snarfies Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 I am crashing early on in the mod, when I hide behind the rock. I get the text popup that I've hidden, day turns to night, and boom. I installed MessageLogger (https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/45870) to try to get some insight. Here's what it said: 2017/12/30 23:58:39 [0056762C] [WARNING] Package 'SMClothesChange' is not a valid package because it is missing necessary Target Or Location Info. 2017/12/30 23:58:39 [0056762C] [WARNING] Package 'SMClothesChange' is not a valid package because it is missing necessary Target Or Location Info. 2017/12/30 23:58:39 [00528D57] [WARNING] Cannot create a head for an NPC (-16775117) that does not have a biped-head node. 2017/12/30 23:58:43 [005170B1] [WARNING] Unable to find function definition for command 0 in script 'xLoversCheckObse2QuestScript'. 2017/12/30 23:58:43 [00528D57] [WARNING] Cannot create a head for an NPC (-16775107) that does not have a biped-head node. 2017/12/30 23:58:44 [00436925] [WARNING] Model Load Error: Not a NIF file in . Will use the default object Marker_Error.NIF. So... anyone know what all that jazz means?
myuhinny Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 Is there a scene that is suppose to start when you crash? Is your player wearing any clothes at that time? If they are try removing your clothing before hiding. What do you have all installed? SMClothesChange must be about removing or putting on or changing clothing. What do you have all installed? It is best not to have much installed when playing this as many things can conflict.
fejeena Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 The "hide behind the rock " scene. The player can wear anything he wants or can be nude, the player clothes will not be changed. All the warnings/errors messages are about the NPC, the woman who is supposed to masturbate. She gets a new Package, must undress, equip a dildo,... I think you have not installed all files . You have a missing mesh : 2017/12/30 23:58:44 [00436925] [WARNING] Model Load Error: Not a NIF file in . Will use the default object Marker_Error.NIF. And : 2017/12/30 23:58:43 [005170B1] [WARNING] Unable to find function definition for command 0 in script 'xLoversCheckObse2QuestScript'. Do you have OBSE installed? and is it working?
snarfies Posted January 2, 2018 Author Posted January 2, 2018 On 12/31/2017 at 2:45 AM, fejeena said: The "hide behind the rock " scene. The player can wear anything he wants or can be nude, the player clothes will not be changed. All the warnings/errors messages are about the NPC, the woman who is supposed to masturbate. She gets a new Package, must undress, equip a dildo,... I think you have not installed all files . You have a missing mesh : 2017/12/30 23:58:44 [00436925] [WARNING] Model Load Error: Not a NIF file in . Will use the default object Marker_Error.NIF. And : 2017/12/30 23:58:43 [005170B1] [WARNING] Unable to find function definition for command 0 in script 'xLoversCheckObse2QuestScript'. Do you have OBSE installed? and is it working? Oh yes, OBSE is installed and working. LoversPK/LAPF is working, for example, and yes, I have the LPK-VTOY patch. As to the meshes... the mesh archive has exactly one file in it, Vtoy - Meshes.bsa, and that's installed (via Wrye Bash). To be more specific, I have installed these packages in this order: CLS Gold MAIN esp CLS Gold Meshes CLS Gold MSV CLS Gold Textures Patch1 for Gold Edition LKP-Vtoy I have NOT installed the "Main Runtime," as it appears to be outdated skeletons that conflict with LAPF, Ely's USV (which I installed seperately), SoundCommands (which I installed seperately), and Windom Earle_s Oblivion Crash Prevention System, which the mod author hid long ago and advised it not actually be used. On 12/31/2017 at 1:20 AM, gregathit said: Try posting your full load order. Do you know how to do that from Wrye Bash? I've googled it, but all of the guides seem to be outdated, as they want me to click on stuff that simply doesn't seem to exist in current builds.
gregathit Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 So you are telling me that the method I list here isn't working? https://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/
fejeena Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 Have you read my yellow Link below? No Lovers Mods and CLS in your BashedPatch ! Deactivate all, rebuild your bashedPatch , then activate loves and CLS esm and esp again. But the missing mesh warning : 2017/12/30 23:58:44 [00436925] [WARNING] Model Load Error: Not a NIF file in . Will use the default object Marker_Error.NIF. You must have installed some files in the wrong folders or the files are not installed.
