Men who play women and get them raped

[ChaosZen]

 

I just skimmed through your convoluted diatribe and feel I must clarify that this is how I play games.  I do what I am comfortable with and I neither have any expectations or concerns how others go about playing their own games.  Sorry to disappoint you, I can see you put a lot of time and effort into your criticism but in truth you have only wasted your time and I refuse to waste any more of mine on this subject.  That, and I feel these few short sentences are all you are worth.  I am not trying to be mean or hurtful, just honest and blunt and am too tired to care.  This isn't worth letting my coffee get cold, so goodbye.

 

 

It's all good. My typing was not solely for your benefit, but also for anybody else who'd be curious to hear perspectives outside of their own. I'm not disappointed in the least, only hoping that if you truly wished to know the "why" or what it's like, then perhaps someday give it a try and expand your options and variety of enjoying games. In truth, not so many people really care if the real person is so different from the character, and the minority who do tend to be young and inexperienced, or driven by other motives. You are free to explore all options.

 

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[Guest]

I dont go in a dungeon with an attitude

like "yeah! lets get fuckin raped! Woooo!

Oh Yeahhhhh! Ive been wanting to get 

raped since I sold stuff at Whiterun, my

ass is craving the rapes. the rapes of wrath!"

if my pc (dude or chick) gets raped well that

is on them for making bad decisions and

not thinking on the margin. And if they do

get raped I use that element as a force

​of character-development that morphs

them to their fucking core as a human-being

(I never ever fuckin break kayfabe in a

playthrough for that is the purpose

of the playthrough- my actions are

considered 100% their's and only their's for it is based

on their character--kayfabe is the fuckin law

in my playthroughs)

 

and yea my guys got raped by guys and chicks

but not creatures--thats a thing that i will declare

and admit as a double-standard in my games

 

wooo! and oh yeahhh! are WWE references

of Ric Flair & Randy Savage. As a megafan of 

wrestling WWE, NJPW, Lucha Underground, and ROH I use

the term kayfabe- pig-latin for fake in laymen but

really it truly means fictionally in character. fiction

is not fake--fiction is fiction

 

[Gargwazios]

For me, I like to see women. This is the reason why I make a female character. But also as an "old fashioned man" I don't like other man to touch my girl. So she of course love other girls, (most of the time Serana).

This game is, as far as I see, set in a early medieval setting. Which make the rape of a defeated women somewhat immersive, and in my opinion a minor problem for the lady. I think it also could end in rape and enslaved or even killed.

So my character is, certainly after a rape, always extra motivated to kill those bastards. Scum of the Nation.

But this is a game.

 

Better is the question why in Gods name, in real life, have 1 on 4 women troubles with sexual abuse in al kind of forms.

I mean, look at your mother, sister,wife, daughter. That are 4 women. 1 on 4. This bothers me more, and there is more urgency to do something about that.

 

So also my new year wish; Safety and respect for all, especially for women.

The 1/4 statistic is bloated and untrue, just an fyi. As for the rape thing, I think its because in a vidya game where everything is fake and you have absolute control, it's fun to do things that you could never do in real life. I think it categorizes under the same reason that I find ero-guro so interesting. Do I find pleasure in ero-guro, no. But its such an interesting thing to me because it's something that in real life you would never see and only through fictional means is it possible to see such things.

[Sarathis]

This forum's seen all kinds of discussions on why people like playing the content they do in Skyrim. I'm not going to rehash that old conversation again.

 

As for why men like to play female characters in Skyrim and have them get raped, I think it boils down to how much of a connection (or lack thereof) players feel for their characters. From a personal standpoint, I tend to get a little involved with my characters. I put a lot of thought and consideration into their backstory, motivations, and personalities even though those attributes aren't really addressed at all through the gameplay except by the limited choices I'm allowed to make in terms of what questlines to do and how I react to the options I'm given. I blame all those years playing AD&D and Star Frontiers. I get way more invested in mental character storylines than most other people I've met. 

 

For those reasons, though, I tend to shy away from allowing my character to be victimized or violated. It's possible that I project a bit more of myself onto the character than other people do since I'm making all the decisions for them. Even times where I've just quickly made a female character and had them go out to test out content I've newly added to my game felt a little off. Although I use Submit and occasionally Defeat I rarely leave on the option to have the player submit.

