Skyrim Chain Beasts

[MTB]

On 5/17/2022 at 7:20 PM, tenshikan99 said:

How can i replace Zaz gag and cuff with DD when character captured  ? i'm trying to figure it out but i'm a little bit stuck in here

 

SCB tries to `play nice' wrt to DD devices, but it does not use them.

 

If you mean you want to create a plugin that adds that, just changing the look to DD might work if you replace the mesh of the SCB_Collar,Mask,Wrist/AnkleRestraints AA(Armor Addon) (+silver/rust/gold variants) forms by that of your chosen DD replacement.  (overriding the items in SkyrimChainBeasts.esm).

If you want them to actually be/behave like DD devices, that would require many changes (DD has its own way of managing devices, which is quite different from the SCB mechanisms).

 

Edited May 18, 2022 by MTB

[MTB]

On 5/16/2022 at 5:46 AM, Toedy said:

I installed version 0.57 for LE. At first it seemed to run fine. When I activated the mine outside Whiterun, the MPB would blink in and out of existence. Once it captured someone near the mine, they could not mount it and eventually would end up in a crawler with the MPB no longer being there. Once the crawler released them, the MPB would return and if it captured someone away from the mine, the victim would mount as normal. After a couple of rounds of this, I went back to 0.56 LE..

 

Thanks for the report. The beasts will disappear shortly on a takedown. A bit longer on a full capture. As the MPB can easily generate many takesdowns especially in a crowd that is the cause of the first thing you describe. I'm working on ideas to streamline that and minimize the time they are gone for.

 

If mounting fails for a certain amount of time, a fallback to using a crawler will trigger.  Once arriving the original beast will return.  However, if that happens every time something has broken (I've encountered that in the past on experimental profiles, but usually combined with other problems like NPCs not activating things at all/not properly running their packages, etc. I usually ended throwing out those profiles and starting fresh so I'm not sure what the cause could be/whether there is a way of fixing it.)  

 

 

[Toedy]

I reinstalled 0.57 LE and reduced my other (problematic) mod load. I have noticed in 0.57 LE that non-target NPC's will have their health healed to 100% after they come out of the chainbeast hit/bite scene ( I have the cowering effect turned off). I have also noticed the gear chests for NPC's following them around with each new hit by a chainbeast. The original box fades and a new on appears. Not sure if it happens to the players and/or followers chests or not. This event may only occur with player summoned chainbeasts. Also, are the gear chests supposed to start out as chain mudcrabs? If not, they are ( which could explain them moving).

 

 

 

Edited May 18, 2022 by Toedy
Correction; Forgot to indicate the version, LE.

[Calcium1]

The chain dragon isn’t working for me. It will capture but then my character just stands there and the dragon disappears and reappears randomly. After a while I’m put in a regular crawler. What’s going on here?

 

[Clessith]

Has anyone else run into a problem with the Chain Beast Boxes?  Once my items are stolen it steals all my gold.  all my gold is present in the box before it teleports and gone after it teleports.?

 

[MTB]

 

22 hours ago, Toedy said:

I reinstalled 0.57 LE and reduced my other (problematic) mod load. I have noticed in 0.57 LE that non-target NPC's will have their health healed to 100% after they come out of the chainbeast hit/bite scene ( I have the cowering effect turned off). I have also noticed the gear chests for NPC's following them around with each new hit by a chainbeast. The original box fades and a new on appears. Not sure if it happens to the players and/or followers chests or not. This event may only occur with player summoned chainbeasts. Also, are the gear chests supposed to start out as chain mudcrabs? If not, they are ( which could explain them moving).

 

Yes each take down of a player/NPC for which stripping is enabled, a stripper crab appears to confiscate the gear.

It caries the box on its back, so that will be at the last place the player/NPC was stripped  (rather than the first in previous versions).   (The player may have multiple boxes if captured after freeing themselves but before gathering their gear.)

 

I remember adding a minor healing effect somewhere - I think with the spiders to reduce the risk their pull effect kills NPCs. Also they should get a good dose of stamina, just like the player, but fully healed on take down?  I'll have to do some testing though not sure I can easily reproduce the conditions.

Is a large amount of health added (the beasts don't cause much health damage to being with).

(I've not tested much with the effect turned off, but that should only affect the animation.)

