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25 minutes ago, Mars1991 said:

Let me be clear, i don't do that anymore, i was only actively approaching for a few months between ages of 21 and 22 (27 now) but what i am saying i am saying entirely from experience, i had more luck in those few months then in my entire life before, alto i never, as you would put it, dragged any girl to bed, just because i was not into one night stands. Not all men are the same, you are reading into my words something i never said, however vast majority of them share certain traits and experiences. I am not here to argue or prove i am right, i am just trying to explain how things look like on my end, you may not believe me, or think you know better, but i swear that what i am saying i did not pull out of thin air.

You didn't pull it out of thin air, but you use words like "majority" very loosely. It's not that your flat out wrong but that your data is too limited and based on too much bias. Much of it is based on popular misconceptions... Also your arguments on breasts and gender dimorphosm demonstrates a lack of credible knowledge on the subject. I could go into great lengths about it but I feel that would just be a disservice to both of us. 

 

Long story short, personal experience often means very little on a global scale.

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7 minutes ago, Sethster said:

I can see that there are ongoing arguments and conversations going on in this topic already, so I hope I won't be interrupting anything.. However, recently I've been quite bothered by one subject and I'm dying to hear some opinions from a female perspective, which is why I'm posting it here instead of making a new topic.

 

What do you ladies think of so-called "alpha", macho/heavily masculine guys? An overly confident man usually of muscular physique, who will walk inside a bar, acting as if he owns the place, lighting up a cig and ordering the finest bourbon, scaring "little boys" away with his serious presence. No, I'm not talking about an abusive piece of shit who treats women like crap, brags about all the vaginas he got inside and only cares about his biceps.. instead, I'm talking about men with that cocky/dangerous aura who spread the dominant masculine energy, as if they have a "DO NOT F WITH ME" tattoo on their forehead. 

 

Do any of you find it attractive? Sexy? Is there a certain charm (?) that these macho/alpha guys possess which women find hot?

 

Finally, for the sake of not making this strictly about sex, separate it from those "dominant alpha male" sexual fantasies, which may appear in some of your dirty minds, porn, games and such. INSTEAD, focus on this guy's character, as if you are seeing him at this very moment, walking up and sitting next to you in the bar. 

Really looking forward to some answers. Hope my subject is interesting enough to spark up a conversation. Cheers! 

To be fair, while this is the exact kind of personality and presence that will initially make me cautious of someone, it's also the same traits I'd want in a casual friend or acquaintance. That's the kinda guy you wanna be on a first name basis with, even if you're not likely to ever really hang out or such.

 

22 minutes ago, Mars1991 said:

Let me be clear, i don't do that anymore, i was only actively approaching for a few months between ages of 21 and 22 (27 now) but what i am saying i am saying entirely from experience, i had more luck in those few months then in my entire life before, alto i never, as you would put it, dragged any girl to bed, just because i was not into one night stands. Not all men are the same, you are reading into my words something i never said, however vast majority of them share certain traits and experiences. I am not here to argue or prove i am right, i am just trying to explain how things look like on my end, you may not believe me, or think you know better, but i swear that what i am saying i did not pull out of thin air.

You probably had success because you flirted in situations where it was expected. It likely wouldn't have mattered how you flirted, so much as you approached someone who was ready for that to happen.

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1 hour ago, Sethster said:

I can see that there are ongoing arguments and conversations going on in this topic already, so I hope I won't be interrupting anything.. However, recently I've been quite bothered by one subject and I'm dying to hear some opinions from a female perspective, which is why I'm posting it here instead of making a new topic.

 

What do you ladies think of so-called "alpha", macho/heavily masculine guys? An overly confident man usually of muscular physique, who will walk inside a bar, acting as if he owns the place, lighting up a cig and ordering the finest bourbon, scaring "little boys" away with his serious presence. No, I'm not talking about an abusive piece of shit who treats women like crap, brags about all the vaginas he got inside and only cares about his biceps.. instead, I'm talking about men with that cocky/dangerous aura who spread the dominant masculine energy, as if they have a "DO NOT F WITH ME" tattoo on their forehead. 