 

That being said I know a lot of people who don't feel any personal emotional connection to their characters at all and I'm guessing those are the types who don't mind allowing their character to be raped. My brother, for example, has always been the type who only has an intellectual sort of interest in his roleplaying characters. If something awful happens to one of them he doesn't really care so long as it was an interesting twist, whereas I would be genuinely upset that something traumatic had occurred to them. He doesn't use nude or sex mods in his Skyrim game but I imagine people like him would be fine playing a character who gets raped. For them it's no different from a NPC being victimized since there's an emotional detachment from what is just a good looking representation of a woman (or man! Male rape is real!) in a sexual situation. The fact that they're controlling them is moot. They don't see THEMSELVES as the person getting victimized at all, so there's no real deep meaning behind it, no psychologically repressed desire to be in the same situation or anything. For me it's icky but for them it's just as sexy as seeing a male PC going at it with a female NPC.

[Terrius515]

It's simple for me, there are far more mods and outfits that are only compatible with female player characters.

 

That on top of my not being into gay porn means that if I played male, only a female humanoid would be able to initiate rape. As a female player, anyone (or thing) can

 

To be honest, I would rather play as a man, it would just close a lot of doors

[asdfzxh6]

wrg, ts not men

[Nazzzgul666]

On 28.12.2016 at 11:20 PM, yatol said:

 

 

the view is better

 

defeated followers are an effective way to reduce the number of ennemies

getting defeated is also a better option than dying an reloading to have problems thanks to ram leftovers

Totally OT: what's the mod for the scar in the first picture, and what's the boob free armor in the second?

[Effie]

I may be wrong here, but i've always seen these kinds of games as a way to play what you want to be. As it's a roleplaying game where YOU are the character. You identify with the character and what he/she experiences, you experience, so i can agree a lot with your post since a lot of this was my thoughts too for a while. If you have the fantasy of women being raped, i as well assumed that playing a male character and then raping female npcs would make more sense. In these kinds of communities, i just imagine most people want to be a woman in real life and be raped or be gangbanged xD

 

Nothing wrong with wanting to be that though, but that's just how i see every person posting pics of their character being the woman that is raped and not the other way around.

Rape fantasies are a fetish and so are other things here, but it would make more sense for me if the guy who had that was playing a male character doing it to others.

[Fakenet]

There are several reasons to play as female.

1. i would rather look at a gils ass for hours than a dudes.

2. Especially in Skyrim we got more stuff for females.

3. That might be just me but playing female chars frees me of stereotypical genderroles. The female genderroles were never forced on me so I don't change to those either.

4. It's only rape if you don't want it.

5. I am really into tough women.

6. Especially in SP games it gives me a much broader selection for romance. Not into crossing swords.

7. I never feel like she is getting hurt, I take great care that I don't have a reason for that.

 

Also, if you were only allowed to play what you are how would you justify playing an orc?

[Canaris]

Its funny how i see this thread literally few hours after i had to abandon my first ever MALE playthrough because shitload of content that i had was female only ( to name only two : Sisterhood of Dibella quest to become Sister is not possible while playing as a guy and Eager NPC's gender change doesnt help and Sexlab Achievement mod gets really whacky while playing a guy )... 

Dont get me wrong, i had plenty of fun raping captured bandits, fucking Orgnar for info on Faendal etc but Skyrim modding is so skewed toward playing as a women/female centered/lesbian content its not even funny anymore. 

And as guy before me said - it feels wrong when i play a bi/sub guy , if i play as a women i can be anything - sub/dom/bi, i can fuck animals and people alike and i get more content like armours, items, better bodies etc. 

 

I never "get my char raped" - it only happens naturaly, i have Defeat set on very rare settings where its really unlikely i will ever get raped but its a possibility. 

[Guest]

On 12/28/2016 at 4:55 PM, myuhinny said:

Not everyone likes playing muscle bound neanderthals and many find looking at a female character better then looking at a male character unless the person is gay and likes looking at male characters or they like using male characters instead of female characters.

 

Many games force you to be a muscle bound neanderthal so when you get a chance to dump them you do.

I'm a guy. I play a male Khajiit. My Khajiit is an intellectual, and unlike most other of his kind he's not interested in moon sugar and thievery. My character strives to prove to the Nords and other closed-minded races that Khajiit are just as talented and capable as the non-beast races, since Khajiit (and Argonians) have a history of being looked down on. If that means he has to force himself on women, so be it.

 

As a male, I do not see the appeal of playing a female character. I've done it, and I just don't get the appeal of it. If I wanted to see a naked big booty sloot I'd go on PornHub. 

 

I stream and play publicly sometimes, so having "those" mods installed would not be favorable.

