Nisa’s Wicked Perversions

[naughtywulf]

Yeah, I think people just come in here and toss whatever output they are getting instead of scrolling up a little bit to see if maybe the problem was already addressed in the thread.

[cobra2001]

Still have broken Jealousy settings the mod is interfering with EA's romantic boundaries not respecting what each sim has set for themselves. You can turn it off entirely in WW but that defeats the purpose.

[Mia_D096]

I'm getting a problem where WW sex initiated by Nisa WW prostitution is causing the animation to not play in the correct sequence set by the author, it's playing it randomly, doesn't happen when I run a standard WW animation through WW options. I have "Full progression" selected in WW settings and I also have Nisa and all it's dependencies updated.

Edited August 15, 2024 by Mia_D096

[guiltyassin]

On 8/14/2024 at 9:02 AM, SlavSoul said:

For some reason clients never call my prostitute sim. I have call centre lot trait also but no calls. When I look on phone I have approx like 12 clients. My sim keeps saying things like "hurry up and bite you incels" and "seems like noone is interested" or "maybe if i dressed sluttier" even though Im wearing my hoeing outfit. sometimes after i sleep with client i get a text but noone ever calls. Any idea how I can fix this?

i have the same problem! have you managed to solve it somehow?

[GLaDiatrix]

I've been looking everywhere but can't find info about lot type for the call center. Can it be any? Can it be generic lot type AND an owned strip club? Well neither seem to work, generic or residential, I don't get an calls (yes I added the Call Center lot trait). I'm using last, 3_3ME version.

Edit: I dug out my old hoeing save and in that one call center doesn't work either :')

 

Edited August 15, 2024 by GLaDiatrix

[Ravanche]

4 hours ago, guiltyassin said:

i have the same problem! have you managed to solve it somehow?

I had this issue as well. After a search of my mod folder, found that another mod had installed it's own copy of Nisa's WP, which caused a conflict. After removing the older, out-of-date version the second mod installed, the call center trait works like a charm. So I would suggest doing a search of your own mods, see if something snuck parts of WP in (specifically the tuning file, but all of the secondary install needs to go).

[Ravanche]

7 hours ago, Mia_D096 said:

I'm getting a problem where WW sex initiated by Nisa WW prostitution is causing the animation to not play in the correct sequence set by the author, it's playing it randomly, doesn't happen when I run a standard WW animation through WW options. I have "Full progression" selected in WW settings and I also have Nisa and all it's dependencies updated.

Same issue here. Regular sex animations (ie started without Nisa's) progress as expected. Prostitution animation progression is completely randomized, even to categories deselected in the Putting Out menu.

EDIT: The issue is only with animations started by prostitute-initiated sex. Calls from existing clients works and progress as normal.

Edited August 15, 2024 by Ravanche
Addendum

[Dranok229]

hello, love this mod. I don't know when i lost the heart icon for trophy wife and broken mind. But it is not in the aspiration menu any more has this happened to anyone else? If so how can i fix it?

[tookachinchilla]

After laying eggs, my DotEH sim still looks pregnant (but is not in another pregnancy). Is there a way to reset this?

[Mia_D096]

12 hours ago, Ravanche said:

Same issue here. Regular sex animations (ie started without Nisa's) progress as expected. Prostitution animation progression is completely randomized, even to categories deselected in the Putting Out menu.

EDIT: The issue is only with animations started by prostitute-initiated sex. Calls from existing clients works and progress as normal.

Yeah, I can't really pinpoint where the issue is here. I don't have any mods that depend on Nisa except for GTG (Good Time Girls), but I tried removing that as well. I'm still having the same issue with the Nisa WP triggered animations.

 

I'm getting this exception from MCCC:

MCCC_exception.txt

Edited August 16, 2024 by Mia_D096

[hornylilith]

On 8/14/2024 at 5:35 AM, ace54858 said:

dx 11 can do that to mods not sure if your running dx 11 or not of course.

i'm playing with Dx9 checked in game options

 

[YHF1996]

Hello, for a while now the "Sex settings" doesn't appear for me even though I always make sure to update the mod. Did anyone else have the same issue or is there a fix for that?

[kurikinton]

Can anyone explain to me if this is the mod functioning as expected or if I'm experiencing a bug?

