Evan555alpha Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 So, I recently got around to installing Four Play, and a handful of mods that use it, such as RSE and FPE, as well as their dependencies. Thing is, now my character is now getting lipstick applied every time I load a save, even if the save has no lipstick applied at the time of saving. I don't know what's causing it to happen, whether it's a script, spell, or what, but it's driving me nuts. While it's simple enough to fix, I really don't want to have to slm every time I load up the game. Spoilered is my load order: Spoiler Fallout4.esm DLCRobot.esm DLCworkshop01.esm DLCCoast.esm DLCworkshop02.esm DLCworkshop03.esm DLCNukaWorld.esm Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp SettlementKeywords.esm Companion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.esm HUDFramework.esm TrueStormsFO4.esm SimSettlements.esm Loads.esm ConcealedArmor.esm Homemaker.esm CaN.esm Snap'n Build.esm ArmorKeywords.esm CaN Pony Mane Pack.esm four_play_resources.esm CBBE.esp Vault-Tec Historical Preservation Initiative.esp DoubleAffinityCooldown.esp TheyWantThatAss.esp SeasonWantThatAss.esp le666piercings.esp Craftable Armor Size.esp DifficultyXPScaling.esp OA_VaultTec_MaterialsContainers_FH.esp True Shadows - All DLC.esp BrighterSettlementLights_LongAndSoft.esp Idiot Slut.esp WLightSaber.esp NoChameleonFlash.esp TSW.esp CMPA +300.esp LegendaryModification.esp LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor.esp Perk Magazine Material Fix.esp OCDecorator.esp OCDecoratorDLC.esp SKE_OCD_Patch.esp BobbleGirl.esp DX Courser X-92 Power Suit.esp CROSS_CosmeticFramework.esm CROSS_Uni_Scarf.esp CROSS_Jetpack.esp CROSS_Swimsuit.esp TheKite_ScoopDigger.esp pillow3.esp ImmersiveVendors.esp More Armor Slots - Merged - AWKCR.esp Armorsmith Extended.esp Armorsmith Automatron.esp Armorsmith Far Harbor.esp Armorsmith Nuka World.esp 3in1.esp GatlingRifle.esp MaxLockWorkshopTerminals.esp ACS Master.esp ACS Paintings.esp AtomicBeauty.esp Crafting Workbench.esp Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Expanded.esp RILF.esp Green Commonwealth.esp YogaOutfit.esp Quiet.esp WWE.esp WWE_Garage.esp TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp OA_VaultTec_MaterialsContainers.esp OA_VaultTec_MaterialsContainers_NW.esp subwayrunnnerdynamiclighting.esp AA FusionCityRising.esp AA FusionCityRising - HotC.esp FQ_NoMoreLODFlicker_AIO.esp Some Assembly Required.esp OutcastsAndRemnants.esp RidableBot.esp CombatZoneOverhaul.esp North Bridge Carpentry.esp APC_Mobile_Base_v1.3.esp More Smarter Companions Mod.esp UnderwaterBaseV1.0.esp WET.esp UniqueUniques.esp FriendlyEasyCityDowns.esp AA 50 Ways To Die.esp marineleotard.esp BioshockInspiredPowerArmor.esp SDIShutters.esp NukaGirlSuitEdit.esp Driveable Motorcycle Mod.esp AkaWaterWorld.esp curvygirloutfits.esp Animated Chems.esp SnapBeds.esp TheKite_CaitSet.esp TheKite_Caitset_ReplacerAddon.esp 1daysVendorsRespawn.esp VerticalConduits.esp Smoke-able Cigars.esp CleanSoup.esp Locksmith.esp Spare Railroad as Institute.esp minutementweak.esp MaidOutfit.esp ConcealedArmor.esp slootyVaultSuit.esp AutomatronRoboHats.esp dcc-bp-lol.esp Lacy Underwear (AWKCR).esp PortalGun.esp spacefiddle_Follower-Stealth-Distance-Fixes.esp FO4Hotkeys.esp Clean Water - Tropical - ExtraRads.esp WaterPurificationProject.esp CROSS_Recall.esp Scrap Everything.esp Immersive Waiting.esp EFF.esp EFFoodPlanters - High.esp eFFoodPlanters - Extra Plants - High.esp Strong Back - Improved -- Far Harbor.esp VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp UNnaked Power Armor.esp NukaVictoryFix.esp multiplecraft.esp AnsBikinisAndSwimsuits.esp Nuka-Cola Flavors for the Commonwealth.esp See You Sleep CW editon - Beta.esp Nuka Cola Hydrates.esp xy - Jumpsuits.esp MoreRobotParts.esp EnclaveX02.esp