On 12/28/2016 at 5:01 PM, CarmelPop12 said:

As a female looking in on the male perspective I think its a dark taboo fantasy (violence fetish) Does it mean they will act it out in real life. No not necessarily. As a female who plays female character I'm more involved in loyal intimacy. 

I downloaded Amorous Adventures and I think it's fantastic.

 

As a male looking in on the male perspective, there's definitely something different about the people who play slutty bitch ass female characters. My personal opinion is that they should get help or at least talk to a therapist to find the roots of that attraction (usually it boils down to the lack of a dominant female role in their life and a lack of *ahem* sexual activity), but keep in mind I'm one of those people who secretly thinks that they are superior to anyone that they don't agree with.

 

Also as someone who's sexually active with a human being other than myself, I don't see how "great" getting my dick wet in Skyrim is. Sure, I do it for the roleplay aspect and sometimes get off when I'm bored with normal porn, but I don't masturbate aggressively to it like some people on these forums. That's extremely abnormal, especially with a game like Skyrim, and I think that the people who do that need serious help.

 

inb4 people say "if you hate sex mods then why are you here", I don't. I just don't see why they're all that great and worth literally orgasming over. I'm here for a few reasons, the primary reason being I'm a repeat ban evader over on the Nexus because Dark0ne is a conceited queefwaffle and the other moderators are power tripping Nazi douchebags, and I'd rather upload my future mods here where my opinions are safer and I can be heard without getting instabanned because a moderator didn't agree with me.

 

Another reason why I'm here is because I'm a severe narcissist, and uploading my mods to a place where I know that I'll get praise feeds my ego. How's that for awareness?

 

But I digress. I'm with OP, I don't understand the appeal and why you'd want such a thing so consistently in your life, rape is a very serious thing in reality which is why rape fetishes and fantasies are still extremely looked down upon by the masses. Most people who are true victims of rape suffer severe mental illness like PTSD from the experience and usually end up in therapy for a long time. I've had firsthand experience with that, so pardon me if my opinion reflects personal experience.

[Guest]

On 12/9/2017 at 8:06 AM, Fakenet said:

Not into crossing swords.

Is that a gay joke?

[myuhinny]

@RussianPrince

 

Not everyone that plays a female plays a fake girl with big flabby patties with a ass the size of a mack truck. I prefer mine to be more realistic with a smaller more petite size usually B to C cup sometimes A cup it depends on the outfit I'm making on how big the breast area is.

 

I have played males characters before as well and I don't see the appeal of playing them when I can have a choice.

[Guest]

On 1/11/2017 at 2:55 PM, Sarathis said:

1. This forum's seen all kinds of discussions on why people like playing the content they do in Skyrim. I'm not going to rehash that old conversation again.

 

2. As for why men like to play female characters in Skyrim and have them get raped, I think it boils down to how much of a connection (or lack thereof) players feel for their characters. 

 

3. It's possible that I project a bit more of myself onto the character than other people do since I'm making all the decisions for them. 

 

4. That being said I know a lot of people who don't feel any personal emotional connection to their characters at all and I'm guessing those are the types who don't mind allowing their character to be raped. 

1. That's because it's such a hard topic for normal, non deviants to understand. It's an extremely abnormal mentality to be so involved in.

 

2. It also (often) has to deal with the person playing's personal life. Most people (don't hang me for saying this) who play like this have NEVER been laid and most likely don't have a dominant female playing a role in their life, so like in Alfred Hitchcock's "Psycho", the players fill that role themselves with their female characters. I'm not saying EVERYONE does this, but it's EXTREMELY common, and if you look through most users' post history you can learn a LOT about their lives and what's present and what's missing.

 

3. My characters generally tend to be a fair 1:1 projection of how I want myself to be instead of who I am now. One reason why I play a male is so I can be who I wanted to be instead of what my life has molded me into.

 

4. I mean...XP is XP, doesn't matter where it comes from. But in all seriousness, personally for me, I've had the same character in Skyrim since early 2012 and I don't want to get rid of him because I have an emotional attachment. Of course I play new games with new characters but I always go back. My character has gone through a LOT of backstory development.

 

To share a snippet, his father was so bad ass that he RAPED A FEMALE DREMORA, which gave birth to my character during a volcanic eruption in Mehrunes' Dagon's Badlands. So if my character had anything to say about rape, he'd probably say, "Everything happens for a reason, whether this one wants it to or not." and to that end, that is also my outlook on things as far as rape goes.

