xyzxyz Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 Hi, I have a save where sometimes bandits and vampire thralls spawn without clothes or armor. They have weapons and behave like normal enemies, but they are nude. I have never seen something like that since I play skyrim. I didn't remove or replace any bandit armor with other mods. Why are they nude and how can I fix that? It is annoying for me.
yatol Posted June 29, 2018 Posted June 29, 2018 as if npc become broken without reason in cell x, there is actor y, that is npc encbanditradius500, or something else that npc have template leveledlist lvlbanditnord in that leveledlist, there's encbanditN01, encbanditN02, encbanditN03.... game pick encbanditN06, that have template encbanditmele, where there's encbanditmele01, 02, 03... game pick encbanditmele06, that have have template encbandit00 it's more or less something like that some npc are nude because the game couldn't find the template of that npc if npc use inventory from template, there's no reason to give gear to that npc there's no reason to edit stats of npc that use stats from template, some overhauls do useless edits and that happen when you remove mods that edit that stuff you use obis? go near a bandit camp and save reload that save without obis, and check the result
xyzxyz Posted June 29, 2018 Author Posted June 29, 2018 10 hours ago, yatol said: as if npc become broken without reason in cell x, there is actor y, that is npc encbanditradius500, or something else that npc have template leveledlist lvlbanditnord in that leveledlist, there's encbanditN01, encbanditN02, encbanditN03.... game pick encbanditN06, that have template encbanditmele, where there's encbanditmele01, 02, 03... game pick encbanditmele06, that have have template encbandit00 it's more or less something like that some npc are nude because the game couldn't find the template of that npc if npc use inventory from template, there's no reason to give gear to that npc there's no reason to edit stats of npc that use stats from template, some overhauls do useless edits and that happen when you remove mods that edit that stuff you use obis? go near a bandit camp and save reload that save without obis, and check the result I didn't remove any armor mod. The bandits should wear fur or iron armor because the player is only lvl 9. And no, I don't use OBIS. 11 hours ago, Uncle64 said: Sounds like one loadorder issue. How can I fix that? Just run Loot and pray?^^
Uncle64 Posted June 29, 2018 Posted June 29, 2018 LOOT and pray is one option, but why dont you post your loadorder and if you are using MO also post your left side. As Yatol also say, the game dont find right stuff, because the game points on wrong things, can be easy to fix if you have not removed any mods. Did you at any point add mods?
xyzxyz Posted June 29, 2018 Author Posted June 29, 2018 20 minutes ago, Uncle64 said: LOOT and pray is one option, but why dont you post your loadorder and if you are using MO also post your left side. As Yatol also say, the game dont find right stuff, because the game points on wrong things, can be easy to fix if you have not removed any mods. Did you at any point add mods? I can't remember adding mods, because I wanted a bug and crash free save this time ^^ I can post my loadorder sunday evening or so.
yatol Posted June 29, 2018 Posted June 29, 2018 3 hours ago, xyzxyz said: I didn't remove any armor mod. The bandits should wear fur or iron armor because the player is only lvl 9. And no, I don't use OBIS. How can I fix that? Just run Loot and pray?^^ nothing to do with armor mod... your npc is nude because encnpcpackage have no outfit and the game can't find its template and obis is just an exemple, sic also edit leveled lists, high level ennemies, and others
xyzxyz Posted June 29, 2018 Author Posted June 29, 2018 50 minutes ago, yatol said: nothing to do with armor mod... your npc is nude because encnpcpackage have no outfit and the game can't find its template and obis is just an exemple, sic also edit leveled lists, high level ennemies, and others But how can the game loose a template? Or is it at the wrong location?
Uncle64 Posted June 29, 2018 Posted June 29, 2018 Did have the same issue for some time ago when all guards in Solitude was nude. Annoying, but 2 plugins and 2 mods in wrong order in MO. Did take some time to find it. So your loadorder may help us helping you.
xyzxyz Posted June 29, 2018 Author Posted June 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Uncle64 said: Did have the same issue for some time ago when all guards in Solitude was nude. Annoying, but 2 plugins and 2 mods in wrong order in MO. Did take some time to find it. So your loadorder may help us helping you. You will see it, just not now. Because I'm about 200km away from my gaming PC ^^ I should be able to upload it sunday evening.
