SensualLust Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 So I just updated to the latest campfire and Frostfall version, and there is massive instability since I installed those version. The only thing I think of the reason they are doing this is because the previous versions I used did not have Papyrus Util. Anyway I will post my install order, load order, and papyrus logs and see if you can spot anything wrong. Load order # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm Campfire.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm hdtHighHeel.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SexLab.esm CreatureFramework.esm SexLabAroused.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm SGHairPackBase.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp SkyUI.esp Convenient Horses.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp WetandCold.esp WetandCold - Ashes.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp Skill Config.esp Differently Ebony.esp MikanEyes All in one.esp FreckleMania.esp TakeNotes.esp KS Hairdo's.esp imp_helm_legend.esp ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp AHZmoreHUD.esp iHUD.esp Brows.esp TrueBrows.esp Beards.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenu.esp Bijin Wives.esp dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp Toccata as Elisif.esp DiethardtWarpaint.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp FNIS.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp SexlabArousalEnhancement.esp NusbieVoices.esp SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp FootIKOffSpell.esp SexLab Cumshot.esp SLALAnimObj.esp SLAnimLoader.esp RealisticRoomRental.esp 3DNPC.esp FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp ProudspiremanorTNF_BP.esp VHTNF_BP.esp hjerimtnf.esp HoneysideTNF.esp SexLabNudeCreatures.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp BHTNF_BP.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Holidays.esp Point The Way.esp HentaiCreatures.esp Inigo.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp meadery.esp aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp HearthfireMultiKid.esp HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp Run For Your Lives.esp Cloaks.esp HeljarchenFarm.esp WindstadMine.esp RSChildren - Complete.esp RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp Hunterborn.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp Frostfall.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp TradeRoutes.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp Bijin NPCs.esp LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp LeftHandRings.esp Chaconne.esp Vivace.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp Serana.esp Valerica.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp RailLight.esp Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp ArtOfTheCatch.esp LoversComfort.esp iNeed.esp vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp Ish's Souls to Perks.esp TheLily.esp Emfy Cleric Robes.esp dovahkiinrelax.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Merta Assassin Armor.esp Merta Black Rose Armor.esp Tembtra Thief Armor.esp Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp Ursine Armor Pack.esp Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp Northgirl.esp Civil War Cleanup.esp AskTheWay.esp Maevan2EyeBrows.esp towConversation.esp When Vampires Attack.esp WondersofWeather.esp Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp Eyes of Aber.esp Better Females - Eyebrows.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp Lieyes_v1.0.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp SexLabDefeat.esp SGHairPackAIO.esp LindsHumanEyes.esp TheCoenaculiUNP.esp RutahTattooPack.esp KS Jewelry.esp Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp EmpyreanWarpaints.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Install order # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. +PapyrusUtil - Modders Scripting Utility Functions +Empyrean Warpaints in HD +KS Jewelry +Rutah Tattoo Pack for RaceMenu +The Coenaculi - RaceMenu Plugin for Tattoos +Teeth Plus - Redone +Teeth Plus +Natural Eyes +ApachiiSkyHairFemale +Lind's Human Eyes +ApachiiSkyHair +SG Hair Pack 268 by HelloSanta +Sexy Mara statue +Sevenbase Dibella statue +Polished and Sexy nocturnal statue +Sexy Azura Statue +FNISOutput +LiEyes - Eye pack SA +BSOUtput +FNISOutput4 +Armoroutput3 +Familiar Faces +Left Hand Rings +INIGO -SkySight Skins - Ultra HD Male Textures and Real Feet Meshes (2K1K LOW) +Safety Load +No bethesda Intro +Better Females Eyebrows - Standalone +Eyes of Aber +Immersive Patrols +No Spinning Death Animation +Immersive Armors CBBE and UUNP Refit +Immersive Armors +Cloaks of Skyrim +Wonders of Weather +When Vampires Attack +Point The Way +Run For Your Lives +Face to face conversation +Maevan2's Eye Brows +AmorousAdventures +Ask the Way +Immersive Civil War Cleanup +NorthGirl Outfit UUNP Bodyslide +Northgirl Armor +Gwelda (Little) Red Riding Hood Outfit UUNP - CBBE +Ursine Armor Pack for UUNP Bodyslide +Ursine Armor Pack UNP +Merta Sotteta Tembtra UUNP