MonnoBikini_AE.esp MoreThirstZapperAmmo.esp BazoongasWorkShop.esp DarkerNights.esp BetterNightVision.esp VirginKillerSweater.esp RaceCustomizer.esp RaceCustomizer - Far Harbor Compatibility Patch.esp PonyRaiders.esp PonySettlers.esp CaN - Player Pony.esp CaN - Companion Ponies.esp LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp CompanionTracker.esp CompetitionSwimsuit_AE.esp 2pacSkimpy.esp NoCollisionBetweenActors.esp m82a.esp ChainBikini.esp SkyrimConversions.esp Extra_Tracks_Classic.esp RaiderNeutralFaction.esp WorkshopRelay.esp WorkingTableLamps.esp Loads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.esp You've Got a Raider or Gunner in Me.esp Nuka World Bot Fixes.esp TheMobileMechanic.esp GatlingLaserAmmoFix.esp Casp_Workshop.esp SettleObjExpandPack.esp CWSS Redux.esp WeaponsHD.esp QuietVats.esp BNPA_NAVI Armor.esp PA_Materials_Paints.esp PAMAP SAR Patch.esp MODGirlyAnimation.esp PlayerComments.esp PlayerCommentsCWSSPatch.esp LooksMenu.esp TransferSettlements.esp dinoshelf.esp dinoshelf_extra_ammo.esp DavesPoses.esp Perversions.esp Dickys Pinup Outfit.esp Chrysalis' Armour.esp StripEnemiesViaCombat.esp CombatStripLite.esp KLPostersAdult.esp KLPosters.esp UsefulCrank.esp Base Automatron to Assaultron.esp Any_Terminal_at_Any_Height.esp Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp Live Action Handy - With GlowMap.esp UnleveledPerks.esp BTInteriors_Project.esp TakeCover.esp Give Me That Bottle.esp Thematic and Practical.esp Vault-Tec Workshop Overhaul.esp Ponify.esp BetterAutomatronWeapons.esp ModdableRobotSettlers.esp Moddable Plasma Caster.esp CompanionsGoHome_A.esp Companion Fall Damage Immunity.esp settlementheight9000-aio.esp four_play.esp VIO_Strap-On.esp 4PlaySEU.esp FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp FP_RSE.esp SMC.esp Any idea on what's causing it? And/or what I need to do to disable it?
VonHelton Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 8 hours ago, Evan555alpha said: So, I recently got around to installing Four Play, and a handful of mods that use it, such as RSE and FPE, as well as their dependencies. Thing is, now my character is now getting lipstick applied every time I load a save, even if the save has no lipstick applied at the time of saving. I don't know what's causing it to happen, whether it's a script, spell, or what, but it's driving me nuts. While it's simple enough to fix, I really don't want to have to slm every time I load up the game. Spoilered is my load order: Reveal hidden contents Fallout4.esm DLCRobot.esm DLCworkshop01.esm DLCCoast.esm DLCworkshop02.esm DLCworkshop03.esm DLCNukaWorld.esm Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp SettlementKeywords.esm Companion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.esm HUDFramework.esm TrueStormsFO4.esm SimSettlements.esm Loads.esm ConcealedArmor.esm Homemaker.esm CaN.esm Snap'n Build.esm ArmorKeywords.esm CaN Pony Mane Pack.esm four_play_resources.esm CBBE.esp Vault-Tec Historical Preservation Initiative.esp DoubleAffinityCooldown.esp TheyWantThatAss.esp SeasonWantThatAss.esp le666piercings.esp Craftable Armor Size.esp DifficultyXPScaling.esp OA_VaultTec_MaterialsContainers_FH.esp True Shadows - All DLC.esp BrighterSettlementLights_LongAndSoft.esp Idiot Slut.esp WLightSaber.esp NoChameleonFlash.esp TSW.esp CMPA +300.esp LegendaryModification.esp LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor.esp Perk Magazine Material Fix.esp OCDecorator.esp OCDecoratorDLC.esp SKE_OCD_Patch.esp BobbleGirl.esp DX Courser X-92 Power Suit.esp CROSS_CosmeticFramework.esm CROSS_Uni_Scarf.esp CROSS_Jetpack.esp CROSS_Swimsuit.esp TheKite_ScoopDigger.esp pillow3.esp ImmersiveVendors.esp More Armor Slots - Merged - AWKCR.esp Armorsmith Extended.esp Armorsmith Automatron.esp Armorsmith Far Harbor.esp Armorsmith Nuka World.esp 3in1.esp