TheGuardDuck Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, TwilightStorm said: Passion rejects when 2 sims don't know each other. If 2 sims are strangers or the bare known is a rejection reason. The more they know each other the less the possibility of rejection. Ok, that, that right there... How much do they need to know my sim? There was a flirty male that I was seducing with my flirty teen girl, and she kisses him, makes out, jumps into arms, has the option to use regular woohoo, but still refused passion. I actually got him in the shower of the gym we were at with regular woohoo, but he still refused passion. The relationship bar was a good size, maybe around half full? How high does it need to be for passion? Could it have to do with him being an adult and my girls being teens? Could it just be a problem with teens? I tried to seduce some teen girls who thought my girls were hot, and they too refused. I have no idea why that one black adult was the only one.
TwilightStorm Posted February 13, 2019 Author Posted February 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, TheGuardDuck said: Ok, that, that right there... How much do they need to know my sim? There was a flirty male that I was seducing with my flirty teen girl, and she kisses him, makes out, jumps into arms, has the option to use regular woohoo, but still refused passion. I actually got him in the shower of the gym we were at with regular woohoo, but he still refused passion. The relationship bar was a good size, maybe around half full? How high does it need to be for passion? Could it have to do with him being an adult and my girls being teens? Could it just be a problem with teens? I tried to seduce some teen girls who thought my girls were hot, and they too refused. I have no idea why that one black adult was the only one. Teens have an EA rule about romantic events. This rule says that a teen gets romantic interactions when it's at the 50% of its teen life span. You can unlock this rule with Woohooer (see an unlock EA rule for teens option). Passion gives erotic interactions at teen day 1 but the autonomy still follows this rule.
TheGuardDuck Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 No, no, I got them romancing. My teen succeeded in romancing the adult man, got him to woohoo in the shower, but he still refused to do passion when she asked him, several times.
TwilightStorm Posted February 13, 2019 Author Posted February 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, TheGuardDuck said: No, no, I got them romancing. My teen succeeded in romancing the adult man, got him to woohoo in the shower, but he still refused to do passion when she asked him, several times. This woohoo was ordered? or it was autonomous? You can order a woohoo with passion but this does not unlock the rule. Sims 3 autonomy still prevents it. The only way to see it this rule is active is to click on the teen and see if there is a romantic menu on it. If not the rule in on.
Guest Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 30 minutes ago, TheGuardDuck said: No, no, I got them romancing. My teen succeeded in romancing the adult man, got him to woohoo in the shower, but he still refused to do passion when she asked him, several times. Make sure Woohooer's Autonomy is turned on. If you have Woohooer's Scoring module that can bring in a bunch of variables that can make sims more self-conscience of their surroundings especially if in public. You could also have a bunch of naturally self-conscience sims even without Woohooer's Scoring module so go into Passion's Setting and turn off Rejection.
sim333 Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 On 2/12/2019 at 9:22 AM, TwilightStorm said: Outfit Changer has the following outfit options Hi;) Have you thought of updating your Changer? MC Nraas allows to add layers of clothing that Changer does not see. Not Feng Shui this:(
Guest Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, sim333 said: Hi;) Have you thought of updating your Changer? MC Nraas allows to add layers of clothing that Changer does not see. Not Feng Shui this:( That could be done. But one major problem that would make Nraas MC a requirement and not everyone uses MC or wants to use it, if they stuff that into their mods folder without MC it'll crash their game. Then we would have deal with angry people wondering why their game keeps crashing.
sim333 Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 39 minutes ago, namaradus said: That could be done. But one major problem that would make Nraas MC a requirement and not everyone uses MC or wants to use it, if they stuff that into their mods folder without MC it'll crash their game. Then we would have deal with angry people wondering why their game keeps crashing. Hmm. I did not know that these layers creates Nraas and they are not in a clean game. But I think their absence is somehow possible to determine and do not refer to it. Sorry, I proceed only from the fact that the programmer is God and he can do everything))).