 

 

19 hours ago, Calcium1 said:

The chain dragon isn’t working for me. It will capture but then my character just stands there and the dragon disappears and reappears randomly. After a while I’m put in a regular crawler. What’s going on here?

They're not ready. The chain dragon is an incomplete (so far mostly failed) experiment.  Current mounting procedure does not work for them (well almost never-one in  blue moon it actually works...), they fly off even when their set to not allowed to fly, etc.   (This is why they're not used anywhere outside the testing spells.)

 

 

 

13 hours ago, Clessith said:

Has anyone else run into a problem with the Chain Beast Boxes?  Once my items are stolen it steals all my gold.  all my gold is present in the box before it teleports and gone after it teleports.?

So the gold is no longer there after multiple captures happen?  Can't say I've noticed that happening but I'll do some testing.  What box settings are you using?

btw the chain beasts prefer to term `confiscated' over stolen

 

 

Edited May 19, 2022 by MTB
typo correction

[Toedy]

41 minutes ago, MTB said:

I remember adding a minor healing effect somewhere - I think with the spiders to reduce the risk their pull effect kills NPCs. Also they should get a good dose of stamina, just like the player, but fully healed on take down?  I'll have to do some testing though not sure I can easily reproduce the conditions.

Is a large amount of health added (the beasts don't cause much health damage to being with).

(I've not tested much with the effect turned off, but that should only affect the animation.)

 

While the chainbeasts do not cause much damage, any damage done by myself or my followers is negated by the healing effect. The healing effect is being added to non-spider chainbeasts so this may be where it is causing issues. The amount of health is drastic. From 20% remaining to full health. 

Edited May 19, 2022 by Toedy
Forgot last sentence.

[MTB]

On 5/19/2022 at 8:26 PM, Toedy said:

 

While the chainbeasts do not cause much damage, any damage done by myself or my followers is negated by the healing effect. The healing effect is being added to non-spider chainbeasts so this may be where it is causing issues. The amount of health is drastic. From 20% remaining to full health. 

 

I've done some testing; while there are some small healing effects, nothing that drastic in the mod itself; however, the mod does take the NPC out of combat.  At that point the NPC may start recovering health - rather quickly. Eg a nord would recover 7% of their health per second. Meaning that 20 to full would take just over 10 seconds.

I've tried to prevent this healing while the `fear' effect is active, but in my testing it seems that health gen damage effects are completely ignored by NPCs, at least out side of combat...

 

On 5/19/2022 at 6:36 AM, Clessith said:

Has anyone else run into a problem with the Chain Beast Boxes?  Once my items are stolen it steals all my gold.  all my gold is present in the box before it teleports and gone after it teleports.?

 

Done some testing but unable to reproduce this.  Only things I can think of is that the box was set to be unlocked and some criminal absconded with the gold, or perhaps your looking in another box-there may be multiple player boxes. 

If its the former; the new box opening option I've created for the next version might prevent that. 

 

 

[a10g06]

On 5/19/2022 at 8:36 AM, Clessith said:

Has anyone else run into a problem with the Chain Beast Boxes?  Once my items are stolen it steals all my gold.  all my gold is present in the box before it teleports and gone after it teleports.?

 

 

got the same problem...

Once i'm captured, i can retrieve my stuff but my gold and lockpicks are gone.

 

On 5/20/2022 at 11:18 PM, MTB said:

 

Done some testing but unable to reproduce this.  Only things I can think of is that the box was set to be unlocked and some criminal absconded with the gold, or perhaps your looking in another box-there may be multiple player boxes. 

If its the former; the new box opening option I've created for the next version might prevent that. 

 

 

 

Tested it with one and more created boxes, money and lockpicks are gone.

[thelordofroses]

So i have the latest version for SE and confirmed that the file sizes and Dates match properly and that there is no V4 involved anywhere however be it a loaded game or a brand new clean game the MCM menu for the chainbeasts is empty. logo shows up fine but all menus contain nothing. any idea how to solve that i haven't already checked / tried from previous posts?

[MTB]

On 5/22/2022 at 10:38 PM, thelordofroses said:

So i have the latest version for SE and confirmed that the file sizes and Dates match properly and that there is no V4 involved anywhere however be it a loaded game or a brand new clean game the MCM menu for the chainbeasts is empty. logo shows up fine but all menus contain nothing. any idea how to solve that i haven't already checked / tried from previous posts?