xyzxyz Posted July 1, 2018 Author Posted July 1, 2018 On 6/29/2018 at 11:01 PM, Uncle64 said: . On 6/29/2018 at 6:00 PM, yatol said: . Here you go. I know I have to update the PAHE mods but that shouldn't cause the problem. 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 AOM.esm 7 7 SkyMoMod.esm 8 8 BBLuxurySuite.esm 9 9 SexLab.esm 10 a SexLabAroused.esm 11 b Devious Devices - Assets.esm 12 c Devious Devices - Integration.esm 13 d Inn Girls Resources.esm 14 e ZaZAnimationPack.esm 15 f Gray Fox Cowl.esm 16 10 daymoyl.esm 17 11 hdtHighHeel.esm 18 12 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 19 13 UndergroundBathhouse.esm 20 14 ApachiiHair.esm 21 15 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 22 16 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 23 17 paradise_halls.esm 24 18 CreatureFramework.esm 25 19 lordship.esp 26 1a Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 27 1b Immersive Jewelry.esp 28 1c MoreBanditCamps(Original-Edition).esp 29 1d Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 30 1e SSv2.esp 31 1f xazPrisonOverhaul.esp 32 20 xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp 33 21 Dragon Born Castle.esp 34 22 caliente's beautiful bodies edition.esp 35 23 ts_erocktheme.esp 36 24 viking warsword.esp 37 25 ragnarsword.esp 38 26 ensiferumbattlemusicbattlesong.esp 39 27 Immersive Weapons.esp Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp 40 28 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 41 29 old-draugr-new-tricks.esp 42 2a SexLab_DibellaCult.esp 43 2b Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp 44 2c SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 45 2d SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 46 2e sutvaka2.esp 47 2f Forgotten Dungeons.esp 48 30 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 49 31 TBOS.esp analtmerintrigue-hf.esp 50 32 more dragons.esp 51 33 Gatti12Jewelry.esp 52 34 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 53 35 AsharaImperialOutfit.esp 54 36 HearthfireMultiKid.esp 55 37 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 56 38 SkyUI.esp 57 39 MoreSlaves.esp GM-CookingRebalanceFinal.esp 58 3a SexFinderAndMapMarker.esp 59 3b SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp 60 3c AOM.esp 61 3d Cloaks.esp 62 3e Run For Your Lives.esp 63 3f Slaverun_Reloaded.esp 64 40 Dovahkiins_Infamy.esp BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp 65 41 FyrManor_BASE.esp 66 42 DeviousTraps.esp buildablehouse.esp 67 43 PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp 68 44 MoonstoneCastle.esp 69 45 vikinghouse.esp 70 46 GR123 Knights Templar.esp 71 47 SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp 72 48 mihaillegion.esp 73 49 markartharena.esp 74 4a SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 75 4b morehunting.esp 76 4c SexLabSexBounty.esp 77 4d BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp 78 4e Roman armor and weapons replacer.esp 79 4f Immersive Wenches.esp 80 50 RewardYourFollowers.esp 81 51 PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp 82 52 quest_pitfighter.esp 83 53 AyleidSanctuary.esp 84 54 BBLSVisitors.esp 85 55 diversified conjuration.esp 86 56 Space Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.esp 87 57 northman race.esp 88 58 artillery_dfa.esp 89 59 FyrManor_DAWNGUARD.esp falkreath lookout.esp 90 5a OvIbrewing.esp beschuetzer von himmelsrand.esp 91 5b draugraxe.esp 92 5c SpousesEnhanced.esp 93 5d mihailrottenmaidens.esp 94 5e Wildhunt_Manor.esp 95 5f FyrManor_HEARTHFIRE.esp 96 60 mihailmmasithis.esp 97 61 SlaversHideout.esp 98 62 BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp 99 63 moresmeltables.esp 100 64 SexLab Eager NPCs.esp 101 65 dr_bandolier.esp 102 66 BBLSspouse.esp 103 67 paula_follower.esp 104 68 sandboxcylinderheight.esp 105 69 NorseMaille.esp 106 6a LoversComfort.esp 107 6b Roman armor and weapons.esp 108 6c JolgeirrBarrow.esp 109 6d Lets Tie You Up.esp DD FtM - Cloaks patch.esp display-model.esp 110 6e DeviouslyHelpless.esp 111 6f Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 112 70 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 113 71 RaceMenu.esp 114 72 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 115 73 SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp 116 74 zSLSDNeophytes.esp 117 75 TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp 118 76 romanweapons.esp 119 77 FNISspells.esp 120 78 DD - Interactions.esp 121 79 zzEstrus.esp 122 7a EstrusChaurus.esp 123 7b UIExtensions.esp 124 7c Greek_Armor.esp 125 7d SLPleasure.esp 126 7e MoreRevelers.esp 127 7f SLAnimLoader.esp 128 80 SLALAnimObj.esp 129 81 DrunkenSluts.esp 130 82 ub_cell_darkarea.esp 131 83 ub_adoption_hearthfire_extention.esp 132 84 ub_tapestry.esp 133 85 ub_invite_any_npc.esp 134 86 EstrusSpider.esp 135 87 Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_v2.1.esp 136 88 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 137 89 dD Enchanted Chests.esp 138 8a Kylie.esp 139 8b GGFriendlyWhore.esp 140 8c SlaveTats.esp 141 8d SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp 142 8e Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp 143 8f theeyesofbeauty.esp 144 90 TW3Weaponry.esp 145 91 aSexyMod.esp 146 92 mihaildruidbackpack.esp 147 93 FNIS.esp 148 94 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 149 95 HentaiCreatures.esp 150 96 SexLabDefeat.esp 151 97 BBLSmusic.esp 152 98 SLAL_K4Anims.esp 153 99 XPMSE.esp 154 9a Crossbows_Basic_Collection_DE_LL.esp 155 9b zzMaidOutfits.esp 156 9c Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 157 9d ccas_starts.esp 158 9e paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp 159 9f paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp 160 a0 mihailvampirebeasts.esp 161 a1 mihaildracolizards.esp 162 a2 Daedric Entity Restoration Project.esp 163 a3 mihailoldgod.esp 164 a4 mihailhealingorb.esp 165 a5 MoreNastyCritters.esp 166 a6 BDIC.esp
Grey Cloud Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 Could you not find any more mods which add content to the game?