 

Do any of you find it attractive? Sexy? Is there a certain charm (?) that these macho/alpha guys possess which women find hot?

 

Finally, for the sake of not making this strictly about sex, separate it from those "dominant alpha male" sexual fantasies, which may appear in some of your dirty minds, porn, games and such. INSTEAD, focus on this guy's character, as if you are seeing him at this very moment, walking up and sitting next to you in the bar. 

Really looking forward to some answers. Hope my subject is interesting enough to spark up a conversation and if so, I may consider making this an entire new topic where everyone can freely talk about it. Cheers! 

Officially I'm gay... (Bisexual Homoromantic but it's easier just to say gay) but I'll participate =3 Honestly it's circumstantial... Really Dominant is sexy when it's paired with a great personality. An air of strength and violence, but will crack a joke and generally get along with people... Not just friendly to women and a dick to other men, but a generally decent guy who isn't afraid to lay down the law when it's needed. 

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2 hours ago, Sethster said:

I can see that there are ongoing arguments and conversations going on in this topic already, so I hope I won't be interrupting anything.. However, recently I've been quite bothered by one subject and I'm dying to hear some opinions from a female perspective, which is why I'm posting it here instead of making a new topic.

 

What do you ladies think of so-called "alpha", macho/heavily masculine guys? An overly confident man usually of muscular physique, who will walk inside a bar, acting as if he owns the place, lighting up a cig and ordering the finest bourbon, scaring "little boys" away with his serious presence. No, I'm not talking about an abusive piece of shit who treats women like crap, brags about all the vaginas he got inside and only cares about his biceps.. instead, I'm talking about men with that cocky/dangerous aura who spread the dominant masculine energy, as if they have a "DO NOT F WITH ME" tattoo on their forehead. 

 

Do any of you find it attractive? Sexy? Is there a certain charm (?) that these macho/alpha guys possess which women find hot?

 

Finally, for the sake of not making this strictly about sex, separate it from those "dominant alpha male" sexual fantasies, which may appear in some of your dirty minds, porn, games and such. INSTEAD, focus on this guy's character, as if you are seeing him at this very moment, walking up and sitting next to you in the bar. 

Really looking forward to some answers. Hope my subject is interesting enough to spark up a conversation and if so, I may consider making this an entire new topic where everyone can freely talk about it. Cheers! 

Want my honest opinion? Of course you do, seems you are looking for the honest truth, respectable.

Honestly, I would probably just ignore it. Why? I find extremely masculine anything disgusting and too much for me. Another reason why, not even remotely attracted to males to begin with. How you described said male, seems more of the slang, "meat head", person who spends too much time in the gym. Kudos to the theoretical person taking care of their body, but like with anything, it can be over done. Over all, the person if I were even remotely bisexual or straight, would turn me off. So no, I don't find this type of person attractive.

On another note unrelated to this quote above:

I see there is an on-going debate on the topic of men and women. Seems to be the control basis of it all to begin with. If you would like, I would like to steer it with a different perspective. People make choices based on their desires, wants, needs and etc. Both men and women. However, basing a control variability on what you have been through in life doesn't hold any merit in my opinion. Here is why. Break it down, fundamentally even if you are the age of 30, met 100,000 women in that time span, it's not a good basis to even fit a majority. Why is that? Because when you break it down further, roughly 7.1 billion people in the world, even divided in half, 100,000 people would not even show up in a pie chart. The sliver would be so small, it would be unnoticeable. It sucks that your over-all experiences for some of you has trickled down to this notion, but, I can understand in the same light. From your perspective this is the result of a cause. For another person though, they could have nothing but good things to say. This includes both men and women. However, placing women in a vast loose fitting majority would be like a feminist saying they don't like men because all men are douche kanoes. [Yes, I used that, it was fitting and hoping to give a little laugh in there. Hopefully. Probably not, terrible joke.]