Bodyslide Set +Sotteta Huntress Armor UNP +Sotteta Necromancer Outfit UNP - CBBE +Tembtra Thief Armor UNP - CBBE +Merta Black Rose Armor UUNP - CBBE +Merta Assassin Armor UNP - CBBE +Emfy Cleric for UUNP Bodyslide System +Emfy Cleric Robes UNP - CBBE +The Lily - Armour Mashup +RealisticRoomRental-Enhanced +Art of the Catch +Wearable Lanterns +SkyTEST - Realistic Animals and Predators +Hunterborn +Superior Lore-Friendly Hair - HD textures +Weathered and Worn Warpaints +XCE - Warpaint and Dirt +Beards +Brows +True Brows +Dovahkiin Relaxes Too +Breezehome TNF Beds Plus +Vlindrel Hall TNF Beds Plus +HoneysideTNF Beds Plus +Proudspire Manor TNF Beds Plus +Hjerim TNF Beds Plus +Honeystrand Meadery +Heljarchen Farm +Windstad Mine +Hearthfire multiple adoptions - Now with custom home support for kids and spouse +The Paarthurnax Dilemma +aMidianHotfixes +aMidianBorn - Content Addon +aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Weapons +aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Unique Items +aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Dragonborn DLC +aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Creatures +aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Armors +RS Children Patch for USLEEP +RS Children Overhaul +Immersive HUD - iHUD +moreHUD +Viewable Faction Ranks +Guard Dialogue Overhaul +Better Dialogue Controls +Better MessageBox Controls +Improved closefaced helmets +All-in-One HDT Animated Pussy +Valerica +Seranaholic +More Nasty Critters +The Eyes Of Beauty -KS Hairdos - HDT Physics +KS Hairdos - Renewal +Take Notes - Journal of the Dragonborn +Freckle Mania +Mikan Eyes +Follower Commentary Overhaul - FCO +Interesting NPCs +Toccata as Elisif +Vivace Follower +Chaconne Follower +Bijin NPCs +Bijin Warmaidens +Bijin Wives +Ishs Souls to Perks +Skills Config +Skyrim - Enhanced Camera +iNeed - Food, Water and Sleep +Holidays +Frostfall - Hypothermia Camping Survival +Campfire - Complete Camping System +ZazAnimationPack +SLAL mike24 Animations v1 +SLAL NibblesAnims 3.8 +SLAL Animations by Leito v1.6 +Anub +SLAnimLoader +SexLab CumTextures Remake v1.2 +SexLab Cumshot 1.7.2 +FootIK OFF Spell +SexLab - Sound FX Replacer +Nusbie +FurtherLoversComfort +SL Defeat v5.3.5 +SexLab-Arousal-Enhancement-0.2 +SexLabAroused V28b +Creature Framework 1.1.0-pre2 +SexLabMatchMaker +SexLabFramework v162 FULL +Wet and Cold +Trade Routes +Climates Of Tamriel-V +HDT Physics Extensions +AddItemMenu - Ultimate Mod Explorer +HDT HighHeels System +BodySlide and Outfit Studio -Demoniac_Texture +UNP +SOS +XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended +Fuz Ro Doh +Realistic Ragdolls and Force +Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS +ShowRaceMenu Precache Killer +RaceMenu +Convenient Horses +Amazing Follower Tweaks +Alternate Start - Live Another Life +JContainers +UIExtensions +SkyUI +SKSE +Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch *Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01 *Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02 *Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03 *Unmanaged: Dawnguard *Unmanaged: Dragonborn *Unmanaged: HearthFires Papyrus.0.logPapyrus.1.logPapyrus.2.logPapyrus.3.log
bicobus Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 I would put my money on Wet and Cold, the little bugger attach scripts to every NPC IIRC.
SensualLust Posted May 14, 2017 Author Posted May 14, 2017 I would put my money on Wet and Cold, the little bugger attach scripts to every NPC IIRC. Why would it be Wed and Cold when it worked just fine before I installed the new versions of Frostfall and Campfire?
Storms of Superior Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 I would put my money on Wet and Cold, the little bugger attach scripts to every NPC IIRC. Why would it be Wed and Cold when it worked just fine before I installed the new versions of Frostfall and Campfire? Maybe Wet and Cold needs an update. Usually when updating some files, compatibility becomes an issue with other mods until an update or compatibility patch is released to match the functionality of the previously updated mods.
bicobus Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 You shouldn't get any instability as long as frostfall isn't running anyhow. I don't know what you mean by instability though. All I know is that iNeed and Wet and Cold are quite script heavy and may lead to trouble on an already heavily modded game. The loadorder you posted is really annoying as it hasn't the hexadecimal index. I'm pretty sure this isn't supposed to happen: [05/14/2017 - 03:35:30PM] Error: _frost_skyuiconfigpanelscript.OnGameReload() being called on an invalid object, aborting function call stack: [alias PlayerAlias on quest _Frost_SkyUIConfigPanel (6206DCF8)].SKI_PlayerLoadGameAlias.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "SKI_PlayerLoadGameAlias.psc" Line 6 Lastly, I assume that you are starting a new game with that papyrus. If it is so, you may want to gradually enable addons, so as to let them properly initialize. As it is, everything is doing its thing at the same time and it's a mess.
