wsgthebg Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 Hi, can you help me. I can't add new SLAL mods. Whenever I add new animation mod, I run FNIS, no problem, then Loot, no problem and then Skyrim crashes on the start of loading, even on a new game. I have no problem adding other mods that use FNIS, only SLAL packs. Load order: Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp 2 2 Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp 3 3 HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp 6 6 ApachiiHair.esm 7 7 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 8 8 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 9 9 hdtHighHeel.esm 10 a CreatureFramework.esm 11 b Campfire.esm 12 c SexLab.esm 13 d SexLabAroused.esm 14 e Devious Devices - Assets.esm 15 f Devious Devices - Integration.esm 16 10 TaraUltimateFurniturePack.esm 17 11 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 18 12 daymoyl.esm 19 13 RSkyrimChildren.esm 20 14 EFFCore.esm 21 15 Amputator.esm 22 16 PubicMeshColorRE.esm 23 17 Heretical Resources.esm 24 18 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 25 19 ZazExtensionPack.esm 26 1a ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 27 1b UnlimitedBookshelves.esp 28 1c SkyRe_Main.esp 29 1d Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 30 1e Helgen Reborn.esp 31 1f Immersive Weapons.esp 32 20 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp 33 21 SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp 34 22 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 35 23 TradeRoutes.esp 36 24 Shout Like a Virgin.esp 37 25 xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp 38 26 Namiras Decorations.esp 39 27 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 40 28 SexLab_Solutions.esp 41 29 zThingsInDark.esp 42 2a Captured Dreams.esp 43 2b HDT Havok Object.esp FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp FtM_3 - OBIS.esp 44 2c FtM_3.esp FtM_3 - CCOR.esp 45 2d Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 46 2e SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 47 2f SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 48 30 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 49 31 wolfclub.esp 50 32 BFT Ships and Carriages.esp 51 33 SkyUI.esp BetterQuestObjectives.esp 52 34 sanguinesDebauchery.esp 53 35 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 54 36 Cloaks.esp 55 37 SMIM-Merged-All.esp 56 38 Tentapalooza.esp 57 39 EFFDialogue.esp 58 3a RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp 59 3b Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 60 3c sr_FillHerUp.esp 61 3d MoreNastyCritters.esp DeadlyMutilation.esp 62 3e AchieveThat.esp 63 3f Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 64 40 vAutosaveManager.esp 65 41 Beards.esp 66 42 Blacksmithforge water fix DG.esp 67 43 Blacksmithforge water fix HF.esp 68 44 BlitzConsoleCommandsMCM.esp 69 45 retakrew7_chest.esp 70 46 fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp 71 47 Footprints.esp 72 48 backpackfrankdema.esp 73 49 FreckleMania.esp 74 4a HelmetToggle2.02b.esp 75 4b Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 76 4c iHUD.esp 77 4d LootLater.esp 78 4e Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp 79 4f AHZmoreHUD.esp 80 50 nordicrangerarmor.esp 81 51 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp 82 52 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp 83 53 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-7.esp 84 54 RSChildren - Complete.esp RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp 85 55 SabreFurBag.esp 86 56 SIDT - Complete.esp 87 57 Smoking Candles.esp 88 58 SkyRe_Survivalism.esp 89 59 TakeNotes.esp 90 5a TradeRoutes-SkyRe-Patch.esp 91 5b WetandCold.esp 92 5c WetandCold - Ashes.esp 93 5d 1nivWICCloaks.esp 94 5e 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp 95 5f RaceMenu.esp 96 60 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 97 61 WondersofWeather.esp BetterQuestObjectives-SkyRePatch.esp 98 62 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 99 63 Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp 100 64 Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp 101 65 EK_RingLimiter.esp 102 66 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 103 67 XPMSE.esp 104 68 SOSRaceMenu.esp 105 69 