Pet1Pet Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 Spent the last weekend (mostly) playing with "Scent". Still learning to write rules and figure out what "Scent" can do. Two bugs to report (sorry!)... - If the "source" is "follower" and the "target" is "player", I noticed that the "costume equip" feature got the wrong participant order i.e. "rule to equip the follower" will equip the player, and "rule to equip the player" will equip the follower. Also, I noticed that at one time the rule misfired and equip an item (a wig) to BOTH the player and the participant. It might have something to do with "undress and reequip" option firing to quickly? Perhaps adding a second delay could help? Just a guess. (See the attach rule as an example...) - I tried writing several rules but can never get the "witness someone having sex" condition to trigger. "Sleeping", "see someone naked", and "being naked" seem to work fine though. Thanks for making this robust rule engine! P.S. For later versions...can you add an option to "force" execute a rule (or add it to the beginning of the queue)? It would make it a lot easier to run tests. P.P.S. Thanks again for the tips for getting "rule A trigger rule B" to work. FemaleFollowerSexCeri.json
Nazzzgul666 Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 Tried to make a rule as a request for the other thread, male humans ask PC in Inns. I've tested it in the sleeping giant in Riverwood, but even after i added the cell manually, it kept saying "wrong location". I've changed to logging all with notifs and traces, but i can't find a log, where should that be? Or should i have restarted SSX for that? I couldn't get the "follower rapes sleeping player" to work either, are you sure that's possible? Afaik NPCs don't really do things while the player is sleeping/waiting, so you'd need a function to make the player stop sleeping first, then let the NPC approach him... Beside that, it seems that i can't set the time to start a rule, it only changed the scanning time for NPCs. Is it meant to be that way? The time is ok in general, but for testing i'd like to have it a bit faster. I'll add the rule here again. *edit: the "force rule" suggested above would be great, then there's no need to change time settings to start rules imho. Sex in Inns.json
Pet1Pet Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 @Nazzzgul666, See my "SSX Upload" post. I tested it and it should work. You (and the guy who asked for it) will have to make some minor change as I only play male PC: - Source as non-follower female NPC - Target as player, source will initiate dialogue as I give the player a chance to say no. - animation only included two kiss animation. - Filter condition set to arousal > 50 As for location...it seems that SSX could sometimes got stuck into a "wrong location" loop even when the current cell fits all condition. It seems to happen at times after fast travel (worse if it is a scripted fast travel like a teleport spell), and after I stop&restart SSX. For now I basically set condition to "interior only" and set other conditions e.g., "interior only" plus "not after player draw weapon" to make it works with Inn & home but not dungeon.
PhilMc2 Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 Dialogue initiated sex scenes via specific custom rules...without any requirement except SL, SkyUI and SKSE...THIS IS AWESOMNESS! ...and of course it`s not working for me -.- I wonder why there is no String_German.json file...chinese is there but no german? o.0 Do you need translation? If yes I would gladly help. And could that be the reason why the MCM isn`t working for my german version? Almost every option has no entries to choose for building the rules...neither the 1.3c nor the light version @ nexus Last but not least...the automatic install is not a good idea imo...when starting a new game it directly pumps the message onto the screen that SexLab is not installed...yeah of course it is not...it has to be done manually...so why the auto install for Scent of Sex? I guess it would be better to start the mod manually via MCM install button...I had to triple load the newly created save file just for Scent of Sex to initialise and there are function wich still do not work o.0 Does Scent of Sex need the FNIS Creature pack? Or can it be used without that functionality?
Guest Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 Dialogue initiated sex scenes via specific custom rules...without any requirement except SL, SkyUI and SKSE...THIS IS AWESOMNESS! ...and of course it`s not working for me -.- I wonder why there is no String_German.json file...chinese is there but no german? o.0 Do you need translation? If yes I would gladly help. And could that be the reason why the MCM isn`t working for my german version? Almost every option has no entries to choose for building the rules...neither the 1.3c nor the light version @ nexus Last but not least...the automatic install is not a good idea imo...when starting a new game it directly pumps the message onto the screen that SexLab is not installed...yeah of course it is not...it has to be done manually...so why the auto install for Scent of Sex? I guess it would be better to start the mod manually via MCM install button...I had to triple load the newly created save file just for Scent of Sex to initialise and there are function wich still do not work o.0 Does Scent of Sex need the FNIS Creature pack? Or can it be used without that functionality? Hi. Today only the English translation is good. The other ones are from a previous version (but in my implementation, there is always the fallback to English.) I will really appreciate a German translation. Just translate the file "Scent of Sex_Tranlation_English.json" in german. When SexLab is not fully installed, you get a messagebox. But then you should be able to complete (re-start) the install in the MCM. (I added this feature in the patch "c"). Creature pack is not required. If you use SexLab Creature animations, then my mod find it (alone) and gives you the ability to have scenes with creatures. If you don't use them, then you don't need the FNIS creature pack.
tch65721 Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 I can't seem to get this working in the Luxury Suite. I know my rules work because if I remove the location "Luxury Suite" I'm good. It gives me a msg "bad rule" specifying "wrong location". I've tried other things like inns and houses but nothing seems to work for the luxury suite.