Never the less, fundamentally, it is what it is. :3

Back to the...........debate? Things? Fap material? I dunno, y'all do you. XD

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30 minutes ago, Zombified said:


I see there is an on-going debate on the topic of men and women. Seems to be the control basis of it all to begin with. If you would like, I would like to steer it with a different perspective. People make choices based on their desires, wants, needs and etc. Both men and women. However, basing a control variability on what you have been through in life doesn't hold any merit in my opinion. Here is why. Break it down, fundamentally even if you are the age of 30, met 100,000 women in that time span, it's not a good basis to even fit a majority. Why is that? Because when you break it down further, roughly 7.1 billion people in the world, even divided in half, 100,000 people would not even show up in a pie chart. The sliver would be so small, it would be unnoticeable. It sucks that your over-all experiences for some of you has trickled down to this notion, but, I can understand in the same light. From your perspective this is the result of a cause. For another person though, they could have nothing but good things to say. This includes both men and women. However, placing women in a vast loose fitting majority would be like a feminist saying they don't like men because all men are douche kanoes. [Yes, I used that, it was fitting and hoping to give a little laugh in there. Hopefully. Probably not, terrible joke.]
 

Don't forget that humans are individualistic by nature, which makes any blanket statement false, and the wider the blanket the less accurate the statement... And half the population of earth is a pretty wide blanket. Plus everyone is an exception to atleast one statistic. You have to understand the limits of your own mind to picture things and understand that just because something makes sense or you've experienced something, it doesn't make it true. It's like trying to picture 7 billion different marbles at the same time... To make the task easier your brain will attempt to group "similar" marbles together and you'll end up picturing like 7 groups of marbles, all containing the same colour. You have to keep in mind that's not reality, in reality there are no groups, just a fucking messy ocean of marbles... When people forget that and start assigning attributes to these fictional groups you end up with concepts like racism, sexism, nationalism, etc. 

 

Also it's possible to just picture one massive group... And assigning characteristics to that group which is where you get misanthropes and the like, saying that humanity is scum... Or the opposite... At the end of the day it's impossible to picture each individual marble, and there in lies the fundamental problem... Because humanity isn't a group of marbles, but 7 billion individual marbles. Its beyond what you are physically capable of picturing. 

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it seems sorta strange that this topic has boiled down to.... what ever you wanna call this (what the person yer after likes? what the differences between genders are? in dunno) but in my, slightly nerdy, opinion it should be, for at the moment at least, about talking about bad dirty jokes, stories about being a female or playing with a female in video games and just about general chat bout geek culture. just a thought, mull it over at least ;).

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Yeah it's sorta silly getting deep into the nature of humanity when there is an ad with a harpy girl literally being fucked by dicks with wings next to the posts XD

 

So change of subject on the same topic then... Worst "approached" stories? I once had a guy tell me he was gonna "put his dick inside my clit." When I politely told him that the clit wasn't an entrance... He informed me that he was a "professional expert on pussies," and that I didnt know what I was talking about. He then accused me of being a guy irl because I didn't know that the clit was actually a hole...

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45 minutes ago, Snowrune said:

Don't forget that humans are individualistic by nature, which makes any blanket statement false, and the wider the blanket the less accurate the statement... And half the population of earth is a pretty wide blanket. Plus everyone is an exception to atleast one statistic. You have to understand the limits of your own mind to picture things and understand that just because something makes sense or you've experienced something, it doesn't make it true. It's like trying to picture 7 billion different marbles at the same time... To make the task easier your brain will attempt to group "similar" marbles together and you'll end up picturing like 7 groups of marbles, all containing the same colour. You have to keep in mind that's not reality, in reality there are no groups, just a fucking messy ocean of marbles... When people forget that and start assigning attributes to these fictional groups you end up with concepts like racism, sexism, nationalism, etc. 

 

Also it's possible to just picture one massive group... And assigning characteristics to that group which is where you get misanthropes and the like, saying that humanity is scum... Or the opposite... At the end of the day it's impossible to picture each individual marble, and there in lies the fundamental problem... Because humanity isn't a group of marbles, but 7 billion individual marbles. Its beyond what you are physically capable of picturing. 