SensualLust Posted May 14, 2017 Author Posted May 14, 2017 You shouldn't get any instability as long as frostfall isn't running anyhow. I don't know what you mean by instability though. All I know is that iNeed and Wet and Cold are quite script heavy and may lead to trouble on an already heavily modded game. The loadorder you posted is really annoying as it hasn't the hexadecimal index. I'm pretty sure this isn't supposed to happen: [05/14/2017 - 03:35:30PM] Error: _frost_skyuiconfigpanelscript.OnGameReload() being called on an invalid object, aborting function call stack: [alias PlayerAlias on quest _Frost_SkyUIConfigPanel (6206DCF8)].SKI_PlayerLoadGameAlias.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "SKI_PlayerLoadGameAlias.psc" Line 6 Lastly, I assume that you are starting a new game with that papyrus. If it is so, you may want to gradually enable addons, so as to let them properly initialize. As it is, everything is doing its thing at the same time and it's a mess. I actually go to coc QASmoke from the menu. Which is what I did when these logs took place. The instability I am talking about is the gaming crashing after first load. The reason I think Frostfall and Campfire is causing it is because all of this happened after I installed the new versions and noticed that the new versions use papyrus util and it overwrites Sexlab. Also most of my addons enable the moment I load the game.
bicobus Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 PapyrusUtil included in sexlab and campfire are the latest available (version 3.3).
27X Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 All three of those survival mods are a mess, even the most newestest most more betterest version. If you install them you should install them by themselves and get it out of your system and move on to something else.
Sladen2019 Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 In Mod Organizer, your left pane should resemble your plugins list on the right. It doesnt have to match perfectly but there should be some semblance. If you updated from really old versions to the newest version, you perhaps shouldve done a clean save. I recall Ashal making some new versions of PapyrusUtil after 1.62. If he added 3.3 to 1.62 later on, then you may not have it. You might have an older 1.62 with an older papyrusutil. You might benefit from cleaning your save. When its done properly, the backup will be made.
SensualLust Posted May 15, 2017 Author Posted May 15, 2017 In Mod Organizer, your left pane should resemble your plugins list on the right. It doesnt have to match perfectly but there should be some semblance. If you updated from really old versions to the newest version, you perhaps shouldve done a clean save. I recall Ashal making some new versions of PapyrusUtil after 1.62. If he added 3.3 to 1.62 later on, then you may not have it. You might have an older 1.62 with an older papyrusutil. You might benefit from cleaning your save. When its done properly, the backup will be made. This has ntohing to do with saves, as I started a new game or went into a cell after the game loaded when I noticed this problem. All three of those survival mods are a mess, even the most newestest most more betterest version. If you install them you should install them by themselves and get it out of your system and move on to something else. Yeah I had an old version that was before Frostfall 3.1. Also what would I move on to? Its not like there are other mods that let you set up and camp and try to survive in cold.
Lodakai Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 There are a few other camping and also survival mods.. BUT I use frostfall and campfire (even ineed) along with sexlab and many SL mods just fine. You need to make sure you are using crash fixes with OSallocators enabled and the preloader installed. You do want to reduce script load as much as possible. But you should also be aware that there is a string count limit unless you use allocation of those strings outside of the default. This is what crash fixes does (as i understand it). In the end.. the more load you have on your script engine.. the more likely it is to fail. Keep it as light as you are able while still having the game you want. Eliminate whatever you can live without.
khumak Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 I used to crash when resting fairly often in oldrim with frostfall active but that's the only issue I ever had with it. I've never had a crash in SE no matter how many heavily scripted mods I run.
SensualLust Posted May 18, 2017 Author Posted May 18, 2017 There are a few other camping and also survival mods.. BUT I use frostfall and campfire (even ineed) along with sexlab and many SL mods just fine. You need to make sure you are using crash fixes with OSallocators enabled and the preloader installed. You do want to reduce script load as much as possible. But you should also be aware that there is a string count limit unless you use allocation of those strings outside of the default. This is what crash fixes does (as i understand it). In the end.. the more load you have on your script engine.. the more likely it is to fail. Keep it as light as you are able while still having the game you want. Eliminate whatever you can live without. I guess I will just have to stick with the versions I had before I updated. Because the game crashed very rarely before I updated the newest versions.
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