Grumpf Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 Oh. Yeah you probably have a mod that takes control over your character. Do you use anything that could have a script running in the background forcing idles/equipment/clothing on you? You player should totally disappear and a clone will replace you in the scene.
lolicatgirls9 Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 I shouldn't have any mods that do that. The only one I can think of that would cause problems is Cursed Armor, but my character isn't even doing that quest, so there shouldn't be any issues whatsoever. I mean, would any of the mods I listed do that? I have no clue what's causing the problem. So I guess that means I just have to keep disabling mods until I figure out what the problem is, huh?
Grumpf Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 Well let say that if you disable everything as a test and suddenly it works you'll unfortunately have to search who's the culprit. But if by disabling everything it still doesn't work then we have a savegame issue or cached/hardcode one. Try it and if it's one of your mod, I'll ask DragonAviator to help you identify the possible conflict, he's more expert than I regarding conflcits. Cheers!
lolicatgirls9 Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 Well here's something. While experimenting with mods, I found my clone. As you can barely see from the attached image, she's just standing over somewhere else. I tried seeing if pickidle would work on her, but nope. I've noticed that sometimes she's standing there, and sometimes she's standing somewhere else, the same distance away from Lisbeth but in a different area. I'm not sure if that helps with solving our mystery here, but I figured it might be worth mentioning.
Grumpf Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 What it tells us is that there should be something on her preventing the animation to trigger. Kill her and search her body. The Vtoy_F_Camera_Nude subfunction can't remove quest items, you may have something hidden equipped from another mod. If your character isn't free, type "enableplayercontrols" in the console and remove equipped invisibility, click on your clone and type "kill". Search the body and tell me if you found something. Your savegame worked for me so it's not the savegmae it must be a conflict.
lolicatgirls9 Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Okay, I've killed the clone and, in her inventory, I found a womb. And that, of course, would be from Tamago. So I guess simply disabling the Tamago mods for the time being would be the solution, yes? I'm going to try that out and see if it works.
Grumpf Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Then unfortunately you have no choice but to disable everything and try again...
lolicatgirls9 Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 I see. Well, at least I've got a lead... I think it has something to do with the Cursed Armor quest. Not sure why it would, but it shows up in my factions list.
lolicatgirls9 Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 I have good news and mediocre news. Mediocre news: I still haven't figured out what's causing the conflict Good news: I found a way to start the animations. By simply interacting with my clone and then exiting the interaction mode (as I am still in control during the scene), she will cast her spell and the animation will start. I'll still be trying to figure out what the conflict is (it's not cursed armor, by the way), but this will serve as a temporary solution, and I will be able to continue the quest.
Grumpf Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Ok. You have two tools: evaluatepackage and pickidle. Click on the actor and try one of them it should lower your delay...
lolicatgirls9 Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Ah, thank you. evaluatepackage eliminates the weirdness of having to talk to my clone.
lolicatgirls9 Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 Hey, one more question (for now): I've heard it has been recommended that CLS be uninstalled immediately after completion. Is there any particular reason why? I'm mainly wondering because... well, ever since installing this mod, I've been having trouble with certain doors. Doors that I can no longer enter for some reason. Specifically, one in Leyawiin Castle that I can't get through, and I really need to so I can complete a certain Thieves Guild quest. There's that door, and then there's a door to an Ayleid Ruin right out front of the IC. Another thing I've noticed is that I can't accept contracts for the Dark Brotherhood. I started that quest recently, and it says I need to talk to Evilguy McKillsomedudes for contracts (yeah, I don't remember his name), but there's no topic for it when I talk to him, just rumors - and all the sex stuff of course. For all I know this could just as well be another mod causing the problem, but I figure I'd ask since I'd heard about the uninstalling CLS immediately after completion and thought that the reason may be issues with various things.
Grumpf Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 Hi Lolicatgirls9, I don't think CLS can cause trouble with that so it's probably another mod. On the other hand, if you give me precise location (cell name) and names (click on the door in the console to give me their ID) I wouldn't mind checking myself. I recommend deleting CLS because there's no way to go on playing after you're done. I want CLS to be a complete story and I always found Bethesda's way of making your toon savior of the known world go on accepting contract to be a thief highly moronic... So when you'll finally become Pope for the Goddess, you won. You are a big important person and you can't goof off crawling dungeons anymore. I can say more but I don't want to spoil CH4. So in short: Give me id & loc and I'll check, no uninstalling CLS is because of my personal taste not bugs! Cheers!!!
lolicatgirls9 Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 Okay, here's the door's code: "Wooden Door" (00048e2f) Located at Castle Leyawiin Basement (00048BD5) Basically what happened was I unlocked it, and that's when the game is supposed to send me through the door. But it didn't. I tried interacting with the door, but no dice. And there's one thing that feels a bit... off. Object Ownership: People who live in Private Quarters I don't know, that seems like a strange label to me. If this mod isn't causing problems, then my next suspect is Cursed Armor - which I will definitely be dumping after the completion of that quest. Maybe. Oh, and apparently I lied about having just one more question. I currently only have CLS 1 & 2 installed from the OMOD. If I install CLS 3, is that going to install as a separate quest or will it work its way into the CLS questline?
Grumpf Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 Yo. Nope, CLS didn't modified this cell. This door (I assume your dyslexic self meant 48DB5 ) is not scripted neither does it have ownership (it's cell inherited) so it must be another mod. Check with Tes4edit which of your mod modifies this cell. For the last one; you should uninstall the omod, load your game, accept the warning save and install CLS3 in order to clear everything from CH1&2. Unfortunately, CH1 to 3 is not compatible with CH1&2 so you'll have to start again. I can help you go faster by cheating a bit to quickly skip to CH3 but I modified some of the aspect of CH2 you may want to try for yourself. If you want to cheat a bit, tell me what you intend to do as advancing with setstage will not work, CLS has many interactive scripts that will easy be fucked up. Cheers!!!
lolicatgirls9 Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 Huh. As Marcus Fenix would say: GOD DAMN SON OF A BITCH Well, at least I haven't gotten THAT far... As for the door, I checked again, and the location actually is 48BD5. So I'm not sure what's going on there, but I'll see what I can do with Tes4edit. Dyslexia was a good guess, though. Thanks for the help. Edit: Okay, so now I need soundcommand.dll, or I can't even play the game itself. I have no clue where I'm supposed to find this thing.
cyb3r Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 it's on the download page of cls lolicat ^^ edit it's the runtime one ^^
lolicatgirls9 Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 Aye, there it is. Thanks. Now, let's see if I can go for a full five minutes without having issues... EDIT: HA! I knew it! It WAS that damned Cursed Armor mod that was modifying the door in the Leyawiin Castle Basement! EDIT 2: So I loaded up my CLS character and checked my journal so I could make sure CLS installed (more like reintsalled) correctly, and it turns out that I didn't lose my progress in the quest! I'm having a good day today.
Grumpf Posted December 24, 2011 Posted December 24, 2011 No no no, listen to the doctor buddy, do NOT use your old savegame! Won't work, trust me.
lolicatgirls9 Posted December 24, 2011 Posted December 24, 2011 W... wait... wha... OHHHHHHHHHHHHH shit. Okay, NOW I get it. I thought I just had to restart the quest, not restart from scratch. ...I suppose it really isn't a big deal. I mean, I hadn't really made any sort of progress anywhere except for in CLS, so I guess it's alright. Well then, here I go again!
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