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 106 6a Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp 107 6b Remodeled Armor.esp 108 6c Remodeled Armor - Dawnguard.esp 109 6d Remodeled Armor - Dragonborn.esp 110 6e Tembtra Thief Armor.esp 111 6f WildHuntress.esp 112 70 AncientDraugr.esp 113 71 VioLens.esp 114 72 SexLabMatchMaker.esp 115 73 TradeRoutes-RNaD-Patch.esp 116 74 SLAnimLoader.esp 117 75 SLALAnimObj.esp 118 76 SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp 119 77 SexLabSquirtR.esp 120 78 sexlab_WearAndTear.esp RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp RND_USKP-Patch.esp 121 79 SexLabDefeat.esp 122 7a mslDeviousCaptures.esp 123 7b Simple Slavery Defeat.esp 124 7c DW.esp 125 7d SlaveTats.esp 126 7e DibellanDefender.esp 127 7f KS Hairdo's.esp 128 80 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp 129 81 Tentapalooza Bathing in Skyrim Patch.esp 130 82 Bijin Warmaidens.esp 131 83 TavernGames.esp 132 84 GoToBed.esp 133 85 GoToBed - Hearthfire coffins fix.esp 134 86 RND_GoToBed-Patch.esp 135 87 SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp 136 88 SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp 137 89 KomAnimObjects.esp 138 8a Toccata as Elisif.esp 139 8b TCoW Improvement.esp 140 8c gitgud greaves.esp 141 8d gitgud greaves (dawnguard).esp 142 8e gitgud greaves (dragonborn).esp 143 8f NusbieVoices.esp 144 90 ZazResources.esp 145 91 Bijin Wives.esp 146 92 LindsMarksmageGarb.esp 147 93 LindsSpellslinger.esp 148 94 LindsWoodlandAlchemist.esp 149 95 Apropos.esp 150 96 SexLab Inflation Framework.esp 151 97 ExtraPocket.esp 152 98 SimpleMasochism.esp 153 99 SimpleSTD.esp 154 9a UIExtensions.esp 155 9b AddItemMenu.esp 156 9c Anal Torch.esp 157 9d KS Hairdos - HDT.esp 158 9e NPC Body Scale Randomizer.esp 159 9f SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp 160 a0 SexLabStatsManipulator.esp 161 a1 Blush When Aroused.esp 162 a2 Blush When Aroused CE.esp 163 a3 WetFunction.esp 164 a4 SLAL_K4Anims.esp 165 a5 SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 166 a6 FNIS.esp 167 a7 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 168 a8 FadeTattoos.esp 169 a9 RapeTattoos.esp 170 aa SOS - ERF Equipable Horse Penis.esp 171 ab SOS - ERF Horse Penis Addon.esp 172 ac SOS - Leito Addon.esp 173 ad mcgDwarvenDeviousCuirass.esp 174 ae pchsImmersivePlugs.esp 175 af DD_Helpers.esp 176 b0 NaySanPiercing.esp 177 b1 SexLab Cumshot.esp 178 b2 SLAdv_GoldWeight.esp 179 b3 SLAdventures.esp 180 b4 zzEstrus.esp 181 b5 EstrusChaurus.esp 182 b6 TyqraXivilaiFollower.esp 183 b7 AliciaPainSlut.esp 184 b8 SimplyKnock.esp 185 b9 SL Survival.esp 186 ba TradeBarter.esp 187 bb Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 188 bc buildablehouse.esp 189 bd SimpleSlavery.esp 190 be Hunterborn.esp 191 bf BosmerArmorMATY743.esp Hunterborn_CACO_Patch.esp 192 c0 Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp 193 c1 sr_FillThemUp.esp 194 c2 Frostfall.esp 195 c3 BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp 196 c4 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 197 c5 SexLab-Parasites.esp 198 c6 SexLab_Dialogues.esp 199 c7 zdd.esp 200 c8 Place2Sleep.esp Chesko_Frostfall.esp RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp 201 c9 Morning Fogs.esp 202 ca KNM_AcalyphaFollower.esp 203 cb TimingIsEverything.esp 204 cc S_L_U_T_S.esp 205 cd SOS - Shop.esp 206 ce Blacksmithforge water fix DB.esp 207 cf SpousesEnhanced.esp 208 d0 Blacksmithforge water fix Vanilla.esp 209 d1 DSpSoB.esp 210 d2 MF_RadiantProstitution.esp 211 d3 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 212 d4 beginner's shack.esp 213 d5 ArtOfTheCatch.esp 214 d6 SlaveTrainer.esp 215 d7 Namira'sGoat.esp 216 d8 Namiras Skyrim - bodyparts.esp 217 d9 Dr_Bandolier.esp 218 da LPBards.esp 219 db FNISspells.esp 220 dc BlockSparkles.esp 221 dd Remove Your.esp 222 de FMEA Skyrim.esp 223 df DragonboneBarbarianArmor.esp 224 e0 BorderSense.esp 225 e1 LinguistPack.esp 226 e2 Merta Black Rose Armor.esp 227 e3 Emfy Cleric Robes.esp 228 e4 Ursine Armor Pack.esp 229 e5 Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp 230 e6 Bathing in Skyrim - Hunterborn.esp Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp Hunterborn_BlacksmithChest_Patch.esp 231 e7 Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp Hunterborn_LanternsAndCandles-Patch.esp