Cr4zyAng3l Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 So i played a few min ago without crashing then i crashed when entered a building later on i added few mods and started crashing so i took those mods out but i still crash help. Papyrus Log: https://pastebin.com/7KnjyQRn My Load Order: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm hdtHighHeel.esm RaceCompatibility.esm SMSkyrim.esp TeenVoice.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm MiasLair.esp MFVM.esm Campfire.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm daymoyl.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm Heels Sound.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp FNIS.esp Brows.esp SkyUI.esp FNISSexyMove.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenu2.esp KS Hairdo's.esp XPMSE.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp MikanEyes All in one.esp Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp Eyes of Aber.esp FreckleMania.esp SkyRe_Main.esp babes combined.esp Bijin Wives.esp numenume femalebrows MARO.esp LindsHumanEyes.esp saLa_Hairs.esp [KijikoHair_MalePack].esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Hunters Not Bandits.esp UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp 3DNPC.esp FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp HearthfireMultiKid.esp HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp Undeath.esp SoS - The Wilds.esp SoS - The Dungeons.esp TheEvilMansionFE.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Fina.esp AuroraFollower.esp marriagemod - alpha v3.esp Inigo.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Immersive Weapons.esp SlaveTrainer.esp SexLabDefeat.esp Defeated_Slaves.esp TKAA.esp Victoria Velina Revamped.esp Run For Your Lives.esp xazPrisonOverhaul.esp OK_Followers.esp Immersive Wenches.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp Immersive Followers.esp SofiaFollower.esp Ellyfollower.esp Recorder Follower Base.esp KNM_Mour.esp PerkusMaximus_Master.esp PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp Leiyane Follower.esp PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp Midas Magic Expanded.esp KNM_AcalyphaFollower.esp JadeyEliza_Followers.esp Lilith_Follower.esp Follower Neisa.esp WMFSEliFollower.esp Harem.esp AlvhildeFollower.esp vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp My Home Is Your Home.esp SororityGirlsOfSkyrimByAsherz.esp AltmerSisters.esp Sunsakuka's Eliel Version 1.esp Lilithya.esp Shyvana.esp Sunsakuka Follower Pack.esp LunariWarriors.esp Hermit.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Falari - YuiH StandAlone Follower.esp YuiH StandAlone Follower - Merura.esp Chiasa.esp 0_Selina_Selvtillit.esp Vaelishna.esp Companion_Ari.esp Finnia.esp Kamira.esp Anabel.esp Seductress Elizabeth.esp Toccata.esp Kamille.esp NMD - Heather Standalone.esp FollowerSha.esp Overknee_Betty.esp CanCho_YunsolFollower.esp Poet.esp ARTA Follower Frey.esp Alessandra Standalone follower.esp Overknee_Kaitlyn.esp Wendigo.esp kairi_kirineko.esp CeciliaFollower.esp Shae.esp Metis.esp PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp SMSkyrim - Compressed.esp SMSkyrim - Encounters.esp ta4_ris.esp ta4_sver.esp MFVM_Hearthfire_Patch.esp RRC_CustomVoiceFollower_Judy.esp Overknee_Patricia.esp No2F.esp Lyra.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp NW7_Tyrie_Follower_1.0.esp SKY_Girls.esp Xevaria Follower.esp Nila.esp RRC_MercyFollower.esp Sunsakuka's Follower.esp Overknee_Ophelia.esp UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Luna_GoV.esp Yeriel Follower.esp Bonney.esp Xanafollower.esp Succubus-san.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Unique Uniques.esp No6F.esp TERAArmors_CBBE.esp IcePenguinWorldMap.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Avelyn Follower.esp ZoyaFollower.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp FlameAtronachArmor.esp FullBootForKKSA.esp NordicSkaalHeavyFalmerWeightFix.esp Devious Deviants.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp [dint]_NeirAutomataHDT.esp SlaveTats.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp SLALAnimObj.esp SLAL_K4Anims.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp SMSkyrim - Alternate Start + General Patch.esp ReProccer.esp
Lelgato Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 Try the same thing i told this other guy put all your items in a chest including key items using console, then do player.resetinventory which removes and invisible item that causes crashes sometimes. This has fixed random crashes for me and a few others have said it fixed it. could just be a corrupt save tho
Cr4zyAng3l Posted February 3, 2018 Author Posted February 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, Rignar said: Try the same thing i told this other guy put all your items in a chest including key items using console, then do player.resetinventory which removes and invisible item that causes crashes sometimes. This has fixed random crashes for me and a few others have said it fixed it. could just be a corrupt save tho what if i crash when i try to load the game or start a new save? well actually i can start new game i do everything i choose what start i want cuz i use alternative start go to bed it starts loading and crashes
Lelgato Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, Cr4zyAng3l said: hmm yea youre right it is a mod conflict. which mods did you install right before it started happening?