[Guest]

Just now, myuhinny said:

@RussianPrince

 

Not everyone that plays a female plays a fake girl with big flabby patties with a ass the size of a mack truck. I prefer mine to be more realistic with a smaller more petite size usually B to C cup sometimes A cup it depends on the outfit I'm making on how big the breast area is.

 

I have played males characters before as well and I don't see the appeal of playing them when I can have a choice.

Oh I understand that completely. It was just an example though, I quoted you to keep the posts flowing.

[mamlook]

On 28/12/2016 at 10:45 PM, Wolborg said:

If you enjoy the fantasy of a woman getting raped, why not play a male character and rape female NPCs?

 

If you enjoy the fantasy of yourself getting abused, why not play a man and get him abused by the NPCs?

 

If you enjoy the fantasy of being a woman, why not be a woman who doesn't get sexually assaulted?

You answer yourself,

If you enjoy the fantasy of being a woman, and the fantasy of yourself getting abused, well you play a woman and get her raped.

 

It feels so obvious when I see you 3 other statement that it feels like you already knew the answer before even asking

[Just Checking]

I'm straight male, I play largely female characters in single player games.  Mostly because I can make a female character nicer to look at than a male character, and if I'm using mods that LL provides, I'd rather see a woman I find attractive in them than a man I find passable.  I don't self insert into my characters much because I myself am not the kind of person that would ever do anything these games present you with, except read books, which doesn't make for a very exciting game.  Then again, I also don't really rp in these games either, I just go "Ok here's my character, look how nice they look" and then just play a general style/behaviour.  Don't really put together personal stories for them.  I have defeat mods and all the rest, but I don't actually use them much.  If they trigger, I tend to load my game rather than keep playing with the consequences.  I set the chances of it happening to low-ish, and mostly it's just another risk factor.  A lot of  the mods here presents a pretty watered down vision of an otherwise traumatic experience, to the point where it's largely just a "You got beat, here's something for your trouble before you load" sort of thing.  I use Funnybizness' various, mostly aggressive animations, but disable the more extreme ones.  I guess for me it's less that I have a rape fetish and more that I look at it and think "a surprisingly consistent number of these bandits have no interest in more than casual murder" and that seems off to me.  I feel like in the skyrim/fallout style setting, where there's a lot of pretty horrible people running around, there'd be at least some that would look at a beaten opponent and decide to help themselves.  Even still, you won't catch me looking up rape fetish porn because it turns my stomach to think a person with actual mannerisms of more than just 1's and 0's and behaviour beyond button presses is in that situation.

 

So yeah, I guess it boils down to being a way to add elements I feel should be in those settings and make the game feel a bit more... honest, but not too honest.  Or something like that.

[SexDwarf2250]

On 12/28/2016 at 4:55 PM, myuhinny said:

Not everyone likes playing muscle bound neanderthals and many find looking at a female character better then looking at a male character unless the person is gay and likes looking at male characters or they like using male characters instead of female characters.

 

Many games force you to be a muscle bound neanderthal so when you get a chance to dump them you do.

 

You don't actually have to be so bigoted to assume that having muscles or a penis makes you a dumb "neanderthal," and there's also a weight slider that works, last I could tell. As far as staring at asses, there's this thing called companions and slaves, you should check it out.

 

Anything you can have done to a player female, you can have done ten times to, well, ten bound female slaves. I'm sure there's something to do with the recent cultural hostility towards the nature of males in the west that drives men to subconsciously wish to feminize themselves. Note that it doesn't in any way improve ie lessen their desire for domination to occur, they just reject or detest the role of males. For most of them I'm sure it's at a shallow and harmless level, but for some I'm certain it's a sign of latent self-loathing.

 

As for me, I play the game to pillage, rape and murder, and I do it as a male character. It's not entirely irrelevant that we often play games to do things we wish we could do and be characters that we wish we could be, even if it isn't always conscious that this draws us.

[myuhinny]

I'm a male so I don't want to see them or play them when I have a choice I was forced enough playing them when I was growing up.

 

I like playing a female and then have lots and lots of female to female and female to creature action.

 

The only game that I like playing as a male is a new game being made called two sides it's a game where you play a male character but during the game you decide to go do some type of experiment at a hospital the experiment has side effects like transforming him into a female and it alters back and forth though right now there isn't a whole lot to that part yet.

 

 

[SexDwarf2250]

2 hours ago, myuhinny said:

I'm a male so I don't want to see them or play them when I have a choice I was forced enough playing them when I was growing up.

Well, you're special then.

