mod [mod] RimJobWorld

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Nobody Important said:

What am i supposed to do?

Just accept that i won't be using one of my favorite mods (RJW)?

No, i want to let the devs know, that me along with a lot of others would prefer if PrepareCarefully was supported.

Yeah, that sounds like a good idea actually. If you refuse to use mods that your 'favourite mod' is compatible with then that's on you.

[Nobody Important]

  

3 hours ago, Ed86 said:

why dont you people roll back to b19, it "worked fine" then... i mean other than breaking all alien races.... totally fine

or... just ignore whiners

 

how much smaller?

 

no one gives a fuck.

community comes and goes, rjw stays

Because b19 doesn't work with the new expansion that i spent all my saved up money on. That is also the reason why i can't pay you to do it.

It also didn't break all alien races. There might have been bugs, but my aliens worked fine.

I also don't know why compatibility for some shitty minor alien races mods would be higher on your list than support for THE biggest mod out there.

 

A lot smaller. RJW doesn't have anywhere close to 1.5 million unique installs.

 

Wait are you telling me you don't give a fuck about what people in the RJW community want?

 I don't know why you're being this hostile.

 

Am i not allowed to voice that i would quite like it if your awesome mod worked with an absolute must-have mod?

Like i don't know if you've noticed but i would literally give you money i need to eat to code things.

1 hour ago, dovahnurse said:

Yeah, that sounds like a good idea actually. If you refuse to use mods that your 'favourite mod' is compatible with then that's on you.

What the fuck?

Am i supposed to literally drop all my other favorite mods because of RJW? Is that actually what you're saying?

Would you not bitch and moan if RJW suddenly stopped functioning with one of YOUR favorite mods?

 

 

 

And oh wow would you look at this it turns out even CharacterEditor isn't fully bug free with RJW.

 

 

 

 

Seriously. I like you guys. I didn't mean to impose anything on you i just wanted to voice my wish that i wish you could make the things compatible.

 

[NeverLucky4Life]

11 minutes ago, Nobody Important said:

1.Am i supposed to literally drop all my other favorite mods because of RJW? Is that actually what you're saying?

Would you not bitch and moan if RJW suddenly stopped functioning with one of YOUR favorite mods?

 

2.And oh wow would you look at this it turns out even CharacterEditor isn't fully bug free

 

1. Yes pick and choose mods, RJW is not responsible for fixing other mods.

Maybe you could fix it your self since you are the only person who seems set on path of most resistance. I my self am tired of Fixing people's saves due to EDB PC bugs even when RJW is not used.

 

2. Odds are very high they did something stupid or used a mod that modifies the flow of Ticks.

[Kashked]

It's easy to *wish* for compability, but PC messes with a lot of stuff under the hood, so for most people we just kind of accept that it isn't happening since it's not worth the bother. In modding there always comes that choice, mod A or mod B are incompatible, which do I choose?

 

And a tip for the future, and the reason our friendly community is getting a bit pissy here... there is a HUGE difference between *asking* for compability and *demanding* it. Pro-tip, you can never demand anything from someone who does it for free, because there is no relation of dependancy between you. If you don't like it... that doesn't matter. You're not a customer. You've been told it's not gonna happen for reasons. Anyhow, reasons doesn't matter, it isn't happening.

 

Now choose, mod A or mod B? Or use both, and accept the bugs and issues that comes with it, that is always an option. I've done it for other mods.

[Nobody Important]

Maybe i didn't phrase things correctly.

I didn't mean to demand anything.

 

Also as for Ed86... how much would i need to save up to pay you for it?

[Guest]

24 minutes ago, Nobody Important said:

What the fuck?

Am i supposed to literally drop all my other favorite mods because of RJW? Is that actually what you're saying?

Would you not bitch and moan if RJW suddenly stopped functioning with one of YOUR favorite mods?

No no. Just drop RJW. See? That way you'll only unsubscribe to one mod instead of... however many it is you think aren't compatible with RJW. Although, so far as I can see your main complaint is that you want to use Prepare Carefully, which does the samething as Character Editor, but isn't RJW compatible. I would just switch to Character editor if I were you. Would solve all your problems, and won't effect any other mods.

 

Also, stop talking for the community. It's just you at the moment.

[Rimworld Traveller]

3 hours ago, Bastolve said:

Better start saving up then.

 

I've located some alternatives to Facial Stuff and Psychology that work together with RJW.

[NL] Facial Animation

RJW seems to have support for this, but it won't do everything that facial stuff mod does but if you were using facial stuff for the purposes of pawn expression then this will suffice.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1635901197

1-2-3 Personalities

Obviously not as in-depth as Psychology but still adds depth to each pawn's character. Personally I would put Psychology in the trash can as I believe the mod is a lag fiesta.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2527258500

Yep, Facial Animation has always worked no problems.  I also have 123 Personalities and, while it doesn't do much (anything?) yet I'm hoping it develops into something cool.  [SYR] Individuality has always worked as well.