xyzxyz Posted July 1, 2018 Author Posted July 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: Could you not find any more mods which add content to the game? There are lots of big story mods out there on sl or nexus^^ What is the problem? That is my complete load list.
Uncle64 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 Na that is not that many mods, but his loadorder is not that good at all. My load is way bigger, and stable. But as always in Skyrim, all small errors in your load can create big and serius issues. This plugin is one part of one obsolete mod called MNC v9 that you truly need to update to the latest. 148 94 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp You also have its plugins loaded in wrong order. You have instructions how you update it here at LL at the modd page. Do you have the tool Wrye bash installed? If not, download it and run it and finetune your load after you have updated More Nasty Critters. This should load as one of the first masters. And works best if you load before SL. 24 18 CreatureFramework.esm And also this master comes from MNC v9 so this is also obsolete and have one new version you need to change to. Information at the same page. Found here. Creature Framwork here http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1622-creature-framework/
xyzxyz Posted July 1, 2018 Author Posted July 1, 2018 48 minutes ago, Uncle64 said: This plugin is one part of one obsolete mod called MNC v9 that you truly need to update to the latest. 148 94 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp You also have its plugins loaded in wrong order. It not the newest version, I know. It works fine with the older version 11_1G so far. How should the load order look like? 48 minutes ago, Uncle64 said: Do you have the tool Wrye bash installed? No, I don't use it. What does this tool do? I have no problems with MNC, just the nude enemy problem. Found anything usefull about that?
Uncle64 Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 No it dont work fine whit that version at all since it is not needed anymore, obsolete replaced by other mods. All small issues in your load can create all sorts of odd issues in the game. You should consider to start to use Wrye Bash then, since you need one LVL list and you dont have that.
xyzxyz Posted July 2, 2018 Author Posted July 2, 2018 I updatet some mods and run LOOT: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 AOM.esm 7 7 SkyMoMod.esm 8 8 BBLuxurySuite.esm 9 9 SexLab.esm 10 a SexLabAroused.esm 11 b Devious Devices - Assets.esm 12 c Devious Devices - Integration.esm 13 d Inn Girls Resources.esm 14 e ZaZAnimationPack.esm 15 f Gray Fox Cowl.esm 16 10 daymoyl.esm 17 11 hdtHighHeel.esm 18 12 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 19 13 UndergroundBathhouse.esm 20 14 ApachiiHair.esm 21 15 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 22 16 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 23 17 paradise_halls.esm 24 18 CreatureFramework.esm 25 19 lordship.esp 26 1a Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 27 1b Immersive Jewelry.esp 28 1c MoreBanditCamps(Original-Edition).esp 29 1d Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 30 1e SSv2.esp 31 1f xazPrisonOverhaul.esp 32 20 xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp 33 21 Dragon Born Castle.esp 34 22 caliente's beautiful bodies edition.esp 35 23 ts_erocktheme.esp 36 24 viking warsword.esp 37 25 ragnarsword.esp 38 26 ensiferumbattlemusicbattlesong.esp 39 27 Immersive Weapons.esp Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp 40 28 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 41 29 old-draugr-new-tricks.esp 42 2a SexLab_DibellaCult.esp 43 2b Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp 44 2c SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 45 2d SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 46 2e sutvaka2.esp 47 2f Forgotten Dungeons.esp 48 30 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 49 31 TBOS.esp analtmerintrigue-hf.esp 50 32 more dragons.esp 51 33 Gatti12Jewelry.esp 52 34 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 53 35 AsharaImperialOutfit.esp 54 36 