How about a Softcore type of mod?

[Cezul]

Now, i know we're still light years behind Lovers for Oblivion in the Skyrim department of Sex related mods. But one thing that kind of irked me, there wasn't a whole lot in the way of actual softcore or romance ( or even light rape/groping for that matter )

 

Proposal #1: General Harassment ( of the sexual kind )

I always thought it would be neat, if NPCs actually have a reaction to your character's attractiveness. Now, i thought how that could actually be measured, attractiveness. The general idea, i think, is that it should be measured by doing on a check on your Body Weight, and whether or not you're wearing a lot of clothes ( A clothing evaluation mod like in New Vegas may come in handy ). So basically, the mod would do a scan, take the info of your body weight and clothing, and relay that to nearby NPCs, then probably do a check on their disposition and responsibility, which will then determine whether or not they come after you.

Now, once they've got you, this is where the animation part kicks in. As a female, you'll probably get your breasts groped or a hand between the thigh (Maybe even a smack of dat ass and he'll just leave, if he a guard or something and suddenly realises what he's getting into and stops, etc. ). Now, since Skyrim allows you to have dialogue while animations play, this can make this even more interesting. As this goes on, the player can be given some talk options. Maybe three options? Obviously the first two will be a resist option which will probably weigh your combat skills against the attacker, upon fail it may escalate into rape. Second option could be to give in or basically accept the advances, leading to sex but not quite rape. Third option is maybe a call for help? May have to see if there's a way to give it a sort of radius of effectiveness, if heard i guess a guard will jump in and stop the harassment. That's all i got for this idea.

 

 

Proposal #2: General Softcore stuff/options. The basic idea of the mod is that it adds some unique dialogue options which trigger an animation. Things like hugging, or sneaking in a kiss to perhaps raise disposition of a shopkeeper into better prices. Small things like that. Maybe it can get bonuses from the Speech perk tree. I just think it may enhance general immersion and interactivity with the game. I would say even flashing or light exposing yourself to sort of seduce and get what you want, but that'd be pretty hard to do. Would need a lot of scripting and animating.

[Guest]

Now' date=' i know we're still light years behind Lovers for Oblivion in the Skyrim department of Sex related mods. But one thing that kind of irked me, there wasn't a whole lot in the way of actual softcore or romance ( or even light rape/groping for that matter )

 

Proposal #1: General Harassment ( of the sexual kind )

I always thought it would be neat, if NPCs actually have a reaction to your character's attractiveness. Now, i thought how that could actually be measured, attractiveness. The general idea, i think, is that it should be measured by doing on a check on your Body Weight, and whether or not you're wearing a lot of clothes ( A clothing evaluation mod like in New Vegas may come in handy ). So basically, the mod would do a scan, take the info of your body weight and clothing, and relay that to nearby NPCs, then probably do a check on their disposition and responsibility, which will then determine whether or not they come after you.

Now, once they've got you, this is where the animation part kicks in. As a female, you'll probably get your breasts groped or a hand between the thigh (Maybe even a smack of dat ass and he'll just leave, if he a guard or something and suddenly realises what he's getting into and stops, etc. ). Now, since Skyrim allows you to have dialogue while animations play, this can make this even more interesting. As this goes on, the player can be given some talk options. Maybe three options? Obviously the first two will be a resist option which will probably weigh your combat skills against the attacker, upon fail it may escalate into rape. Second option could be to give in or basically accept the advances, leading to sex but not quite rape. Third option is maybe a call for help? May have to see if there's a way to give it a sort of radius of effectiveness, if heard i guess a guard will jump in and stop the harassment. That's all i got for this idea.

 

 

Proposal #2: General Softcore stuff/options. The basic idea of the mod is that it adds some unique dialogue options which trigger an animation. Things like hugging, or sneaking in a kiss to perhaps raise disposition of a shopkeeper into better prices. Small things like that. Maybe it can get bonuses from the Speech perk tree. I just think it may enhance general immersion and interactivity with the game. I would say even flashing or light exposing yourself to sort of seduce and get what you want, but that'd be pretty hard to do. Would need a lot of scripting and animating.