[GoldenSatan]

So i read up a lot in this topic finding a fix for ChJees Androids, seems in 2019 there was a big discussion about if they should get pregnant.
I did that because in my game 99% of them spawn without genitals, like one in fifty has like one bionic part, and their fertility is always 0 even with parts and drugs that give a flat bonus (I understand enough of modding to open .txt files and copy parts from one place to another).

I read that Androids are supported, only a comment about that their fertility should be taken away by Ed89.
Did that happen and I missed it, or is my game just fucked?

[GoldenSatan]

5 minutes ago, dovahnurse said:

No no. Just drop RJW. See? That way you'll only unsubscribe to one mod instead of... however many it is you think aren't compatible with RJW. Although, so far as I can see your main complaint is that you want to use Prepare Carefully, which does the samething as Character Editor, but isn't RJW compatible. I would just switch to Character editor if I were you. Would solve all your problems, and won't effect any other mods.

 

Also, stop talking for the community. It's just you at the moment.

I agree with this guy.
Prepare Carefully breaks alien races. You should go to them and complain there, not to EVERY MOD that doesn't work with PreCar and whine there to make it work.
You can't bully 9 out of 10 people for not "fitting into the group" just because you are number 10.

[Kashked]

2 minutes ago, Rimworld Traveller said:

Yep, Facial Animation has always worked no problems.  I also have 123 Personalities and, while it doesn't do much (anything?) yet I'm hoping it develops into something cool.  [SYR] Individuality has always worked as well.

 

1-2-3 Personalities ties into the Speak up-mod though. As far as I know it doesn't do anything for actual gameplay mechanically, but it will influence how your pawns speak to eachother if you use Speak up. Not sure if that is tied into anything about their relations though, but it's a nice bit of flavour.

[Skömer]

6 minutes ago, GoldenSatan said:

So i read up a lot in this topic finding a fix for ChJees Androids, seems in 2019 there was a big discussion about if they should get pregnant.
I did that because in my game 99% of them spawn without genitals, like one in fifty has like one bionic part, and their fertility is always 0 even with parts and drugs that give a flat bonus (I understand enough of modding to open .txt files and copy parts from one place to another).

I read that Androids are supported, only a comment about that their fertility should be taken away by Ed89.
Did that happen and I missed it, or is my game just fucked?

CHJees Androids only get genitals if they have certain backstories, for fertility you need to install archotech genitals

[Nobody Important]

4 hours ago, Bastolve said:

Better start saving up then.

 

I've located some alternatives to Facial Stuff and Psychology that work together with RJW.

[NL] Facial Animation

RJW seems to have support for this, but it won't do everything that facial stuff mod does but if you were using facial stuff for the purposes of pawn expression then this will suffice.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1635901197

1-2-3 Personalities

Obviously not as in-depth as Psychology but still adds depth to each pawn's character. Personally I would put Psychology in the trash can as I believe the mod is a lag fiesta.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2527258500

I will save up. I literally will rather forego having food, than this.

I really really love this mod, and i didn't mean to demand anything.

 

RJW has support for it but CE doesn't. Meaning that i can't customize things, which is exactly the problem.

 

1-2-3 is nowhere near close to psychology.

Psychology is one of the most in depth and amazing game altering mods there is.

 

I really appreciate the effort, but i know what i'm talking about.

36 minutes ago, GoldenSatan said:

I agree with this guy.
Prepare Carefully breaks alien races. You should go to them and complain there, not to EVERY MOD that doesn't work with PreCar and whine there to make it work.
You can't bully 9 out of 10 people for not "fitting into the group" just because you are number 10.

 

It's the other way around.

You seem to have this idea that alien race mods are this huge thing that almost everyone uses.

They are not.

THEY are the 1 out of 10.

Prepare Carefully is literally THE most used mod out there, with 1.5 MILLION people using it. It also doesn't break humanoid alien races, since HumanoidAlienRaces explicitly works with PrepareCarefully. There are only minor bugs when they are used in conjunction with RJW, which happens even when you use Character Editor.

 

And the 1 out of 10 people using alien races mods bitched and moaned enough about minor glitches until RJW dropped compatibility for the more popular PC.

I find this upsetting.

 

  

No no. Just drop RJW. See? That way you'll only unsubscribe to one mod instead of... however many it is you think aren't compatible with RJW. Although, so far as I can see your main complaint is that you want to use Prepare Carefully, which does the samething as Character Editor, but isn't RJW compatible. I would just switch to Character editor if I were you. Would solve all your problems, and won't effect any other mods.

 

Also, stop talking for the community. It's just you at the moment.

Do you like... not read my responses at all?