Hence why I said, fundamentally, it is what it is. I mean, we can try. However, when you break it down, it's not just the labels and categories that random individual place on us, however, but also we have to realize, we categorize ourselves on top of it. Every time you state that you are gay, bisexual, etc.........you place yourself into a category of "marbles". While your thought still stands true, even those marbles are different in themselves, you can't help but think, maybe for just a split second, some humans place themselves in that position. However, I believe that was stated to begin with.

On a happier note, lets use Tye-dye marbles. :D

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1 hour ago, Snowrune said:

"put his dick inside my clit."

The big question still remains: Where do those guys have pinned their "Don't talk to me, it won't make it any better" name tag? ?

It would be very convenient if there would be a common rule for that, just to avoid wasting time...

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1 hour ago, worik said:

The big question still remains: Where do those guys have pinned their "Don't talk to me, it won't make it any better" name tag? ?

It would be very convenient if there would be a common rule for that, just to avoid wasting time...

My question is how many girls did he make that same claim to before he got to me? And how many did it actually work on? XD 

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Good to hear that the majority of you aren't attracted to it. Special shout-out to TheWhite, great statements.

 

The reason why I even brought this subject up was because of how often I see all these gorgeous women seeking out "alpha" males, and once I had a conversation with one of them online, her answer on why she fancies such cocky, dangerous men was.. rather disappointing, to say the least - "It's sexy. I love guys who will scare the other guys away from himself and us, and make me feel like I'm protected at all times", which left me confused. How is it sexy to scare other people away? What makes you think this guy would even protect you? Because he packs muscle and sits alone, as if no one is worthy of his company? What's the deal? Is it a completely sexual attraction, because a fair majority of females are submissive (props to the dominant ladies) and believe that this type of men can deliver their ultimate daddy/girl fantasies? I really have no clue at this point. I can't see the appeal in any field except sex, and even that's up for discussion.

 

Keep in mind, I'm from US. I believe that most of you aren't as exposed to this type of people as often as me, although I may be dead wrong, which is why I started this subject in a forum that's filled with unique people from all over the world.

 

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10 hours ago, Mars1991 said:

Let me be clear, i don't do that anymore, i was only actively approaching for a few months between ages of 21 and 22 (27 now) but what i am saying i am saying entirely from experience, i had more luck in those few months then in my entire life before...

Oh well, it just gave you a totally new experience, self-confidence made to measure. And that's already the secret of success. A machoman, however, is never self-confident, that's why he prefers the backing of an applauding boy group to perform his 'hold my beer and watch me' show, the only ten-penny show in his repertoire.

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A thread wherein 50 shades of grey is the manual by which humanity is saved from extinction, or also there's exactly one way that humans ever converse or interact which each other as invented and perfected by someone whom has been alive about 25 years or so, and thus is a total expert, take your pick.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Sethster said:

Good to hear that the majority of you aren't attracted to it. Special shout-out to TheWhite, great statements.

 

The reason why I even brought this subject up was because of how often I see all these gorgeous women seeking out "alpha" males, and once I had a conversation with one of them online, her answer on why she fancies such cocky, dangerous men was.. rather disappointing, to say the least - "It's sexy. I love guys who will scare the other guys away from himself and us, and make me feel like I'm protected at all times", which left me confused. How is it sexy to scare other people away? What makes you think this guy would even protect you? Because he packs muscle and sits alone, as if no one is worthy of his company? What's the deal? Is it a completely sexual attraction, because a fair majority of females are submissive (props to the dominant ladies) and believe that this type of men can deliver their ultimate daddy/girl fantasies? I really have no clue at this point. I can't see the appeal in any field except sex, and even that's up for discussion.

 

Keep in mind, I'm from US. I believe that most of you aren't as exposed to this type of people as often as me, although I may be dead wrong, which is why I started this subject in a forum that's filled with unique people from all over the world.