GatlingRifle.esp MaxLockWorkshopTerminals.esp ACS Master.esp ACS Paintings.esp AtomicBeauty.esp Crafting Workbench.esp Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Expanded.esp RILF.esp Green Commonwealth.esp YogaOutfit.esp Quiet.esp WWE.esp WWE_Garage.esp TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp OA_VaultTec_MaterialsContainers.esp OA_VaultTec_MaterialsContainers_NW.esp subwayrunnnerdynamiclighting.esp AA FusionCityRising.esp AA FusionCityRising - HotC.esp FQ_NoMoreLODFlicker_AIO.esp Some Assembly Required.esp OutcastsAndRemnants.esp RidableBot.esp CombatZoneOverhaul.esp North Bridge Carpentry.esp APC_Mobile_Base_v1.3.esp More Smarter Companions Mod.esp UnderwaterBaseV1.0.esp WET.esp UniqueUniques.esp FriendlyEasyCityDowns.esp AA 50 Ways To Die.esp marineleotard.esp BioshockInspiredPowerArmor.esp SDIShutters.esp NukaGirlSuitEdit.esp Driveable Motorcycle Mod.esp AkaWaterWorld.esp curvygirloutfits.esp Animated Chems.esp SnapBeds.esp TheKite_CaitSet.esp TheKite_Caitset_ReplacerAddon.esp 1daysVendorsRespawn.esp VerticalConduits.esp Smoke-able Cigars.esp CleanSoup.esp Locksmith.esp Spare Railroad as Institute.esp minutementweak.esp MaidOutfit.esp ConcealedArmor.esp slootyVaultSuit.esp AutomatronRoboHats.esp dcc-bp-lol.esp Lacy Underwear (AWKCR).esp PortalGun.esp spacefiddle_Follower-Stealth-Distance-Fixes.esp FO4Hotkeys.esp Clean Water - Tropical - ExtraRads.esp WaterPurificationProject.esp CROSS_Recall.esp Scrap Everything.esp Immersive Waiting.esp EFF.esp EFFoodPlanters - High.esp eFFoodPlanters - Extra Plants - High.esp Strong Back - Improved -- Far Harbor.esp VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp UNnaked Power Armor.esp NukaVictoryFix.esp multiplecraft.esp AnsBikinisAndSwimsuits.esp Nuka-Cola Flavors for the Commonwealth.esp See You Sleep CW editon - Beta.esp Nuka Cola Hydrates.esp xy - Jumpsuits.esp MoreRobotParts.esp EnclaveX02.esp MonnoBikini_AE.esp MoreThirstZapperAmmo.esp BazoongasWorkShop.esp DarkerNights.esp BetterNightVision.esp VirginKillerSweater.esp RaceCustomizer.esp RaceCustomizer - Far Harbor Compatibility Patch.esp PonyRaiders.esp PonySettlers.esp CaN - Player Pony.esp CaN - Companion Ponies.esp LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp CompanionTracker.esp CompetitionSwimsuit_AE.esp 2pacSkimpy.esp NoCollisionBetweenActors.esp m82a.esp ChainBikini.esp SkyrimConversions.esp Extra_Tracks_Classic.esp RaiderNeutralFaction.esp WorkshopRelay.esp WorkingTableLamps.esp Loads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.esp You've Got a Raider or Gunner in Me.esp Nuka World Bot Fixes.esp TheMobileMechanic.esp GatlingLaserAmmoFix.esp Casp_Workshop.esp SettleObjExpandPack.esp CWSS Redux.esp WeaponsHD.esp QuietVats.esp BNPA_NAVI Armor.esp PA_Materials_Paints.esp PAMAP SAR Patch.esp MODGirlyAnimation.esp PlayerComments.esp PlayerCommentsCWSSPatch.esp LooksMenu.esp TransferSettlements.esp dinoshelf.esp dinoshelf_extra_ammo.esp DavesPoses.esp Perversions.esp Dickys Pinup Outfit.esp Chrysalis' Armour.esp StripEnemiesViaCombat.esp CombatStripLite.esp KLPostersAdult.esp KLPosters.esp UsefulCrank.esp Base Automatron to Assaultron.esp Any_Terminal_at_Any_Height.esp Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp Live Action Handy - With GlowMap.esp UnleveledPerks.esp BTInteriors_Project.esp TakeCover.esp Give Me That Bottle.esp Thematic and Practical.esp Vault-Tec Workshop Overhaul.esp Ponify.esp BetterAutomatronWeapons.esp ModdableRobotSettlers.esp Moddable Plasma Caster.esp CompanionsGoHome_A.esp Companion Fall Damage Immunity.esp settlementheight9000-aio.esp four_play.esp VIO_Strap-On.esp 4PlaySEU.esp FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.esp FP_RSE.esp SMC.esp Any idea on what's causing it? And/or what I need to do to disable it? Did you look for strange tint masks in your folder?