MrsSanta Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 Hi Storm! I played a tiny bit yesterday, and returning today this error pops up: As i have clicked on reset and reset all of type it goes away only to return seconds later? I can't delete any sim and having tried all the other options i just don't know what i can do Do i have to reset town as i did when i first started the game yesterday+passion reset as i always do when i have a new version? Or do i have to quit to desktop and go back to the previous version? the only change i did was to take out Sims3CensorEffectDisabled.package as i read that it could conflict with the one i have from Nraas. I had not noticed any conflict but to be better safe than sorry i did! A sidenote haing pregnancy set to 3 % i now have 3 teens and 1 youngadult pregnant will have to set it to 0, or the game will be overrun by babies ? Edit: Reset passion did the trick, i also turned of pregnancy in passion and with that the condoms are not neccesary as i don't use std. Have than played 10 min more and all is well? Weird
TheGuardDuck Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 6 hours ago, TwilightStorm said: This woohoo was ordered? or it was autonomous? You can order a woohoo with passion but this does not unlock the rule. Sims 3 autonomy still prevents it. The only way to see it this rule is active is to click on the teen and see if there is a romantic menu on it. If not the rule in on. I have the general standard woohoo working. I got a target to do it with my girls, after using romance on him a lot. It wasn't autonomous, I had her ask him. But, that is only the regular woohoo. When I have her ask for Passion woohoo, he always refused. 6 hours ago, namaradus said: Make sure Woohooer's Autonomy is turned on. If you have Woohooer's Scoring module that can bring in a bunch of variables that can make sims more self-conscience of their surroundings especially if in public. You could also have a bunch of naturally self-conscience sims even without Woohooer's Scoring module so go into Passion's Setting and turn off Rejection. I do not know why or how the Woohooer mod, with Scoring or not, would affect the Passion mod. Passion is not regular woohoo, and while it can cause a "woohoo event" which will make moodlets, babies, and payments for "professionals", I did not expect the rules to start Passion would be the same or anyway connected. I'm sorry, I feel like I'm not being understood. I'm not talking about autonomous anything. I just do not understand the rules for why a Sim rejects Passion when my Sims ask. It doesn't seem to make sense. Only one random sim actually accepted, and I do not know why. If I cannot figure it out, I suppose I will turn off rejection, and just decide that if my Sims reach a certain flirty need level, their target Sim is ready to go. Sorry for this long chain of confusion.
TwilightStorm Posted February 13, 2019 Author Posted February 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, MrsSanta said: Hi Storm! I played a tiny bit yesterday, and returning today this error pops up: As i have clicked on reset and reset all of type it goes away only to return seconds later? I can't delete any sim and having tried all the other options i just don't know what i can do Do i have to reset town as i did when i first started the game yesterday+passion reset as i always do when i have a new version? Or do i have to quit to desktop and go back to the previous version? the only change i did was to take out Sims3CensorEffectDisabled.package as i read that it could conflict with the one i have from Nraas. I had not noticed any conflict but to be better safe than sorry i did! A sidenote haing pregnancy set to 3 % i now have 3 teens and 1 youngadult pregnant will have to set it to 0, or the game will be overrun by babies ? This looks like an issue with outfit changer and not passion. Did you try to change any outfit on that sim, before this above happened? Maybe the removal of the Sims3CensorEffectDisabled.package made some corruption to your sim nude outfit? No one ever said that Sims3CensorEffectDisabled.package conflicts with Nraas. We said that it might conflict with other mods that use the same effects removal resource and that has nothing to do with Nraas mods. Can you remember what you did before this error message appeared? In such cases click the Disable Script button and this will go away.
