manor cell. Any tips on what tool to use to move esps around manually? I don't want to Edit metadata every time. I used to use NMM for that, but I use vortex now.

 

Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it.

Posted
48 minutes ago, Psalam said:

So, why do you have two versions of the DD patch running?

yes its two patches for PAHE and DD as ronemose said.

 

about the patches from the pahe masterslave him/herself (cliftonJD):

 



for the time being the dd patches just add those keywords to treat the dd collars as well as many other dd items as leash collars which there's also an mcm toggle for advanced leash collars so you don't need to cast that spell to prevent escape when the slave is wearing the leash collars...however if you're using the dev builds, i can't guarantee it won't effect dd functions when they change the properties of the items like they did from 3.x to 4.x

each version of the patch is made for the specific dd version listed on that patch so we don't mess up dd with the patch (with exception of the older 3.x patch which is compatible with older 2.x dd)

its also been requested to block speech on gagged slaves so at some point, i maybe able to patch that in thru the dd patches as well.

future versions i plan to expand to include more content such as dildo and/or butt plug training the slaves effecting their sex training values, but it looks like i won't need to patch in to add training for the dildos/plugs

Posted
1 hour ago, ronmose said:

1. I already told you, I am running LOOT

Not properly. Which mod manager are you using?

 

1 hour ago, ronmose said:

2. Because I have a few deactivated esps. I don't use or have not yet decided on using. That's why I said around 300.

Deactivated esps do not take up a number in either mod manager or LOOT. Around 300 esps is too many, the limit is 254 and you should keep as far below that as possible. And in any case, we are trying to help you here yet you can't be arsed to answer a simple question?

 

1 hour ago, ronmose said:

3. What do you want me to say? That I lied? After getting out of the Live Another Life dungeon, I had around 55 fps consistently, until I got into combat and even then, it didn't drop very low. Didn't watch the counter while in combat.

Well you just proved me correct. You originally stated 60 fps and now it's 55 and falling.

 

 

Posted
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9 hours ago, ronmose said:

I use two patches because on the pahe extended page, there are two one for ddx and one for dd, so I thought you had to use both.

I always start a new game when trying things out.

will disable the lakeview manor cell. Any tips on what tool to use to move esps around manually? I don't want to Edit metadata every time. I used to use NMM for that, but I use vortex now.

 

Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it.

 

 

Normally I use my mod manager (NMM) to move mods manually. I am sure that Vortex has a similar capability. If it doesn't or you just can't find it, you can do this in LOOT.

 

The best way to deal with PAHE right now is to do the full install and tick off the .esp's that you do not want. If you do that you need only download one file. As Donttouchmethere astutely points out, you don't really need the DD patches for PAHE now (as things are going they are likely to be more useful in the future but that will come with another upgrade).

 

Feel free to ask additional questions and let us know how it all works out.

Posted
10 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Not properly. Which mod manager are you using?

 

Deactivated esps do not take up a number in either mod manager or LOOT. Around 300 esps is too many, the limit is 254 and you should keep as far below that as possible. And in any case, we are trying to help you here yet you can't be arsed to answer a simple question?

 

Well you just proved me correct. You originally stated 60 fps and now it's 55 and falling.

 

 

1. I'm using Vortex.

2. I thought you meant number of esps I use. Mod Managers tell you how many you have activated and they tell you how many you have in total. (around 350, can't tell exactly because I'm at work). But they can't tell you how many esps are deactivated but used by Merges, CCOR and stuff like that. I was tired, it was late so I couldn't really count them all so I said "around 300". I have 254 activated. Sorry "I couldn't be arsed" to answer a question I didn't know the exact answer to. Also I have answered many questions from others and they have actually been pretty helpful.

3. Are you kidding me?

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Psalam said:
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Normally I use my mod manager (NMM) to move mods manually. I am sure that Vortex has a similar capability. If it doesn't or you just can't find it, you can do this in LOOT.

 

The best way to deal with PAHE right now is to do the full install and tick off the .esp's that you do not want. If you do that you need only download one file. As Donttouchmethere astutely points out, you don't really need the DD patches for PAHE now (as things are going they are likely to be more useful in the future but that will come with another upgrade).

 

Feel free to ask additional questions and let us know how it all works out.

Will deactivate the patches for now, thank you. I don't think problems like this would effect the HUD in that way. I'm almost certain it has either something to do with the ENB (Rudy ENB with skyrimPrefs.ini and enblocal.ini taken from the UltimateModding Guide) or some other graphical setting, though I have taken some time to check the HUD mods. 

What's really weird is the thing I mentioned in the original post, that if I type in "togglemenus" in the game's console it "crashes". But I have never seen a "crash" like that, in any programm. I can tab out, tab back in and hear music and other sounds for an indefinite amount of time. The screen is completely frozen, but I can't hear myself running or jumping either.

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You may be entirely right, I don't know. What I do know is that when you add mods to Skyrim you don't just add them to the vanilla game you also add them to all the other mods that you've added. That is why load order is important (and why Grey Cloud keeps harping on it and LOOT). Whether you load a mod before or after another mod makes a difference in how the game engine "interprets" it. This fact is the reason that there is an entire thread under Skyrim General Discussion entitled something like "Share the Weird Quirks of your Modded Skyrim Game." When you mix mods the results can be entirely unpredictable (and sometimes hilarious - Grey Cloud in particular has some rib tickling posts in that thread). So, the most likely answer to your problem is not, "this mod really messed me up." I've seen that happen and have a pretty good handle on the mods that are likely to do just that. The far more likely answer to your problem is "this combination of mods is giving me this problem." And, if that is the case the first logical step is to get rid of all the mods that you really don't need anyway. Try running a new game (after LOOT and FNIS, of course) and see what happens. If that didn't work you can try eliminating other things according to your own priorities until you find the "trigger" mod.

Good luck!

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