 

Correct me if I am wrong, however, I think both men and women alike want to feel protected. However, some women feel as though they want the false sense of security. Such as when an alpha male scares away other men, that woman of course sometimes is attracted to them sexually. You ever wonder why everyone has a certain aspect they are attracted to? Almost like a natural instinct to be attracted. However, just like female species that become fully attracted towards a male after the male establishes Dominance in the wild, it's not fully understood. Only way that I think you could ever find the answer, is to ask the female whom is attracted to this type of male.

I can't say much in this aspect. I lack the muscular physique for a female, but I exhibit a large amount of Dominance. Give you bit of a story, my girlfriend was attracted to me because of this Dominance, but not only just that, but the fact that I do respect other people as I speak to them, no matter how much they annoy or upset me. Do I make her feel protected? Yes, probably because of my possessive side. [Whole, what is mine, is mine take. I know, not exactly a great quality in a person, can be over-done and have done it.] However, emotionally, she feels loved along with her daughter feeling loved. On top of that, yes, the sexual aspects are completely indulged, along with the Mommy/Little relationship we have in our relationship that a lot of people don't see. [I live in a place in America that..........finds this taboo. Mostly because they see it as incest.] However, long story short, sort of similar aspect to what you have stated and hopefully can give you some idea that it's not always sexual.

Now, don't get me started on the Daddy/little that some people are in. I'm not against it at all, but some of these people don't understand what it means to have a relationship like that. Rather bothers me.

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On 7/4/2018 at 11:56 AM, Resdayn said:

I wonder, do lesbians like girls with unremovable strapon? ☺️

You mean transgender girls? Most lesbians are not going to be judgmental about that. Whether or not they are "into" that, it's definitely not something that most people would exclude potential partners over.

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15 hours ago, stargatedalek said:

You mean transgender girls? Most lesbians are not going to be judgmental about that. Whether or not they are "into" that, it's definitely not something that most people would exclude potential partners over.

I see thanks for the answer.

 

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I am pleasantly surprised as to how many women occupy this heavenly webspace of ours. It makes for more variety, that's for sure.

One thing I gotta know though. Ladies, any or all of you feel free to answer this, I won't blanket statement across all of you off one person.

 

How do you deal with the "OMG a grill!!!" types in game?

I can imagine it could be quite frustrating, being typecast as supposedly being "bad at games" and all that other stereotypical nonsense. I don't have an online/gaming savvy family like me so I'd love to learn your experiences or points of view!

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4 minutes ago, Oburael said:

I am pleasantly surprised as to how many women occupy this heavenly webspace of ours. It makes for more variety, that's for sure.

One thing I gotta know though. Ladies, any or all of you feel free to answer this, I won't blanket statement across all of you off one person.

 

How do you deal with the "OMG a grill!!!" types in game?

I can imagine it could be quite frustrating, being typecast as supposedly being "bad at games" and all that other stereotypical nonsense. I don't have an online/gaming savvy family like me so I'd love to learn your experiences or points of view!

It really depends. Most guys are just surprised and then move on with the game, though occasionally (and more often in the past) they follow up with "you must clearly be a dude pretending to be a girl" or "you must be a slut trying to seduce men by posing as a nerd/gamer".

 

From there I typically ask someone to stop, and if they don't either I try to fuck with them back, or if it's really genuinely vile shit and not just obnoxious I report them and move on.

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15 minutes ago, Oburael said:

How do you deal with the "OMG a grill!!!" types in game?

I can imagine it could be quite frustrating, being typecast as supposedly being "bad at games" and all that other stereotypical nonsense. I don't have an online/gaming savvy family like me so I'd love to learn your experiences or points of view!

Not a girl but I thought I'd point out the whole "you're a girl so you must be bad" trope really isn't all that common in the online gaming community. I played MMOs for years as well various other online games and never once encountered a player who held that position. Though I'm sure there are certain communities that act that way, particularly ones that are dominated by teenage boys. As they will shamelessly hurl any insult they can think of if they think it will get under an opponent's skin.

 

Now the whole "OMG a girl!" and getting a bit clingy? I've seen quite a bit of that, including some pretty creepy shit...

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