HearthfireMultiKid.esp 55 37 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 56 38 SkyUI.esp 57 39 MoreSlaves.esp GM-CookingRebalanceFinal.esp 58 3a SexFinderAndMapMarker.esp 59 3b SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp 60 3c AOM.esp 61 3d Cloaks.esp 62 3e Run For Your Lives.esp 63 3f Slaverun_Reloaded.esp 64 40 Dovahkiins_Infamy.esp BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp 65 41 FyrManor_BASE.esp 66 42 DeviousTraps.esp buildablehouse.esp 67 43 MoonstoneCastle.esp 68 44 vikinghouse.esp 69 45 GR123 Knights Templar.esp 70 46 SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp 71 47 mihaillegion.esp 72 48 markartharena.esp 73 49 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 74 4a morehunting.esp 75 4b SexLabSexBounty.esp 76 4c BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp 77 4d Roman armor and weapons replacer.esp 78 4e Immersive Wenches.esp 79 4f RewardYourFollowers.esp 80 50 quest_pitfighter.esp 81 51 AyleidSanctuary.esp 82 52 BBLSVisitors.esp 83 53 diversified conjuration.esp 84 54 Space Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.esp 85 55 northman race.esp 86 56 artillery_dfa.esp 87 57 FyrManor_DAWNGUARD.esp falkreath lookout.esp 88 58 OvIbrewing.esp beschuetzer von himmelsrand.esp 89 59 draugraxe.esp 90 5a SpousesEnhanced.esp 91 5b mihailrottenmaidens.esp 92 5c Wildhunt_Manor.esp 93 5d FyrManor_HEARTHFIRE.esp 94 5e mihailmmasithis.esp 95 5f SlaversHideout.esp 96 60 BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp 97 61 moresmeltables.esp 98 62 SexLab Eager NPCs.esp 99 63 dr_bandolier.esp 100 64 BBLSspouse.esp 101 65 paula_follower.esp 102 66 sandboxcylinderheight.esp 103 67 NorseMaille.esp 104 68 LoversComfort.esp 105 69 Roman armor and weapons.esp 106 6a JolgeirrBarrow.esp 107 6b Lets Tie You Up.esp DD FtM - Cloaks patch.esp display-model.esp 108 6c DeviouslyHelpless.esp 109 6d Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 110 6e SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 111 6f RaceMenu.esp 112 70 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 113 71 SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp 114 72 TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp 115 73 romanweapons.esp 116 74 FNISspells.esp 117 75 DD - Interactions.esp 118 76 zzEstrus.esp 119 77 EstrusChaurus.esp 120 78 UIExtensions.esp 121 79 Greek_Armor.esp 122 7a SLPleasure.esp 123 7b MoreRevelers.esp 124 7c SLAnimLoader.esp 125 7d SLALAnimObj.esp 126 7e DrunkenSluts.esp 127 7f ub_cell_darkarea.esp 128 80 ub_adoption_hearthfire_extention.esp 129 81 ub_tapestry.esp 130 82 ub_invite_any_npc.esp 131 83 EstrusSpider.esp 132 84 Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_v2.1.esp 133 85 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 134 86 dD Enchanted Chests.esp 135 87 Kylie.esp 136 88 GGFriendlyWhore.esp 137 89 SlaveTats.esp 138 8a SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp 139 8b Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp 140 8c theeyesofbeauty.esp 141 8d TW3Weaponry.esp 142 8e aSexyMod.esp 143 8f mihaildruidbackpack.esp 144 90 FNIS.esp 145 91 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 146 92 HentaiCreatures.esp 147 93 SexLabDefeat.esp 148 94 BBLSmusic.esp 149 95 SLAL_K4Anims.esp 150 96 XPMSE.esp 151 97 Crossbows_Basic_Collection_DE_LL.esp 152 98 zzMaidOutfits.esp 153 99 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 154 9a ccas_starts.esp 155 9b paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp 156 9c paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp 157 9d mihailvampirebeasts.esp 158 9e mihaildracolizards.esp 159 9f Daedric Entity Restoration Project.esp 160 a0 mihailoldgod.esp 161 a1 mihailhealingorb.esp 162 a2 zSLSDNeophytes.esp 163 a3 PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp 164 a4 MoreNastyCritters.esp 165 a5 BDIC.esp 166 a6 PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp
xyzxyz Posted July 2, 2018 Author Posted July 2, 2018 10 hours ago, Uncle64 said: You should consider to start to use Wrye Bash then, since you need one LVL list and you dont have that. I use nmm so Wrye Bash wouldn't help me.
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