Basically, almost every single time when I have a sim "offer body" to another, then no matter what acts are performed and for how long, the following happens.

1. The event always ends with a dissatisfied customer, causing a reduction in friendship, again, no matter how long the event or what acts are performed.
2. The denotion of the customer as a "prostitution client" is not cleared.
3. I am able to instigate a second sex act with the client through the normal whicked whims menu. This second sex act usually ends in success and payment, and clears the client status.
4. If I have my sim approach another potential client, offer body, and start going at it while the first client is still highlited as an active client (with the in-the-group incon over their head), the first client joins in the sex. But the second client of course ends in dissatisfaction as per note #1. whereas the first client is finally satisfied and pays.

This sounds to me like a bug combined with unintended behavior versus certain Wicked Whims settings.

Incidentally, the bug highlights some gripes I have with the mod, which I will list here.

1. Not enough about the mod is configurable. Everything should be configurable, in the fashion of Wicked Whims itself.
2. The conditions under which a customer is "dissatisfied" should be configurable. It should NOT be tied to the particular animations played (which is really, really problematic) or the amount of time spent (everyone has different preferences about how long each encounter lasts and how long each animation lasts.)
3. If it's not possible to make dissatisfaction configurable, then it should be vastly nurfed. The time trigger should only occur when the sex is really short (one interrupted animation lasting a few seconds of real time for example), and the penalty should NOT be a drop of 100 friendship to nearly 0 friendship. It shouldn't be more than 50 points.
4. In fact, there probably doesn't need to even be a friendship penalty. Maybe the penalty could be that the client removes them from your sim's client list and the relationship is reset.
5. A high level of friendship or romance should not be required to "offer body", as it is not a requirement in the real world. The only things required in the real world are 1) physical attraction and 2) a certain amount of chemistry if the client is particularly sensitive. There are plenty of game mechanics and mods to measure physical attraction and chemistry. And yes, it should be configurable, not hard coded.
6. The mod should use the standard approach to accessing settings. Currently, if you click on settings from the cellphone menu, you have to sit through an animation of the sim using the cellphone that lasts several real world minutes. Then after accessing a single setting, the settings menu disappears and you have to start again. Instead it should simply borrow code from wicked whims which I'm sure is possible, and have a settings menu you can move back and forth in without closing it. Also, the menu should appear instantly when "settings" is selected, rather than making it be an actual action performed by the sims (again, just like Wicked Whims). Finallly, settings should be an option in the Ho Control sim menu, just like configuration for Wicked Whims is an option in the sim menu. There is no reason to hide it inside a cellphone/pc menu.

Ideally, the best way for the mod to work in my opinion is simply this:

1. Prostitute approaches potential client and offers body (as now, but with no need for a prior relationship).
2. Client accepts or refuses (as now).
3. Player manually chooses the acts and location for the sex
4. After climax, satisfaction/dissatisfaction, and any associated awards or penalties,  is determined 100% based on player configuration.

Automatically searching for and selecting a location can be left it if it can be toggled OFF. Because it seems the functionality of that feature is extremely buggy and unreliable.

Edited August 17, 2024 by kurikinton

[cobra2001]

A lot has been broken since the big update. You can sort of stop the automatic start by canceling the action before you reach the location provided the spot chosen is far enough away. None of the jealousy stuff works and you can't set starting to manual or automatic anymore. Right now just have to deal with it or turn jealousy off or remove the mod until it is fixed.

[pizzazz]

i have a son of the easter hare that laid an anal clutch but still has a deformed stomach, i can't do anything to get it to go away, is there a way to fix it?

[GLaDiatrix]

On 8/15/2024 at 4:29 PM, GLaDiatrix said:

I've been looking everywhere but can't find info about lot type for the call center. Can it be any? Can it be generic lot type AND an owned strip club? Well neither seem to work, generic or residential, I don't get an calls (yes I added the Call Center lot trait). I'm using last, 3_3ME version.

Edit: I dug out my old hoeing save and in that one call center doesn't work either :')

 

I removed all mods and tried the game with only WW, Drugs, and this mod and the call center doesn't work still

[Mia_D096]

On 8/15/2024 at 3:54 PM, Mia_D096 said:

I'm getting a problem where WW sex initiated by Nisa WW prostitution is causing the animation to not play in the correct sequence set by the author, it's playing it randomly, doesn't happen when I run a standard WW animation through WW options. I have "Full progression" selected in WW settings and I also have Nisa and all it's dependencies updated.