 

Make sure you're also not using an old plugin like the old sluts one, that might override settings and cause an issue like this...

 

One easy test that you can do is to remove the skyrimchainbeasts_english.txt  (or what ever language your using) from data\interface\translations

Do the menu names change to $SCB_Gameplay  $SCB_Skip etc. ?

- If so the properties on the quest are setup correctly and we have to check the script SCB_MCM.pex ; is there perhaps an old version of this floating around in the MO2 override folder or some such.

- If not the properties on the quest are not setup correctly; we have to make sure we are using the correct skyrimchainbeast.esm and nothing is overriding it.

  If the later ; try disabling all SCB plugins, only having the esm activated and see if the menu contents now show up (on a new game).

    if so; add plugins again one at a time to find the culprit.

 

[MTB]

On 5/22/2022 at 6:49 PM, a10g06 said:

got the same problem...

Once i'm captured, i can retrieve my stuff but my gold and lockpicks are gone.

 

Could you provide more information;   version (I expect 0.5.7 but SE or LE),  every time or only sometime,  what are your box settings (default or changed?) what SCB plugins are active,  If you have logging active are there any SCB related error in the log (search for SCB in the documents/my games/skyrim/logs/script/Papyrus.x.log  (x=1 for last session, 2 for previous etc.)

 

[DayTri]

In the "main" quest (beauty and the chain beast) there are only four objective markers, but I need to destroy five mines. There are 3 in Riverwood, 1 in ratway. Where is the last?

[frhghz]

When I installed this mod (ver 0.5.8) I got a message update only from 0.5.1, althought I never used the earlier versions, I also have no mcm ?

[MTB]

7 hours ago, DayTri said:

In the "main" quest (beauty and the chain beast) there are only four objective markers, but I need to destroy five mines. There are 3 in Riverwood, 1 in ratway. Where is the last?

 

Consider what part is not covered by the Skyrim map...

Spoiler

... you have the dragon born plugin...

 

Edited May 29, 2022 by MTB

[MTB]

1 hour ago, frhghz said:

When I installed this mod (ver 0.5.8) I got a message update only from 0.5.1, althought I never used the earlier versions, I also have no mcm ?

 

Did you install v057 first and then v058 over top (merge if using MO2) as 058 is just an update not the full mod.

 

If so I'll need more info; version (SE/LE), which plugins active,  no MCM = none at all or just empty submenus, did you test on new game or existing save, anything else you can think of that might be related ... ?

 

 

[frhghz]

52 minutes ago, MTB said:

 

Did you install v057 first and then v058 over top (merge if using MO2) as 058 is just an update not the full mod.

 

If so I'll need more info; version (SE/LE), which plugins active,  no MCM = none at all or just empty submenus, did you test on new game or existing save, anything else you can think of that might be related ... ?

 

 

