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I've tried almost mod that could be conflicting... but I am stupid and its probably something very easy to fix, its just I don't know what mod(s) it could be. I doubt its dual sheath, however, when I added the patch for it, that's when things just started crashing.

 

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1
Campfire.esm=1
arnima.esm=1
BSAssets.esm=1
BSHeartland.esm=1
BS_DLC_patch.esp=1
moonpath.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1
ApachiiHairMales.esm=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1
Cutting Room Floor.esp=1
HighResTexturePack01.esp=1
HighResTexturePack02.esp=1
HighResTexturePack03.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
fallentreebridges.esp=1
khajiit ears with helmets.esp=1
Map Markers Complete.esp=1
clothingjewelryfix.esp=1
dd-no spinning death animation.esp=1
immediatedragons.esp=1
LPBards.esp=1
lpsleep.esp=1
noautoqueststart_thievesguild_reg.esp=1
pwc-permanent werewolf.esp=1
yield.esp=1
flanseyesforskrim.esp=1
ktxcompleteskyforge.esp=1
ftmusicmod.esp=1
ae_animation_eng.esp=1
EmptyHousesAbandoned.esp=1
NoRespawnHouses.esp=1
SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1
SFO - Dragonborn.esp=1
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
GloriousGrass.esp=1
Grass Field.esp=1
DigitigradeKhajiit+ArgonianRaptor.esp=1
CuttingRoomFloorRemoveAltArmorEffect.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
TailArmors.esp=1
Craftable Horse Barding.esp=1
ArmoredCircletsQuickFox.esp=1
ArmoredCircletsDawnguard&Dragonborn.esp=1
FNIS.esp=1
GiveADogAHome.esp=1
Burning Skies.esp=1
DiverseDragonsCollection3.esp=1
Immersive Horses.esp=1
Immersive Horses - Hearthfire Patch.esp=1
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp=1
chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp=1
UltimateCombat.esp=1
Dogs Into Huskies.esp=1
Convenient Bridges.esp=1
mintylightningmod.esp=1
Supreme Storms.esp=1
Supreme Fog.esp=1
Extra Werewolf Perks.esp=1
Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
TimingIsEverything.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1
Beards.esp=1
PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp=1
PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp=1
AOS.esp=1
AOS2_SupremeStorms Patch.esp=1
Cloaks.esp=1
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1
StewardUniforms.esp=1
ClavicusArgonianMasque.esp=1
SkyRealism - Grass.esp=1
SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp=1
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1
ESFCompanions.esp=1
Equipping Overhaul.esp=1
AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp=1
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1
BSHeartland - Meshes.esp=1
BSHeartland - Textures.esp=1
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1
TrueDragonblood-DragonboornV001.esp=1
TrueDragonblood-DawnguardV001.esp=1
ShoutCD.esp=1
imp_helm_legend.esp=1
Contractor Armor.esp=1
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp=1
RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp=1
Inconsequential NPCs.esp=1
Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp=1
Vampirelordroyal.esp=1
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp=1
moonpath_questdata.esp=1
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1
Helgen Reborn.esp=1
Cloaks - USLEEP Patch.esp=1
Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp=1
tpos_ultimate_esm.esp=1
Immersive NPC in the dark.esp=1
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1
Immersive Citizens - MTE patch.esp=1
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp=1
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1
RND_AnimalLoot.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1
obtainable.esp=1
Obtainable (Dragonborn).esp=1
Disparity.esp=1
Immersive Race Names.esp=1
Better Vampires.esp=1
BVandRoyalBloodline_Patch.esp=1
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1
UltimateDragons.esp=1
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1
RND_BSHeartland.esp=1
Frostfall.esp=1
RealShelter.esp=1
Better Claws And Gauntlets.esp=1
Better Claws And Gauntlets - Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp=1
Better Claws And Gauntlets - Immersive Armors.esp=1
Immersive Weapons.esp=1
PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp=1
Unique Uniques.esp=1
ApachiiHairStyles.esp=1
ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp=1
Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp=1
homes remodeled Breezehom.esp=1
homes remodeled Honeyside.esp=1
homes remodeled Vlindrel Hall.esp=1
homes remodeled ProudSpire Manor.esp=1
homes remodeled Hjerim.esp=1
homes remodeled Lakeview Manor.esp=1
homes remodeled Windstad Manor.esp=1
homes remodeled Heljarchen Hall.esp=1
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp=1
CWIOrdinatorPatch.esp=1
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1
CWIELnFXPatch.esp=1
ELFXEnhancer.esp=1
Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp=1
ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - ELFX Exteriors Patch.esp=1
ELFX - Weathers.esp=1
ELFX - Moonpath.esp=1
ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp=1
Bruma - Alternate Start.esp=1
RSPatch.esp=1
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1
 