snarfies Posted January 2, 2018 Author Posted January 2, 2018 1 hour ago, fejeena said: Have you read my yellow Link below? No Lovers Mods and CLS in your BashedPatch ! Deactivate all, rebuild your bashedPatch , then activate loves and CLS esm and esp again. But the missing mesh warning : 2017/12/30 23:58:44 [00436925] [WARNING] Model Load Error: Not a NIF file in . Will use the default object Marker_Error.NIF. You must have installed some files in the wrong folders or the files are not installed. LoversSituations contains changes to NPC AI packages that would be otherwise discarded if not included in a Bashed Patch. I removed that mod though, as I couldn't get quests to end correctly in any event. So I can try that, sure. As to installing in wrong folders, I don't see how that is possible. I used Wrye Bash. The only mesh files appear to be coming from the CLS - Meshes BSA, and that is in my /data directory, right where it belongs. There are no loose meshes, save the deprecated skeletons I didn't install. I would suspect the problem isn't so much that the meshes are missing as something is preventing them from loading. I could be wrong though. 3 hours ago, gregathit said: So you are telling me that the method I list here isn't working? https://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/ Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.37] 03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.74] 04 Lovers with PK.esm 05 LoversCreature.esm 06 Fundament.esm [Version ision] 07 Oblivion Sexualized Monsters-exclu TRM.esm 08 CustomSpellIcons.esm 09 RealisticLeveling.esm 0A Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.5] 0B Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 0C DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0D Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.9] 0E All Natural.esp [Version 1.37] 0F All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.37] 10 Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1] 11 Immersive Interiors - Bravil.esp 12 Immersive Interiors - Imperial City.esp [Version 1.5] 13 Immersive Interiors - Landscape Addon.esp 14 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.37] 15 WindowLightingSystem.esp 16 AliveWaters_nofish.esp 17 Adult Books.esp 18 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp 19 SkinMannequinVan.esp 1A the punished girlbox.esp 1B Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.4.3] 1C BookTrackerOBSE.esp 1D kuerteeCleanUp.esp 1E MigNoDeath.esp [Version 1.4] 1F OblivionReloaded.esp 20 Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.1.1] 21 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9.3] 22 Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.9.3] 23 AyleidStatueMap.esp 24 ShadowbanishMap.esp 25 ShowDaedricShrines.esp 26 DLCHorseArmor.esp 27 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 28 DLCOrrery.esp 29 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 2A DLCVileLair.esp 2B DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11] 2C DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 2D DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 2E DLCSpellTomes.esp ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] ++ DLCSpellTomes - OBSEfixer.esp [Version 2.2] ** Book Jackets DLC.esp ** GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 2F VipCxj_HighHeels.esp 30 Growlfs Animated Hair.esp ++ Weapon Improvement Project.esp [Version 1.9] 31 AGS-Type2 SMDR Outfits.esp 32 AGS-Type2 Nexus Outfits.esp 33 AGS-Type2 SPB Outfits.esp ++ DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp 34 DMRA BBB R18PN Lingerie.esp [Version 1.3] 35 Forbidden.esp 36 R18PN - Bs Bondage.esp 37 RMF Bondage.esp 38 DLCThievesDen.esp 39 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.15] 3A DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.14] 3B Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.73] 3C Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] ++ Cobl Tweaks - SI.esp ++ Cobl Patch - Hunger Tongue.esp ++ Alluring Wine Bottles.esp 3D Trade and Commerce.esp 3E Trade and Commerce Update.esp [Version 1.03] 3F Hidden Treasure Chests-UL edition.esp 40 Legion-occupied Forts.esp 41 Quest-Related Dungeons Marked.esp 42 SMChorrol.esp 43 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.6.10] 44 Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp [Version 3.1] 45 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 46 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.12] 47 Artificerens Battlehorn Coblized.esp 48 DLCFrostcrag.esp 49 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10] 4A DLCFrostcragCoblAddons.esp 4B Knights.esp 4C Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.8] ++ DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Replacer.esp ** Oblivion DLC Delayers.esp [Version 1.0.1] 4D Knights - Cobl.esp [Version 2.6] 4E Better Unique Items.esp 4F BetterUniqueItemsDLC.esp 50 Roads of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.0] 51 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 2] 52 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 2] 53 xulTheHeath.esp [Version 2] 54 xulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 2.0.1] 55 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 2] 56 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 