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I am crashing early on in the mod, when I hide behind the rock.  I get the text popup that I've hidden, day turns to night, and boom.

 

I installed MessageLogger (https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/45870) to try to get some insight.  Here's what it said:


2017/12/30 23:58:39  [0056762C] [WARNING]   Package 'SMClothesChange' is not a valid package because it is missing necessary Target Or Location Info.
2017/12/30 23:58:39  [0056762C] [WARNING]   Package 'SMClothesChange' is not a valid package because it is missing necessary Target Or Location Info.
2017/12/30 23:58:39  [00528D57] [WARNING]   Cannot create a head for an NPC (-16775117) that does not have a biped-head node.
2017/12/30 23:58:43  [005170B1] [WARNING]   Unable to find function definition for command 0 in script 'xLoversCheckObse2QuestScript'.
2017/12/30 23:58:43  [00528D57] [WARNING]   Cannot create a head for an NPC (-16775107) that does not have a biped-head node.
2017/12/30 23:58:44  [00436925] [WARNING]   Model Load Error: Not a NIF file in .

Will use the default object Marker_Error.NIF.

 

So... anyone know what all that jazz means?

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Is there a scene that is suppose to start when you crash? Is your player wearing any clothes at that time? If they are try removing your clothing before hiding. What do you have all installed?

 

SMClothesChange must be about removing or putting on or changing clothing.

 

What do you have all installed? It is best not to have much installed when playing this as many things can conflict.

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The "hide behind the rock " scene.

The player can wear anything he wants or can be nude, the player clothes will not be changed.

 

All the warnings/errors messages are about the NPC,  the woman who is supposed to masturbate.

She gets a new Package, must undress, equip a dildo,...

 

I think you have not installed all files .

You have a missing mesh  :  2017/12/30 23:58:44  [00436925] [WARNING]   Model Load Error: Not a NIF file in .   Will use the default object Marker_Error.NIF.

 

And :

2017/12/30 23:58:43  [005170B1] [WARNING]   Unable to find function definition for command 0 in script 'xLoversCheckObse2QuestScript'.

Do you have OBSE installed? and is it working?

 

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On 12/31/2017 at 2:45 AM, fejeena said:

The "hide behind the rock " scene.

The player can wear anything he wants or can be nude, the player clothes will not be changed.

 

All the warnings/errors messages are about the NPC,  the woman who is supposed to masturbate.

She gets a new Package, must undress, equip a dildo,...

 

I think you have not installed all files .

You have a missing mesh  :  2017/12/30 23:58:44  [00436925] [WARNING]   Model Load Error: Not a NIF file in .   Will use the default object Marker_Error.NIF.

 

And :

2017/12/30 23:58:43  [005170B1] [WARNING]   Unable to find function definition for command 0 in script 'xLoversCheckObse2QuestScript'.

Do you have OBSE installed? and is it working?

 

 

Oh yes, OBSE is installed and working.  LoversPK/LAPF is working, for example, and yes, I have the LPK-VTOY patch.

 

As to the meshes... the mesh archive has exactly one file in it, Vtoy - Meshes.bsa, and that's installed (via Wrye Bash). 

 

To be more specific, I have installed these packages in this order:

CLS Gold MAIN esp

CLS Gold Meshes

CLS Gold MSV

CLS Gold Textures

Patch1 for Gold Edition

LKP-Vtoy

 

I have NOT installed the "Main Runtime," as it appears to be outdated skeletons that conflict with LAPF, Ely's USV (which I installed seperately), SoundCommands (which I installed seperately), and Windom Earle_s Oblivion Crash Prevention System, which the mod author hid long ago and advised it not actually be used.

On 12/31/2017 at 1:20 AM, gregathit said:

Try posting your full load order.

Do you know how to do that from Wrye Bash?  I've googled it, but all of the guides seem to be outdated, as they want me to click on stuff that simply doesn't seem to exist in current builds.

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Have you read my yellow Link below?

 

No Lovers Mods and CLS in your BashedPatch ! Deactivate all, rebuild your bashedPatch , then activate loves and CLS esm and esp again.

 

But the missing mesh warning : 2017/12/30 23:58:44  [00436925] [WARNING]   Model Load Error: Not a NIF file in .   Will use the default object Marker_Error.NIF.

You must have installed some files in the wrong folders or the files are not installed.

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1 hour ago, fejeena said:

Have you read my yellow Link below?

 

No Lovers Mods and CLS in your BashedPatch ! Deactivate all, rebuild your bashedPatch , then activate loves and CLS esm and esp again.

 

But the missing mesh warning : 2017/12/30 23:58:44  [00436925] [WARNING]   Model Load Error: Not a NIF file in .   Will use the default object Marker_Error.NIF.

You must have installed some files in the wrong folders or the files are not installed.

LoversSituations contains changes to NPC AI packages that would be otherwise discarded if not included in a Bashed Patch.  I removed that mod though, as I couldn't get quests to end correctly in any event.  So I can try that, sure.

 

As to installing in wrong folders, I don't see how that is possible.  I used Wrye Bash.  The only mesh files appear to be coming from the CLS - Meshes BSA, and that is in my /data directory, right where it belongs.  There are no loose meshes, save the deprecated skeletons I didn't install.  I would suspect the problem isn't so much that the meshes are missing as something is preventing them from loading.  I could be wrong though.