Posted

You have quite a lot of mods in your load order, while it's completely unpredictable how many mods you can handle at once, generally I find anything over 100-150 is pushing it, I would say disable a few of the mods you've got generally things you've got multiple of you could disable some of the remodled houses, as I assume you'll only really use one in a playthrough, you've also got multiple grass replacers and other things, limit it to just one.

Posted

yeah skyrim can get pretty random about when and why it crashes, generally a good checklist to do is, limit animations/fnis mods, then try and optimise load order with LOOT and merging esps then remove esps :)

Posted

I am starting to wonder if it's my nexus... I am getting an error that's not letting me update it.

"The following updates failed:
Nexus Mod Manager Updater: Could not get version information from the update server."

Posted
16 hours ago, snagglepup said:

You have quite a lot of mods in your load order, while it's completely unpredictable how many mods you can handle at once, generally I find anything over 100-150 is pushing it, I would say disable a few of the mods you've got generally things you've got multiple of you could disable some of the remodled houses, as I assume you'll only really use one in a playthrough, you've also got multiple grass replacers and other things, limit it to just one.

Just keep starting at Riverwood and trying to get to began over and over while turning some mods off

14 hours ago, genryuokami91 said:

I am starting to wonder if it's my nexus... I am getting an error that's not letting me update it.

"The following updates failed:
Nexus Mod Manager Updater: Could not get version information from the update server."

See this is why I don't use NMM and I use Wrye instead, Nexus MM has problems

Posted
15 hours ago, genryuokami91 said:

I am starting to wonder if it's my nexus... I am getting an error that's not letting me update it.

"The following updates failed:
Nexus Mod Manager Updater: Could not get version information from the update server."

No, it's not Nexus.

I was looking through your load order. Can you please point out your skeleton for me? I must admit that I can't find it. If you have XPMSE by Groovtama (and I would hope that you do) you can turn the esp off most of the time. However, dual sheath redux is an exception and you MUST have the esp activated to use that mod.

Posted

It occurred to me that I should tell you about the Nexus Update stuff also. Don't ask me why but the NEXUS Mod Manager updates are on Github now. When you try to update from Nexus you will get the message that you have already received. While there is a way to do it directly I go to the LL Skyrim/Technocal Support thread kept up by ElfPrince. As of this writing it is the first thread listed. I check on that from time to time and he notifies us of updates for NMM and Vortex complete with links.

I thought this might be useful as well as letting you know why I am confident that NMM was not your problem.