2] 57 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 2] 58 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 2] 59 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 2] 5A xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 2] 5B xulAncientYews.esp [Version 2] 5C xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 2] 5D ROC+Ancient Redwoods.esp [Version 1.0] 5E xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 2] 5F xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 2.0.0] 60 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 2] 61 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 2] 62 xulPantherRiver.esp [Version 2] 63 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 2.0.1] 64 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 2] 65 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 2] 66 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 2] 67 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 2] 68 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 2] 69 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 2] 6A ROC+UL Skingrad Outskirts Patch.esp 6B xulSnowdale.esp [Version 2] 6C xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 2] 6D xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 2] 6E xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 2] 6F xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 2] 70 Unique Landscapes.esp [Version Dummy] 71 ROC+UL-II Patch.esp [Version 1.0] 72 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] ++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0] 73 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0] 74 Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp [Version 1.2.5] 75 Better Dungeons.esp 76 DS Portable Sorters.esp [Version 1.3] 77 GMArcheryRebalance.esp [Version 1.0] 78 Grass Overhaul.esp 79 Grass Overhaul_xUL_Imperial_Isle_patch.esp [Version 1.0] ++ Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp 7A PersuasionOverhaul.esp [Version 1.43] 7B FuroGeneratorTrap.esp 7C VToy.esp 7D SMVtoyCross.esp 7E SMVtoyImperial.esp 7F LL Nudes.esp 80 LoversCalm.esp 81 LoversRaperS.esp 82 LoversBed.esp 83 LoversHorseRider2.esp 84 LoversImmoralSisters.esp 85 LoversPayBandit.esp 86 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96v5] 87 LoversBitch.esp 88 LoversCreature.esp 89 LoversAchievments.esp 8A LoversBackup2.esp 8B LoversMB2.esp 8C LoversLight.esp 8D LoversSlaveTrader.esp 8E LSTBravilUnderground.esp 8F Sex Shop.esp ++ ShinySeptims_Septimus.esp 90 SnusDungeons.esp 91 SnusDungeons - WeatherAllNatural Patch.esp 92 SnusDungeons - BD patch.esp 93 Alternative Beginnings.esp [Version 1.4.5] 94 DS Summon Luggage.esp 95 RefScope.esp [Version 2.1.2] 96 Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5] 97 Enhanced Grabbing Lovers Patch.esp 98 Bundlement.esp [Version ision] 99 Legendary Abilities-Fortify Health MOJ.esp [Version 2.0] 9A Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp 9B zzEDialog.esp ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 88] ++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 88] ++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp [Version 88] ++ Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp [Version 88] 9C 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 4.04] ++ 1em_Vilja OCOv2 Alternative.esp 9D Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.0] 9E bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV] 9F OCO-Mystic Emporium Patch.esp A0 Retroactive Health.esp A1 AB_Erotica_v2_Final.esp A2 BasicInstinct-v2.esp ++ LPK - Vtoy.esp A3 LSTaddonIn.esp A4 OSM-Exclu TRm.esp A5 Monster Girl Blockhead Edition.esp A6 BetterMenuControls.esp A7 MigPickpocket.esp [Version 1.3] A8 LootMenu.esp A9 BetterSaves.esp AA DisplayGallery.esp AB LadyFantasyBBBHVer.esp AC Travelers of Cyrodiil.esp ++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV] ++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV] ++ bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV] AD bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV] ++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV] AE bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV] AF bgMagicAlchemy.esp [Version 1.57] B0 bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp [Version 1.68UV] ** bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV] ++ bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68] B1 bgMagicLightningbolt.esp B2 MiniMap.esp ** ROC Standard Road Record.esp ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53] ** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.37] B3 Bashed Patch, 0.esp B4 Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp [Version 4.8.2] B5 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp B6 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
fejeena Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 Oh it is a Oblivion file : [00436925] [WARNING] Model Load Error: Not a NIF file in 00 is Oblivion esm. I checked the Oblivion esm ...but there is no 00436925 And I checked the Vtoy.esp but there is no 01436925 Now I don't know what's wrong in your game... sorry. ---------------- But your LPK - Vtoy.esp is not activated ( or in your bashedPatch). Again: NEVER Lovers esp and esm in your Bashed Patch. And I think CLS also not in the BashedPatch.