For now I'm just switching to WW 181b and WP LL_3_3mc because the latest versions of both of these are causing the above issue, these previous versions work quite well for me without any problems so I'll just wait for another version to come out.

[KeiraniS]

Im wanting to do the succubus stuff but Im not finding any horns or anything. Anywhere i can get these things to look like the fantastic pictures Nisa has in the pictures?!

[thirstyforsouls]

Getting this LE.

lastException.txt

[M73]

I can't seem to get this new version to work. Tried with just WW and nothing else and still won't work. Seems to that prostitutes have to offer out every time and are not approached (at least not sucessfully). Even the offering out is hit or miss. Also the call centre trait seems broken and whenever accept the client turns up, stands there for a few seconds, then heads home. The 'call centre client' label dissapears also. Not sure if this would be to do with new WW update or not.

[shorshor]

Hello, can someone please tell me how to register my sim to someone as a debt slave? it is not there in the lost eden web address. I’ve made her a doll to her Master in the house she shares with her Master, but I cannot make her a debt slave to a NPC. She is already a prostitute as well

 

EDIT:

Figured it out. 1st you have to create another household to be indebted to THEN go to a computer and then to the lost Eden’s page. Once that is settled, click on another Sim in your household to have as your “Master” and make them convert your debt slave into a Doll. Then, you want to set the relationship rules to prostitution to make her ho around

Edited August 20, 2024 by shorshor

[NisaK]

On 8/14/2024 at 3:57 PM, RadioactiveCandy said:

indeed there´re a lot of errors appear. welp gotta remove that mod remporarely

Nisas_Last_Exception.txt 2.53 MB · 4 downloads

This is a false positive with WP, not that there isn't an error occurring, there is, but it's not being caused by WP. Specifically, you have a custom trait installed with out of date tuning, preventing the trait from being fully loaded into the game. The only way to find the broken trait (since it's data isn't loaded into the game fully) is to do the 50/50 method.
 

On 8/14/2024 at 7:48 PM, cobra2001 said:

Still have broken Jealousy settings the mod is interfering with EA's romantic boundaries not respecting what each sim has set for themselves. You can turn it off entirely in WW but that defeats the purpose.

Noted! A fix will be out soon!
 

On 8/15/2024 at 5:54 AM, Mia_D096 said:

I'm getting a problem where WW sex initiated by Nisa WW prostitution is causing the animation to not play in the correct sequence set by the author, it's playing it randomly, doesn't happen when I run a standard WW animation through WW options. I have "Full progression" selected in WW settings and I also have Nisa and all it's dependencies updated.

On 8/15/2024 at 1:01 PM, Ravanche said:

Same issue here. Regular sex animations (ie started without Nisa's) progress as expected. Prostitution animation progression is completely randomized, even to categories deselected in the Putting Out menu.

EDIT: The issue is only with animations started by prostitute-initiated sex. Calls from existing clients works and progress as normal.

 

The last patch, LL.3.3me, should have addressed this. I'm aware there is still an issue with prostitution sex for automatically transitioning to Climax animations which I need to figure out a solution too, but your other animation progression sequences should work for valid animations. That is to say, if the client has asked for oral sex, then the animations should progress for oral sex animations.

If you manually switch to a none valid sex category, then this behavior is still there. I'm looking into a way to add a way for sims to autonomously switch back to valid animations along with setting to disable prostitution sex animation assistance for people who just want to do full manual with WW settings.
 

On 8/15/2024 at 8:29 AM, GLaDiatrix said:

I've been looking everywhere but can't find info about lot type for the call center. Can it be any? Can it be generic lot type AND an owned strip club? Well neither seem to work, generic or residential, I don't get an calls (yes I added the Call Center lot trait). I'm using last, 3_3ME version.

Edit: I dug out my old hoeing save and in that one call center doesn't work either :')

 

They can theoretically be placed anywhere, but keep in mind this is really meant to be a cheat item to help prostitutes grow their personal client list fast. I would use it for a few hours at a time, and only on public lots. I wouldn't use it on a lot where sims are heavily controlled, like on strip clubs. For using it on a residential lot, I would only use it for a few sim hours a day. 