TwilightStorm Posted February 13, 2019 Author Posted February 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, TheGuardDuck said: I have the general standard woohoo working. I got a target to do it with my girls, after using romance on him a lot. It wasn't autonomous, I had her ask him. But, that is only the regular woohoo. When I have her ask for Passion woohoo, he always refused. I do not know why or how the Woohooer mod, with Scoring or not, would affect the Passion mod. Passion is not regular woohoo, and while it can cause a "woohoo event" which will make moodlets, babies, and payments for "professionals", I did not expect the rules to start Passion would be the same or anyway connected. I'm sorry, I feel like I'm not being understood. I'm not talking about autonomous anything. I just do not understand the rules for why a Sim rejects Passion when my Sims ask. It doesn't seem to make sense. Only one random sim actually accepted, and I do not know why. If I cannot figure it out, I suppose I will turn off rejection, and just decide that if my Sims reach a certain flirty need level, their target Sim is ready to go. Sorry for this long chain of confusion. I'll try to give this to you the most simple way I can. I want you to understand this. This game has 9 cores that build the game structure and game play. When we mod something, we actually write something new that is referenced to those cores without change anything on them, the game cores I mean. This is called pure script modding, when the change/editing of any core behavior is a core modding. When two or more mods reference to the same core, the core executes both modded changes and most times parallel. This game has a lot of C# parallel programing. Passion and woohooer are referenced to sims 3 woohoo system and not just only that. If passion ends a woohoo scene, woohooer gets that as sims 3 kind of woohoo and adds woohoo points and experience as a woohooer to both sims that participate in passion. The same goes vice versa. Unless I decide to add what ever I think that passion can have with out any use or conflict with other pure script mods, some other mods affect the behavior of passion in either good or bad way. If it's a mod with many references on a game core, that many people use for its way to change things in game play and passion just interfere with just few of them, It would be a stupid thing to do and restrict anything around passion and tell the players to remove this or whatever else mod. I always say that modding was made for a better game play and not for any better or best mod (a thing I believe is bullshit) So... yes, Nraas woohooer settings can affect passion behavior as @namaradus mentioned! There is no way to make any "Anything Included" mod and even if I wanted to do so, the game would have no more people to play with it, when I finish with it. It takes so much time and that's for sure, is not a piece of cake! 1
TheGuardDuck Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 I'm sorry, I just wanted to know the conditions for rejection. I think I figured it out. Kids in the room will block it, yes? Does it get blocked by other people? I just got this nice hunk to come with me upstairs into a quiet room at the gym and I didn't even have to ask, just a bit of kissing and he got right to it and took her on the coffee table! After we banged 2 more times and he dropped a total of $240 by the time he got tired and went home! I don't recall there being kids around before, but maybe there was? But that didn't stop my own girls... Still not sure, just, I have all the mods set correctly, and I don't know why it is so hard to get them to accept.
TwilightStorm Posted February 13, 2019 Author Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, TheGuardDuck said: I think I figured it out. Kids in the room will block it, yes? NO! For sure! 1 hour ago, TheGuardDuck said: Does it get blocked by other people? NO way, and if you choose -Expel invalid Sims- (that's for teens) from the room when Passion begins setting, other people leave the room and your sims continue. 1 hour ago, TheGuardDuck said: After we banged 2 more times and he dropped a total of $240 ??? What's that??? 1 hour ago, TheGuardDuck said: I don't recall there being kids around before, but maybe there was? But that didn't stop my own girls... Kids/pets just leave the place and not stop the event... What other mods you use? Can you screenshot your mods folder with all of them? Do you also have Kinky World installed in the same mods folder?