 

3 hours ago, gregathit said:

So you are telling me that the method I list here isn't working?  https://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/

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Oh  it is a Oblivion file :   [00436925] [WARNING]   Model Load Error: Not a NIF file in

00 is Oblivion esm.

I checked the Oblivion esm  ...but there is no 00436925

And I checked the Vtoy.esp but there is no 01436925

 

Now I don't know what's wrong in your game... sorry.

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But your LPK - Vtoy.esp is not activated  ( or in your bashedPatch).  Again: NEVER Lovers esp and esm in your Bashed Patch. And I think CLS also not in the BashedPatch.

 

 

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11 hours ago, fejeena said:

Oh  it is a Oblivion file :   [00436925] [WARNING]   Model Load Error: Not a NIF file in

00 is Oblivion esm.

I checked the Oblivion esm  ...but there is no 00436925

And I checked the Vtoy.esp but there is no 01436925

 

Now I don't know what's wrong in your game... sorry.

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But your LPK - Vtoy.esp is not activated  ( or in your bashedPatch).  Again: NEVER Lovers esp and esm in your Bashed Patch. And I think CLS also not in the BashedPatch.

 

 

 

LPK - Vtoy IS included in my Bashed Patch, as well as Vtoy. 

 

Per suggestion, I disabled Lovers with PK.esm and rebuilt my bashed patch.  It didn't change anything.

 

And I've looked over my Bashed Patch with TES4Edit, and saw no reason NOT to included Lovers mods into it - quite the opposite in fact, as some of those mods make changes that would be lost if not included in a bashed patch.  This is not my first rodeo.  Is there some actual reason not to include Lovers mods?  Because I see no obvious reason.

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I have something of a solution - I went and installed weOCPS.dll anyhow, which gets me past this crash (and it makes the ringing noise letting me know it has done so).  But the fact that I needed to do so tells me CLS in its current form is fundamentally broken, as weOCPS is explicitly a terrible idea.

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59 minutes ago, snarfies said:

I have something of a solution - I went and installed weOCPS.dll anyhow, which gets me past this crash (and it makes the ringing noise letting me know it has done so).  But the fact that I needed to do so tells me CLS in its current form is fundamentally broken, as weOCPS is explicitly a terrible idea.

 

CLS is getting old. For sure. It never did play all that well with Lovers.

 

Engine Bug Fix is proving to be my dll of choice. Although Crash Prevention still has some value as a warning device...you buggered your game-up...ding! 

https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/47085/

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Since I discovered LL and the Lovers Mods 2011 all install instructions say No Lovers Mods in the BashedPatch.
ALL Lovers Mods ! And all Tamago/Hiyoko Mods. ALL esp and esm.   ( But maybe people who play Lovers for many years do not know what they are talking about. :classic_wink:  )
 
The reason was , no script heavy Mods in the BashedPatch.

That's why I said also CLS  ( and all addon esp) not in the BashedPatch. CLS is script heavy; a own sex system, many scripted quest actions.

 

And I don't see a reason why CLS should be in the BashedPatch. In Tes4Edit I don't see a conflict with other Mods ( If you have CLS low in your Load order )
There is only one NPC : Nerussa in CLS that is also in LoversSituation.  But the changes in CLS are only "cosmetic". You can delete Nerussa in the CLS esp !!!!!
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6 hours ago, snarfies said:

 

LPK - Vtoy IS included in my Bashed Patch, as well as Vtoy. 

 

Per suggestion, I disabled Lovers with PK.esm and rebuilt my bashed patch.  It didn't change anything.

 

And I've looked over my Bashed Patch with TES4Edit, and saw no reason NOT to included Lovers mods into it - quite the opposite in fact, as some of those mods make changes that would be lost if not included in a bashed patch.  This is not my first rodeo.  Is there some actual reason not to include Lovers mods?  Because I see no obvious reason.

Good freaking grief.  Google a handful of my posts in the lovers tech support section and I state the reason over and over and over and over and over and over and over......IT BREAKS SCRIPTS!  Now if you are fine with your game running like shit and randomly crashing (and just generally behaving in a randomly crazy manner) then just feel free to ignore us and our advice.

 

NO HEAVILY SCRIPTED MODS SHOULD BE IN YOUR BASHED PATCH!!!  EVER!!!  Ignore this and you are on your own.  Disable ALL lovers esp and esm files (as well as CLS stuff) and rebuild your bashed patch, then start a new game.  Please also remember that we suggest a load order for lovers (and non lovers) mods.  This again comes from experience helping folks trouble shoot their games.  

 

CLS runs fine.  I've played it all the way through several times with the LAPF running alongside it.

 

Lastly, you are rocking a very hefty number of mods, something CLS clearly states as being a bad idea.  CLS is a very large mod, which overhauls a crap ton of stuff, and when you have overhauls competing with other overhauls, which are competing with still other overhauls, which are competing with still more overhauls........well, something is going to break.  We are talking about a very old game engine here.  The best advice would be to use MO (so you can have several mod setups) and simplify the shit out of your load order and play CLS on through and then uninstall it.  It is a ton of fun so it would be a shame if you missed out, but it should not be a mainstay of your LO.

 

Cheers,

Greg

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