[yatol]

On 09/12/2017 at 12:09 PM, Nazzzgul666 said:

Totally OT: what's the mod for the scar in the first picture, and what's the boob free armor in the second?

don't use tatoo or scar overlay

it's lie wound pack copy paste on a v6 texture in paint

 

there's steam in the nif, so i bet it's steampunk something

above it's a mashup with black lotus

 

[yatol]

22 hours ago, SexDwarf2250 said:

Well, you're special then.

don't see how he's special

playing the usual muscuar hero?

or the sexy hero?

the view is better

[GrimReaper]

On 10.12.2017 at 6:59 PM, RussianPrince said:

If I wanted to see a naked big booty sloot I'd go on PornHub. 

 

Why play a game to have some action then, go watch an action flick. Why play a game about swords and sorcerers when you can watch a fantasy movie. As for you going on about the psyche of the people gathered here, guess what - gaming communities (or online communities in general) are often filled with people who don't have made the best experiences in life, they're easy targets to project onto whatever mental illness and other shenanigans you want. If you live your life to the fullest^TM you usually don't have enough time to play games or hang around in forums and such and you sure as hell have no need for some escapism.

 

If you want to go down the route of a wannabe psycho-analyst, it's much more worrisome to self-insert into a game, for a multitude of reason. The most important one would be: If you self-insert as someone you want to be, why not work in real life to become who you want to be? Playing video games for that reason is a poor and unfulfilling surrogate for the real thing.

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, GrimReaper said:

If you want to go down the route of a wannabe psycho-analyst, it's much more worrisome to self-insert into a game, for a multitude of reason. The most important one would be: If you self-insert as someone you want to be, why not work in real life to become who you want to be? 

Because I can't become a 7 foot fall cat man with a twelve inch dick that can shoot fireballs from pure will alone?

 

Sounds like you're a bit triggered. What, you've never been laid before?

[TheOzoneHole]

As a straight male not going to break any stereotypes here, but I actually didn't start playing female characters until my second or third character when playing Morrowind, which was after I played Oblivion and Morrowind with male characters for about ten months.  The main reason I switched was I kept running into a quest in MW where you actually benefited from having a female character as there was a very mysandrist quest related NPC.  It is things like that which I feel Skyrim has really lost, NPCs that actually have personality other than a very basic "I'm kind of snarky or grumpy because that's how the voice actor read my dialogue".  

And as many, many others have said, watching someone's ass for 60 hours, do you want that to be a chunky battleship or something much more attractive and feminine?  Is your character you or is the person whose story you are crafting?  I don't see myself as Rolf the Uber, my first Skyrim character, nor am I Lady Jasmine, the daughter of the Count of Bruma, who managed to get herself enslaved while on a court visit to Skyrim.  I deleted those save files and never gave it any thought.  To any degree that I (the person/player) am the character, I see it as being nothing more than their subconscious.  

 

This doesn't even touch on the amount of female only or female dominant content both on LL and Nexus.  Some times I'm just doing this for the eye candy, some times I like using the Skyrim journal mod to actually craft an in-world narrative story, often with other survival style mods (RND, Frostfall etc.).  Each character is unique, male or female is only one aspect of that character.  Do I go out of my way to create some kind of RP/head canon for each one? No, quite often I simply get bored with the character I've been using or a bunch of mods update all around the same time and at that point it is better to just create a new game.  

 

Why do I use the "rape-y" mods?  Honestly for a long time there really didn't seem to be all that many IMMERSIVE (emphasis for the sake of sarcasm) sex mods that didn't have rape in them.  Pretty much everything was prostitution or rape and that random sex mod could actually cause tons of problems for stealth based characters which is my main style of play.  Everything kind of falls apart when one of the bandits you're sneaking up on suddenly decides to have sex with you and suddenly all his friends know you're there.

I don't feel that prostitution works as well in Skyrim as it did in Morrowind, which only really leaves rape.  And yes, in the early game it feels like there is more of a consequence to failing a fight with mods like defeat and submit rather than simply getting killed and reloading.  The Fight-Die-Repeat cycle just feels like it is patting you on the head and saying "Go get 'em champ! I'm sure you'll get it right this time!" without any real conviction or consequences.  Unfortunately, to me many of the mods take things to far.  By the time my characters are up to level 30 they can take care of themselves pretty well.  And there is no reason that a level 70 Dragonborn-Battlemage should be insta-bound and raped by a basic Bandit or five, all of whom she can kill without trouble.  I freely admit that the rape mods fall apart at that point.