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Both sounds pretty awesome but I'd definitely like to see the 2nd suggestion. It kinda bugs me that we have quite "good looking" sex animations but not even one animation for hugging or kissing.

[bdumbly1]

@absurd Not entirely true. Dovahkiin relaxes too has an option to hug your spouse. So there is that. But i do see what you mean and it would be nice

[DocClox]

There's a hug animation in vanilla. Shade and canderes have been using it to try and reverse engineer paired animations.

 

But yeah, I'd love some softcore animations to play with. I'd like some groping and fondling anims; kissing, whether as a peck on the cheek or full-on tonsil hockey; I'd like some general making out as well.

[afa]

I've wanted something similar to this even for Oblivion and Fallout.

 

I am sure people can figure out the animations eventually, but just considering making a similar mod but for oblivion/fallout where animations have pretty much already been figured out seems challenging.

 

I think the harder part is the "attractiveness check" and the "clothing check." With custom bodies things might be a little weird with just a simple body weight check, not to mention character's looks. (although we can work under the assumption that most characters are good looking in their players' eyes)

 

Clothing is another tricky business, Oblivion sort of have break armor to work with, and I think there is a fallout clothing evaluation system somewhere in these forums that can identify selected sets of outfits, at the most basic level there are mods that take into account of clothing/armor cost or armor rating.

But none of these are really totally fool proof since there are thousands of custom armor and clothing out there and many of them would be consider revealing or carries certain attributes, but the game will not know that unless there is some way to enter that information manually into the game.

[migal130]

Both sounds pretty awesome but I'd definitely like to see the 2nd suggestion. It kinda bugs me that we have quite "good looking" sex animations but not even one animation for hugging or kissing.

 

BBLS has been letting players hug NPCs for months and in the recent version, you have a 30% chance to slap one of them on the rump when you do it. And she likes it.

[Guest]

Hm yea I know that BBLS and Dovahkin Relaxes have hugging animations but as far as I can remember they looked really awkward.

[someguy83]

I've wanted something similar to this even for Oblivion and Fallout.

 

I am sure people can figure out the animations eventually' date=' but just considering making a similar mod but for oblivion/fallout where animations have pretty much already been figured out seems challenging.

 

I think the harder part is the "attractiveness check" and the "clothing check." With custom bodies things might be a little weird with just a simple body weight check, not to mention character's looks. (although we can work under the assumption that most characters are good looking in their players' eyes)

 

Clothing is another tricky business, Oblivion sort of have break armor to work with, and I think there is a fallout clothing evaluation system somewhere in these forums that can identify selected sets of outfits, at the most basic level there are mods that take into account of clothing/armor cost or armor rating.

But none of these are really totally fool proof since there are thousands of custom armor and clothing out there and many of them would be consider revealing or carries certain attributes, but the game will not know that unless there is some way to enter that information manually into the game.

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Having the game check your weight and clothing for attractiveness is doable, but it would take a lot of work. I think the better way of doing it would be to group the npcs by attractiveness, and then make factions based on attractiveness. So lydia would be in the Attractive Faction, you could keep going with this and rank all the npcs by how attractive THEY are (hot faction, meh faction, ugly faction.. When you are trying your pickup lines do a condition check to look for what faction they are in and whether or not you are in the Attractive faction, and go from there. You could tie it to a questline to become attractive or spell (or to a particular piece of clothing). That is the closest I can formulate, because I am trying to work out how to do a similar mod.

[Cezul]

As far as clothing is concerned, i really think something like the clothing evaluation system in the Fallout Threads is probably the best idea. It basically allows you to take ANY piece of clothing or armour, and it allows you to tag it with certain variables e.g. Is it ' skimpy armor ', nipple exposure, etc.

It just needs to be as customisable and user defined as possible, because let's face it, there's going to be billions of different armour/clothing mods in the future, and no one really wants to configure all of them for the mod.

 

Could probably use it as a type of framework that relays worn clothing ( or what you're NOT wearing ) info to NPCs so they can garner the correct reaction.

[someguy83]

As far as clothing is concerned' date=' i really think something like the clothing evaluation system in the Fallout Threads is probably the best idea. It basically allows you to take ANY piece of clothing or armour, and it allows you to tag it with certain variables e.g. Is it ' skimpy armor ', nipple exposure, etc.

