weirdtexan Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Hey everyone, been browsing some of the hundreds of amazing mods available on the site, and I'm still constantly amazed even after a year on the board of how incredible some of the modders are, that they create such fantastic work for nothing. And I've been distressed to read how so many modders feel unappreciated for their work, often dealing with nitpicky fans and nonstop badgering to the point that some quit work on their mods or even pull them from the community entirely. I hate seeing the hard work of so many talented, skilled and passionate artists going unappreciated, so the thought occured "why don't we PAY the modders we love for their work?" What if some of the modders start up paypal accounts and we the fans reward them for their hard work? Think of Donkey's extended creature animations, Chase Roxand's LoversBitch, Jitek's Children of the Sky, Halstrom's Sexout Pregnancy and son on and so forth. I think it'd be great if a lot of us chipped in $5 here and there to show appreciation the modders who make the mods we love. What say y'all? Would any modders be willing to accept a little contribution? Or has this already been s suggested and I'm just slow to catch up? Link to comment
weirdtexan Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 Good point about money mucking things up Mogie. I guess the least I can do is donate to the site. But if any modder who makes amazing things asks for a contribution, I'll have trouble saying no. Link to comment
Kamen Rider Kuuga Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 The very MOMENT you introduce money into the thing, you run the risk of a modder pulling some "If I don't get >x amount of money<, then I won't release/update/keep working on >whatever mod here Besides, when things go from a hobby and a labor of love to something that can possibly pay the pills, everything tends to go to Hell and become shit. Link to comment
Triratna Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Well you can always donate it to loverslab to keep us alive. Oblivion has lost a great portion it's originality, none of the mods are belong to a single person. Everything goes to bethseda for making it possible to us for creating, ripping, copying, tweaking and another creative mad experiment to fulfill our own ego. Sharing mod is enough. we're all so lucky that all mod has to be shared, All Mod is useless until it's distributed publicly. Basicly if one got single creative skill like: songwriter, storywriter, 2d, 3d, audio mix, Voice over, musician, can contribute mods to make the games better. I make mod oblivion because it's legacy between modders. Since not everyone has the guts, the assets, the times, the skills and opportunity to do it. The mod itself are it's own rewards. Ever tried my 'children annuad' mod? The best goddamn oblivion children mod ever made in the whole internet, second to none. Link to comment
prideslayer Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Appreciate the thought, but no interest in taking money for any of this. I'm building on the backs of others. Without UDLR, Bromm83, Loogie, Donkey, and many others, Sexout would be nothing. There's no way I'd take money for what amounts to the work of others, in whole or in part. Modders throwing temper tantrums over being un/underappreciated can FOAD, they're no better than those they are complaining about. Link to comment
Chase Roxand Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Give me all of your money! Donate! But seriously, give it to LoversLab. This site deserves your money infinitely more than any one modder. Link to comment
Grumpf Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Faith in humanity is restored If someone would buy my work for what it worths I won't say no but right now, knowing more or less the business I'd say I'd like around 300k which is nothing for the time spent on it... Let me open the next button of my collar it's unconf... right, done, pfiuu thanks. Now more seriously weirdtexan: You touched something that sooner or later will be debated... Can we all give a bit to have better bandwidth and hosting so the Lab can host mods more in pro way like the Nexus? Well, I'd say why not, modders will give contents and players 1$ a year to keep it on top, why not... Question is, 2$ maybe? When you think of it, the mighty interweb corrupted us all in thinking everything is free... But that can change. Link to comment
prideslayer Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Internet didn't corrupt me into thinking anything is free; I don't steal movies, music, games, etc. My time is mine to donate though. If anything, taking money would make me feel like I owed something in return, and that's not a feeling I want. It's a hobby, and I can quit any time. If it turned into a job, I'd have to quit. Link to comment
GSBmodders Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 The very MOMENT you introduce money into the thing' date=' you run the risk of a modder pulling some "If I don't get >x amount of money<, then I won't release/update/keep working on >whatever mod here Besides, when things go from a hobby and a labor of love to something that can possibly pay the pills, everything tends to go to Hell and become shit. [/quote'] Funny your fears are opposite of my own, My fear consists of the moment that I accept a donation that the said donator begin's to place demands upon me and attempting to direct what I do and how I do it which is something that I could not abide. Link to comment
gregathit Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Funny your fears are opposite of my own' date=' My fear consists of the moment that I accept a donation that the said donator begin's to place demands upon me and attempting to direct what I do and how I do it which is something that I could not abide. [/quote'] Personally, I would love to see this happen. I would grab a huge coke and xxxlarge bucket of popcorn and enjoy watching you rip them into teeny tiny bloody shreds..... To be serious the whole thing is kind of a slippery slope that potentially could be quite disturbing. Link to comment