Hunterborn_Requiem-Patch.esp Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp 232 e8 RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp 233 e9 pchs_loansharks.esp KnapsackEnhanced.esp 234 ea PeeAndFart.esp 235 eb RewardYourFollowers.esp 236 ec dcc-dm2.esp 237 ed Bijin NPCs.esp 238 ee Jennifer.esp 239 ef RailLight.esp 240 f0 yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp 241 f1 HentaiCreatures.esp 242 f2 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp 243 f3 BeautifulCorpse.esp 244 f4 HDT Piercingsets.esp 245 f5 SkyRe_SimplyKnock.esp 246 f6 SexLab Warmbodies.esp 247 f7 SLSO.esp 248 f8 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp 249 f9 ImmerSlave.esp 250 fa Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp 251 fb ReProccer.esp
Pfiffy Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 To many animations... There are limits outside of FNIS.... You reached the critical point, where only a few anims more are just too much.
SirDuke Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Pfiffy said: To many animations... There are limits outside of FNIS.... You reached the critical point, where only a few anims more are just too much. If that´s true; Try FNIS XXL takes more time, but handles more animations But my first idea was a missing esm master file. Most of the crashes on loading are caused by that. Do you have TES5Edit installed? It can easily tell you, if some master file is missing.
wsgthebg Posted June 7, 2018 Author Posted June 7, 2018 I already use FNIS XXL. What other limits do talk about, I know only about FNIS limit and SexLab limit. I am within the first one and the second one should not matter until I try to register animation to SexLab. I have downloaded TESEdit, but I have no idea how to use it.
Andy14 Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, wsgthebg said: even on a new game What happens if you enter "coc qasmoke" with the console in the main menu? If then CTD, skeleton problem or REALLY script-heavy mods. And Heavy is in this case - badly programmed. My suggestion: disable mods that are NOT REALLY important. Test with "coc qasmoke" until the cell is loaded without CTD. Many mods = many calculations at runtime. Sometimes it is wiser to activate mods step by step - depending on mod.
Pfiffy Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, wsgthebg said: I already use FNIS XXL. What other limits do talk about, I know only about FNIS limit and SexLab limit. I am within the first one and the second one should not matter until I try to register animation to SexLab. I have downloaded TESEdit, but I have no idea how to use it. there are two things, that you have to know: 1. If you take a look at the messages in FNIS if you register anims, you will find all actually registered animations, but there are also alternative anims, that are not in the anim count, but also use anim slots. Note 1 anim with 2 actors and 5 stages are 10 slots... Usually new anim packs add 10-20 anims so it is at least 10*2*5 = 100 slots that you add to the list. With your modlist, you are close to the limit, if the bucket is full, you need to take something old out before you put something new into it. 2. The number of anims that your system can handle does not only depened on the actually installed anims but also on the mods you have installed. The more a mod adds to the game, the less additional anims you can use along with it. You can reach 20000 Anims with just a basic install, but every mod that needs to store data in the save 'steels' you some anims. And you have some monsters in your load order that reduce the possible anim count drastically.
onesumgame Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 2 hours ago, wsgthebg said: I have downloaded TESEdit, but I have no idea how to use it. Launch Tes5edit an click OK on the small window that pops up showing all your mods selected. It will notify you if you are missing a master file, which is usually what causes the game to crash right before the main menu loads. If Tes5edit does not show any message about a missing master file then perhaps double check that the SLAL packs you installed are for the correct edition of Skyrim. I have no idea if installing SLAL packs for Special Edition would cause Legendary Edition to crash, but I can't think of anything else right now that could cause the problem.