I HAVE tried Character Editor. Precisely because it was recommended as a replacement for PC.

 

This is the fourth time that i explain that Character Editor does NOT do what Prepare Carefully does.

AT ALL.

It is incompatible with Psychology, with facial stuff, and with other custom things.

 

So i either can't have custom psychological traits, can't have custom facial features, can't have other custom elements (new clothing regions for example)...

Or i can't have RJW.

 

And i'm talking about the community, because someone was complaining two days ago, how this literally gets brought up on every page of the discussion by someone.

 

I don't mean to demand anything, i would just really like a way to have RJW while also being able to use the other fav mods i have.

If it means that i have to literally pay, i will somehow do it, even if it means saving from the money i have for food.

It's that important to me. I appreciate this mod that much.

 

Edited August 1, 2021 by Nobody Important

[Kashked]

9 minutes ago, Nobody Important said:

 

And i'm talking about the community, because someone was complaining two days ago, how this literally gets brought up on every page of the discussion by someone.

 

 

It gets brought up constantly because many people can't be bothered to read the damned mod description on the first page and come whining about bugs that are known to be caused by PC. Generally they go "Oh shit" and then uninstall either PC or RJW at that point.

[Nobody Important]

12 minutes ago, Kashked said:

 

It gets brought up constantly because many people can't be bothered to read the damned mod description on the first page and come whining about bugs that are known to be caused by PC. Generally they go "Oh shit" and then uninstall either PC or RJW at that point.

Yes but that means that many many people are trying to use the two together.

Which is my point.

 

Anyway i'm asking ed86 how much i'd need to pay.

[Ed86]

1 hour ago, Nobody Important said:

  

It also didn't break all alien races. There might have been bugs, but my aliens worked fine.

I also don't know why compatibility for some shitty minor alien races mods would be higher on your list than support for THE biggest mod out there.

 

A lot smaller. RJW doesn't have anywhere close to 1.5 million unique installs.

 

Wait are you telling me you don't give a fuck about what people in the RJW community want?

 I don't know why you're being this hostile.

 

well it did break rjw comps breaking sex

it broke all alien races by replacing them with humans effectively breaking all your starting pawns, it broke all pregnancy mods so all alien races could only birth humans

 

fucking alien waifus > 1.5 million DL mod, that you use only once to screwup starting pawns

 

i was thinking about PC community

 

49 minutes ago, Nobody Important said:

Also as for Ed86... how much would i need to save up to pay you for it?

i actually dont know, i dont want to bother with it, probably needs few weeks debugging and major rewrite, and im not optimist enough to think that it will be accepted into main mod

 

either way the issue is on PC side, your wasting your time here

[Nobody Important]

7 minutes ago, Ed86 said:

well it did break rjw comps breaking sex

it broke all alien races by replacing them with humans effectively breaking all your starting pawns, it broke all pregnancy mods so all alien races could only birth humans

The pregnancy mods were broken, but it absolutely works fine with alien races and has for a while now! You just need to select the appropriate faction in the PC settings!

 

7 minutes ago, Ed86 said:

fucking alien waifus > 1.5 million DL mod, that you use only once to screwup starting pawns

I use it to have the pawns i want to fuck and not be reliant on the game randomly giving me a pawn that's not a psychopath.

Like what good is fucking alien waifus when you can't make their psychological traits and facial features look appealing?

 

7 minutes ago, Ed86 said:

i was thinking about PC community

I was talking about this community. Looking at the previous pages, many people here seem to want to use PC.

7 minutes ago, Ed86 said:

i actually dont know, i dont want to bother with it, probably needs few weeks debugging and major rewrite, and im not optimist enough to think that it will be accepted into main mod

Aw.

7 minutes ago, Ed86 said:

either way the issue is on PC side, your wasting your time here

I don't know why you say the issue is on the PC side, when things work fine for me after editing the about.xml.

HumanoidAlienRaces also works totally fine with PC.

I think the issues you're talking about were caused by the pregnancy mods not being written well enough.

Edited August 1, 2021 by Nobody Important

[420BonerHitler]

Hey good people, hoping for some help with a constant exception error spam. Pawns will stand in place and the game stops ticking them, whether they are colonists, prisoners, or visitors. The ingame log gets spammed with "Exception ticking (pawn name). Exception: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object" and the hugslog gets spammed with similar errors but with drawing of the pawns.

It's a new save without prepare carefully ever used, rimworld 1.2.3005 on steam with a fresh rjw installation. Tried reinstalling rjw and the animations addon and humanoid alien races to no avail.

HugsLog.txt

[FoxyNova]

1 hour ago, Nobody Important said:

I don't know why you say the issue is on the PC side, when things work fine for me after editing the about.xml.

HumanoidAlienRaces also works totally fine with PC.

I think the issues you're talking about were caused by the pregnancy mods not being written well enough.