Cr4zyAng3l Posted February 3, 2018 Author Posted February 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rignar said: hmm yea youre right it is a mod conflict. which mods did you install right before it started happening? well i actually removed all of them but nothing changed not sure why. It worked fine i enabled the mods game doesnt work i removed them still doesnt work. If i continue i crash instantly if i load quick save i crash when i exit the cave(i was in a cave) new game crashes when i go to bed....
Fifoo Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 The safest solution is to go back to an earlier savegame, that is, done before installing and uninstalling or modifying your mods. Otherwise your backup file will be corrupted. And loading/saving a game session with a quick-save is definitely not recommended if you have a full list of activated or heavy scripts mods.
jlttsmiley Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 Enable papayus debug Go to your SKYRIM.INI LOOK FOR THESE LINE UNDER [PAPARYUS] [Papyrus] bEnableLogging=1 bEnableTrace=1 bLoadDebugInformation = 1 This will create a log in your games folder , post that here it help find the proplem
Cr4zyAng3l Posted February 3, 2018 Author Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, jlttsmiley said: Enable papayus debug Go to your SKYRIM.INI LOOK FOR THESE LINE UNDER [PAPARYUS] [Papyrus] bEnableLogging=1 bEnableTrace=1 bLoadDebugInformation = 1 This will create a log in your games folder , post that here it help find the proplem I did its that link https://pastebin.com/7KnjyQRn
jlttsmiley Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 Once you find the problem don,t forgetr to reset the =1 back to =0 it can slow your system down . The log will tell what mod was running when it crash also let you know what cause prpblem ih the future.
jlttsmiley Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 The last has to do with the HEARTFIRE DLC Ibelieve [byohhousebuildingscript ] YOUR LOG HAS A LOT OF ERRORS Sorry I have to ask did you CLEAN your MASTER FILES with TESV EDIT ? wHAT ARE YOU USING TO SORT YOUR LOAD ORDER? Most times crashes happen because something is looking for something else that is no longer there , because of that you end up with broken scripts that corrupt your game. My best suggestion would be to delete all your saves and start from a fresh game with no saves, or use TESV EDIT TO CHECK YOUR GAMES STABILITY
jlttsmiley Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 DOWNLOAD AND TRY THIS This has help me soooooo much with my game. Just do want the is sayed in the video . trust me this might save your game save game script cleaner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwSA3pJgA5A
Cr4zyAng3l Posted February 3, 2018 Author Posted February 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, jlttsmiley said: The last has to do with the HEARTFIRE DLC Ibelieve [byohhousebuildingscript ] YOUR LOG HAS A LOT OF ERRORS Sorry I have to ask did you CLEAN your MASTER FILES with TESV EDIT ? wHAT ARE YOU USING TO SORT YOUR LOAD ORDER? Most times crashes happen because something is looking for something else that is no longer there , because of that you end up with broken scripts that corrupt your game. My best suggestion would be to delete all your saves and start from a fresh game with no saves, or use TESV EDIT TO CHECK YOUR GAMES STABILITY I use LOOT to sort my load order and no i havent cleaned my master files yet
worik Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 Just in case you intend to start a new game, I strongly suggest to dive deeper into your load order and give it a bit more thought. Certainly not now, since it would go against your recovery intentions of the current game! But maybe make a note for the next game.
Fifoo Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 Your savegame is certainly completely mess up. Before installing and uninstalling or modifying your mods you must make a "Clean save" first. Note that even changing the loading order of mods can affect your savegame. And loading/saving a game session with a quick-save is definitely not recommended if you have a full list of activated or heavy scripts mods. Learn how and when to do a Clean save and see this workaround explained by STEP. 1 hour ago, Cr4zyAng3l said: well actually i can start new game i do everything i choose what start i want cuz i use alternative start go to bed it starts loading and crashes From Alternate Start's OP toubleshooting page: The game crashes whenever I use the bed! Don't tell me this isn't your fault either. Surprise! It's not my fault either. The only known cause for this is using a body mod with a mismatched skeleton that's not compatible with it. When the bed is used, your character gets stripped of the prison clothing and your new equipment is added based on what you started as. It is this process that causes the issue when a skeleton mod that doesn't match the body is used. Something to do with bones the body mod is looking for that the skeleton doesn't have. Oddly enough, this tends to only happen on female characters. I have no idea why that is. If this just confused the shit out of you, you're not alone. I don't use body mods. The only advice I can offer is to contact the authors of the body mod you're using and find out if it's compatible with the skeleton you're using. Trust me, you'll know if you're not using the vanilla skeleton because it requires installing one separately. Again, since I don't know body mods, it's possible you just need to be sure that if the body mod comes with one that you're using that instead of something else.