 

On 8/15/2024 at 2:44 PM, Dranok229 said:

hello, love this mod. I don't know when i lost the heart icon for trophy wife and broken mind. But it is not in the aspiration menu any more has this happened to anyone else? If so how can i fix it?

Hmmm, check to see how deep your script files are installed? Pay special care to how deep you place my files in your mod folder. Script mods can't be further than 1 subfolder deep from the root (Mods) folder.   This means 'Documents / Electronic Arts / The Sims 4 / Mods / NisasWickedPerversions / files go here` is okay but 'Documents / Electronic Arts / The Sims 4 / Mods / Some Folder / NisasWickedPerversions / files go here` is not.  Also make sure you have the latest version of WW and Basemental drugs installed (the latest public/free versions are fine too) and if you are getting any Last Exception files (called LEs for short) then please send them my way.
 

On 8/15/2024 at 3:55 PM, tookachinchilla said:

After laying eggs, my DotEH sim still looks pregnant (but is not in another pregnancy). Is there a way to reset this?

I see two reports for this, I'll investigate. Are your DoEH sims Young Adults or older?
 

On 8/16/2024 at 10:43 PM, kurikinton said:

Can anyone explain to me if this is the mod functioning as expected or if I'm experiencing a bug?

Basically, almost every single time when I have a sim "offer body" to another, then no matter what acts are performed and for how long, the following happens.

1. The event always ends with a dissatisfied customer, causing a reduction in friendship, again, no matter how long the event or what acts are performed.
2. The denotion of the customer as a "prostitution client" is not cleared.
3. I am able to instigate a second sex act with the client through the normal whicked whims menu. This second sex act usually ends in success and payment, and clears the client status.
4. If I have my sim approach another potential client, offer body, and start going at it while the first client is still highlited as an active client (with the in-the-group incon over their head), the first client joins in the sex. But the second client of course ends in dissatisfaction as per note #1. whereas the first client is finally satisfied and pays.

This sounds to me like a bug combined with unintended behavior versus certain Wicked Whims settings.

Incidentally, the bug highlights some gripes I have with the mod, which I will list here.

1. Not enough about the mod is configurable. Everything should be configurable, in the fashion of Wicked Whims itself.
2. The conditions under which a customer is "dissatisfied" should be configurable. It should NOT be tied to the particular animations played (which is really, really problematic) or the amount of time spent (everyone has different preferences about how long each encounter lasts and how long each animation lasts.)
3. If it's not possible to make dissatisfaction configurable, then it should be vastly nurfed. The time trigger should only occur when the sex is really short (one interrupted animation lasting a few seconds of real time for example), and the penalty should NOT be a drop of 100 friendship to nearly 0 friendship. It shouldn't be more than 50 points.
4. In fact, there probably doesn't need to even be a friendship penalty. Maybe the penalty could be that the client removes them from your sim's client list and the relationship is reset.
5. A high level of friendship or romance should not be required to "offer body", as it is not a requirement in the real world. The only things required in the real world are 1) physical attraction and 2) a certain amount of chemistry if the client is particularly sensitive. There are plenty of game mechanics and mods to measure physical attraction and chemistry. And yes, it should be configurable, not hard coded.
6. The mod should use the standard approach to accessing settings. Currently, if you click on settings from the cellphone menu, you have to sit through an animation of the sim using the cellphone that lasts several real world minutes. Then after accessing a single setting, the settings menu disappears and you have to start again. Instead it should simply borrow code from wicked whims which I'm sure is possible, and have a settings menu you can move back and forth in without closing it. Also, the menu should appear instantly when "settings" is selected, rather than making it be an actual action performed by the sims (again, just like Wicked Whims). Finallly, settings should be an option in the Ho Control sim menu, just like configuration for Wicked Whims is an option in the sim menu. There is no reason to hide it inside a cellphone/pc menu.

Ideally, the best way for the mod to work in my opinion is simply this:

1. Prostitute approaches potential client and offers body (as now, but with no need for a prior relationship).
2. Client accepts or refuses (as now).
3. Player manually chooses the acts and location for the sex
4. After climax, satisfaction/dissatisfaction, and any associated awards or penalties,  is determined 100% based on player configuration.