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GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1
BSAssets.esm=1
BSHeartland.esm=1
arnima.esm=1
BS_DLC_patch.esp=1
Campfire.esm=1
moonpath.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1
ApachiiHairMales.esm=1
HighResTexturePack01.esp=1
HighResTexturePack02.esp=1
HighResTexturePack03.esp=1
Cutting Room Floor.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
tpos_ultimate_esm.esp=1
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1
ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp=1
DigitigradeKhajiit+ArgonianRaptor.esp=1
dd-no spinning death animation.esp=1
immediatedragons.esp=1
lpsleep.esp=1
noautoqueststart_thievesguild_reg.esp=1
pwc-permanent werewolf.esp=1
flanseyesforskrim.esp=1
ftmusicmod.esp=1
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
AOS.esp=1
ApachiiHairStyles.esp=1
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1
ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1
EmptyHousesAbandoned.esp=1
RealShelter.esp=1
Helgen Reborn.esp=1
ESFCompanions.esp=1
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1
CWIELnFXPatch.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - ELFX Exteriors Patch.esp=1
ELFX - Weathers.esp=1
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
Convenient Bridges.esp=1
LPBards.esp=1
SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1
Cloaks.esp=1
fallentreebridges.esp=1
NoRespawnHouses.esp=1
ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp=1
moonpath_questdata.esp=1
Immersive Horses.esp=1
Craftable Horse Barding.esp=1
Obtainable (Dragonborn).esp=1
imp_helm_legend.esp=1
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1
Better Vampires.esp=1
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1
Frostfall.esp=1
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1
TimingIsEverything.esp=1
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp=1
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1
Cloaks - USLEEP Patch.esp=1
GiveADogAHome.esp=1
Vampirelordroyal.esp=1
Map Markers Complete.esp=1
ktxcompleteskyforge.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch.esp=1
Equipping Overhaul.esp=1
ae_animation_eng.esp=1
SFO - Dragonborn.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
CuttingRoomFloorRemoveAltArmorEffect.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
TailArmors.esp=1
ArmoredCircletsQuickFox.esp=1
ArmoredCircletsDawnguard&Dragonborn.esp=1
FNIS.esp=1
Burning Skies.esp=1
DiverseDragonsCollection3.esp=1
Immersive Horses - Hearthfire Patch.esp=1
chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp=1
UltimateCombat.esp=1
Dogs Into Huskies.esp=1
mintylightningmod.esp=1
Supreme Storms.esp=1
Supreme Fog.esp=1
Extra Werewolf Perks.esp=1
Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
Beards.esp=1
PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp=1
PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp=1
AOS2_SupremeStorms Patch.esp=1
ClavicusArgonianMasque.esp=1
SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp=1
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1
AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp=1
obtainable.esp=1
Immersive Weapons.esp=1
StewardUniforms.esp=1
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1
BSHeartland - Meshes.esp=1
BSHeartland - Textures.esp=1
TrueDragonblood-DragonboornV001.esp=1
TrueDragonblood-DawnguardV001.esp=1
ShoutCD.esp=1
Contractor Armor.esp=1
Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp=1
Immersive NPC in the dark.esp=1
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1
RND_AnimalLoot.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1
Disparity.esp=1
Immersive Race Names.esp=1
BVandRoyalBloodline_Patch.esp=1
UltimateDragons.esp=1
RND_BSHeartland.esp=1
PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp=1
Unique Uniques.esp=1
ELFX - Moonpath.esp=1
Grass Field.esp=1
Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1
CWIOrdinatorPatch.esp=1
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp=1
RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp=1
Immersive Citizens - MTE patch.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp=1
Bruma - Alternate Start.esp=1
ELFXEnhancer.esp=1
Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp=1
RSPatch.esp=1
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1

 

Well, this is my new mod list order... I have removed mod after mod after mod.... still nothing. Also to answer your question, I use  XP32 Maximum Skeleton Animations, by XP32... what're the differences between that one I am using and Groovtama's?

Posted

well you have a massive load order there with a few mods that will stress papyrus a lot.

 

+ do you use the basics  to support such a load order, like:

- ENboost (to free skyrim usable RAM) => if you use an ENB already you might know about it

- Crashfixes (for a higher possible papyrus string count) => super important if you have a lot of mods that torture papyrus (Burma is super heavy i heard so this might help)

- modified skyrim ini (for memory block usage) => helps a looooot even if you dont use any other stability modifications

 

+ check if you have the right patches choosen in FNIS and check for errors

 

+ best to use XPMSE skeleton! => last update 15 August 2018

guess you grabbed XP32 because of the link on the dual sheet redux/eqip overhaul page => grab XPMSE, much newer

(if you install XPMSE you wont need dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1 anymore)

 

+ you forgot to install sexlab ?