Pfiffy Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 Just now, onesumgame said: Launch Tes5edit an click OK on the small window that pops up showing all your mods selected. It will notify you if you are missing a master file, which is usually what causes the game to crash right before the main menu loads. If Tes5edit does not show any message about a missing master file then perhaps double check that the SLAL packs you installed are for the correct edition of Skyrim. I have no idea if installing SLAL packs for Special Edition would cause Legendary Edition to crash, but I can't think of anything else right now that could cause the problem. Fnis with compatibility check will give you an error, With out it you will end up in a T-Pose. (It seems like I can't repeat it often enough, always run fnis with compatibility check enabled.) If masters are missing, Skyrim will also crash, no matter if a new SLAL pack gets installed or not. You can follow this discussion in nearly every anim thread and it comes up every time one of the bigger pack gets updated... You can check your system again and again and will only find the errors that have been there before you install additional anims. If it crashes on load, after installing an anim pack, you crossed the limits of your configuration. Kick out other anims or reduce the number of mods in your load order. And the new pack will install fine. But kicking out mod in a running game might cause other problems, so removing anims is much easier and saver. Give it a try...
Grey Cloud Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 You have USLEEP installed so get rid of the individual patches. Get the latest MNC and you can get rid of the 3 Nude Creatures esps. Remove Realistic Ragdolls, the XMPSE skeleton has it. Personally, I'd get rid of SkyRe too. There are better alternatives these days. LOOT should have told you if you were missing any files. 1 hour ago, Pfiffy said: always run fnis with compatibility check enabled What compatibility check?
Pfiffy Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Grey Cloud said: You have USLEEP installed so get rid of the individual patches. Get the latest MNC and you can get rid of the 3 Nude Creatures esps. Remove Realistic Ragdolls, the XMPSE skeleton has it. Personally, I'd get rid of SkyRe too. There are better alternatives these days. LOOT should have told you if you were missing any files. What compatibility check? 3rd checkbox in the newer releases of FNIS for SE and LE. Running FNIS with this will tell you if the anims are compatible with the Skyrim version you have installed. Takes a bit longer, but its worth the time.
Grey Cloud Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 22 minutes ago, Pfiffy said: 3rd checkbox in the newer releases of FNIS for SE and LE. Running FNIS with this will tell you if the anims are compatible with the Skyrim version you have installed. Takes a bit longer, but its worth the time. I'm with you. But isn't that only for a skeleton (hkx)? I already know that XMPSE is compatible.
Pfiffy Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: I'm with you. But isn't that only for a skeleton (hkx)? I already know that XMPSE is compatible. No, that checks all anims if they are compatible to your Skyrim version. I'm playing SE, i need it for checking conversions, and it does the same job in Oldrim. I asked Fore to enable it by default, but he has reasons why he doesn't do it.
Grey Cloud Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Pfiffy said: No, that checks all anims if they are compatible to your Skyrim version. I'm playing SE, i need it for checking conversions, and it does the same job in Oldrim. I asked Fore to enable it by default, but he has reasons why he doesn't do it. From the FNIS Description page - patches. HKX File Compatibility Check Skyrim/SSE: Cross-using behavior, skeleton, and animation files between Skyrim and Skyrim SE will result in the well-known t-pose. General t-pose when behavior or skeleton files from the other Skyrim are used, animation-long t-pose in case of cross-used animations. This patch will check for such bad files. Obviously, it only makes sense to use this patch if you experience t-pose situations. And FNIS will not keep this patch ticked for more than one FNIS generation. Can't see the importance. The anim packs are clearly labelled as to LE or SE (at least those I use from this site). Worst case scenario, you load the wrong one and go in game to find t-pose. Next time you pay more attention to what you are downloading. Only time I downloaded the wrong version it was a grass mod so FNIS wouldn't have helped in any case.
radamantys158 Posted June 8, 2018 Posted June 8, 2018 I had the same problem with my game but I play Skyrim LE, this post below solve my problem.
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