Automatically searching for and selecting a location can be left it if it can be toggled OFF. Because it seems the functionality of that feature is extremely buggy and unreliable.

Thank you for taking the time to send me your feedback on the mod!!!

I agree with several of your points, especially with how prostitution satisfaction and romance/friendship currently works. I'm looking into ways to change this and I'm currently planning to move away from a sex category based prostitution satisfaction. That is to say, I don't like how clients pay for a specific sex category, rather than sex in general. Prostitution sex should be about balancing the client satisfaction with the length of time for the ongoing sex act. Satisfy the client too soon, sex ends quickly, you get a good review but paid less. Edge the client too long, the opposite can happen with the client ending unsatisfied. 

For now, if a client asks for oral sex, and another client asks for anal sex and you service both clients simultaneously, you have to have oral sex with the client asking for oral sex for at least 30 minutes in the group animation, and anal sex with the client asking for anal sex in the group animation for at least 30 minutes. You can click on your prostitute -> ho control -> check time to see how what your prostitute is doing is being tracked for purposes of payout.

On 8/18/2024 at 4:25 PM, thirstyforsouls said:

Getting this LE.

lastException.txt 3.12 kB · 2 downloads

Thank you for the LE!

This is a maxis error, specifically the LE is stating that the game is trying to read a matchmaking profile for a sim whose matchmaking profile doesn't exist. You can find more info about this base game error here along with possible workarounds: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/NEEDS-SAVES-LS-LastException-matchmaking-service-failed/td-p/13918425

[Ravid0g]

Hello,

 

I have all the mods and req. mods and when I go to the computer to do it research occult is missing from the options. How do I fix this?

[kurikinton]

23 hours ago, NisaK said:

Thank you for taking the time to send me your feedback on the mod!!!

I agree with several of your points, especially with how prostitution satisfaction and romance/friendship currently works. I'm looking into ways to change this and I'm currently planning to move away from a sex category based prostitution satisfaction. That is to say, I don't like how clients pay for a specific sex category, rather than sex in general. Prostitution sex should be about balancing the client satisfaction with the length of time for the ongoing sex act. Satisfy the client too soon, sex ends quickly, you get a good review but paid less. Edge the client too long, the opposite can happen with the client ending unsatisfied. 

For now, if a client asks for oral sex, and another client asks for anal sex and you service both clients simultaneously, you have to have oral sex with the client asking for oral sex for at least 30 minutes in the group animation, and anal sex with the client asking for anal sex in the group animation for at least 30 minutes. You can click on your prostitute -> ho control -> check time to see how what your prostitute is doing is being tracked for purposes of payout.

Hey, I just want to say thank you very much for your sincere reply to my rather blunt and possibly rude comment. 

I agree it might be better to move away from the basis on specific animation categories. 

Looking forward to seeing how the mod changes in the future!

[Mia_D096]

On 8/21/2024 at 5:41 AM, NisaK said:

The last patch, LL.3.3me, should have addressed this. I'm aware there is still an issue with prostitution sex for automatically transitioning to Climax animations which I need to figure out a solution too, but your other animation progression sequences should work for valid animations. That is to say, if the client has asked for oral sex, then the animations should progress for oral sex animations.

If you manually switch to a none valid sex category, then this behavior is still there. I'm looking into a way to add a way for sims to autonomously switch back to valid animations along with setting to disable prostitution sex animation assistance for people who just want to do full manual with WW settings.

On the previous versions for me at least, (since a lot of people aren't addressing this issue) the animations would progress based on the sequence set by the animation author but your mod would always consider the prostitution type in mind, i.e. oral/anal or vaginal, so if I select an animation set that has all oral animations and the sequence is also set by the author, it would play all the oraljob animations with the author's sequence till climax, but now with the latest version it doesn't matter which animation or prostitution type I pick, after the first animation it will always play it randomly. I'm sorry if I'm not able to explain it better, I don't know the technicalities of sims 4 modding, so I can't explain it in more detail unfortunately. I pretty sure you're working hard to improve your mod and your mod truly is the best, that's why I'm stressing this issue of mine so much, because I really enjoy this mod!