GSBmodders Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Funny your fears are opposite of my own' date=' My fear consists of the moment that I accept a donation that the said donator begin's to place demands upon me and attempting to direct what I do and how I do it which is something that I could not abide. [/quote'] Personally, I would love to see this happen. I would grab a huge coke and xxxlarge bucket of popcorn and enjoy watching you rip them into teeny tiny bloody shreds..... To be serious the whole thing is kind of a slippery slope that potentially could be quite disturbing. I doubt if I would rip into the masses, I have been trying to be a kinder gentler GSB. As per Ashal's rules. I would swear this part of rule was aimed in my direction "public calling out a fellow forum member will not be tolerated." Now while I would never in a million years accept a donation or charge cash for mod. I do however believe that should paid modding be successfully advocated by valve that it could be a gigantic boost for the modding community as a whole. My wife has recently started off in second life and some of the mods created for that are nothing short of being fucking spectacularly amazing. For me to praise something in more words then it's good or awesome should be an indication of just how good some of these mods truly are. This is a level of modding that we will likely never see in a free community. The time and work involved is huge discouragement for those who are doing this for a community where only a handful ever say thank you. Link to comment
Halstrom Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Personally, I'd rather see a few bucks donated to keep LoversLab running. It's a double edged sword, at the moment when I release a beta that fails I just get bug reports and people wanting to help, but if people were paying for it and it went the wrong end of the pineapple, you would get a few people would be complaining about "paying good money for this rip off" even if it was only $1 On the other hand, I'm going to be retiring from work over the next 2-5 months, so need to make an alternative income from the internet somehow as my eyesight deteroirates further, I'm looking at all this mod coding as practice for something in Mobile phone Apps, anyone want a Pregnancy Mod for a Mobile Phone game? Link to comment
Guest †Foggy♥Sugar† Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 If someone wanted to give me a super professional mic, I'd be one happy little clam. I dunno if I could ever just accept cash of any kind though, it would feel wrong to me. Then again super great mics are extremely expensive so that might even be worse actually and I would prolly FEEL even worse... what a weird dilemma? It would be a sincerely sweet gesture but to accept it would mean (to me) I'm accepting payment for something I would rather do for fun. And with how freakin' long I take to make some hurrdurr sex sounds it would be amazingly awful of me! XD Link to comment
Triratna Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Modders throwing temper tantrums over being un/underappreciated can FOAD' date=' they're no better than those they are complaining about. [/quote'] It not easy to forgive an influential shit head after all the foul notions i've suffered. Children modding on loverslab is always an eternal dispute. I wanna make sure the 'FUCK OFF AND DIE' on my parts is very loud on clear for everyone who were against every steps of it's development concept since last year. Doesn't matter if i'm a better or a worst person in this whole server, My complains has been heard and it's already been taken care by the loverslab administration. ~ The FOAD only apply to one pathetic motherfucker with a shitty moderating skill. Link to comment
Guest Lady Luck Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 understand this modders doesn't need money to collect fans or votes, true modders do for the game and it's community and not asking favors in return were not leaching money from fans, however financially support is sometimes is good to support the mods to continue their work remember it's not our game , it's the company game , if we all support financially here and there , there would be lawsuit up in the ass wont want that to happen wont we.. other then that by supporting LL via donation is a good idea ( i always do that in a different account , and not telling what account im using donating on this site, i don't need vip status because i know i can upload unlimited number of files that's enough for me to just keep on modding games although i'm a semi retired modders, im still active doing smaller once but useful) Link to comment
weirdtexan Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 Lot of good points made all around, even touching on the entire notion of "how much is art worth?" I also think BaconMinion made a good point about asking for money for modifications made to somebody else's product, and FoggyZerani made a good point about accepting donated materials that help with mods. Either way, I'm glad to see so many people willing to put in such hard work purely out of passion, and it looks like my money's best spent donating to the site itself. Thanks for all your input! Also: Triratna, I have tried your mod and its amazing! And Grumpf, glad I could restore a little bit of faith for you! Link to comment
deathparade Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Ok after reading a little (can't concetrate on text really autism don't blame me) But i knew when i readed this thread name i knew i was going to find people who will say "no modding is free of charge" in that direction! Now it's even illegal but if i had more money to spend i would give a bunch of euro's to LL (euros are more worth than dollars anyway) If a modder isn't happy with a humble thank you and ask for money he is not a modder anymore but more like one of those door-to-door sellers which everyone hates! Don't think i hate modders that atleast ask for some praising i mean you have given alot of your free time to do something for free but selling a mod is illegal and really wrong! If i get some more money i'll drop a few coins in Ashal's website money pot to support the site itself (Yea i've seen hosting prices and know what is used to host it's not an ordinary PC i can tell you!) Link to comment
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