First installed 0.5.7, then 0.5.8

I'm using LE; only chainbeast MCM was missing

Loadorder

Spoiler

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
hdtHighHeel.esm=1
Heels Sound.esm=1
SGHairPackBase.esm=1
SexLab.esm=1
EB-Races.esm=1
CreatureFramework.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1
Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1
ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1
SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm=1
Amputator.esm=1
Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm=1
SkyUI.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
UIExtensions.esp=1
FNIS.esp=1
FNISSexyMove.esp=1
XPMSE.esp=1
SOSRaceMenu.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp=1
KS Hairdos - HDT.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp=1
Remodeled Armor.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Dawnguard.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Dragonborn.esp=1
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp=1
RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp=1
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1
SGHairPackAIO.esp=1
ExtraPocket.esp=1
DarkStandalone.esp=1
Daedric Chainmail CBBE.esp=1
SlaveTats.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp=1
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp=1
HDT Piercingsets.esp=1
sr_FillHerUp.esp=1
EroSeleneArmor.esp=1
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp=1
SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp=1
Tainted_Blood.esp=1
LaFemmeLycana.esp=1
MoreNastyCritters.esp=1
HentaiCreatures.esp=1
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1
SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp=1
SLAnimLoader.esp=1
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1
SexLabDefeat.esp=1
SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp=1
BastHelm.esp=1
ZaitamasAncientShroudedArmor.esp=1
SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp=1
mcgDwarvenDeviousCuirass.esp=1
Zipsuit.esp=1
Spriggan Armor 2.esp=1
dcc-dm2.esp=1
SimpleSlavery.esp=1
SLAL_AnimObj_Nymra.esp=1
Devious Rubber Masks Rebirth.esp=1
SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp=1
SLDragons.esp=1
Devious Rubber Ponies Rebirth.esp=1
SexLabMatchMaker.esp=1
Sayaka_Suit.esp=1
Rubber_Resources.esp=1
KS Hairdo's.esp=1
Devious Devices For Him.esp=1
Devious Devices - BRRF.esp=1
[Predator] Latex Condom Suit.esp=1
DeviousFollowers.esp=1
S_L_U_T_S.esp=1
SLSF_FameComments_DogWhore.esp=1
SLSFFameComments.esp=1
PsycheAnimationObjects.esp=1
zzEstrus.esp=0
EstrusChaurus.esp=1
troublesofheroineHF.esp=1
troublesofheroineDB.esp=1
troublesofheroineDG.esp=1
SexLab-Parasites.esp=1
troublesofheroine.esp=1
pchsImmersivePlugs.esp=1
SLSW Addicted.esp=1
submissivelola_est.esp=1

here were the chain beast ones, atm deinstalled
 

 

 

[a10g06]

On 5/26/2022 at 3:01 PM, MTB said:

 

Could you provide more information;   version (I expect 0.5.7 but SE or LE),  every time or only sometime,  what are your box settings (default or changed?) what SCB plugins are active,  If you have logging active are there any SCB related error in the log (search for SCB in the documents/my games/skyrim/logs/script/Papyrus.x.log  (x=1 for last session, 2 for previous etc.)

 

When i wrote you, I had version 0.5.7 SE

I installed your patch later but still have the same problem.

 

Most settings are default, only changed the with lock-pick lvl increasing difficult.

 

From the plugins, I only used DB (dragonborn) and BAD (beasts are dwemer).

 

Logging is active (is active by default?), but there is no /logs folder in my skyrim folder,

only the save's , SKSE (where is also no log for SCB) and JCUser.

[DayTri]

On 5/30/2022 at 8:20 AM, a10g06 said:

When i wrote you, I had version 0.5.7 SE

I installed your patch later but still have the same problem.

 

Most settings are default, only changed the with lock-pick lvl increasing difficult.

 

From the plugins, I only used DB (dragonborn) and BAD (beasts are dwemer).

 

Logging is active (is active by default?), but there is no /logs folder in my skyrim folder,

only the save's , SKSE (where is also no log for SCB) and JCUser.

 

You have not enabled logging if the logs/ folder isn't there.

 

You should have these lines in your skyrim.ini file:

 

[Papyrus]
bEnableLogging=1
bEnableTrace=1
bLoadDebugInformation = 1

 

skyrim.ini is in the same folder your logs and saves should appear in. If you have mod organizer, you must edit the one in the profiles/[your_profile_name] subfolder as it will override the one in the My Games/ folder.

[MTB]

On 5/29/2022 at 10:43 PM, frhghz said:

First installed 0.5.7, then 0.5.8

I'm using LE; only chainbeast MCM was missing

Loadorder

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GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
hdtHighHeel.esm=1
Heels Sound.esm=1
SGHairPackBase.esm=1
SexLab.esm=1
EB-Races.esm=1
CreatureFramework.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1
Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1
ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1
SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm=1
Amputator.esm=1
Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm=1
SkyUI.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
UIExtensions.esp=1
FNIS.esp=1
FNISSexyMove.esp=1
XPMSE.esp=1
SOSRaceMenu.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp=1
KS Hairdos - HDT.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp=1
Remodeled Armor.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Dawnguard.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Dragonborn.esp=1
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp=1
RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp=1
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1
SGHairPackAIO.esp=1
ExtraPocket.esp=1
DarkStandalone.esp=1
Daedric Chainmail CBBE.esp=1
SlaveTats.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp=1
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp=1
HDT Piercingsets.esp=1
sr_FillHerUp.esp=1
EroSeleneArmor.esp=1
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp=1
SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp=1
Tainted_Blood.esp=1
LaFemmeLycana.esp=1
MoreNastyCritters.esp=1
HentaiCreatures.esp=1
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1
SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp=1
SLAnimLoader.esp=1
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1
SexLabDefeat.esp=1
SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp=1
BastHelm.esp=1
ZaitamasAncientShroudedArmor.esp=1
SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp=1
mcgDwarvenDeviousCuirass.esp=1
Zipsuit.esp=1
Spriggan Armor 2.esp=1
dcc-dm2.esp=1
SimpleSlavery.esp=1
SLAL_AnimObj_Nymra.esp=1
Devious Rubber Masks Rebirth.esp=1
SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp=1
SLDragons.esp=1
Devious Rubber Ponies Rebirth.esp=1
SexLabMatchMaker.esp=1
Sayaka_Suit.esp=1
Rubber_Resources.esp=1
KS Hairdo's.esp=1
Devious Devices For Him.esp=1
Devious Devices - BRRF.esp=1
[Predator] Latex Condom Suit.esp=1
DeviousFollowers.esp=1
S_L_U_T_S.esp=1
SLSF_FameComments_DogWhore.esp=1
SLSFFameComments.esp=1
PsycheAnimationObjects.esp=1
zzEstrus.esp=0
EstrusChaurus.esp=1
troublesofheroineHF.esp=1
troublesofheroineDB.esp=1
troublesofheroineDG.esp=1
SexLab-Parasites.esp=1
troublesofheroine.esp=1
pchsImmersivePlugs.esp=1
SLSW Addicted.esp=1
submissivelola_est.esp=1

here were the chain beast ones, atm deinstalled
 

 

 

 

Had a look. You can safely ignore the message about not being able to update, that's just an incorrect condition check in a script function that does nothing anyways.  As for the MCM not appearing; you have quite an extensive load order. Perhaps you just need to give it a few moments ?  (That the warning appears shows that MCM is busy being initialized, so it should appear...)

 

On 5/30/2022 at 10:50 AM, a10g06 said:

I installed your patch later but still have the same problem.

 

That does not surprise me as the patch was for other issues. I've no idea what could cause this and still not able to reproduce it.  May try to change some things to see if that solves it, but stabbing in the blind.  Need more  info to figure out what's going on.  As DayTri mentioned you need to set a few ini settings for logging to be active.

 

[frhghz]

3 hours ago, MTB said:

 

Had a look. You can safely ignore the message about not being able to update, that's just an incorrect condition check in a script function that does nothing anyways.  As for the MCM not appearing; you have quite an extensive load order. Perhaps you just need to give it a few moments ?  (That the warning appears shows that MCM is busy being initialized, so it should appear...)

 

 

Ok, will test it at a later date, my PC is atm out of order, my ssd died last week?

[petterparker09]

I have problems to install these requirements in SKSE... can someone help me?

 

Requirements:

• For DB plugin only:  Dragonborn DLC
• For PAH plugin only: Paradise Halls Extended

[MTB]

12 hours ago, petterparker09 said:

I have problems to install these requirements in SKSE... can someone help me?

 

Requirements:

• For DB plugin only:  Dragonborn DLC
• For PAH plugin only: Paradise Halls Extended

 

SKSE - Do you mean Skyrim Special Edition?  (usually indicated as SE or SSE, as SKSE is already used for skyrim script extender).

 

In SSE you will already have Dragonborn DLC included ; nothing to do, just leave the DB option selected in the installer if you want the little bit of added content in Sosltheim.

 

The PAH plugin only makes sense if you have Paradise Halls Extended installed: 

 

else simply leave PAH(E) plugin deselected in the installer.

 

 

[petterparker09]

Hi! help me pls, the MCM is not displayed 

[petterparker09]

On 6/12/2022 at 3:50 PM, MTB said:

 

SKSE - Do you mean Skyrim Special Edition?  (usually indicated as SE or SSE, as SKSE is already used for skyrim script extender).

 

In SSE you will already have Dragonborn DLC included ; nothing to do, just leave the DB option selected in the installer if you want the little bit of added content in Sosltheim.

 

The PAH plugin only makes sense if you have Paradise Halls Extended installed: 

 

else simply leave PAH(E) plugin deselected in the installer.

 

 

ty!