DzOnIxD Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 I have been on this forum for a long time, and I have watched the development cycle for dozens of mods. I understand that making stable mods that offer a lot of features is damn hard, but I don't understand why there aren't many smaller mods with a specific function. I'm not trying to say mods like CD are bad, I think that they are a masterpiece and they have a lot of labor put into them to make them what they are now. But I have a problem where I for example want the heel function from Immersive Fashion, but I don't want the hair scripts and the shop. Extra functions are never bad right? Well installing all these AAA mods for specific functions makes the game way more unstable. Yes you can disable most of the features in MCM, but you can't always disable everything you don't use. The second issue is when different mods handle the same thing. I want to run for example Defeat, SD+ and Cursed Loot. I want Defeat to handle combat encounters, SD+ enslavement and quests, and Cursed Loot for random wilderness encounters when my character is naked or unarmed. I have tried running these mods together with settings tweaked, but my game still crashes or everything becomes buggy after some time. The point of this wasn't to call anyone out or to spit on peoples work. The mods I mentioned are absolutely amazing and I have used them all at some point in time. I just want to hear other peoples opinions on this topic and maybe some tips about modding.
Guest Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 I run sd+ and defeat and death alt, allowing death alt to hand the "bleedout stage" and my game runs for hours without CTD, 154 mods I think is the count I am at, but it took a lot of adjusting different things to get it all to run together. I have not tried Cursed Loot yet, not sure what its purpose is, open a chest, get a blind fold? I choose not to go that root, I am sure the mod is great, all I can suggest, is if you are running multiple mods that handle the bleed out, then let DA handle it! if you do not use DA then let defeat handle the bleedout. My own personal preference is Death Alt thou, because it handles SD+ and Defeat for you As far as Immersive fashion, I have never tried it
DzOnIxD Posted February 27, 2018 Author Posted February 27, 2018 2 hours ago, cadensreturn said: I run sd+ and defeat and death alt, allowing death alt to hand the "bleedout stage" and my game runs for hours without CTD, 154 mods I think is the count I am at, but it took a lot of adjusting different things to get it all to run together. I have not tried Cursed Loot yet, not sure what its purpose is, open a chest, get a blind fold? I choose not to go that root, I am sure the mod is great, all I can suggest, is if you are running multiple mods that handle the bleed out, then let DA handle it! if you do not use DA then let defeat handle the bleedout. My own personal preference is Death Alt thou, because it handles SD+ and Defeat for you As far as Immersive fashion, I have never tried it I always thought running SD+ and Defeat together is some kind of sorcery. I set it up that they don't handle same things and the game still crashes or glitches. I usually need to disable almost everything in both mods to make them work together.
Guest Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 No, I have been running them together for about 6 months now, and letting Death Alt control them both, one thing that I do, is I use defeat clean up often, after a rape or I have been raped..it only takes seconds and I probably do it to much, if you decide to Give defeat a try as well let me know and sometime tomorrow I can post the settings I have been using, or screen shots, I just have to much work to finish up tonight before I go home
SmedleyDButler Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 I hear you. Things like the Divine Elegance shop or Sneak Tools or Requiem add some things I'm interested in but comes bundled with a ton of stuff I don't need or want and which (more importantly) conflicts with other mods I want to use, or is old and buggy. There's definitely a strong argument for keeping mods straightforward and elegant.
DzOnIxD Posted February 28, 2018 Author Posted February 28, 2018 16 hours ago, cadensreturn said: No, I have been running them together for about 6 months now, and letting Death Alt control them both, one thing that I do, is I use defeat clean up often, after a rape or I have been raped..it only takes seconds and I probably do it to much, if you decide to Give defeat a try as well let me know and sometime tomorrow I can post the settings I have been using, or screen shots, I just have to much work to finish up tonight before I go home I never used Defeat's clean up, so I will definitely try that. I would appreciate if you could share your settings with me, when you have the time of course.