TheGuardDuck Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 I got paid because I'm using Kama Simtra and my Sims are "professionals". It's just transfers money from the other Sims household to yours, if they are not part of your family. My girl banged him 3 times total, got $80 each time. I have multitudes of outfit mods, but only a few that change gameplay behavior. Just some of the Nraas mods, the cmar penis stuff, a few retuner that tweak simple things like stopping people from dropping everything just to watch a guitar player or freaking out over simbots. No Kinky World, and not much else. You REALLY want a screenshot? All I'm trying to figure out is what the criteria for rejection is? I flirt with them, get them finding me irrisestable, and then I use Passion to ask if they wanna fuck, and they decline. The vast majority of the time. They will do normal woohoo, but always decline Passion. I found publicly masturbating gets them doing the same, then I can join them, but, that seems like cheating. Is there a certain lifetime friendliness that they need? A specific value I need to meet? If so, maybe it takes a lot longer to reach than getting them finding me irresistible.
Guest Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 17 hours ago, TheGuardDuck said: I do not know why or how the Woohooer mod, with Scoring or not, would affect the Passion mod. Passion is not regular woohoo, and while it can cause a "woohoo event" which will make moodlets, babies, and payments for "professionals", I did not expect the rules to start Passion would be the same or anyway connected. Woohooer controls Romantic and Flirty interaction autonomy and Passion autonomy requires successful Romantic and Flirty interactions to be triggered. And I know Passion isn't normal woohoo I've been using this mod when it was first at HoT and I also used the Kicker's Animated Woohoo and Alfiechan's version of Animated Woohoo. And I've also played the game since 2010 as well as being a CAW user and former modder (although I didn't make many cause I was too hard on myself). 13 hours ago, TheGuardDuck said: All I'm trying to figure out is what the criteria for rejection is? I flirt with them, get them finding me irrisestable, and then I use Passion to ask if they wanna fuck, and they decline. As I stated Woohooer makes sims more self-conscience. You can flirt with a sim successfully multiple times but sims can get bored with that when done to much and they reject the next flirty interaction. Since Passion is tagged as flirty/romantic interaction the sims can get bored if too much flirtyness has happened. Jealousy can also cause rejection if the sim has a spouse, girlfriend/boyfriend or romantic interest and they or a sim that knows them are on the lot. Passion and Woohoer both have settings (woohoo has 2) for Jealousy you can try turning those off. The game also has it's own Romantic Reputation system that can sometimes interfere. I have Rejection disabled for those reasons namely because the game likes to butt-in all the time. Turn off Rejection turn off Jealousy in both Passion and Woohooer (remember Woohooer has 2 settings for Jealousy) you'll be a lot happier instead of frustrating yourself.
Guest Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 8 hours ago, sim333 said: Hmm. I did not know that these layers creates Nraas and they are not in a clean game. But I think their absence is somehow possible to determine and do not refer to it. Sorry, I proceed only from the fact that the programmer is God and he can do everything))). Not really creates Nraas but extra layers that don't normally exist since it's a modded layer in order for Outfit Changer to be aware of those layers it would need a hook tie-in to MC. It's possible to use detection code for the hook tie-in to work and only when MC is detected but detection code isn't reliable and can fail at the worst times.
TheGuardDuck Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 49 minutes ago, namaradus said: Woohooer controls Romantic and Flirty interaction autonomy and Passion autonomy requires successful Romantic and Flirty interactions to be triggered. Not about autonomy. I've seen that work, and it's cool! 51 minutes ago, namaradus said: As I stated Woohooer makes sims more self-conscience. You can flirt with a sim successfully multiple times but sims can get bored with that when done to much and they reject the next flirty interaction. Since Passion is tagged as flirty/romantic interaction the sims can get bored if too much flirtyness has happened. Jealousy can also cause rejection if the sim has a spouse, girlfriend/boyfriend or romantic interest and they or a sim that knows them are on the lot. Passion and Woohoer both have settings (woohoo has 2) for Jealousy you can try turning those off. The game also has it's own Romantic Reputation system that can sometimes interfere I have jealousy turned off in Woohooer and Passion. I am aware of Woohooers 2 settings; I was literally one of the ones to point out to Twallan that sitting romance didn't get covered, several years ago. Thanks to him, I have a ladies man sim with 6 "wives", romantic interests who live with him. I have never messed with Animated Woohoo and the like back then because it seemed like a massive amount of work. XTC was just plug-n-play. I only recently found Passion, and discovered it has become XTC on steroids... Or Viagra, if you prefer. So, I'm not a total noob. I have literally no problems getting Sims to agree to regular woohoo, the problem is that they keep rejecting Passion when they would normally have no qualms with popping in the shower with my girls using the standard interactions. But with passion? I've sent my girls after single, straight men, adults and teens, who find them hot, and they still continually refuse. 1 hour ago, namaradus said: I have Rejection disabled for those reasons namely because the game likes to butt-in all the time. Turn off Rejection turn off Jealousy in both Passion and Woohooer (remember Woohooer has 2 settings for Jealousy) you'll be a lot happier instead of frustrating yourself I am thinking of doing this as well. It's cheap, but I can make better stories than whatever system is blocking me. I don't always get very much time to play Sims, and doing so takes hours. I've spent 2 days playing my test game, learned a lot about passion, but I'm tired of dealing with this blockage, so, I might just quit and resume my other family.