 

+ there are a lot of mods that might conflict or need patches or their load order is important, maybe try to reduce some and see if your game gets more stable

=> best way to do that is to use only one of every kind of mod (weather, combat, light, replacer, NPC overhauls, sound, and so on (armor/equipment mods dont matter))

 

+ reload your game at least once after initial load in LAL (best restart the game and reload after restart), so you can be sure your mods got loaded right before you leave LAL

 

+ i am sure something isnt right with your ELFX setup => there should be an AOS/ELFX patch somewhere, because of ELFX weathers and aos sound

(wasnt there a lot of patch choices during ELFX install? cant remember)

and check if ELFX weather+ AOS + supreme storms can go together like that

check if laterns of skyrim and ELFX can go together like that

 

+ USLEEP patch needs to be right below all Skyrim DLCs

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1

 

+ there is a high resolution patch like USLEEP for

HighResTexturePack01.esp=1
HighResTexturePack02.esp=1
HighResTexturePack03.esp=1

on nexus too

 

+ if you use skyrim immersive creatures best not to set spawn times to low, check for more patches

it helps too to deactivate Ore Golem spawn and Water Spawns (at least on my setup the Ore Golem produced CTD, there is a patch out there for water spawns tho (because they can produce CTD too))

 

+ are you sure those can go below LAL?

normaly LOOT puts those there, but sometimes this can cause already grafic bugs in LAL, those should be above LAL

ELFXEnhancer.esp=1
Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp=1

 

+ there is a patch for RND/USLEEP to, not sure if you use 1.0 or 2.0 => 1.0 has a modified USKP patch on nexus

if you dont need RND for other mods you might want to try iNeed

 

+ for RDO is an USLEEP patch around too

Posted

I'd have to get the other two AOS for the patch to work right... however, that could explain a few things be it I've never had to two mods together before. I also reorganized my mod list order, I will try it out and see what happens.

Posted

As donttouchmethere say, probably you have a stability problem, but you must verify it.

 

You have Alternate Start and is easy start a NEW GAME in any big city like Riften, Solitude, Whiterun... forget exteriors for now, first look if your game work good in interior cells and city cells.

If you have CTD in any city and whitout exit the city probably you need the stability tools.

If you have CTD ONLY in a exact city can be for a mod that modify the city.

If you NOT have CTD inside any city but get CTD when you go exteriors can be a problem with mod's:

Can be a mod that generate animals, npc's or/and mobs.

Can be a mod that change terrains, ilumunation, shadows...

Can be a mod that change body, armors or weapons for npc's

 

The first rule that you must follow is ALWAYS START A NEW GAME when you want locate a CTD problem.

The game store a lot of things in the savegame and you can have a lot of aditional strange problems if you load a game with faulting mods.

 

The first tool that you must install and run is BethIni for manage your ini files.

Is know that a bad configuration in the ini files of the game can cause CTD and total freezee.

Start BethIni and select ENB Mode and Recomended Tweaks, press High and Save&Exit.

Start your game and look if have CTD. If persist install the stability tools.

 

For get the stability tools, simple google a bit and install it if you not have it:

SKSE Memory patch

Crash Fixes 12

ENB in Boost Mode

Load Game CTD fix

 

The SKSE Memory patch is only a ini file but you NEED it if have any mod that use SKSE

Crash Fixes 12 is one if the best tools, control a lot of problems in the game and alert you.

ENB is strictly necesary, have two parts, one is the memory manager and the other is graphics enhancer.

YOU NEED at least the memory manager from ENB.

Is recomended use Boost Mode when have CTD because can be caused for a bad configuration of ENB.

Load Game CTD fix is only for solve problems when load game and you not need it now, but better have it.

 

If BethIni + tools not solve your CTD you have a mod problem SURE.

Start disabling mods ultil locate the problematic mod.

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Spoiler
8 hours ago, genryuokami91 said:

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1
BSAssets.esm=1
BSHeartland.esm=1
arnima.esm=1
BS_DLC_patch.esp=1
Campfire.esm=1
moonpath.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1
ApachiiHairMales.esm=1
HighResTexturePack01.esp=1
HighResTexturePack02.esp=1
HighResTexturePack03.esp=1
Cutting Room Floor.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
tpos_ultimate_esm.esp=1
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1
ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp=1
DigitigradeKhajiit+ArgonianRaptor.esp=1
dd-no spinning death animation.esp=1
immediatedragons.esp=1
lpsleep.esp=1
noautoqueststart_thievesguild_reg.esp=1
pwc-permanent werewolf.esp=1
flanseyesforskrim.esp=1
ftmusicmod.esp=1
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
AOS.esp=1
ApachiiHairStyles.esp=1
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1
ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1
EmptyHousesAbandoned.esp=1
RealShelter.esp=1
Helgen Reborn.esp=1
ESFCompanions.esp=1
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1
CWIELnFXPatch.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - ELFX Exteriors Patch.esp=1
ELFX - Weathers.esp=1
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
Convenient Bridges.esp=1
LPBards.esp=1
SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1
Cloaks.esp=1
fallentreebridges.esp=1
NoRespawnHouses.esp=1
ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp=1
moonpath_questdata.esp=1
Immersive Horses.esp=1
Craftable Horse Barding.esp=1
Obtainable (Dragonborn).esp=1
imp_helm_legend.esp=1
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1
Better Vampires.esp=1
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1
Frostfall.esp=1
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1
TimingIsEverything.esp=1
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp=1
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1
Cloaks - USLEEP Patch.esp=1
GiveADogAHome.esp=1
Vampirelordroyal.esp=1
Map Markers Complete.esp=1
ktxcompleteskyforge.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch.esp=1
Equipping Overhaul.esp=1
ae_animation_eng.esp=1
SFO - Dragonborn.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
CuttingRoomFloorRemoveAltArmorEffect.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
TailArmors.esp=1
ArmoredCircletsQuickFox.esp=1
ArmoredCircletsDawnguard&Dragonborn.esp=1
FNIS.esp=1
Burning Skies.esp=1
DiverseDragonsCollection3.esp=1
Immersive Horses - Hearthfire Patch.esp=1
chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp=1
UltimateCombat.esp=1
Dogs Into Huskies.esp=1
mintylightningmod.esp=1
Supreme Storms.esp=1
Supreme Fog.esp=1
Extra Werewolf Perks.esp=1
Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
Beards.esp=1
PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp=1
PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp=1
AOS2_SupremeStorms Patch.esp=1
ClavicusArgonianMasque.esp=1
SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp=1
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1
AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp=1
obtainable.esp=1
Immersive Weapons.esp=1
StewardUniforms.esp=1
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1
BSHeartland - Meshes.esp=1
BSHeartland - Textures.esp=1
TrueDragonblood-DragonboornV001.esp=1
TrueDragonblood-DawnguardV001.esp=1
ShoutCD.esp=1
Contractor Armor.esp=1
Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp=1
Immersive NPC in the dark.esp=1
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1
RND_AnimalLoot.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1
Disparity.esp=1
Immersive Race Names.esp=1
BVandRoyalBloodline_Patch.esp=1
UltimateDragons.esp=1
RND_BSHeartland.esp=1
PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp=1
Unique Uniques.esp=1
ELFX - Moonpath.esp=1
Grass Field.esp=1
Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1
CWIOrdinatorPatch.esp=1
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp=1
RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp=1
Immersive Citizens - MTE patch.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp=1
Bruma - Alternate Start.esp=1
ELFXEnhancer.esp=1
Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp=1
RSPatch.esp=1
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1

 

Well, this is my new mod list order... I have removed mod after mod after mod.... still nothing. Also to answer your question, I use  XP32 Maximum Skeleton Animations, by XP32... what're the differences between that one I am using and Groovtama's?

 

For your purposes the XPMSE skeleton has an esp that supports Dual Sheath Redux and your skeleton does not. Others can wax poetic about the other advantages but in your case it's just what you need in order to move forward.

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For your purposes the XPMSE skeleton has an esp that supports Dual Sheath Redux and your skeleton does not. Others can wax poetic about the other advantages but in your case it's just what you need in order to move forward.

TRUE... forgot say it in my post...

 

YOU NEED the last version of XPMSE by Groovtama.

XPMSE must overwrite all and none mod can overwrite XPMSE

Is another know cause of CTD.

 

90% of players use the HTD skeleton of 115 bones. Run Fnis and look at the start of the log.

Must say: Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)   male: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)

 

90% of players not need the ESP of XPMSE but in your case YOU NEED IT because you use Dual Sheath Redux

For get the ESP un-install the skeleton and re-install it with the correct options and patchs.

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