Guest Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 2 hours ago, DzOnIxD said: I never used Defeat's clean up, so I will definitely try that. I would appreciate if you could share your settings with me, when you have the time of course. To start this is my load order, if you noticed XPMSE.ESP=0, that means I have the skeleton installed, but I only use the skeleton for the HDT and body, I do not use it for anything else, (do not disable unless your sure you do not need it for anything else) . The reason I so this to that esp, is that it all but eliminated the SKSE save bloating, after 70 hours of game play, my SKSE save is still at 138 kb, but that has nothing to do with running defeat and sd, just a friendly tip LoadOrder_Skyrim_2018-02-28T11-24-35.txt
Guest Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 These are the settings that count in the 3 mods, I put them in a zip, the rest of the settings are for personal preference, notice the one screenshot for DA utilities, that is not settings, that is if DA gets stuck, the utilities will fix it, but it does not get stuck often, for me anyways My Settings.7z
Lostdreamer Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 2:39 PM, DzOnIxD said: SD+ enslavement and quests Much like several others, I havn't had much luck getting SD to work in a big build - I've always ended up having to pull it out due to stability problems. I was mostly interested in the 'free me' dialog tree rather than other elements. There are plenty of good enslavement mods out there tho - DCL does it fairly well, and I'm currently experimenting with Devious Followers to great effect. Your mileage may/will vary, but that is what worked for me. Defeat and DCL certainly co-exist quite happily.
DzOnIxD Posted March 1, 2018 Author Posted March 1, 2018 21 hours ago, cadensreturn said: These are the settings that count in the 3 mods, I put them in a zip, the rest of the settings are for personal preference, notice the one screenshot for DA utilities, that is not settings, that is if DA gets stuck, the utilities will fix it, but it does not get stuck often, for me anyways My Settings.7z Thank you very much, I will try this.
DzOnIxD Posted March 1, 2018 Author Posted March 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Lostdreamer said: Much like several others, I havn't had much luck getting SD to work in a big build - I've always ended up having to pull it out due to stability problems. I was mostly interested in the 'free me' dialog tree rather than other elements. There are plenty of good enslavement mods out there tho - DCL does it fairly well, and I'm currently experimenting with Devious Followers to great effect. Your mileage may/will vary, but that is what worked for me. Defeat and DCL certainly co-exist quite happily. Well I can manage to get Defeat and DCL, but I want SD+ for the Sanguine character. The enslavement sounds fun though, but I either escape really easily or end up enslaved forever. I am probably too greedy with these mods. I want specific things from each of them.
Guest Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, DzOnIxD said: Well I can manage to get Defeat and DCL, but I want SD+ for the Sanguine character. The enslavement sounds fun though, but I either escape really easily or end up enslaved forever. I am probably too greedy with these mods. I want specific things from each of them. haha I hear ya there, after we started talking in this thread , I downloaded DCL and gave it a shot, its a great mod, great work on the mod, the MCM was done crazy good, but I play as a male character, and a lot of the mods, if I want to play them, I alter myself in CK to fit a male character, I might do it to DCL for myself, and if I do I will check with the mod author and see if I could send him/her the file for their page, thing is finding the time to do it , I am testing out DCL with SD+ , Defeat and Da this weekend to see if I have any issues, will let you know..and FYI just reading up on a recently release mod that looks really promising..https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5183-sexlab-adventures/
Taskmaster Posted March 2, 2018 Posted March 2, 2018 xEdit is a savior for trimming down the possible feature bloat on mods, as well as identifying them, and other things in mods that may go outside of their descriptions or scope.
Guest Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 On 3/1/2018 at 9:09 PM, Taskmaster said: xEdit is a savior for trimming down the possible feature bloat on mods, as well as identifying them, and other things in mods that may go outside of their descriptions or scope. Thanks, I will check that out
Guest Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 Just a heads up, the link i posted above for sexlab Adventure's.....amazing mod, it just replaced 3 other mods for me, and runs flawlessly
swmas Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, cadensreturn said: Just a heads up, the link i posted above for sexlab Adventure's.....amazing mod, it just replaced 3 other mods for me, and runs flawlessly What three other mods one is Dangerous nights, the other two? I gotta say your post made me take an interest in that mod.
Guest Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 2 hours ago, swmas said: What three other mods one is Dangerous nights, the other two? I gotta say your post made me take an interest in that mod. I remove 4 actually, now that I think about it, devious cursed loot, dangerous nights 2, horrible harrasment, and sex crime..the mod is great, especially when the rapist chase after you, and you can escape them, surrender, or get caught by ...everthing can be customized in the mcm it all links to other optional mods as well EDIT also if you have a follower and the rapist catch you they can force you to have sex with your follower while they watch
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