Guest Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 I can't seem to get this working in the Luxury Suite. I know my rules work because if I remove the location "Luxury Suite" I'm good. It gives me a msg "bad rule" specifying "wrong location". I've tried other things like inns and houses but nothing seems to work for the luxury suite. I will give a look to this specific case. Can you send me the link to download the mod(s), so I will try exactly your case? Thanks.
Guest ffabris Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 I used Luxury Suite, if you remember, and had issues initially, which then were solved.
Guest Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 I used Luxury Suite, if you remember, and had issues initially, which then were solved. Probably the bug is still here. I will try again with the mod you linked.
PhilMc2 Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 Hi. Today only the English translation is good. The other ones are from a previous version (but in my implementation, there is always the fallback to English.) I will really appreciate a German translation. Just translate the file "Scent of Sex_Tranlation_English.json" in german. I`m on it.
Nazzzgul666 Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 It seems i've managed to break SSX. I still can't find the log, and by now it might be overwritten (i could try to reproduce, though), but here is what happened: A rule triggered but i wasn't in the mood and kept running (the settings for following/teleport/timeout are default). I went some steps into water and started a bathing in Skyrim animation short before the second actor reached me. Some time later i noticed that nothing happens anymore, i've checked SSX, clicked at "Force actors cleanup". Still nothing, i stopped SSX via hotkey, started it again and immediatly the second actor was teleported on my back and started fucking me. Since then, i can't get any rule to work. It's either that my toon counts as busy, or it can't find valid actors although the highlight says my toon and possible sources are found, fine and ready. That was btw after i've tried to create a rule for inns, there seem to be a problem with some location settings.
Torkya Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 Performance Test Guy ... best performance checker ever well done CPU.
Guest Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 ...German translation... I`m on it. Appreciated. Performance Test Guy ... best performance checker ever well done CPU. Thanks. I had fun adding this guy, it does actually nothing, it is just to give a visual feedback that the test is progressing.
TSS5062 Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 I there a way to exclude a specific location? For example, I've made Ysolda the town whore, but when at the Bannered Mare she is always sitting at the table. So when sex is initiated, they clip through the table and chairs. I would like to exclude that location. Am I missing something?
Guest Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 I there a way to exclude a specific location? For example, I've made Ysolda the town whore, but when at the Bannered Mare she is always sitting at the table. So when sex is initiated, they clip through the table and chairs. I would like to exclude that location. Am I missing something? There is no way to "exclude" a location right now. But it is pretty easy for me to set the locations in "inclusive" or "exclusive" mode on the next patch.
TSS5062 Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 OK, Thanks. I could set the rule to exteriors only, but my rule has the benefit of surprise visits from Ysolda at breezehome, which is fun.
Guest Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 I can't seem to get this working in the Luxury Suite. As for location...it seems that SSX could sometimes got stuck into a "wrong location" loop even when the current cell fits all condition. I used Luxury Suite, if you remember, and had issues initially, which then were solved. I tried the current version with BBLuxurySuite. Create a rule that is working only inside the BBLS main interior cell. Saved, started, and in a few I had sex. Went to another location by walking. Tried, no rules were playing because of the wrong location. Went back with the mod active, and in a few seconds, I had sex again. When in a different interior cell (COC). Stopped the mod, saved the game, exit, restart, reload last save. Started, rules not playing as expected. Went in BBLS with COC, after a few seconds (probably a good minute) I had sex again. Closed the game. Restarted the game, started the mod, went inside the BBLS, sex happened in a few seconds. Stopped the game. Restarted the game, NOT starting right away the mod, went inside the BBLS, started the mod, and sex again in a few seconds. Sorry guys, but I have no clues of the problems you have on locations. Please send me the papyrus log (and be sure to activate EVERYTHING) when this problem occurs again. Zip the file if it is too big.
TSS5062 Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 By the way, I did much of what you advised after you evaluated my log, and it helped some. I installed USLEEP and ran the swap masters script, though it did not alter any plugins. The logs are smaller now. I still get some annoying CTD's that are hard to pin down but I'm working on it. Just wanted to say thanks. You pointed me in the right direction.