Do you actually like code? I was going to bat for PC myself because most of the stuff it breaks is very fixable with a little bit of save editing, but.... Ed86 is right the issue is on there end.

The problem is that a pawn made with PC does not generate all the extra data that is stored in he-diffs properly, which is fully on them and affects more mods then just RJW... its just that not many mods use extra data in hediffs quite as extensively as RJW does.... so its much easier for this to get missed.

I... have no experience with C# specificly for rimworld, but the only solution I could see for RJW is to check for null owners on the lewd bits when it loads since IIRC(I haven't actualy started a new game in months) that is the most distinctive property of prepare carefuly's meddling, and then if it finds that... wiping out the garbage data and regenerating them.

But I have no idea how easy that would be, it sounds like a pain, and is not something I would blame the developer for being told "that's too much work", or "not possible", at the end of the day there the ones putting there time into this project.

Edited August 1, 2021 by FoxyNova

[Nobody Important]

11 minutes ago, FoxyNova said:

snip

Ahhhh i understand.

But how come this broken generation of hediffs never really caused issues in rjw before? Apart from with alien pregnancies...

Like i have played RJW for years before and i always used PC. I had a couple of issues with duplicate genitals because of conflict with another mod, but this was always trivial to fix.

[Bastolve]

2 hours ago, Nobody Important said:

And the 1 out of 10 people using alien races mods bitched and moaned enough about minor glitches until RJW dropped compatibility for the more popular PC.

I find this upsetting.

Lapelli installs 7k~
Revia installs 17k~

Rakkle installs 19k~
Ferian installs 19k~
Kurin installs 30k~

Nyaron installs 31k~

Dragonian installs 52k~
Rabbie Moonrabbit installs 61k~
and so on...
I missed a lot of race mods, but even then this is evidence of a large audience of people that like aliens in their Rimworld playthrough.

 

Not a good look, blaming other people for your own problem that can be easily solved by switching up the mods you use...

Sure, PC may have 1mill installs on steam, but many of those people aren't in a niche situation like yours and can easily dump PC in exchange for CE in order to adopt RJW into their modlists...

 

Edit#2: Humanoid Alien Races has 526,644 Current Subscribers / installs right now, which is half as popular as PC. Not that popularity matters, but hope this helps you understand why RJW devs decided to support aliens in general (multiple mods) rather than 1 single mod called PC that can be swapped with CE.

 

Edited August 1, 2021 by Bastolve
screwed up quote, added info

[Rimworld Traveller]

Rimworld is a story generator where a weighted random number generator causes events to happen, hopefully memorable events.  Prepare Carefully does not fit the spirit of the game.

 

Rimworld starts with either a group of lucky survivors crashing on a planet or a group of lucky survivors fleeing the destruction of their village.  Prepare Carefully does not fit the narrative of the game.

 

Play the game without Prepare Carefully, it'll be okay.

[Solomon_III]

Little error with better infestations, more precise the "Queen", who is a "queen".

LegacySexPartAdder

        if (text.Contains("Queen"))
        {
            part = Genital_Helper.ovipositorF;
        }

        if (text.Contains("Queen") || text.Contains("queen"))
        {
            part = Genital_Helper.ovipositorF;
        }
 

Who knows, how it's written next.

Still male generated but the important parts always fit the title.
Also on a note with the insect eggs and the birthlist, seems the majority is genereted as egg unknown -> default to parent, will test some stuff, but playing a little bit goes first, so much funny nonsense, which remainds me;

 

Thanks for the work.

[Kashked]

24 minutes ago, Rimworld Traveller said:

Rimworld is a story generator where a weighted random number generator causes events to happen, hopefully memorable events.  Prepare Carefully does not fit the spirit of the game.

 

Rimworld starts with either a group of lucky survivors crashing on a planet or a group of lucky survivors fleeing the destruction of their village.  Prepare Carefully does not fit the narrative of the game.

 

Play the game without Prepare Carefully, it'll be okay.

 

I mean... I gotta both disagree and agree. Half the fun I get out of it is setting up very specific scenarios, part of the reason I loved the idea of Ideology so much. I've done Crashlanded and Lost Tribe before, so I think it's perfectly reasonable to want to be able to set up scenarios. Sometimes that means starting off with pawns wearing certain things and having certain backstories.

[GoldenSatan]

3 hours ago, Skömer said:

CHJees Androids only get genitals if they have certain backstories, for fertility you need to install archotech genitals

thank you, that lines up with what I understood from the 2019 posts.
Let's say I wanna open up the rjw-master folder or the android mod folder and add fertility to the android race diff, to give them a similar treatment like other fertile alien race mods.
Could you point me in the right direction?

[Riversand]

Perverse question, but anyone know how to alter the cum splatters to not get cleaned up, for if i wanted to have cum be a beauty enhancer?