It just needs to be as customisable and user defined as possible, because let's face it, there's going to be billions of different armour/clothing mods in the future, and no one really wants to configure all of them for the mod.

 

Could probably use it as a type of framework that relays worn clothing ( or what you're NOT wearing ) info to NPCs so they can garner the correct reaction.

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Like I said, doable, but it would take a ton of work. I wish modding was easier, or you could just plug in a mod from an older game and go.

[afa]

Not saying that it isn't doable, but how would the approach be?

 

Could probably use it as a type of framework that relays worn clothing ( or what you're NOT wearing ) info to NPCs so they can garner the correct reaction.

 

This is an interesting idea, I actually have some thoughts about this before for Oblivion, but since I am no modder and even the concept itself starts to eat itself up I never quite got it down even to an abstract stage.

[DocClox]

We have plans for that in Sexrim. Kind of on the back burner for now, at least until I can get a good, fast dynamic list lookup coded. But it's on the todo list.

 

unless anyone wants to take a crack at it first, of course.

 

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How to do it? Well, we can make custom data structures by extending markers or misc items, so we can have an item that stores all the data for an item, including potentially lists for breakable undies or pregnancy, as well as flags for skin exposure and so forth.

 

Then we store the obejcts in an array and write a function to loop over it looking for the base object in question.

 

The big problem is that arrays are limited to 128 elements, which is too small, while formlists are slow. Like 0.2 seconds per iteration slow.

 

There's some things we can look at like stitching arrays together with custom objects, or SKSE extensions, but the list handling is the big showstopper.

 

That and a menu system to categorise your clothing and a way to save the configuration. OK, it is a lot of work.

 

the other approach would be to add an SQLite SKSE extension and do the whole thing as a database, which ought to work and shouldn't be too hard to do

[Blargh!]

 

Proposal #1: General Harassment ( of the sexual kind )

Now' date=' i thought how that could actually be measured, attractiveness. The general idea, i think, is that it should be measured by doing on a check on your Body Weight,

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That'd be all well adn good if everyone had the same mentality, but they don't I have a Wood Elf character on the lowest part of the slider (I use UNPB) and she's just as 'good looking' as, say Lydia (Max weight) So, how would you go about doing that? I mean, if you like massive titties but whoever made it set it to 'the smaller the better' then your character would be considered 'ugly'

 

And on a similair note, it's difficult to do clothing based on armour rating (I've seen bikini mods that have better protection than Daedric armour)

 

And yes, BBLS has a nice (Vanilla) hugging animation in it, even works in first person.

 

But, I do agree with the whole idea, I mean even the anims for Sexout were a bit... rough. (Usually because the motion was too quick, like speedy gonzalez quick.) And I'd love to see some nice, soft anims. (The F-F ones in ASX are pretty nice, but until it gets updated, you have to activate it using spells.)

[Cezul]

 

Proposal #1: General Harassment ( of the sexual kind )

Now' date=' i thought how that could actually be measured, attractiveness. The general idea, i think, is that it should be measured by doing on a check on your Body Weight,

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That'd be all well adn good if everyone had the same mentality, but they don't I have a Wood Elf character on the lowest part of the slider (I use UNPB) and she's just as 'good looking' as, say Lydia (Max weight) So, how would you go about doing that? I mean, if you like massive titties but whoever made it set it to 'the smaller the better' then your character would be considered 'ugly'

 

And on a similair note, it's difficult to do clothing based on armour rating (I've seen bikini mods that have better protection than Daedric armour)

 

And yes, BBLS has a nice (Vanilla) hugging animation in it, even works in first person.

 

But, I do agree with the whole idea, I mean even the anims for Sexout were a bit... rough. (Usually because the motion was too quick, like speedy gonzalez quick.) And I'd love to see some nice, soft anims. (The F-F ones in ASX are pretty nice, but until it gets updated, you have to activate it using spells.)