Guest Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 By the way, I did much of what you advised after you evaluated my log, and it helped some. I installed USLEEP and ran the swap masters script, though it did not alter any plugins. The logs are smaller now. I still get some annoying CTD's that are hard to pin down but I'm working on it. Just wanted to say thanks. You pointed me in the right direction. Not a problem. Happy to help.
dult Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 Any chance we can get an option to have two (or three for collaborators) arousal settings. So that if I wanted to have a minimum required arousal for one character, and a different setting for another I could get that set up. I know it's kind of a niche request, but it would allow for some more specific situations. For instance, let's say the male player character has 100 arousal, and he's with a female character. If there were different rule options for her arousal, you could have it set so that she jumped on him at 100, gave him a handjob at 50, or just left him wanted at 0.
Guest Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 Any chance we can get an option to have two (or three for collaborators) arousal settings. So that if I wanted to have a minimum required arousal for one character, and a different setting for another I could get that set up. I know it's kind of a niche request, but it would allow for some more specific situations. For instance, let's say the male player character has 100 arousal, and he's with a female character. If there were different rule options for her arousal, you could have it set so that she jumped on him at 100, gave him a handjob at 50, or just left him wanted at 0. Possible is possible. Just not really easy if I am not going to change the whole part of arousal (and Helth, Stamina, Magicka, that is the same) for the rule definition and rule checking. So, for sure not in a patch. But maybe in a future release.
Pet1Pet Posted September 8, 2016 Posted September 8, 2016 I can't seem to get this working in the Luxury Suite. As for location...it seems that SSX could sometimes got stuck into a "wrong location" loop even when the current cell fits all condition. I used Luxury Suite, if you remember, and had issues initially, which then were solved. I tried the current version with BBLuxurySuite. Create a rule that is working only inside the BBLS main interior cell. Saved, started, and in a few I had sex. Went to another location by walking. Tried, no rules were playing because of the wrong location. Went back with the mod active, and in a few seconds, I had sex again. When in a different interior cell (COC). Stopped the mod, saved the game, exit, restart, reload last save. Started, rules not playing as expected. Went in BBLS with COC, after a few seconds (probably a good minute) I had sex again. Closed the game. Restarted the game, started the mod, went inside the BBLS, sex happened in a few seconds. Stopped the game. Restarted the game, NOT starting right away the mod, went inside the BBLS, started the mod, and sex again in a few seconds. Sorry guys, but I have no clues of the problems you have on locations. Please send me the papyrus log (and be sure to activate EVERYTHING) when this problem occurs again. Zip the file if it is too big. Hi CPU, It takes a while to get to the "Bad type of cell" error loop. The same rule will work well for easily an hour or two. But after a couple of cell changes and a couple of battles, SSX will stop considering interior cell (player home, inn, store) as "interior". Difficult to tell but I have attached the rule json (it only care if it is "interior only") and the log file as requested. I did take a look at the log...not sure how much it can help as it is also showing "Bad type of cell" but not much else. For what it is worth...the cell I ran the test is Whiterun Inn "Banner Mare". Btw, I also tried the "actor cleanup"...that didn't help. Hope I'm helping... P.S. I can do "before bugged save" and "after bugged save" video if you absolutely need to see how SSX process the rules if necessary... Papyrus.0.log FemaleFollowerSexAskForeplay.json
Guest Posted September 8, 2016 Posted September 8, 2016 Hi CPU, It takes a while to get to the "Bad type of cell" error loop. The same rule will work well for easily an hour or two. But after a couple of cell changes and a couple of battles, SSX will stop considering interior cell (player home, inn, store) as "interior". Difficult to tell but I have attached the rule json (it only care if it is "interior only") and the log file as requested. I did take a look at the log...not sure how much it can help as it is also showing "Bad type of cell" but not much else. For what it is worth...the cell I ran the test is Whiterun Inn "Banner Mare". Btw, I also tried the "actor cleanup"...that didn't help. Hope I'm helping... P.S. I can do "before bugged save" and "after bugged save" video if you absolutely need to see how SSX process the rules if necessary... I will start by checking the log. And probably I will just let the mod play for an hour or two, then save, then reload, and check. But tomorrow, it is late for me now. P.S. thanks for the info provided.
zzz72w3r Posted September 8, 2016 Posted September 8, 2016 I there a way to exclude a specific location? For example, I've made Ysolda the town whore, but when at the Bannered Mare she is always sitting at the table. So when sex is initiated, they clip through the table and chairs. I would like to exclude that location. Am I missing something? There is no way to "exclude" a location right now. But it is pretty easy for me to set the locations in "inclusive" or "exclusive" mode on the next patch. SL animation clipping through furniture and wall was a big problem with RandomSex mod as well. What the author did in that case was putting a check to ignore sitting actors. For the purpose of cutting back on clipping this approach is probably better than Ysolda not having sex in Bannered Mare at all. Of course, the location inclusive and exclusive rule can be quiet interesting....
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