snarfies Posted January 2, 2018 Author Posted January 2, 2018 11 hours ago, fejeena said: Oh it is a Oblivion file : [00436925] [WARNING] Model Load Error: Not a NIF file in 00 is Oblivion esm. I checked the Oblivion esm ...but there is no 00436925 And I checked the Vtoy.esp but there is no 01436925 Now I don't know what's wrong in your game... sorry. ---------------- But your LPK - Vtoy.esp is not activated ( or in your bashedPatch). Again: NEVER Lovers esp and esm in your Bashed Patch. And I think CLS also not in the BashedPatch. LPK - Vtoy IS included in my Bashed Patch, as well as Vtoy. Per suggestion, I disabled Lovers with PK.esm and rebuilt my bashed patch. It didn't change anything. And I've looked over my Bashed Patch with TES4Edit, and saw no reason NOT to included Lovers mods into it - quite the opposite in fact, as some of those mods make changes that would be lost if not included in a bashed patch. This is not my first rodeo. Is there some actual reason not to include Lovers mods? Because I see no obvious reason.
snarfies Posted January 2, 2018 Author Posted January 2, 2018 I have something of a solution - I went and installed weOCPS.dll anyhow, which gets me past this crash (and it makes the ringing noise letting me know it has done so). But the fact that I needed to do so tells me CLS in its current form is fundamentally broken, as weOCPS is explicitly a terrible idea.
DogOnPorch Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 59 minutes ago, snarfies said: I have something of a solution - I went and installed weOCPS.dll anyhow, which gets me past this crash (and it makes the ringing noise letting me know it has done so). But the fact that I needed to do so tells me CLS in its current form is fundamentally broken, as weOCPS is explicitly a terrible idea. CLS is getting old. For sure. It never did play all that well with Lovers. Engine Bug Fix is proving to be my dll of choice. Although Crash Prevention still has some value as a warning device...you buggered your game-up...ding! https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/47085/
fejeena Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 Since I discovered LL and the Lovers Mods 2011 all install instructions say No Lovers Mods in the BashedPatch. ALL Lovers Mods ! And all Tamago/Hiyoko Mods. ALL esp and esm. ( But maybe people who play Lovers for many years do not know what they are talking about. ) The reason was , no script heavy Mods in the BashedPatch. That's why I said also CLS ( and all addon esp) not in the BashedPatch. CLS is script heavy; a own sex system, many scripted quest actions. And I don't see a reason why CLS should be in the BashedPatch. In Tes4Edit I don't see a conflict with other Mods ( If you have CLS low in your Load order ) There is only one NPC : Nerussa in CLS that is also in LoversSituation. But the changes in CLS are only "cosmetic". You can delete Nerussa in the CLS esp !!!!!
gregathit Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 6 hours ago, snarfies said: LPK - Vtoy IS included in my Bashed Patch, as well as Vtoy. Per suggestion, I disabled Lovers with PK.esm and rebuilt my bashed patch. It didn't change anything. And I've looked over my Bashed Patch with TES4Edit, and saw no reason NOT to included Lovers mods into it - quite the opposite in fact, as some of those mods make changes that would be lost if not included in a bashed patch. This is not my first rodeo. Is there some actual reason not to include Lovers mods? Because I see no obvious reason. Good freaking grief. Google a handful of my posts in the lovers tech support section and I state the reason over and over and over and over and over and over and over......IT BREAKS SCRIPTS! Now if you are fine with your game running like shit and randomly crashing (and just generally behaving in a randomly crazy manner) then just feel free to ignore us and our advice. NO HEAVILY SCRIPTED MODS SHOULD BE IN YOUR BASHED PATCH!!! EVER!!! Ignore this and you are on your own. Disable ALL lovers esp and esm files (as well as CLS stuff) and rebuild your bashed patch, then start a new game. Please also remember that we suggest a load order for lovers (and non lovers) mods. This again comes from experience helping folks trouble shoot their games. CLS runs fine. I've played it all the way through several times with the LAPF running alongside it. Lastly, you are rocking a very hefty number of mods, something CLS clearly states as being a bad idea. CLS is a very large mod, which overhauls a crap ton of stuff, and when you have overhauls competing with other overhauls, which are competing with still other overhauls, which are competing with still more overhauls........well, something is going to break. We are talking about a very old game engine here. The best advice would be to use MO (so you can have several mod setups) and simplify the shit out of your load order and play CLS on through and then uninstall it. It is a ton of fun so it would be a shame if you missed out, but it should not be a mainstay of your LO. Cheers, Greg
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