 

Eh, i thought about this.. But in general society most men tend to like HUEG tits. Again, i'd just like to say user configuration for added customisability would be best. Kind of like how Lovers Joburg had several 'stalk' options ( LOL burning man love ) maybe a Reverse Attractiveness option? ( The lower your body weight the more attractive you are )

[shaidien]

two thing 1 i dont no if it is posable but my take is asign age to all npc,s and pc also then run a check for dif

and 2 if its posable to count how many polygons or what ever thay called of skin actor has showing at any time the higher the number the more sexxy

not sure my termanolagy is right or if any of this would be posable but it would make for a good frame work on sexxy

[Aarcus]

Sorry to intrude but thought id just tell you about a mod i have in play, that doesn't seem to interfere with other mods.

 

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/23099

 

its a mod to change your spouses clothing mostly, but after every interaction with this mods dialogue there is quite a well done hug.

 

nice "softcore" if you will mod.

[UnderwaterTentacles]

Could one not exploit the fact that different people like different things? So some actors likes small breasts and leather clothing, and some other ones likes nudity and red heads.

 

Adding 1-3 'fetishes' (could be done as a perk or ability) to every actor in the game (dynamically via scripting) could create a base for a believable erotic atmosphere. One could then modify their behavior by animations, dialogue and perhaps actions (tries to stalk each other, hugs and gropes persons, etc). If the actor is a male (or a certain kind of female) and one have two different nude models and switch between sleeping snake and proud battleship mode.

[Valgo]

This would be my dreammod I think.

Hugging, kissing, groping (consensual or non-consensual).

 

About the attractivity-problem. Lets just give the player an option between:

Ugly: You get nobodys attention.

Not beautiful: You don't get much attention.

Common(Average?): You get normal attention.

Attractive: You get much attention.

Very Beautiful: You get everybodys attention.

 

Even if you play an fat orc dude and choose attractive, people adore you.

And if you create a hot chic or a dude and choose 'ugly' there won't be many people who would want to kiss/ hug/ etc. you.

 

And about the armor:

No Clothes: You asked for it *grope*

Clothes: + Attention

Light Armor: Normal Attention

Heavy Armor: - Attention

[WaxenFigure]

Hidden spoiler about an Easter Egg in the BBLS mod.

 

 

Apachii showed up in the BBLS and after I ran through several of her interactions she moved up and kissed my character. That means there is at least one kissing animation out there as well.

 

[thoranhaxmaul]

Agree with the basic idea. Hell if I find out there's a butt-grabbing mod I might get it tomorrow. However, Skyrim already has a gage for how much NPCs like /dislike the player, and it's already fairly believeable. And it's a mechanic the player can improve upon with quests and stuff. There's even already rewards for it; free items in their house, marriage availability, etc. 

Besides, in my experience IRL girls are way less likely to complain when you sexually harrass them if they know & like you. 

[jalingon3011]

Damn I was just thinking about this idea then someone beat me to it...

 

What I think is that we first need some "foreplay" animations made. These can be used in both sexual harrassment parts and can be incorporated into sex mods (so sex can start with foreplay). Once we have the animation, we can work on the  sexual harrassment mechanic, where males can harrass (and escalate harrassment) both you, your follower, or female NPCs either by random chance (much like random rape) or other means.

 

One little things I like to add is where the male looks at the females. Right now they all look at the faces, but I think occasion look in the breast or butt (or swimming between them) with a smirk would be a nice little feature to add.

[Deep Red]

Would love to see something like this done. Instant sex is fun and all, but foreplay is the appetizer here. I like to ease into it sometimes as well...

[menatv]

Yep, I was hoping someone would do this as well.  I like the idea of the groping and maybe leading to something else later on.  (either NC sex or even accepting those advances and having sexual situations at another time/place).

 

 

[Rin (romeman)]

I would love this type of mod, and i would love to make this aswell, but I am already involved in another mod, and I'm not a scripter.

[thoranhaxmaul]

Also been thinking about it and I think the voice response should be the same as receiving a heeling spell. (If friendly NPC) or of course an attack for neutral NPCs. In some cases this won't make any sense (Lidya specifically mentions the heeling spell and asks if you're a priest for example) but in other cases, sometimes their response to a healing spell is oddly sexual.