Guest Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 11 hours ago, TheGuardDuck said: I have jealousy turned off in Woohooer and Passion. I am aware of Woohooers 2 settings; I was literally one of the ones to point out to Twallan that sitting romance didn't get covered, several years ago. Thanks to him, I have a ladies man sim with 6 "wives", romantic interests who live with him. I have never messed with Animated Woohoo and the like back then because it seemed like a massive amount of work. XTC was just plug-n-play. I only recently found Passion, and discovered it has become XTC on steroids... Or Viagra, if you prefer. So, I'm not a total noob. I have literally no problems getting Sims to agree to regular woohoo, the problem is that they keep rejecting Passion when they would normally have no qualms with popping in the shower with my girls using the standard interactions. But with passion? I've sent my girls after single, straight men, adults and teens, who find them hot, and they still continually refuse. That really sounds like the game is working overtime to block things. If turning off Rejection doesn't work I'd start looking for mod conflicts. I once had 2 conflicting tuning mods that stopped Nraas SP from working correctly it's amazing how 2 conflicting mods can sometimes mess up something not even related to what they do.
TheGuardDuck Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 5 hours ago, namaradus said: That really sounds like the game is working overtime to block things. If turning off Rejection doesn't work I'd start looking for mod conflicts. I once had 2 conflicting tuning mods that stopped Nraas SP from working correctly it's amazing how 2 conflicting mods can sometimes mess up something not even related to what they do. Wow!... Ok, can I ask what they were? As far as I can remember, all I got are tunings to: Block the Simbots reactions Stop the Curfew Cops from showing up Disable the negative effects of Generations' reputation system Stop people from dropping their lives to watch someone play guitar Slow down useage of Dragon Valley dragon "pets" (friggin rippoff!!) Tweak timespan of pregnancy to a length I find more fitting And that's all I can recall. I also get that glitch where Sims walk on water when they snorkel. ? Not many people make threads on that, and some have commented that they get it with no mods at all. Anyway, this is going beyond the scope of this thread. Sorry to make such an issue out of it.
blarofl Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 On 2/13/2019 at 9:10 PM, MrsSanta said: Hi Storm! I played a tiny bit yesterday, and returning today this error pops up: As i have clicked on reset and reset all of type it goes away only to return seconds later? I can't delete any sim and having tried all the other options i just don't know what i can do Do i have to reset town as i did when i first started the game yesterday+passion reset as i always do when i have a new version? Or do i have to quit to desktop and go back to the previous version? the only change i did was to take out Sims3CensorEffectDisabled.package as i read that it could conflict with the one i have from Nraas. I had not noticed any conflict but to be better safe than sorry i did! A sidenote haing pregnancy set to 3 % i now have 3 teens and 1 youngadult pregnant will have to set it to 0, or the game will be overrun by babies ? Edit: Reset passion did the trick, i also turned of pregnancy in passion and with that the condoms are not neccesary as i don't use std. Have than played 10 min more and all is well? Weird First, sorry for my english, I get the same error as well. This keeps popping up during random moments. The sim could be sleeping or taking a bath and this error shows up I also click on the buttons until it goes away, but it keeps coming back. The sybian saddle also doesn't work for me. The sim just gets naked then stands, and then cancels the prompt. Then clicking on the saddle only brings up nraas unless I put it in a sim's inventory then take it out again. Still no animation though
Guest Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 5 hours ago, TheGuardDuck said: Wow!... Ok, can I ask what they were? Can't remember the exact names of them as it was along time ago. But they both edited the Sim XML and I didn't bother to look to make sure they wouldn't conflict, actually at the time I didn't really understand mod conflicts as I was new to adding mods to my games.