Evan555alpha Posted April 20, 2018 Author Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, VonHelton said: Did you look for strange tint masks in your folder? Strange being? There's plenty of various makeup masks in "Data\Textures\Character\CharacterAssets\TintMasks" and "...\FaceDetails", of which the entire latter folder seems to be related to non-lipstick makeup. There is only three files in "...\TintMasks" and all three have been there for ages, as I extracted them from the vanilla archives ages ago. I'm not sure how a tinktmask on its own would be able to do what is essentially opening the looksmenu on my character, adding the red lipstick, and then confirming changes.
Evan555alpha Posted April 21, 2018 Author Posted April 21, 2018 Welp, I don't know if this is what actually fixed it, or if there was something else that I've forgotten I've done, or what. I was trying to fix some of the log spam from the "Player Comments" mod, and in doing so, discovered that the outdated loose script files I had were causing it, so I promptly removed them. The saves created between doing that and now don't seem to be afflicted with this lipstick bug any more. Though I get the feeling I'll be editing this post soon enough. Edit: Yep, of course, I forgot I also installed the FP Community F4SE Plugin. More than likely that that fixed it, not the PC scripts. Turns out I had missed the part in the install guides for 4P pointing to that, so I never installed it. Flashy's Tutorial is what told me to install it.
Carreau Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Sometimes it’s just an issue with the skins and overlays. Like randomly, I’ll get the brown face bug. I end up saving and reinstalling the face textures from valkyr and it clears it up. I don’t use any other face mod, it just randomly occurs. And reinstalling my face texture always clears it up. It happened again last night part way through vault 81.
Invictusblade Posted April 22, 2018 Posted April 22, 2018 5 hours ago, Carreau said: Sometimes it’s just an issue with the skins and overlays. Like randomly, I’ll get the brown face bug. I end up saving and reinstalling the face textures from valkyr and it clears it up. I don’t use any other face mod, it just randomly occurs. And reinstalling my face texture always clears it up. It happened again last night part way through vault 81. i think this mod fixes that https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/31028
guk Posted April 22, 2018 Posted April 22, 2018 This is a bug with either the base game, or LooksMenu. You have to select something under "Lip Color", otherwise the game will always select the default option every time. It's somewhere under Markings, Blemishes or Damage. The fix is to use the Custom Color option in LooksMenu - first select a default color, apply and leave the menu with "accept". Then enter it again and make it either very transparent, or select a visible color you prefer. You can also test this by removing the Lip Color entirely, save the preset and load it again. Perhaps the actual "Lipstick" is also affected by the bug, same solution to make it transparent.
Evan555alpha Posted April 23, 2018 Author Posted April 23, 2018 10 hours ago, guk said: -snip- Well no, From my experience, it seems to have been a bug with my then 4P installation, as I had missed installing something. This bug came about after I had installed 4P and a handful of other mods to go with it, and only wen't away after I installed the missing F4SE Community Patch. But what it could have been doesn't matter now, as it doesn't happen any more.
guk Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 This is the lip color / lipstick bug i'm talking about, reproducible steps: 1) load the game 2) "remove all" under "extras" 3) save the preset 4) load the preset again - lipstick and lip color are back 5) and if you check the "extras", you can see that the game picked the default options for both I don't use any mods like Fourplay, and this bug has always been in the game as long as i can remember. Perhaps this could also be intended by Bethesda, because the vanilla lips look terrible without tints on top.
Evan555alpha Posted April 23, 2018 Author Posted April 23, 2018 4 hours ago, guk said: -snip- A completely different bug to what I had; my problem was as though someone had used the "slm" command on my character, and applied lipstick with the colour red chosen. Nothing was necessarily out of the ordinary with the lipstick tint itself, it was just that the makeup portion of it was being applied and re-applied to my character, presumably on game load. The fix for it was literally just un-applying the lipstick within the looks menu. Between that, and with how it only came about after I installed 4P, this is why I was lead to believe that it was a script or a spell that was causing it, rather than some form of bug that would be inexplicable.
guk Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 One of my other presets has this with red lipstick too; though if you want to believe that some magical voodoo script is causing this then you can do that as well ;-)
Evan555alpha Posted April 23, 2018 Author Posted April 23, 2018 1 minute ago, guk said: One of my other presets has this with red lipstick too; though if you want to believe that some magical voodoo script is causing this then you can do that as well ;-) But my presets load just fine, and I was actually loading the preset to undo the changes? You said yourself that you "Don't use any mods like Fourplay", so if you wanna be a fucking wanker about what I thought the cause was, go ahead. Again, it doesn't fucking matter now. It's been solved because I did a thing that I didn't do beforehand. The cause is irrelevant.
guk Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 Well perhaps it really are 2 entirely different bugs with the same / similar result. Like one bug causes the player to have a brown face on game reload, while the other looks exactly the same on NPCs but happens randomly while playing and is fixed by reloading instead. But i think you also know of the "placebo" and "hypochondriac" effects, when you un/install a mod and you get the impression that it causes/fixes something completely unrelated. Hence my comment ;-)
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