Cr4zyAng3l Posted February 3, 2018 Author Posted February 3, 2018 well i know its not body mods cuz i always use them and never crashes before but i will see how to do a clean save and do some research on how to use TES5
Fifoo Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Cr4zyAng3l said: it starts loading Oh sorry, I did not pay attention to that (I'm not English native) forget my previous post.
Cr4zyAng3l Posted February 3, 2018 Author Posted February 3, 2018 47 minutes ago, Fifoo said: Oh sorry, I did not pay attention to that (I'm not English native) forget my previous post. yeah no problem im going to clean my master files i hope that helps if it doesnt ima check for mod conflicts
Grey Cloud Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 I noticed that you have (at least) two UFO add-ons installed plus AFT. Is this not a bad thing? You have: a zillion follower mods. several follower dialogue mods. Half a zillion eye mods. no USLEEP patch. no Hi Res texture pack patch. Do you wait until all your MCMs have loaded before you use the AS LAL bed?
Cr4zyAng3l Posted February 3, 2018 Author Posted February 3, 2018 19 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: I noticed that you have (at least) two UFO add-ons installed plus AFT. Is this not a bad thing? You have: a zillion follower mods. several follower dialogue mods. Half a zillion eye mods. no USLEEP patch. no Hi Res texture pack patch. Do you wait until all your MCMs have loaded before you use the AS LAL bed? im supposed to have both of add-ons for both updates not sure about AFT. Yeah im addicted to followers but most of them are standalone so they shouldn't conflict. I've got some eyes mod but doesn't seem like it crashes but might check it out. Ima install USLEEP patch and High res patch too. Yes i wait for all the MCM's to load before i start. Ive got slight idea of what could crash it its Immersive Patrols or Immersive Citizens they usually crash but not sure.
Grey Cloud Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 50 minutes ago, Cr4zyAng3l said: im supposed to have both of add-ons for both updates not sure about AFT. Yeah im addicted to followers but most of them are standalone so they shouldn't conflict. I've got some eyes mod but doesn't seem like it crashes but might check it out. Ima install USLEEP patch and High res patch too. Yes i wait for all the MCM's to load before i start. Ive got slight idea of what could crash it its Immersive Patrols or Immersive Citizens they usually crash but not sure. UFO hasn't been updated since 2013. You don't appear to have it installed anyway - just the add-ons. I'm sure that if you search you will find something which tells you not to have UFO and AFT installed. When you run LOOT does it show any Warnings or Errors (top right hand corner)?
Cr4zyAng3l Posted February 3, 2018 Author Posted February 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said: UFO hasn't been updated since 2013. You don't appear to have it installed anyway - just the add-ons. I'm sure that if you search you will find something which tells you not to have UFO and AFT installed. When you run LOOT does it show any Warnings or Errors (top right hand corner)? warnings no errors
valcon767 Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 some notes 1 - having UFO (or its addons) and AFT at the same time is indeed a bad thing, because they do the same thing - affect the vanilla follower system. just chose one of them (you will have to start a new game to be sure all the "baked in" data is cleared out). 2 - XPMSE (skeleton) seems kinda high in load order (i usually have mine near the very end to make it simple), if anything overwrites it's skeleton it can cause problems. i would suggest you check to be sure nothing is overwriting it. some follower mods (and other mods) also include skeletons (i do not know if you have one of those followers or not). you could just move XPMSE to near the very end of your load order to be sure it is not getting overwritten, and if you really want to be safe you could then (after moving it) reinstall it. 3 - no bashed patch - you do not have to actually use one, but it is worth making one, if for no other reason, than it will give a "missing master" warning for actual missing masters and for misplaced masters. hope this information is helpful
Cr4zyAng3l Posted February 4, 2018 Author Posted February 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, valcon767 said: some notes 1 - having UFO (or its addons) and AFT at the same time is indeed a bad thing, because they do the same thing - affect the vanilla follower system. just chose one of them (you will have to start a new game to be sure all the "baked in" data is cleared out). 2 - XPMSE (skeleton) seems kinda high in load order (i usually have mine near the very end to make it simple), if anything overwrites it's skeleton it can cause problems. i would suggest you check to be sure nothing is overwriting it. some follower mods (and other mods) also include skeletons (i do not know if you have one of those followers or not). you could just move XPMSE to near the very end of your load order to be sure it is not getting overwritten, and if you really want to be safe you could then (after moving it) reinstall it. 3 - no bashed patch - you do not have to actually use one, but it is worth making one, if for no other reason, than it will give a "missing master" warning for actual missing masters and for misplaced masters. hope this information is helpful Ok thanks will try that out
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