Guest Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 Lesbian strap on animations always pause after it’s animation loop, remove the strap on and then puts the strap on back on and resumes. I know that it didn’t happen in KW? Does anyone now how to fix it? I’d appreciate it and thank you. Edit: If you manually place the strap on through a custom naked outfit, none of the above happens? Obviously turning off the Passion setting Females use strap on. When it's on those things above happen so I assume it's something to do with the setting? I think it’s a mixture of that setting and the one that allows you to autonomously change positions after a select amount of minutes. On default, it’s one and that works roughly but set it higher like KW, you get the animation loop and pause around ten times. It looks bad. Looks like I’ll have to remove the strap on setting for now and change them manually through the MC. it’s the only way I can get the strap on animations to not loop and pause and run smoothly. I still hope someone can help, any insight Is appreciated.
TwilightStorm Posted February 15, 2019 Author Posted February 15, 2019 9 hours ago, blarofl said: First, sorry for my english, I get the same error as well. This keeps popping up during random moments. The sim could be sleeping or taking a bath and this error shows up I also click on the buttons until it goes away, but it keeps coming back. The sybian saddle also doesn't work for me. The sim just gets naked then stands, and then cancels the prompt. Then clicking on the saddle only brings up nraas unless I put it in a sim's inventory then take it out again. Still no animation though When you install a new update of any script mod, delete your games cache files. If you play a game world such as Moonlight Falls. delete CASPartCache.package, compositorCache.package, scriptCache.package, simCompositorCache.package. If you play a custom or store world, delete the files inside the folder WorldCaches. You will find 2 package files named WorldName_objects.package and WorldName_sims.package. Except that, for this version you need to reset passion system to its defaults, because the passion defaults are changed.
TwilightStorm Posted February 15, 2019 Author Posted February 15, 2019 6 hours ago, TheMoronicalClown said: Lesbian strap on animations always pause after it’s animation loop, remove the strap on and then puts the strap on back on and resumes. I know that it didn’t happen in KW? Does anyone now how to fix it? I’d appreciate it and thank you. Edit: If you manually place the strap on through a custom naked outfit, none of the above happens? Obviously turning off the Passion setting Females use strap on. When it's on those things above happen so I assume it's something to do with the setting? I think it’s a mixture of that setting and the one that allows you to autonomously change positions after a select amount of minutes. On default, it’s one and that works roughly but set it higher like KW, you get the animation loop and pause around ten times. It looks bad. Looks like I’ll have to remove the strap on setting for now and change them manually through the MC. it’s the only way I can get the strap on animations to not loop and pause and run smoothly. I still hope someone can help, any insight Is appreciated. KW works in a different way that passion works. KW works with stages. If current stage needs a strap on so next stage has also a strap on. Passion do not use stages but instead it peaks a random animation of any kind depends to player settings choice. In this logic, passion adds a strap on at the beginning of an animation and removes it at the end of it and puts it back if the next animation asks for strap on. As for the delay you say, I had left something by mistake and that made it a bit longer than it's supposed to be but I fixed it today. I'll re upload this update tomorrow again with this fix....
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